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Rosa Parks: Chevy Spokeswoman

Desperate Measures
09-10-2006, 22:41
We're all going to hell.

http://www.slate.com/id/2151143/
Greill
09-10-2006, 22:45
Wow... just... wow. I'll never buy a Chevrolet now.
Pyotr
09-10-2006, 22:45
Reminds me of those "think different" Apple posters with Gandhi, Einstein, and MLK on them.
Zilam
09-10-2006, 22:46
if it helps sell, then i see nothing wrong with it.
Sarkhaan
09-10-2006, 22:48
Reminds me of those "think different" Apple posters with Gandhi, Einstein, and MLK on them.

same here. I still don't get why those were such an issue, nor why this is.

Those men DID "think different"

Personally, I think the new Chevy commercial blows. Mostly because of poor song choice than anything else.
Duntscruwithus
09-10-2006, 22:50
Reminds me of those "think different" Apple posters with Gandhi, Einstein, and MLK on them.

I vaguely remember those. I don't remember anyone complaining about the at the time, does anyone else?
Mentholyptus
09-10-2006, 22:50
I'm just going to add this to my "List of Reasons American Automobiles are Soon to be a Thing of the Past..." right under "Hummer H2"
Vetalia
09-10-2006, 22:52
And you know what's really funny? It's very likely that your Chevy truck is not classified as domestic because less than 60% of its parts are made in the United States...needless to say, you're not buying America's truck when you buy a Chevy.

If you want an American-made car, buy a Toyota or a Honda...and support hiring workers at good wages and benefits rather than laying them off.
Vetalia
09-10-2006, 22:53
I vaguely remember those. I don't remember anyone complaining about the at the time, does anyone else?

No, mainly because Macs are shitty computers and nobody wants them to begin with.
Farnhamia
09-10-2006, 22:54
Funny, using a woman famous for taking public transportation in a car commercial.

And Macs pwn PCs.
Dobbsworld
09-10-2006, 22:55
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j315/crashcow/NSG/kevorkian.jpg
Mentholyptus
09-10-2006, 22:56
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j315/crashcow/NSG/kevorkian.jpg

and Dobbs wins the thread.
Greill
09-10-2006, 22:57
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j315/crashcow/NSG/kevorkian.jpg

That's so wrong... *Shakes head*
Pyotr
09-10-2006, 22:57
I vaguely remember those. I don't remember anyone complaining about the at the time, does anyone else?

I complained about them, seemed so damn pretentious. I mean even comparing a software company to great men like them....disgusting.
Bolol
09-10-2006, 22:58
We're all going to hell.

http://www.slate.com/id/2151143/

No, just Chevrolet.
Wilgrove
09-10-2006, 22:59
Umm, it didn't just show Rosa Parks. It also show Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Vietnam, Richard Nixon, 9/11, Katrina, Vietnam's protest, etc. The OP blew this one out of proportion. It's just showing we we've all been through as a country.
Infinite Revolution
09-10-2006, 23:00
that's diabollical.
Mentholyptus
09-10-2006, 23:01
Umm, it didn't just show Rosa Parks. It also show Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Vietnam, Richard Nixon, 9/11, Katrina, Vietnam's protest, etc. The OP blew this one out of proportion. It's just showing we we've all been through as a country.

The point still stands that it's a commercial for a truck, not a stirring tribute to America's trials and tribulations over the past century. Besides, some of that imagery is pointedly contradictory (i.e. protestors and Vietnam soldiers), and some just shameless manipulation of emotions (Katrina and 9/11).
Sarkhaan
09-10-2006, 23:01
I complained about them, seemed so damn pretentious. I mean even comparing a software company to great men like them....disgusting.

the company that invented personal computers. I'd say they did a nice job changing the world.
Dobbsworld
09-10-2006, 23:01
Umm, it didn't just show Rosa Parks. It also show Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Vietnam, Richard Nixon, 9/11, Katrina, Vietnam's protest, etc. The OP blew this one out of proportion. It's just showing we we've all been through as a country.

*chuckles*

Yeah, right.
Wilgrove
09-10-2006, 23:03
The point still stands that it's a commercial for a truck, not a stirring tribute to America's trials and tribulations over the past century. Besides, some of that imagery is pointedly contradictory (i.e. protestors and Vietnam soldiers), and some just shameless manipulation of emotions (Katrina and 9/11).

Isn't that what commericals are susspose to do though? Since when are commerical ethicinal?
Wilgrove
09-10-2006, 23:04
*chuckles*

Yeah, right.

Yea, you're going to need to expand on that...
BLARGistania
09-10-2006, 23:05
I'm just going to add this to my "List of Reasons American Automobiles are Soon to be a Thing of the Past..." right under "Hummer H2"

Yo mentho.

And well hey, if the President cna exploit 9/11 to win elections, why can't Chevy use American images to sell trucks.

Oh wait. Its unethical. I forgot about that part.
Mentholyptus
09-10-2006, 23:06
Isn't that what commericals are susspose to do though? Since when are commerical ethicinal?

I have no idea what ethicinal means, but I'll assume you're going for "ethical." [/spelling nazi]

Commercials are supposed to play on our emotions, or at least that's what makes them successful...but when they're this flagrant and (to a significant number of people) just plain offensive, it ends up making people feel very negatively towards Chevrolet.
Mentholyptus
09-10-2006, 23:08
Yo mentho.

And well hey, if the President cna exploit 9/11 to win elections, why can't chevy use American images to seel trucks.

Oh wait. Its unethical. I forgot about that part.

Haven't seen you around in a while!
Yeah, since when have American car manufacturers given two shits about ethics...or environmental responsibility...or actually making cars in America anyways. Point well made, sir.
Wilgrove
09-10-2006, 23:08
I have no idea what ethicinal means, but I'll assume you're going for "ethical." [/spelling nazi]

Commercials are supposed to play on our emotions, or at least that's what makes them successful...but when they're this flagrant and (to a significant number of people) just plain offensive, it ends up making people feel very negatively towards Chevrolet.

Umm, how is it offensive? Now if they show Rosa Park and Dr. Luther King Jr., then a KKK burning a cross, then yea that would be offensive. I just don't see what's offensive about this commerical.
Mentholyptus
09-10-2006, 23:09
Umm, how is it offensive? Now if they show Rosa Park and Dr. Luther King Jr., then a KKK burning a cross, then yea that would be offensive. I just don't see what's offensive about this commerical.

9/11 wasn't that long ago, and Katrina was just over a year ago. Those are fresh and painful memories for a lot of people.
Dobbsworld
09-10-2006, 23:10
Yea, you're going to need to expand on that...

Other than Katrina - and maybe 9/11 - you haven't personally been through any of that stuff, except either as part of a history class - or as part of an earlier montage used to shill other useless shit on the basis of a broad-based emotional appeal.

*chuckles again, most heartily*

Kinda like the old late-night infomercial spoof that went, "Remember the music of the 60s? Remember remembering the music of the 60s in the 80s?"

It is to laugh.
Wilgrove
09-10-2006, 23:11
9/11 wasn't that long ago, and Katrina was just over a year ago. Those are fresh and painful memories for a lot of people.

Yea, but those are the time when America truly united, and helped one another, I think that's why they put those in.
Dobbsworld
09-10-2006, 23:12
Yea, but those are the time when America truly united, and helped one another, I think that's why they put those in.

Then you think wrong. It's all put in there to sell cars.
Wilgrove
09-10-2006, 23:13
Other than Katrina - and maybe 9/11 - you haven't personally been through any of that stuff, except either as part of a history class - or as part of an earlier montage used to shill other useless shit on the basis of a broad-based emotional appeal.

*chuckles again, most heartily*

Kinda like the old late-night infomercial spoof that went, "Remember the music of the 60s? Remember remembering the music of the 60s in the 80s?"

It is to laugh.

Ok yea you got a point. Speaking of those "remembering the music" commericals. I once saw one where they had this young woman and she was saying "Remember the music of the 60s?" I was like hun, you wern't even around in the 60s.
Mentholyptus
09-10-2006, 23:13
Yea, but those are the time when America truly united, and helped one another, I think that's why they put those in.

Still probably not a lot of fun for some people to look at. Doesn't exactly put them in a buying mood.
Wilgrove
09-10-2006, 23:13
Then you think wrong. It's all put in there to sell cars.

Duh, and remembering how we were all united during those times triggers an emotional response! Thats what commericals do!
BLARGistania
09-10-2006, 23:14
Haven't seen you around in a while!
Yeah, since when have American car manufacturers given two shits about ethics...or environmental responsibility...or actually making cars in America anyways. Point well made, sir.

wasting time in class?

And for most people, these images are offensive because they represent something tragic in American history i.e. racism (which led to civil rights movement), terrorism, and massive natural disasters. Thousands were affected directly and millions indirectly. Using the memory of these things to sell trucks is just disgusting.

I'm with the author. I will never buy a Chevy after this.
Mentholyptus
09-10-2006, 23:15
wasting time in class?

Wasting time after class. And hiding from my special relativity homework.
Dobbsworld
09-10-2006, 23:17
Duh, and remembering how we were all united during those times triggers an emotional response! Thats what commericals do!

Commercials do whatever you want them to do. Sorry - they do whatever you allow them to do.
Wilgrove
09-10-2006, 23:18
Commercials do whatever you want them to do. Sorry - they do whatever you allow them to do.

True.
BLARGistania
09-10-2006, 23:27
Wasting time after class. And hiding from my special relativity homework.

Ah. I see. When are you coming down here?
The Nazz
09-10-2006, 23:36
We're all going to hell.

http://www.slate.com/id/2151143/

You know, I can understand Rosa Parks's estate wanting to make what they can off her image, given that otherwise, anyone and everyone will be able to do what they will with her likeness. What I don't get is why Chevrolet decided to license it?

Of course, when was the last time GM made a decision worth a damn?
Kyronea
09-10-2006, 23:53
We're all going to hell.

http://www.slate.com/id/2151143/

Seeing as how I boycotted anything Chevrolet anyway, this won't make me change my position on them, except to hate the fuckbitches even more for their lack of respect.
Vetalia
09-10-2006, 23:53
Of course, when was the last time GM made a decision worth a damn?

1972? 1958?
Duntscruwithus
10-10-2006, 00:03
the company that invented personal computers. I'd say they did a nice job changing the world.

Interesting, according to THIS SITE (http://www.blinkenlights.com/pc.shtml), the first actual PC was built back in 1950. They sold 400 units. Plus, IBM and Intel were creating PCs' well before Apple started up.
Slaughterhouse five
10-10-2006, 00:08
would of been better if they had her saying something going along being thrown off a bus and that chevy makes a beter vehicle.
Wilgrove
10-10-2006, 00:15
would of been better if they had her saying something going along being thrown off a bus and that chevy makes a beter vehicle.

Why ride the bus, when you can ride in the Chevy Monte Carlo! Here, you can ride in the front.

*ducks and runs*
Sdaeriji
10-10-2006, 00:16
God could come down from Heaven and personally endorse Chevrolet and it wouldn't be enough to save them.
Deep Kimchi
10-10-2006, 00:42
We're all going to hell.

http://www.slate.com/id/2151143/

Just think - if she had her own Chevy back then, she would never have had that problem on the bus...
New Xero Seven
10-10-2006, 00:44
Chevy is indeed pathetic. How low can they go...
Duntscruwithus
10-10-2006, 00:47
No, mainly because Macs are shitty computers and nobody wants them to begin with.

There is that.
Andaluciae
10-10-2006, 01:06
It goes to show exactly how much trouble Chevy is in. They're making blatant patriotic appeals to try to sell their product, frankly, that's sad. They're finally starting to put out some decent products, but it probably is too little too late.

One decade and GM will be naught more than a ghost of its former self, if they aren't owned by Toyota by then, that is.
Sdaeriji
10-10-2006, 01:10
It goes to show exactly how much trouble Chevy is in. They're making blatant patriotic appeals to try to sell their product, frankly, that's sad. They're finally starting to put out some decent products, but it probably is too little too late.

One decade and GM will be naught more than a ghost of its former self, if they aren't owned by Toyota by then, that is.

Hah. There is no "if".
The Nazz
10-10-2006, 01:19
No, mainly because Macs are shitty computers and nobody wants them to begin with.

Says the man who has to run virus protection and firewalls on his computers. ;)

Don't pay any attention to me on this--I love my Macs but don't know the first thing about the real tech side of computers.
Desperate Measures
10-10-2006, 02:25
Umm, it didn't just show Rosa Parks. It also show Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Vietnam, Richard Nixon, 9/11, Katrina, Vietnam's protest, etc. The OP blew this one out of proportion. It's just showing we we've all been through as a country.

I got to this point in reading the posts and felt I had to respond immediately before finishing reading. So, sorry if it has been said already:


No shit, Sherlock.

Also, to those interested, I'm starting a chain called Jesus McChrists. Get a super size loaves and fishes. Feeds a crowd.
Wilgrove
10-10-2006, 02:28
I got to this point in reading the posts and felt I had to respond immediately before finishing reading. So, sorry if it has been said already:


No shit, Sherlock.

Yea, the point of that post was, that to me, it just seemed silly to just concetrate on one second of the commerical. I mean comon. Why isn't there any outrage over Martain Luther image being used, or Richard Nixon or anyone else. Why only Rosa Parks?
Desperate Measures
10-10-2006, 02:29
Yea, the point of that post was, that to me, it just seemed silly to just concetrate on one second of the commerical. I mean comon. Why isn't there any outrage over Martain Luther image being used, or Richard Nixon or anyone else. Why only Rosa Parks?

I figured one outrage was quite enough. Plenty of time to feel the outrage for the others.
Wilgrove
10-10-2006, 02:30
I figured one outrage was quite enough. Plenty of time to feel the outrage for the others.

Eh they're missing the forest for the trees. Meaning they're missing the message.
Desperate Measures
10-10-2006, 02:32
Eh they're missing the forest for the trees. Meaning they're missing the message.

My message or Chevy's? I'm a bit out of my head right now.
Wilgrove
10-10-2006, 02:33
My message or Chevy's? I'm a bit out of my head right now.

Chevy's.
Desperate Measures
10-10-2006, 02:35
Chevy's.

Oh, yeah. Their shit message. Be a part of history, buy a truck.
Wilgrove
10-10-2006, 02:37
Oh, yeah. Their shit message. Be a part of history, buy a truck.

Nah their message was that America has been through alot, and Chevy's been there with you with the Chevy's car, so remember our past, our present and look towards the future. Just make sure that future includes a Chevy.
Desperate Measures
10-10-2006, 02:39
Nah their message was that America has been through alot, and Chevy's been there with you with the Chevy's car, so remember our past, our present and look towards the future. Just make sure that future includes a Chevy.

More like: "Remember our past and present because we're freaked out about the future. Look. Ms Parks isn't letting us down. Are you saying you don't like black people?"
Wilgrove
10-10-2006, 02:41
More like: "Remember our past and present because we're freaked out about the future. Look. Ms Parks isn't letting us down. Are you saying you don't like black people?"

ROFL! Or it could be "If Rosa Park had a Chevy, she wouldn't have to sit at the back of the bus".
Desperate Measures
10-10-2006, 02:43
ROFL! Or it could be "If Rosa Park had a Chevy, she wouldn't have to sit at the back of the bus".

Ouch. This is going a bit far... though I'm laughing.
Wilgrove
10-10-2006, 02:46
Ouch. This is going a bit far... though I'm laughing.

This one is probably equally as bad. lol

Why ride the bus, when you can ride in the Chevy Monte Carlo! Here, you can ride in the front.
Velka Morava
10-10-2006, 14:02
the company that invented personal computers. I'd say they did a nice job changing the world.

Er... That was IBM.
Apple implemented the first GUI (Grafic User Interface) in a commercial operating system. They did not even invent it (Xerox tech park did invent it).