NationStates Jolt Archive


Free Speech?

MeansToAnEnd
09-10-2006, 16:19
Apparently, the extreme left doesn't believe in free speech if someone holds conflicting views. Next time you want to accuse someone of being fascist, vent your anger out against those who stray so far from the mainstream that it becomes obscene. It's getting out of contol; we need to enforce free speech in this country. This is the root reason why "free speech zones" were constructed -- not to squash free speech but to improve it. Without them, these violent "protesters" would drown out all other voices in their quest to subject America to their views. Here's a 2-minute clip on the disgraceful behavior of these ultra-liberals -- I believe O'Reilly puts it best.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?100506/100506_views_oreilly&OReilly_Factor_Talking_Points&Talking%20Points%3A%2010/5&Talking%20Points%3A%2010/5&Talking%20Points&-1&Opinion&164&&&new
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 16:20
This isn't going to end well, I'm afraid. *sigh*
Nguyen The Equalizer
09-10-2006, 16:20
Midgets intimidate me.

I'm not sure why, does anybody know?
Khadgar
09-10-2006, 16:22
Apparently, the extreme left doesn't believe in free speech if someone holds conflicting views. Next time you want to accuse someone of being fascist, vent your anger out against those who stray so far from the mainstream that it becomes obscene. It's getting out of contol; we need to enforce free speech in this country. This is the root reason why "free speech zones" were constructed -- not to squash free speech but to improve it. Without them, these violent "protesters" would drown out all other voices in their quest to subject America to their views. Here's a 2-minute clip on the disgraceful behavior of these ultra-liberals -- I believe O'Reilly puts it best.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?100506/100506_views_oreilly&OReilly_Factor_Talking_Points&Talking%20Points%3A%2010/5&Talking%20Points%3A%2010/5&Talking%20Points&-1&Opinion&164&&&new

Free speech zones, you mean like the fenced in areas the RNC used during their stay in NYC in 04? I thought that was cute.
UpwardThrust
09-10-2006, 16:22
This isn't going to end well, I'm afraid. *sigh*

Yeah when you make that many assumptions it never does...

I had a firy post to reply but figured it is better to not engage someone without a good point
Wanderjar
09-10-2006, 16:22
Man....*Puts on firefighter suit*


Looks like I'll be ready to put out the forum fire.


Anyway, to MeansToAnEnd:


NO SHIT!
[NS]Trilby63
09-10-2006, 16:22
Midgets intimidate me.

I'm not sure why, does anybody know?

Beacuse they're at the right height to headbutt you in the gonads.
Nguyen The Equalizer
09-10-2006, 16:24
Trilby63;11782995']Beacuse they're at the right height to headbutt you in the gonads.

Aaaaah. It all makes sense.

Now what's the difference between midgets and dwarves again?
The Nazz
09-10-2006, 16:24
Free speech zones = greater freedom of speech? :confused:
UpwardThrust
09-10-2006, 16:24
Does any extreem opinion want to allow people to speek against it? right or left?

This was a disgrasefull display by students ... nothing more then that
The SR
09-10-2006, 16:26
Apparently, the extreme left doesn't believe in free speech if someone holds conflicting views. Next time you want to accuse someone of being fascist, vent your anger out against those who stray so far from the mainstream that it becomes obscene. It's getting out of contol; we need to enforce free speech in this country. This is the root reason why "free speech zones" were constructed -- not to squash free speech but to improve it. Without them, these violent "protesters" would drown out all other voices in their quest to subject America to their views. Here's a 2-minute clip on the disgraceful behavior of these ultra-liberals -- I believe O'Reilly puts it best.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?100506/100506_views_oreilly&OReilly_Factor_Talking_Points&Talking%20Points%3A%2010/5&Talking%20Points%3A%2010/5&Talking%20Points&-1&Opinion&164&&&new

and the extreme christian right you represent are reknowned for defending free speech?

DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 16:27
Aaaaah. It all makes sense.

Now what's the difference between midgets and dwarves again?

There's no midget race in Dungeons & Dragons. :p
Peepelonia
09-10-2006, 16:28
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL

Then how shall he grow and prosper? Say you aint trolist are you?
Ice Hockey Players
09-10-2006, 16:28
Apparently, the extreme left doesn't believe in free speech if someone holds conflicting views.

Neither does the extreme right, goofy. They're called the "extreme" left and right for a reason. The "common sense" left, as I will now take to calling them, believes in free speech for everyone, no matter how stupid and inane it is. I could dig up plenty of angry right-wing protests if I needed to, including some that accuse liberals of supporting terrorism. The idea that I, as a liberal, support terrorism is, quite possibly, the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Wanderjar
09-10-2006, 16:29
Then how shall he grow and prosper? Say you aint trolist are you?

I've tried chasing him away with Anti-Troll Holy Water, but it doesn't work....:(
PsychoticDan
09-10-2006, 16:30
Is this abut the Columbia University thing? Didn't we already do this dance in another thread?
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 16:31
I've tried chasing him away with Anti-Troll Holy Water, but it doesn't work....:(

Now that's just silly. Trolls aren't undead, so holy water has no effect on them. We need magical weapons to prevent the troll's regeneration.

Yeah, I'm taking a D&D bend in this thread. :D
Europa Maxima
09-10-2006, 16:31
Well he does have a point - many so-called US left-wing liberals nowadays are so anti-liberal (e.g. advocating silencing certain groups) that it's almost funny.
Wilgrove
09-10-2006, 16:31
MeanstoanEnd does have a point though. Many people (not all) don't know how to take opposing views, so they'll say stupid shit like "You're a terrorist" or "Your a right winger!" etc. So yea, MeanstoanEnd does have a point.
Wanderjar
09-10-2006, 16:32
Now that's just silly. Trolls aren't undead, so holy water has no effect on them. We need magical weapons to prevent the troll's regeneration.

Yeah, I'm taking a D&D bend in this thread. :D

Damnit! I didn't think of it that way!

*Rumages about for weaponry*

Ok! I got my Mace of Pwnage!
Arthais101
09-10-2006, 16:32
While your ignorance of constitutional law is astounding, lemme fill you in.

The first amendment provides for one thing, that the government shall not limit your speech by law. That is what free speech is. It says NOTHING at all about whether or not I can drown you out by yelling louder.

You have every right to say what you want to say. And I have every right to yell and scream at the top of my lungs to drown you out. Free speech means that there shall be no law limiting what you say, not that I have to in any way respect what you're saying. It works both ways. Want the freedom to make your statement? Then i have the freedom to make mine louder than yours.
Arthais101
09-10-2006, 16:32
MeanstoanEnd does have a point though. Many people (not all) don't know how to take opposing views, so they'll say stupid shit like "You're a terrorist" or "Your a right winger!" etc. So yea, MeanstoanEnd does have a point.

and in doing so it is an exercise of their free speech.
Khadgar
09-10-2006, 16:32
Well he does have a point - many so-called US left-wing liberals nowadays are so anti-liberal (e.g. advocating silencing certain groups) that it's almost funny.

That's because anyone the right wingers hate are referred to as "liberal" they use it as a catch all slur.
Europa Maxima
09-10-2006, 16:33
You have every right to say what you want to say. And I have every right to yell and scream at the top of my lungs to drown you out. Free speech means that there shall be no law limiting what you say, not that I have to in any way respect what you're saying. It works both ways. Want the freedom to make your statement? Then i have the freedom to make mine louder than yours.
Isn't it a bit hypocritical for a liberal in favour of civil liberties to argue that an opposing individual/group's liberties be stripped? I think this is what he means.
Europa Maxima
09-10-2006, 16:34
That's because anyone the right wingers hate are referred to as "liberal" they use it as a catch all slur.
And vice-versa, they get called fascists. The problem is that many of these extremists are actually self-proclaimed liberals - it is the hypocrisy that is funny.
Peepelonia
09-10-2006, 16:35
Isn't it a bit hypocritical for a liberal in favour of civil liberties to argue that an opposing individual/group's liberties be stripped? I think this is what he means.

Ummm I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest, ummmm unless of course that the opponents POv is just plain wrong!;)
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 16:35
Damnit! I didn't think of it that way!

*Rumages about for weaponry*

Ok! I got my Mace of Pwnage!


Great, I've got my Rod of Lordly Might.

Oh, wait...that's um...something else in my hand...

Move along! Nothing to see here!

>.>

<.<
UpwardThrust
09-10-2006, 16:36
Isn't it a bit hypocritical for a liberal in favour of civil liberties to argue that an opposing individual/group's liberties be stripped? I think this is what he means.

Someone here is arguing that an opposing group's liberties be stripped?
Arthais101
09-10-2006, 16:36
Isn't it a bit hypocritical for a liberal in favour of civil liberties to argue that an opposing individual/group's liberties be stripped? I think this is what he means.

I couldn't get the thing to play, so I'm not 100% sure what it's about. Can you tell me specifically what this is about, and what group the "liberals" are advocating be stripped of their rights?
Nguyen The Equalizer
09-10-2006, 16:38
Great, I've got my Rod of Lordly Might.

Oh, wait...that's um...something else in my hand...

Move along! Nothing to see here!

>.>

<.<

Ok, I've rolled a 22 and 16, so that gives me +20 for my 'orgasmic cry' and +25 for a 'purple hammer blow'. Your mage is dead.
Europa Maxima
09-10-2006, 16:38
Someone here is arguing that an opposing group's liberties be stripped?
I am referring to self-proclaimed liberals who cannot stand opposing views - for instance, that fascists be silenced simply because their views conflict with said liberal's. And vice-versa, of course. In the second case though it isn't as odd. One self-proclaimed liberal NS poster I have in mind did actually say something to this effect.
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 16:38
I couldn't get the thing to play, so I'm not 100% sure what it's about. Can you tell me specifically what this is about, and what group the "liberals" are advocating be stripped of their rights?

They're in favour of limiting the advancement of non-human races, like gnomes and dwarves, in certain character classes, which I find, frankly, appalling. :p
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 16:39
Ok, I've rolled a 22 and 16, so that gives me +20 for my 'orgasmic cry' and +25 for a 'purple hammer blow'. Your mage is dead.

I'm pretty sure I get a saving throw... :p
Arthais101
09-10-2006, 16:39
I am referring to self-proclaimed liberals who cannot stand opposing views - for instance, that fascists be silenced simply because their views conflict with said liberal's. And vice-versa, of course. In the second case though it isn't as odd. One self-proclaimed liberal NS poster I have in mind did actually say something to this effect.

Please give me an example, and if this isn't related to the OP's link then this seems to be an off topic aside. Please provide something that shows "liberals" doing this?
Eutrusca
09-10-2006, 16:39
Apparently, the extreme left doesn't believe in free speech if someone holds conflicting views. Next time you want to accuse someone of being fascist, vent your anger out against those who stray so far from the mainstream that it becomes obscene. It's getting out of contol; we need to enforce free speech in this country. This is the root reason why "free speech zones" were constructed -- not to squash free speech but to improve it. Without them, these violent "protesters" would drown out all other voices in their quest to subject America to their views. Here's a 2-minute clip on the disgraceful behavior of these ultra-liberals -- I believe O'Reilly puts it best.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?100506/100506_views_oreilly&OReilly_Factor_Talking_Points&Talking%20Points%3A%2010/5&Talking%20Points%3A%2010/5&Talking%20Points&-1&Opinion&164&&&new

And you're somehow surprised by this? The left has always advocated freedom of speech ... as long as you agree with them. :(
Wanderjar
09-10-2006, 16:40
Great, I've got my Rod of Lordly Might.

Oh, wait...that's um...something else in my hand...

Move along! Nothing to see here!

>.>

<.<

LOL!!!
Europa Maxima
09-10-2006, 16:41
Please give me an example, and if this isn't related to the OP's link then this seems to be an off topic aside. Please provide something that shows "liberals" doing this?
I will not name names - it is specifically a liberal tendency I have encountered. "Liberal" in quotation marks indeed - for more than one reason. Now, either you learn that on NS posts do not always strictly deal with the OP or you complain pointlessly.

An example: http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=2079
Arthais101
09-10-2006, 16:42
I will not name names - it is specifically a liberal tendency I have encountered. "Liberal" in quotation marks indeed - for more than one reason. Now, either you learn that on NS posts do not always strictly deal with the OP or you complain pointlessly.

I have seen a republican advocate that all non christians in america either be forcably converted or deported. Is this a typical republican viewpoint? There are assholes on either side.
UpwardThrust
09-10-2006, 16:42
And you're somehow surprised by this? The left has always advocated freedom of speech ... as long as you agree with them. :(

Yeah because any extreem political group is the beacon of freedom of speach:rolleyes:

There are plenty of "leftists" on this forum that prove your steriotyping incorrect
Europa Maxima
09-10-2006, 16:44
I have seen a republican advocate that all non christians in america either be forcably converted or deported. Is this a typical republican viewpoint? There are assholes on either side.
...hence I say these kind "liberals" should not even call themselves as such. They are hypocrites of the highest magnitude. For a republican who advocates that, it'd depend on whether or not they stand by civil liberties in general.
Arthais101
09-10-2006, 16:46
...hence I say these kind "liberals" should not even call themselves as such. They are hypocrites of the highest magnitude. For a republican who advocates that, it'd depend on whether or not they stand by civil liberties in general.

perhaps I should say "conservative" as the main conservative mantra is small government, less private intrusion, and doing such would certainly violate the tenants of conservative ideology just as trying to limit anyone's freedom of speech would violate liberal ideology.
The Nazz
09-10-2006, 16:47
Yeah because any extreem political group is the beacon of freedom of speach:rolleyes:

There are plenty of "leftists" on this forum that prove your steriotyping incorrect
Thank you, Upward Thrust, for smiting the stupid so I didn't have to.
Khadgar
09-10-2006, 16:47
And you're somehow surprised by this? The left has always advocated freedom of speech ... as long as you agree with them. :(

And the right advocates locking dissidants up in Gitmo and spying on political rivals.


Ain't generalizations fun?
Kragdjen
09-10-2006, 16:48
I live in Canada, where fox news is forbidden. Seriously, thought. The CRTC (Canada Radio and Television Critics) will not give FOX news a liscence to broadcast in Canada because they think fox news is biased to the right, even though the CBC is biased to the Left. But I guess since because the CRTC is run entirely by Liberals who where appointed into the CRTC during the jean chretien and paul martin regimes, its no wonder they would ban FOX news. Because in Canada one of the identifing traits of the Liberal left is hating America. The most Anti-America provinces in canada are quebic and Ontario, which are also the most Left-wing provinces in canada. The most pro-america province in canada is Alberta, which is also the most right wing. Makes me wonder why the left hates America.
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 16:49
...hence I say these kind "liberals" should not even call themselves as such. They are hypocrites of the highest magnitude. For a republican who advocates that, it'd depend on whether or not they stand by civil liberties in general.

I would say, in either case, we're talking about people with the Lawful Evil alignment.
Farnhamia
09-10-2006, 16:51
I have seen a republican advocate that all non christians in america either be forcably converted or deported. Is this a typical republican viewpoint? There are assholes on either side.

Thank you. I'm as liberal as the next person and I am frankly embarrassed by what some other liberals get up to. Maybe the idiots on the extreme wings of both sides, right and left, should be sent on a nice long cruise together and let the rest of us work something out.
Eutrusca
09-10-2006, 16:52
Yeah because any extreem political group is the beacon of freedom of speach:rolleyes:

There are plenty of "leftists" on this forum that prove your steriotyping incorrect

As with fundie Christians, it's the noisy, unwashed rabble of the left that people remember most.
Wanderjar
09-10-2006, 16:53
I would say, in either case, we're talking about people with the Lawful Evil alignment.



I smell the taint of Chaos in this thread....
Peepelonia
09-10-2006, 16:53
I would say, in either case, we're talking about people with the Lawful Evil alignment.


Careful, careful, Oi mate your nerdness is showin!
Eutrusca
09-10-2006, 16:53
Thank you. I'm as liberal as the next person and I am frankly embarrassed by what some other liberals get up to. Maybe the idiots on the extreme wings of both sides, right and left, should be sent on a nice long cruise together and let the rest of us work something out.

I would prefer to drop them all on an island, give each one an M-16, and let them settle their differences. LMAO!
Europa Maxima
09-10-2006, 16:53
I would say, in either case, we're talking about people with the Lawful Evil alignment.
You're assuming they have tact and abide by order - maybe they just want to silence their foes by force. More like chaotic evil then. ;) Neutral evil if by stealth. :)
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 16:54
I smell the taint of Chaos in this thread....

I'm guessing the OP is Chaotic Neutral.
Wanderjar
09-10-2006, 16:54
I'm guessing the OP is Chaotic Neutral.

Chaos Undivided ;)



...I CALL FOR AN EXTERMINATUS ON THIS THREAD!
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 16:55
You're assuming they have tact and abide by order - maybe they just want to silence their foes by force. More like chaotic evil then. ;) Neutral evil if by stealth. :)

No, they want laws and regulations from positions of authority to bolster their side -- hence, Lawful Evil. ;)
The SR
09-10-2006, 16:55
I am referring to self-proclaimed liberals who cannot stand opposing views - for instance, that fascists be silenced simply because their views conflict with said liberal's. And vice-versa, of course. In the second case though it isn't as odd. One self-proclaimed liberal NS poster I have in mind did actually say something to this effect.

i was arguing that fascists should have their freedom to march and agitiate limited because of the potential (intended) results of their actions, not because i disagree with them. not their right to 'speech' per say. its the physical manifestations of their actions i want to constrain. that was specifically in relation to some pimply american posters who were bleating about the british union of fascists 'right' to march into a jewish area of london in 1936. but not the 'right' of the locals to send em packing before they desecrated synagogues.

i disagree with everyone, but I would only advocate limiting the 'freedoms' given to groups who advocate turning jews to ash and that kind of thing. in the same way US tv wont show osama's videos with the sound on perhaps?

but im not liberal (at least i think not, what do you americans mean when you use that term?) so i presume its not me you refer to.
Wanderjar
09-10-2006, 16:56
How cool would that be to be a Mod? If you don't like something, just go in, type "EXTERMINATUS!" and delete the thread or lock it. How sweet is that?
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 16:57
Chaos Undivided ;)



...I CALL FOR AN EXTERMINATUS ON THIS THREAD!

http://www.iptablog.org/images/dalek.jpg
"EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!"
Europa Maxima
09-10-2006, 16:58
but im not liberal (at least i think not, what do you americans mean when you use that term?) so i presume its not me you refer to.
And I am not an American! :) I'm a Euro-liberal. Americans usually mean leftists, and more commonly, Democrats when they refer to a liberal. We refer to classical liberals.
Arthais101
09-10-2006, 16:59
So we're all here waiting for Sigmar?
Europa Maxima
09-10-2006, 16:59
How cool would that be to be a Mod? If you don't like something, just go in, type "EXTERMINATUS!" and delete the thread or lock it. How sweet is that?
You lawful evil bastard! :eek:
UpwardThrust
09-10-2006, 17:00
As with fundie Christians, it's the noisy, unwashed rabble of the left that people remember most.

Yup and most around here try to rise above grouping all of them togeather with the right ...
Khadgar
09-10-2006, 17:01
I live in Canada, where fox news is forbidden. Seriously, thought. The CRTC (Canada Radio and Television Critics) will not give FOX news a liscence to broadcast in Canada because they think fox news is biased to the right, even though the CBC is biased to the Left. But I guess since because the CRTC is run entirely by Liberals who where appointed into the CRTC during the jean chretien and paul martin regimes, its no wonder they would ban FOX news. Because in Canada one of the identifing traits of the Liberal left is hating America. The most Anti-America provinces in canada are quebic and Ontario, which are also the most Left-wing provinces in canada. The most pro-america province in canada is Alberta, which is also the most right wing. Makes me wonder why the left hates America.

That's why I wouldn't move to Canada. Ya'll are entirely too fascist. The idea of Free Speech never took hold up there did it?
Farnhamia
09-10-2006, 17:03
That's why I wouldn't move to Canada. Ya'll are entirely too fascist. The idea of Free Speech never took hold up there did it?

Perhaps they left it outside one day and it froze. If that's true, it's damn silly.
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 17:04
Careful, careful, Oi mate your nerdness is showin!


I'm not a nerd, dammit! I'm a geek and a dork! :p
Wanderjar
09-10-2006, 17:07
http://www.iptablog.org/images/dalek.jpg
"EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!"

HAHAHAHA!
The SR
09-10-2006, 17:07
And I am not an American! :) I'm a Euro-liberal. Americans usually mean leftists, and more commonly, Democrats when they refer to a liberal. We refer to classical liberals.

well you should put that on your profile then shouldnt you....


oh, shit. :p

silly SR.

but my point stands. no free speech for fascists. no more appeasement.
Europa Maxima
09-10-2006, 17:11
well you should put that on your profile then shouldnt you....
My profile already (and perhaps overabundantly) describes my policital position(s).

but my point stands. no free speech for fascists. no more appeasement.
Unless they resort to violence, they are as entitled to it as much as anyone else is.

Anyways, I'm off for a nap. I'll catch up on NS later.
Peepelonia
09-10-2006, 17:15
I'm not a nerd, dammit! I'm a geek and a dork! :p


Ahhh my freind differant words same meaning....:D
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 17:16
Ahhh my freind differant words same meaning....:D

No, they connote different things. ;)
Peepelonia
09-10-2006, 17:19
No, they connote different things. ;)

Heheh yeah okay, and only a nerd would know that?
Eris Rising
09-10-2006, 17:56
Apparently, the extreme left doesn't believe in free speech if someone holds conflicting views. Next time you want to accuse someone of being fascist, vent your anger out against those who stray so far from the mainstream that it becomes obscene.

Well we HAVE been venting our anger at you, but you complain about it all the time . . .
Eris Rising
09-10-2006, 17:59
Now that's just silly. Trolls aren't undead, so holy water has no effect on them. We need magical weapons to prevent the troll's regeneration.

Yeah, I'm taking a D&D bend in this thread. :D

Well then you should know that it's fire and acid that stops trolls not magic weapons! (Unless of course the magic weapon in question produces fire and acid.)
Eris Rising
09-10-2006, 18:01
I couldn't get the thing to play, so I'm not 100% sure what it's about. Can you tell me specifically what this is about, and what group the "liberals" are advocating be stripped of their rights?

And I can't play it at all . . . library terminal here . . .
Eris Rising
09-10-2006, 18:03
I smell the taint of Chaos in this thread....

<sniffs armpit> That's me I think . . .
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 18:03
Well then you should know that it's fire and acid that stops trolls not magic weapons! (Unless of course the magic weapon in question produces fire and acid.)

I know that they all do, but I was trying to set myself up for my "rod" joke early. Way to ruin teh funnay. :p
Cyrian space
09-10-2006, 18:11
I know that they all do, but I was trying to set myself up for my "rod" joke early. Way to ruin teh funnay. :p

What do you mean? MY rod of lordly might produces fire and acid aplenty!

Maybe I should see a cleric about that...
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 18:28
What do you mean? MY rod of lordly might produces fire and acid aplenty!

Maybe I should see a cleric about that...

I'm not sure a healing spell's gonna help that. You should try penicillin.
Khadgar
09-10-2006, 18:36
A paladin can cure anything, lay hands! Though only if you're under 18.
Cluichstan
09-10-2006, 18:39
A paladin can cure anything, lay hands! Though only if you're under 18.

Pedo much? :eek:
Khadgar
09-10-2006, 18:48
Pedo much? :eek:

Well you know those holy men!
Cyrian space
09-10-2006, 19:57
Well you know those holy men!

Someone needs to tell Representative Foley that he really needs to stop trying to play Paladins.
German Nightmare
09-10-2006, 21:05
Aaaaah. It all makes sense.

Now what's the difference between midgets and dwarves again?
Dwarves have developed this particular breed called the trollslayer.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Trollslayer.gif
I have yet to see that development in midgets...
I smell the taint of Chaos in this thread....
Chaos Undivided ;)
...I CALL FOR AN EXTERMINATUS ON THIS THREAD!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Inquisition.jpg
Don't you just love Cyclonic Torpedoes? How many do you think we'd need for this thread? One? Maybe two?!? Exterminatus in Extermis for t3h win!
So we're all here waiting for Sigmar?
Nay, we're waiting for Gotrek and his buddy Felix to appear...
Well we HAVE been venting our anger at you, but you complain about it all the time . . .
You read my mind - first thing I thought upon reading the OP. :D
Duntscruwithus
09-10-2006, 21:10
Midgets intimidate me.

I'm not sure why, does anybody know?

You are afraid of stepping on one by accident maybe?
Clanbrassil Street
09-10-2006, 21:13
America doesn't have an extreme left.

And you're somehow surprised by this? The left has always advocated freedom of speech ... as long as you agree with them. :(
The left invented free speech rights, while the right traditionally hated it.

Fortunately most right-wingers have drifted sufficiently left to support it.
Nguyen The Equalizer
09-10-2006, 21:14
I think this woman could be related to 'MeansToAnEnd'

*CENSORED*
Clanbrassil Street
09-10-2006, 21:18
I don't see why people who openly admire dictators who killed millions (Hitler) deserve free speech.

Nazism invalidates free speech rights.
Farnhamia
09-10-2006, 21:22
I think this woman could be related to 'MeansToAnEnd'

http://von.kelly.googlepages.com/home

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Cyrian space
09-10-2006, 21:31
I don't see why people who openly admire dictators who killed millions (Hitler) deserve free speech.

Nazism invalidates free speech rights.
I'm going to go in two directions for this.
First off, free speech is free speech. If we start trying to make descisions on who does and doesn't get free speech, then soon enough we're looking at nearly every group and saying "No, they don't get free speech either." Then, soon enough, those eyes fall on something you say, and you get denied your own free speech. The idea that certain people don't deserve free speech is a fascist idea. Attacking Fascism with fascist ideas is rather stupid.

Second, bad ideas grow in seclusion. When they are properly aired out, and everyone can see them and has an opportunity to point out their flaws, people will understand them, and the arguments against them, and will not be vulnerable to a smooth-talking person with an agenda.
Nguyen The Equalizer
09-10-2006, 21:32
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

There's more.
Farnhamia
09-10-2006, 21:37
There's more.

Oh, nooooooooooo! *flees*
Vacuumhead
09-10-2006, 21:54
Dwarves have developed this particular breed called the trollslayer.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Trollslayer.gif
I have yet to see that development in midgets...
Stop discriminating against trolls. They are a player race after all, they deserve equal treatment. :mad:
Cyrian space
09-10-2006, 22:14
Stop discriminating against trolls. They are a player race after all, they deserve equal treatment. :mad:

Trolls a player race? Are we playing Shadowrun now?
The Psyker
09-10-2006, 22:14
LOL Holy shit! Soooo many gaming references:p
Laerod
09-10-2006, 22:15
Apparently, the extreme left doesn't believe in free speech if someone holds conflicting views. Next time you want to accuse someone of being fascist, vent your anger out against those who stray so far from the mainstream that it becomes obscene. It's getting out of contol; we need to enforce free speech in this country. This is the root reason why "free speech zones" were constructed -- not to squash free speech but to improve it. Without them, these violent "protesters" would drown out all other voices in their quest to subject America to their views. Here's a 2-minute clip on the disgraceful behavior of these ultra-liberals -- I believe O'Reilly puts it best.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?100506/100506_views_oreilly&OReilly_Factor_Talking_Points&Talking%20Points%3A%2010/5&Talking%20Points%3A%2010/5&Talking%20Points&-1&Opinion&164&&&new
Bill O'Reilly wouldn't know "ultra-left" if it kicked him in the face. (Here's a hint, it would be the left foot and with red shoelaces.)
Congo--Kinshasa
09-10-2006, 22:20
America doesn't have an extreme left.

Noam Chomsky? Howard Zinn? Ward Churchill? Ed Asner?
German Nightmare
09-10-2006, 22:29
Stop discriminating against trolls. They are a player race after all, they deserve equal treatment. :mad:
Ah, but that's just me, having listened to the Kelly's Heroes movie theme song "Burning Bridges" one time too often.
Vacuumhead
09-10-2006, 22:32
Trolls a player race? Are we playing Shadowrun now?

You can play them in D&D, check out the monster manual. I don't remember exactly what the character level for them is, it is quite high though.
Eutrusca
09-10-2006, 22:33
America doesn't have an extreme left.

And what planet do you live on? Hmmm?
Laerod
09-10-2006, 22:36
And what planet do you live on? Hmmm?Name some.
Congo--Kinshasa
09-10-2006, 22:39
Name some.

I did. Granted, there are no extreme leftists in government, but there are extreme leftists.
Europa Maxima
09-10-2006, 22:42
Stop discriminating against trolls. They are a player race after all, they deserve equal treatment. :mad:
Silly dwarves, discrimination is no fun - why spare certain races/species and kill others. Just kill them all. ^^ They'll receive equal amounts of balefire, that's for sure. My drow clerics are good at that.
The Lone Alliance
09-10-2006, 22:52
I keep telling everyone to put morons like this on your Ignore list...
Free Randomers
09-10-2006, 23:10
Neither the far left or the far right are proponents of freedom of speech. Although in addition to curtailing freedom of speech the specialty of the conservative far right is telling you how to act and the speciality of the 'liberal' far left is telling you how to think.