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http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan47.html

Normally I can't stand the guy, but here, he actually makes sense to a certain extent! :eek:

Pat Buchannan says so many interesting things that everybody agrees with him at times and everyone disagrees with him at times no matter what political persuasion with which you identify.

Pat Buchannan says so many interesting things that everybody agrees with him at times and everyone disagrees with him at times no matter what political persuasion with which you identify.

lol

Ah crap not this site again.

Ah crap not this site again.

lol

this maybe the only time I agree with anything he has said, but I do agree.

Ah crap not this site again.

Seconded.

If Lew Rockwell made a scat movie with his own mother and a syphilitic dwarf, why do I get the feeling you'd still link it to us with the explanation "Wow I agree with this man let's all go shit on little people"?

If Lew Rockwell made a scat movie with his own mother and a syphilitic dwarf, why do I get the feeling you'd still link it to us with the explanation "Wow I agree with this man let's all go shit on little people"?

Lew Rockwell didn't write the article, son. And for the record, I do not always agree with Rockwell or the columnists on his site.

And here's another good article (NOT from his site): http://www.etherzone.com/2006/raim101106.shtml

For over a decade, this writer has argued for a withdrawal of all U.S. forces from South Korea – because the Cold War was over, the Soviet Union had broken up and there was no longer any vital U.S. interest on the peninsula.What about the Cold War and the Soviet Union made U.S. presence on the peninsula vital?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan47.html

Normally I can't stand the guy, but here, he actually makes sense to a certain extent! :eek:

He may speak the truth, but that doesn't make him any less of a poopie-head.

I still think the north is many years away from an actual working missile

I still think the north is many years away from an actual working missile

Probably true, but that won't stop an arms race. Japan and ROK will probably build up a nice stockpile before the DPRK has working missiles.

What about the Cold War and the Soviet Union made U.S. presence on the peninsula vital? Soth Korea is still on there...and this dude has NO CONCEPT of obligation or treaties or the fact the Korean war is not over .

How can I turn him off ? Where is the button ?

Like many REAL Conservatives, Pat Buchanan has some very valid opinions. However, I'd like to point out that not long ago, he was the biggest homophobe in Washington and the 'wall' between the US and Mexico was his insane idea better than a decade ago. :p

What about the Cold War and the Soviet Union made U.S. presence on the peninsula vital?

The USA wouldn't want to leave the Pacific open to the Soviet Union. Should all of Korea had fallen then it is likely that considering the Chinese hate the Japanese and the Japanese had no army at the time, that Japan would have fallen too. Thus leaving the Pacific pretty much open to the USSR - something the USA would not have wanted because of 'national security'.

The reason forces continued to be deployed in Korea is because 1)the South Korean government wanted them there and 2)because the Korean war has not been concluded, and could, in theory, blow up again at any time. This would also 3)leave US economic interests in South Korea (after reforms under President Park) at risk.

In short, Korea was actually pretty vital to US interests and containment, without trying to put a pro/anti US Policy bias on it.

The USA wouldn't want to leave the Pacific open to the Soviet Union. Should all of Korea had fallen then it is likely that considering the Chinese hate the Japanese and the Japanese had no army at the time, that Japan would have fallen too. Thus leaving the Pacific pretty much open to the USSR - something the USA would not have wanted because of 'national security'.

The reason forces continued to be deployed in Korea is because 1)the South Korean government wanted them there and 2)because the Korean war has not been concluded, and could, in theory, blow up again at any time. This would also 3)leave US economic interests in South Korea (after reforms under President Park) at risk.

In short, Korea was actually pretty vital to US interests and containment, without trying to put a pro/anti US Policy bias on it.Well, that's all fine and good, but what's to stop a nuclear North Korea from taking over the South if the U.S. left?
(Basically my point is that there really isn't less of a reason to leave now than there was then.)

Well, that's all fine and good, but what's to stop a nuclear North Korea from taking over the South if the U.S. left?
(Basically my point is that there really isn't less of a reason to leave now than there was then.)

Nothing, which is why I think they should remain.

Well, that's all fine and good, but what's to stop a nuclear North Korea from taking over the South if the U.S. left?
(Basically my point is that there really isn't less of a reason to leave now than there was then.)

I'm not for leaving, but you should keep in mind nuclear weapons are generally not used as offensive weapons.

Although I did read somewhere that the DPRK were trying to build neutron bombs.

Nothing, which is why I think they should remain.

Maybe not nothing, I'm sure the South Koreans would have something to say about it.

Neil Buchanan was much better...

http://www.thehideout.org.uk/web_editor_images/neil_buchanan-150.jpg

How can you not love that man?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan47.html

Normally I can't stand the guy, but here, he actually makes sense to a certain extent! :eek:

Well, it's a bit tough to disagree with "Nuclear bombs + People who don't like us = suckage.