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Reincarnation?

Delator
09-10-2006, 07:30
Assuming, for a moment, that one is reincarnated after death...

...what animals might you like to come back as?

I find a good way to do it is to pick three animals...an ocean-dwelling swimmer, a flying animal, and a surface/subterranian creature.

I've got my own I would like to be, which I'll share in a while, but I'm curious what others might come back as, if given an option. :)
The Beautiful Darkness
09-10-2006, 07:35
A cat. I'm not sure about the other environements (water and subterranean).
Delator
09-10-2006, 07:44
A cat. I'm not sure about the other environements (water and subterranean).

Any specific type of cat? Housecat? Cheetah? Lion?
Heretichia
09-10-2006, 07:48
An elephant! They are huge, gray and have big ears... and.. trunks!
An african elephant that is.

As for sea creature, I'll go for an Orca, just so I can dismiss Michael Jackson once and for all by being both black and white at the same time.

And lastly, A badger, for the same reason as stated with the Orca.
The Beautiful Darkness
09-10-2006, 07:52
Any specific type of cat? Housecat? Cheetah? Lion?

House cat. Probably a Siamese. I want to lie in the sun all day and be pampered. :p
Cuthroatia
09-10-2006, 07:58
Reincarnation is, at least as it is presented in the religions that believe it, mathematically impossible.

Better than 90% of all the animals (Human and other) that have ever lived are alive today at this moment. Thus, if we have all been reincarnated then where did all the new animals come from?

For Reincarnation to work you'd have to start out with a large population caused when the cosmic nothingness (Nirvanna) lost its balance and created the illusion of this universe and that population would decrease at a slow endomatic rate over time as various souls became enlightened and acheived the cosmic nothingness again. What we see instead is a high endomatic population growth.

Because the population of all animals as a whole (Individual kinds may go extinct but there are more rats, cats, dogs and cows and such that cover the loss) is increasing you have only four options. Either: 1) new souls are being created all the time. 2) Some bodies have no souls 3) Some souls have two bodies 4) There is no such thing as reincarnation.

Number 4 is the only answer that can be defended logically.
Kyronea
09-10-2006, 08:11
Reincarnation is, at least as it is presented in the religions that believe it, mathematically impossible.

Better than 90% of all the animals (Human and other) that have ever lived are alive today at this moment. Thus, if we have all been reincarnated then where did all the new animals come from?

For Reincarnation to work you'd have to start out with a large population caused when the cosmic nothingness (Nirvanna) lost its balance and created the illusion of this universe and that population would decrease at a slow endomatic rate over time as various souls became enlightened and acheived the cosmic nothingness again. What we see instead is a high endomatic population growth.

Because the population of all animals as a whole (Individual kinds may go extinct but there are more rats, cats, dogs and cows and such that cover the loss) is increasing you have only four options. Either: 1) new souls are being created all the time. 2) Some bodies have no souls 3) Some souls have two bodies 4) There is no such thing as reincarnation.

Number 4 is the only answer that can be defended logically.
I love you. :fluffle:
Delator
09-10-2006, 08:22
Reincarnation is, at least as it is presented in the religions that believe it, mathematically impossible.

Better than 90% of all the animals (Human and other) that have ever lived are alive today at this moment. Thus, if we have all been reincarnated then where did all the new animals come from?

For Reincarnation to work you'd have to start out with a large population caused when the cosmic nothingness (Nirvanna) lost its balance and created the illusion of this universe and that population would decrease at a slow endomatic rate over time as various souls became enlightened and acheived the cosmic nothingness again. What we see instead is a high endomatic population growth.

Because the population of all animals as a whole (Individual kinds may go extinct but there are more rats, cats, dogs and cows and such that cover the loss) is increasing you have only four options. Either: 1) new souls are being created all the time. 2) Some bodies have no souls 3) Some souls have two bodies 4) There is no such thing as reincarnation.

Number 4 is the only answer that can be defended logically.


Who said anything about logical arguments? I wasn't speculating about reincarnation.

I was just curious as to what animals NSers might like to be, if they could...after all, 'tis an odd bunch, and the answers should be quite entertaining. :)
Turquoise Days
09-10-2006, 08:25
Can I call the uber-powerful alien being?
Delator
09-10-2006, 08:28
Can I call the uber-powerful alien being?

Better stick to non-human Earth dwelling creatures...otherwise we're likely to be swamped with a bunch of Yodas or something. :p
Turquoise Days
09-10-2006, 08:35
Better stick to non-human Earth dwelling creatures...otherwise we're likely to be swamped with a bunch of Yodas or something. :p

Too late you are! :p

Umm, I call a golden eagle, a dolphin (the kind that live in warm sunny waters with lots of surfers, mind) and eh, something land based.
Delator
09-10-2006, 08:42
Umm, I call a golden eagle, a dolphin (the kind that live in warm sunny waters with lots of surfers, mind) and eh, something land based.

Dung Beetle? :p
Aryavartha
09-10-2006, 09:09
Reincarnation is, at least as it is presented in the religions that believe it, mathematically impossible.

Better than 90% of all the animals (Human and other) that have ever lived are alive today at this moment. Thus, if we have all been reincarnated then where did all the new animals come from?

According to Hindu traditions atleast, there are infinite universes and infinite souls. One's soul might go anywhere (per its karma) and any soul can take birth in this earth. So there is no "law of conservation of souls".
Posi
09-10-2006, 09:54
Land: Grizzly Bear
Subterranian: Mole
Bat: Griffen
Aquatic: Polar Bear.
Todays Lucky Number
09-10-2006, 10:17
Grizzly Wolf.
Supville
09-10-2006, 11:05
For the ocean swimmers, I'd go a Great White Shark. After all, an animal that has never had to evolve for millions upon millions of years simply must be a good choice, yes?

For the air, I'll pick a seagull. Interaction with humans and a wide range of exquisite fish and chips! Also, no threat of human hunting, because who hunts seagulls?

Land or subterranean... hmm, this is a hard choice, but I'd have to go for a fox. Cunning creatures they are, able to slink their way out of everything except fox traps and rifle sights. Oh well, I'd keep away from human settlements, or better yet, I'll be an arctic fox.

There you have it, and if i had to choose subterranean, i'd go for meerkats! They're kinda subterranean... aren't they?
Big Jim P
09-10-2006, 11:36
What I would want to come back as:
Orca
Falcon
Wolf.
Angelina Jolies underpants :D

What I am likely to come back as:
A really nasty disease.
Boonytopia
09-10-2006, 11:39
A seal. They look like they have a lot of fun. Or an otter.
Ifreann
09-10-2006, 11:40
Some manner of flying amphbian. A frog with wings.
Jello Biafra
09-10-2006, 13:07
Assuming, for a moment, that one is reincarnated after death...

...what animals might you like to come back as?

I find a good way to do it is to pick three animals...an ocean-dwelling swimmer, a flying animal, and a surface/subterranian creature.A sea turtle, because turtles rule, a bat, because it would be fun to fly shrieking into people's hair, and a housecat of no particular breed.

Reincarnation is, at least as it is presented in the religions that believe it, mathematically impossible.

Better than 90% of all the animals (Human and other) that have ever lived are alive today at this moment. Thus, if we have all been reincarnated then where did all the new animals come from?.And if some people are reincarnated as bacteria?
Bottle
09-10-2006, 13:12
Assuming, for a moment, that one is reincarnated after death...

...what animals might you like to come back as?

I find a good way to do it is to pick three animals...an ocean-dwelling swimmer, a flying animal, and a surface/subterranian creature.

I've got my own I would like to be, which I'll share in a while, but I'm curious what others might come back as, if given an option. :)
I'll need at least seven or eight more lifetimes to get human completely figured out. After that, maybe I'd move on to something really complicated, like an octopus.
Monkeypimp
09-10-2006, 13:15
I'm coming back as ebola.
Zyxtel
09-10-2006, 13:23
Perhaps I shall try "human" in my next incarnation.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
09-10-2006, 13:23
...what animals might you like to come back as?

I find a good way to do it is to pick three animals...an ocean-dwelling swimmer, a flying animal, and a surface/subterranian creature.

Ocean-dwelling: sea otter

Flying: hmmm, dunno. Not big on birds. A bumblebee maybe? :p

Surface: cat
Whereyouthinkyougoing
09-10-2006, 13:25
House cat. Probably a Siamese. I want to lie in the sun all day and be pampered. :p
Exactically. :D
Kanabia
09-10-2006, 13:27
Hm. An orca, a peregrine falcon, and a komodo dragon.
German Nightmare
09-10-2006, 13:58
Dung Beetle? :p
Yay! http://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/wikihiero/img/hiero_L1.pnghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Egypt.gif
A seal. They look like they have a lot of fun. Or an otter.
A seal, eh? I believe your chances to pick again soon would rise tremendously... http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/droh.gif

Why can't I be reincarnated (if need really be) as a human again? Not that I could really pick up where I left off, but being human ain't bad after all!
Oeck
09-10-2006, 14:11
Ocean-dwelling: sea otter


This calls for pictures. I have this sudden crazy craving for cute otter pictures, and you won't let me down, right?

Oh, and: turtle, Seeigel or penguin(Germans, help me, too lazy to dictionary this), umm, does lady bug count as airborne?
Naliitr
09-10-2006, 14:20
A blue whale wouldn't be that bad.
Andaluciae
09-10-2006, 14:21
Human. I rather like sentience, thankyouverymuch.
Ny Nordland
09-10-2006, 14:23
Assuming, for a moment, that one is reincarnated after death...

...what animals might you like to come back as?

I find a good way to do it is to pick three animals...an ocean-dwelling swimmer, a flying animal, and a surface/subterranian creature.

I've got my own I would like to be, which I'll share in a while, but I'm curious what others might come back as, if given an option. :)

Human
Jesuites
09-10-2006, 14:35
a worm in the church yard...

or, eventually, if you insist... Cthuluh.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
09-10-2006, 14:50
A seal. They look like they have a lot of fun. Or an otter. Hey, I missed this earlier. Yay, we could totally frolick together! :p

This calls for pictures. I have this sudden crazy craving for cute otter pictures, and you won't let me down, right?
Oh noes!

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l192/whereyouthinkyougoing/34438371.jpg

I normally wouldn't let you down, but I'm handicapped by the fact that I have the cutest sea otter pic ever in my possession (on non-digital media, sadly) so whatever I'd find on the internet just can't measure up. Sorry. ;)

Oh, and: turtle, Seeigel or penguin(Germans, help me, too lazy to dictionary this)
What, penguin? It's penguin, silly. :p

Nah, Seeigel is sea urchin. And why anyone would want to be a sea urchin is beyond me.
Farnhamia
09-10-2006, 15:19
Hmm ...

Terrestrial: A housecat, calico, preferably, and a well-pampered one.

Aquatic: A sea-otter, they're cute (thanks, WYTYG!)

Flying: A condor, only because I've always remembered the bit from that very short-lived Richard Benjamin / Paula Prentiss sitcom where one of the characters sees a couple of caged canaries and cries, "Condors! They go for your eyes!"
Wilgrove
09-10-2006, 15:25
A Siamese cat.
Wanderjar
09-10-2006, 15:51
I'd want to be a panda bear.

...I'm not sure why



Either that, or the O RLY? Owl


http://www.heelvervelend.nl/images/orly-owl.jpg
The Beautiful Darkness
09-10-2006, 16:10
Lol, Dodgy link. :p
Delator
09-10-2006, 22:38
BUMP!

Oh, and I would be...

Land - Siberian Tiger
Air - A hawk, or possibly an owl
Sea - Sea Lion
Pyotr
09-10-2006, 22:41
An albatross, I would roam the world taking the biggest dumps on the most expensive cars.
Chandelier
09-10-2006, 22:58
Land- a housecat with black fur, or maybe a sloth
Air- a bald eagle
Water- a manatee