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http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD131506

The fact that the building resembles the Ka'ba (see picture below), is called "Apple Mecca," is intended to be open 24 hours a day like the Ka'ba, and moreover, contains bars selling alcoholic beverages, constitutes a blatant insult to Islam.

Yeah, we all know how Muslim-hating the people at Apple are - just can't wait to insult Islam and make a point of desecrating a religion on purpose :rolleyes:

In common parlance in the US, "Mecca" usually means a place where EVERYONE comes to gather. In a way, places like Graceland are a "Mecca" - and when we use the term that way, we're definitely NOT being insulting.

I guess you can't turn around today without pissing them off.

http://www.memri.org/images/uploaded/sd_131506_1.jpg

I guess you can't turn around today without pissing them off.



Them being whom?

Them being whom?

Any Muslim who feels the slightest bit provoked by a building like this.

Any Muslim who feels the slightest bit provoked by a building like this.

How many of them are there?

http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD131506



Yeah, we all know how Muslim-hating the people at Apple are - just can't wait to insult Islam and make a point of desecrating a religion on purpose :rolleyes:

In common parlance in the US, "Mecca" usually means a place where EVERYONE comes to gather. In a way, places like Graceland are a "Mecca" - and when we use the term that way, we're definitely NOT being insulting.



So the fact that it resembles the Ka'Ba is pure coincidence? I'd say a lot of christians would be offended if someone built an imitation church and used it as a brothel for example.

How many of them are there?

Enough to sponsor a website to call for mass protest against it.

If you think of it like the Danish Mohammed thing, it only requires a bit of publicity to get millions in the street, rioting, burning, and killing.

I dunno DK, the fact they contructed the building to look like the Ka'ba suggests that they have a different Mecca in mind than the term we are used to here. Sorta like building a whorehouse that is the spitting image of the Vatican.

Damn it! Forsakia beat me to it.

I dunno DK, the fact they contructed the building to look like the Ka'ba suggests that they have a different Mecca in mind than the term we are used to here. Sorta like building a whorehouse that is the spitting image of the Vatican.

Don't see any indication it will be a whorehouse...

Thats rather small for an office building or store isn't it?

Enough to sponsor a website to call for mass protest against it.


I daresay I could phone a friend setting up exactly such a site.
Making the total, what, 1?

So the fact that it resembles the Ka'Ba is pure coincidence? I'd say a lot of christians would be offended if someone built an imitation church and used it as a brothel for example.
You can't even really make a direct comparison with Christianity, since there isn't really anything as central to their faith as the Kaabah is to the Muslims. The nearest I can place it, it's like the people who got outraged over that avant-garde exhibit of the Virgin Mary painted with... "bodily waste products" -- which the artist explained represented traditional African ideas of fertility.

It's a bit shortsighted, to say the least.

It's a black box. No one is allowed to build a building in the shape of a black box?

It's also unconfirmed. http://news.com.com/2061-10793_3-6061531.html

Those wicked infidels at Apple, how dare they vaguely insult my religion by using inovative architecture!
*fires Kalashnikov skyward*

Them being whom?

The Je- I mean the Muslims! The Greatest "threat to America" since xenophobes stopped being able to blame the Jews.

Oh, I see, it's the collective again.
Damn you, Muslim Hive-Mind!

Oh, I see, it's the collective again.
Damn you, Muslim Hive-Mind!

Never said a hive mind. Just that millions of Muslims will be very, very upset.

It's a black box. No one is allowed to build a building in the shape of a black box?

A black box full of American goods and alcohol whose name and likeness are strikingly close to the black box to which over a billion people fervently pray five times a day?

*gasp*

I need to make my sentences shorter.

Who cares. Build it, call it Mecca and sell drinks. If it pisses off some Muslims enough that they burn down a bunch of buildings that's their problem. Christians and Jews often get pissed off about this movie or that video game or this painting and we don't censor them. Why should we if it pisses some Muslims off?

Never said a hive mind. Just that millions of Muslims will be very, very upset.

Nope, I said it. *owns up*

And being very, very upset = rioting, burning and killing how?

Never said a hive mind. Just that millions of Muslims will be very, very upset.

That seems to happen alot these days.

Those wicked infidels at Apple, how dare they vaguely insult my religion by using inovative architecture!
*fires Kalashnikov skyward*

*picks up a falling shell*
uh...theses are blanks
*hands over a box of hot pink tracers*
:p :p

but seriously thats a little bit of over kill, i mean, really, its a black box of a building:confused:

Those wicked infidels at Apple, how dare they vaguely insult my religion by using inovative architecture!
*fires Kalashnikov skyward*

It's hardly innovative... it's just a box.

A black box full of American goods and alcohol whose name and likeness are strikingly close to the black box to which over a billion people fervently pray five times a day?

*gasp*

I need to make my sentences shorter.

Hmmmm.
1) As pointed out above -- it's a rumor. Apple hasn't confirmed what it's called.

2) Alcohol? First time I've heard of alcohol served in a computer store. Color me skeptical.

3) It's still a black box. If they painted "Welcome to the Ka'ba" on it, I could see getting upset. If they actually are ill-advised enough to paint "Mecca" on it, I could see getting upset. At the moment, it appears people are getting upset over a rumor.

Just curious but: Did Egyptians get upset over the new entrance to the Louvre resembling a Pyramid?

*picks up a falling shell*
uh...theses are blanks
*hands over a box of hot pink tracers*
:p :p

but seriously thats a little bit of over kill, i mean, really, its a black box of a building:confused:
I won't accept your charity!
:mp5: *swipes tracers will Antikythera isn't looking*

That seems to happen alot these days.

Maybe if we taught them how to bowl, instead of teaching them democracy...

It's hardly innovative... it's just a box.

Once it sheds it's outer layer of skin, it will be the greatest building ever seen by man in 4,000 years!

Maybe if we taught them how to bowl, instead of teaching them democracy...

Yesh, when we try to teach democracy it explodes in our face most of the time.

Maybe if we taught them how to bowl, instead of teaching them democracy...

Who said they wanted to taught either of those?

Maybe if we taught them how to bowl, instead of teaching them democracy...

By your logic, wouldn't that mean they became suicide bowlers, or something?

Who said they wanted to taught either of those?

Actually, I suppose the better point is "who wants to learn either because he has no choice?"

Who said they wanted to taught either of those?

:eek:
Doesn't everyone in the world want democracy?!?

I haven't heard of any embassies being bombed over this - in fact, the only place I've heard mention of it at all is right here, on DKs' thread.

How disappointing for him that must be.

Piss Christ! :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/de/Piss_Christ_by_Serrano_Andres_%281987%29.jpg

That is all.

Also, they found the bones of giant camels in Syria recently.

Actually, I suppose the better point is "who wants to learn either because he has no choice?"

the white mans burden?

you raies a very very good point but look at history when has a concored people ever really really been given the choice?

It offends me because it mocks the sacred symbol of the monolith from 2001!!!

Alalalalalala!!!

*starts shaking large bottle of Sprite*

I thought that structure looked more like this:
http://images.apple.com/retail/fifthavenue/images/fifthavenue_vert051906.jpg

Oh, and to whoever said that was too small, I believe that is only the entrance and the stairs going down to the store, which is underneath the cube (and the street)

Also, they found the bones of giant camels in Syria recently.

WTF do giant camels have to do with anything?! :confused:

WTF do giant camels have to do with anything?! :confused:

They built the Kabah.

I thought that structure looked more like this:
http://images.apple.com/retail/fifthavenue/images/fifthavenue_vert051906.jpg

Oh, and to whoever said that was too small, I believe that is only the entrance and the stairs going down to the store, which is underneath the cube (and the street)

In other words: people got mad because of the covering?

They built the Kabah.

Abraham was a giant camel!!!??!:eek:

WTF do giant camels have to do with anything?! :confused:

C'mon. You can't put two and two together? First, you have a big black box with something in it that Apple built, then you have the bones of giant camels in Syria, also someone took a picture of Christ in their urine. If you take all that and play Abby Road by The Beatles backwards while listening to Stairway to Heaven you'll see why.

C'mon. You can't put two and two together? First, you have a big black box with something in it that Apple built, then you have the bones of giant camels in Syria, also someone took a picture of Christ in their urine. If you take all that and play Abby Road by The Beatles backwards while listening to Stairway to Heaven you'll see why.

Drop acid much?

In other words: people got mad because of the covering?

Looks like crappy reporting on the Original source's part. I knew it looked like a construction template/covering, I mean black isn't really Apple's signature color is it? Just about every computer they make is white with some transparent parts...

Drop acid much?

I was around in the 60's when the Universe meant something. We really did something then, man! How many Vietnam veterans does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Answer: You don't know because you werent' fuckin' there, man!

Looks like crappy reporting on the Original source's part. I knew it looked like a construction template/covering, I mean black isn't really Apple's signature color is it? Just about every computer they make is white with some transparent parts...

Their color used to be grey and cream... back before the imac and such.

Their color used to be grey and cream... back before the imac and such.

Yes, but not pitch, inky black like the Ka'bah.

Looks like crappy reporting on the Original source's part. I knew it looked like a construction template/covering, I mean black isn't really Apple's signature color is it? Just about every computer they make is white with some transparent parts...

Well, here's the link to the website. http://www.apple.com/retail/fifthavenue/week/20061008.html

Tempest in a teapot. It's not called Apple Mecca, either.

No alcohol at the Genius Bar. http://www.apple.com/retail/geniusbar/

Yes, but not pitch, inky black like the Ka'bah.

True, I've never seen a pitch black mac.

Abraham was a giant camel!!!??!:eek:

Yup. Why did you think he was able to live that long in the desert?

OMFG There As An "s" In "nationstates" that must mean they are making fun Of Muslims!

Burn Dystroy Kill!

I have a few muslim friends and not one of them is remotly caustic in any way. The only crazy muslims I hear is over the series of tubes. I wonder if this is just an online urban legend?

So the fact that it resembles the Ka'Ba is pure coincidence? I'd say a lot of christians would be offended if someone built an imitation church and used it as a brothel for example.
Not a brothel, but would you acept a love hotel?

Seriously, I'm told there's a love hotel in the shape of a church somewhere in Japan.

Actually, I suppose the better point is "who wants to learn either because he has no choice?"

True.

I wonder if this is just an online urban legend?

You might be surprised at the insane things people will believe, whether online or not. I had a resident assistant in college who would not drink Snapple products because she believed that Snapple was owned by the KKK. And people like that generally cannot be talked out of their closed-minded stupidity. This is probably something similar to that - some idjet decided to make something up, and some angry fucks decided to run with it.

Well, let's just hope it doesn't blow up. Then we'll have to invade yet another Muslim country and have our military totally humilitate their soldiers.

...

Just curious but: Did Egyptians get upset over the new entrance to the Louvre resembling a Pyramid?


Or the Luxor with all it's gambling and drinkign and half naked womens?

Well, let's just hope it doesn't blow up. Then we'll have to invade yet another Muslim country and have our military totally humilitate their soldiers.

Yeah, nothing humiliates their soldiers like getting our own troops blown up and shredded- and not necessarily killed at the same time.

Can't wait for aliens to show up on Earth so NS General can get bored with the sport of Muslim Baiting and move on.

Enough to sponsor a website to call for mass protest against it.

If you think of it like the Danish Mohammed thing, it only requires a bit of publicity to get millions in the street, rioting, burning, and killing.

Um a domain name costs under 10 bucks nowadays ... and can be done by one person

Look at godhatesfags ... they dont exactly need thousands of followers to have a website

So I googled Apple Mecca, and the first four pages of hits involved:

countless bits of geek fan speculation like this:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=3&entry_id=4203
It's being dubbed Apple Mecca, a new and very huge (a whopping 25,000 square feet), mostly underground Apple store in midtown Manhattan, for how its above-ground entrance bears an uncanny resemblance to the big black Ka'bah (AKA: The House O' Abraham) to whence all Islamic pilgrims take their grueling mandatory hajj and also because it shall be open 24 hours a day, seven days a week and hence shall be the place New Yorkers shall take a holy pilgrimage whenever they crave a new iPod Nano at 4:00 am or when they desperately need to have the Mac geeks at the Genius Bar instruct them on how to purge all the gay teen chat transcripts and German fetish porn from their iBooks before their Senate confirmation hearings.(what a freakin long sentence)

A blog by someone named Laura Mansfield (note the date):
http://blog.lauramansfield.com/2006/05/29/apple-mecca--jihadis-call-new-manhattan-store-an-insult-to-islam.aspx
Is this going to be another cartoon jihad? Nah- the jihadis like their iPods too much!

Here's what they are saying:


Ka'aba Manhattan: It stays open until morning!!

and this thing:
http://www.mail-archive.com/harakahdaily@yahoogroups.com/msg06159.html

The Islamic hive mind seems awfully quiescent. Other than Laura Mansfield and DK, no one seems to care at all.

Yeah, nothing humiliates their soldiers like getting our own troops blown up and shredded- and not necessarily killed at the same time.

Can't wait for aliens to show up on Earth so NS General can get bored with the sport of Muslim Baiting and move on.

Um, the Iraqi army was defeated in like a week or so. Kandahar fell in a similarly ridiculously short time. The enemy soldiers are toast as soon as the US troops invade. The civilians with improvised bombs are a different matter altogether because the US military doesn't have the balls to lay entire cities to waste. Maybe that's a good thing. I don't know.

They must really be pissed off at the Washington Monument .


THEY BEING MUSLIMS WITH NO SENSE OF HUMOR OR TOLERANCE OF OTHER CULTURES .


Just in case you needed to know who " they " are .


BTW are not the GOD HATES FAGS people a bit more annoying than Muslims ?

Why have we not killed them yet?

someones a slacker here .

The only solution I can see is to paint the Ka'bah bright yellow or dark green.

Enough to sponsor a website to call for mass protest against it.

If you think of it like the Danish Mohammed thing, it only requires a bit of publicity to get millions in the street, rioting, burning, and killing.

"millions"? When and where? The killing happened to the protestors and was not carried out by them, as far as I recall.

Maybe if we taught them how to bowl, instead of teaching them democracy...

"teaching them".....Well thats something that involves a certain sincerity to the principles of democracy by the teacher. For instance Germany after WWII was brought back into the democratic fold. As was Japan.

However since then 'teacher' has had a few problems understanding that democracy is something he too must respect. Hence the Shah, Pinochet, Suharto, Marcos, and various genarlissimos in Latin America. Plus "teacher" also plays footsie with Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Togo, Egypt, Jordan, etc not because they are democracies, but because they are his kind of dictatorships.

I think its time '"teacher" retired.