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If so, how?

*inspired by Celtlund's thread*

Voting will be my birthday present to myself.

Yes, I will, but my absentee ballot's not here yet, so I'm not even sure yet who's running in all races (I reside in CA, but I'm stationed in HI). Once I research each person on the ballot, then I'll decide.

Voting will be my birthday present to myself.
Ah, that's right... we share a b-day (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11074160&postcount=8), remember? :D

Ah, that's right... we share a b-day (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11074160&postcount=8), remember? :DSo how'd that work out? Will you be able to vote?

So how'd that work out? Will you be able to vote?
After Google Earth thoughtfully provided links (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502215) to voter registration sites, I sent an email to the state election board asking if it would be allowed. Still no response... although there's still some time left.

Are you turning 18 that day, too? If so, how's that working out?

After Google Earth thoughtfully provided links (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502215) to voter registration sites, I sent an email to the state election board asking if it would be allowed. Still no response... although there's still some time left.

Are you turning 18 that day, too? If so, how's that working out?

Well, you'd better call someone, because you might have missed the window already.

As for me, I passed 18 almost 20 years ago. I've got a 16 year old daughter.

I wish I could vote this year. But I'm 16 now, so I'll have to wait until 2008.

Well, you'd better call someone, because you might have missed the window already.
Naw, it should be fine. The deadline here is eleven days before the election, which should be the 27th or so.

As for me, I passed 18 almost 20 years ago. I've got a 16 year old daughter.
Well, I was way of... I figured you were turning 18 'cause you said voting would be a "birthday present" for yourself.

I won't be voting. I've got another year to go until I can vote.

Even if I could vote, there isn't much choice when it comes to politicians who actually want to represent. At least in my home state we got one guy in there, Ben Nelson.

Whether I vote depends on if I get my absentee ballot in time. My mail system at school SUCKS.

I'm excited tho. This is my first national election! :D

noooo i wont be voting on the 7th. ill be in aruba then.

ill vote some time the week before.

early voting is a great invention

ill vote democrat for congress even though it wont do me any good. its my sorrow to always live in solidly republican congressional districts. sigh.

ill vote bill richardson for governor though. not that that will matter either, hes running against a man with no chance to win.

If so, how?

*inspired by Celtlund's thread*

If only the US had a Socialist Party.....

Naw, it should be fine. The deadline here is eleven days before the election, which should be the 27th or so.


Well, I was way of... I figured you were turning 18 'cause you said voting would be a "birthday present" for yourself.
It's my birthday present because I'll get to vote against Katherine Harris. It's only a nanogram of the pound of flesh I'd like to extract for her part in dumping Dubya on us in 2000, but I'll take what I can get.

It's my birthday present because I'll get to vote against Katherine Harris. It's only a nanogram of the pound of flesh I'd like to extract for her part in dumping Dubya on us in 2000, but I'll take what I can get.

Having the mindset that the reason you are voting is because you are voting against people you disagree and not voting for people you agree with isn't too great. Voting should be about selecting someone you want in there, not just voting because of "well, he/she's better than the alternative" We should expect people to run who will actually do stuff. Maybe you should run when you're older in order.

I'll be voting for Bill Ritter for Governer of Colorado, most likely. I have hated every single one of Bob Beuprez's policies as a Congressman, and even the GOP Propaganda machine Rocky Mountain News is backing Ritter. While I'd like to vote for the Independent, he doesn't stand much of a chance right now, so I'll have to vote in a practical manner.

For Congressman for this district, since only Bill Winter and Tom Tancredo(note, I may have the Bill's last names mixed up again. This has happened often) are running, that's not even a question. Tom Tancredo is an insane idiot who should never have been voted into office in the first place.

But mostly I'll be voting on referendums and amendments, like the Marijuana possession law, allowing it statewide--an instant yes from me. Referendum I is a domestic partnership law, and although it does include a few concessions I'd not have been willing to make to the religious idiots--such as adoption agencies being allowed to deny adoption based on religious grounds--it's still much closer than anything homosexuals have had yet in Colorado, so that's an instant yes vote as well.

On the instant NO vote side, we've got a new Minimum wage law. My position on this seriously confuses my dad, since I work at Wendy's. Of course, what my dad doesn't understand is that artificial minimum wages only, in the end, change the numbers in the situation: the problem remains.
The other instant no vote is the Colorado amendment to declare marriage as being "One man, one woman." Fuck you, you piece of shit intolorant religious folks. Marriage was not originally a part of religion and I'll be damned if I'm going to let you tell me who I can marry and who I can't.

There are a great many issues, however, I am still undecided on. We shall see how I vote as November 7th approaches.

Having the mindset that the reason you are voting is because you are voting against people you disagree and not voting for people you agree with isn't too great. Voting should be about selecting someone you want in there, not just voting because of "well, he/she's better than the alternative" We should expect people to run who will actually do stuff. Maybe you should run when you're older in order.

Here's the thing. I would absolutely love to be able to vote for someone as opposed to voting against someone, but Katherine Harris is a special case. As soon as this election is past, I'll be on the lookout for a couple of new Senators, though finding good people who can win in Florida is a problem.

On the plus side, I'll be voting for my Representative, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, rather than against anyone, and the same goes for Governor, where I'll be voting for Jim Davis instead of against Charlie Crist.

As for running myself, I'm old enough, but I'll never be able to do it. All politicians have skeletons in their closets. I've got a goddamn cemetary. Just the stuff I've written online in various places (here included) would get me disqualified. Opposition researchers would have a field day on me.

Here's the thing. I would absolutely love to be able to vote for someone as opposed to voting against someone, but Katherine Harris is a special case. As soon as this election is past, I'll be on the lookout for a couple of new Senators, though finding good people who can win in Florida is a problem.

On the plus side, I'll be voting for my Representative, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, rather than against anyone, and the same goes for Governor, where I'll be voting for Jim Davis instead of against Charlie Crist.

As for running myself, I'm old enough, but I'll never be able to do it. All politicians have skeletons in their closets. I've got a goddamn cemetary. Just the stuff I've written online in various places (here included) would get me disqualified. Opposition researchers would have a field day on me.

Honesty is a better policy than hiding everything. People who come out and say what they've done usually can connect with people. By saying you have problems, people can identify with you.

Honesty is a better policy than hiding everything. People who come out and say what they've done usually can connect with people. By saying you have problems, people can identify with you.

Oy, listen to myself, I'm giving someone who disagrees with me on almost everything advice for winning political elections.

Oh, and thanks for clarifying that you are voting for someone.

Honesty is a better policy than hiding everything. People who come out and say what they've done usually can connect with people. By saying you have problems, people can identify with you.
On a personal level you're right, and perhaps even on a political level when faced with a scandal. George Allen got into a lot of trouble when he said he'd never used the n-word, for instance, because it became a gotcha game. He'd have been better off, politically, if he'd said "when I was young, I was stupid, and I've grown." Of course, it would have been better overall if he weren't a racist, but that's neither here nor there.

I'm voting for Steve Kagen over John Gard in the Wisconsin 8th Congressional district. Both candidates are about as charismatic as a piece of wood, but Kagen is a Democrat, so I'm going to do my small part to try and shift the House back to the Dems and get a little accountability back into government.

I'm voting against Democratic Senator Herb Kohl...mostly because Kohl buys his seat every election without actually telling anybody what he plans to do with his new term, and I'd like to see someone new in the Senate who will actually work for their constituents and not his own war-chest. I may vote for Republican candidate Robert Lorge, as he is the only opponent with a chance to win, but more likely I will vote for Independent Ben Glatzel.

I'm voting for incumbent Democratic Governor Jim Doyle over Republican challenger Mark Green, formerly my Congressman. This is because Green is a parrot on the shoulder of the Bush administration and he supports almost all the White House's policies.

As for local races, most are incumbents running unopposed, but I have to vote for a County Sheriff...which sucks, as both the incumbent Republican and challenging Democrat are total fucking idiots.

I will also be voting against a gay-marriage ban amendment to our state constitution. Here's hoping Wisconsin will be the first state to strike down these ridiculous laws! :)

I'm pretty liberal, but my voter registration is messed up, if I get it sorted out, I'll probably vote for the more liberal issues, but I have little knowledge of the candidates. I know which amendments and other issues to vote for or against, though...

On a personal level you're right, and perhaps even on a political level when faced with a scandal. George Allen got into a lot of trouble when he said he'd never used the n-word, for instance, because it became a gotcha game. He'd have been better off, politically, if he'd said "when I was young, I was stupid, and I've grown." Of course, it would have been better overall if he weren't a racist, but that's neither here nor there.

True, true.

The 2 parties talk a different game, but do virtually, if not exactly the same thing once elected. I see no point. All registering to vote would do is qualify me to be pulled off my job and lose wages for several months because of the governments "jury" system.

I'm pretty liberal, but my voter registration is messed up, if I get it sorted out, I'll probably vote for the more liberal issues, but I have little knowledge of the candidates. I know which amendments and other issues to vote for or against, though...

You know why your registration is messed up? Those damn conservatives and their electoral fraud. :p

The Nazz in '08 has a nice ring to it though. :D

The 2 parties talk a different game, but do virtually, if not exactly the same thing once elected. I see no point. All registering to vote would do is qualify me to be pulled off my job and lose wages for several months because of the governments "jury" system.

I agree.

The Nazz in '08 has a nice ring to it though. :D

Yeah. I wouldn't vote for her (I won't be able to anyways, I'd only be 17 :(. )But, I would rather her run on a platform of honesty than anyone else in the Democratic Party, even though I disagree with her on virtually everything.

If so, how?

*inspired by Celtlund's thread*

I will definitely vote. No way I will allow Senator Lieberman, who has been a loyal and invaluable public servant to CT for so long, lose his seat to some one issue amateur candidate.

Also my town has a pretty big initiative which if passed will prevent contractors from building on some beautiful landscapes that must be preserved. I hate it when landscapes are destroyed by contractors while other areas already built up in other towns are neglected and allowed to rot. preserve the natural environments, rejuvinate the urban environments i say.

Yeah. I wouldn't vote for her (I won't be able to anyways, I'd only be 17 :(. )But, I would rather her run on a platform of honesty than anyone else in the Democratic Party, even though I disagree with her on virtually everything.
Him. But thanks for the compliment? ;)

I will definitely vote. No way I will allow Senator Lieberman, who has been a loyal and invaluable public servant to CT for so long, lose his seat to some one issue amateur candidate.

Also my town has a pretty big initiative which if passed will prevent contractors from building on some beautiful landscapes that must be preserved. I hate it when landscapes are destroyed by contractors while other areas already built up in other towns are neglected and allowed to rot. preserve the natural environments, rejuvinate the urban environments i say.

Dude, I don't even live in Connecticut and I know Lamont isn't a one-issue candidate.

As for local races, most are incumbents running unopposed, but I have to vote for a County Sheriff...which sucks, as both the incumbent Republican and challenging Democrat are total fucking idiots.

I will also be voting against a gay-marriage ban amendment to our state constitution. Here's hoping Wisconsin will be the first state to strike down these ridiculous laws! :)
Yes, I have to vote for a Country Sheriff too, which is really a no-brainer for me: Republican Fred Wegener. His courage and skill shown under fire in the most horrible of tragedies to ever strike Park County--the Platte Canyon High School hostage situation--proves that he is most assuredly worthy of continuing his post. Methinks he might get an almost unanimous vote.

And good luck with stopping that damned gay marriage ban in Wisconsin. Hopefully, Wisconsin and Colorado can take that first step together.

Yes, I have to vote for a Country Sheriff too, which is really a no-brainer for me: Republican Fred Wegener. His courage and skill shown under fire in the most horrible of tragedies to ever strike Park County--the Platte Canyon High School hostage situation--proves that he is most assuredly worthy of continuing his post. Methinks he might get an almost unanimous vote.

And good luck with stopping that damned gay marriage ban in Wisconsin. Hopefully, Wisconsin and Colorado can take that first step together.

Here's hoping! :)

Voting will be my birthday present to myself.

Ah, that's right... we share a b-day (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11074160&postcount=8), remember? :D

zomg me too cosmic!!!!

Yes I will. I vote every year. Who I will vote for? Possibly mostly Republicans but third-party candidates might get some of my votes as well.

To all those who won't be voting but who are eligible: here's your chance, if you don't take it, don't bitch, you don't have a right to.

Dude, I don't even live in Connecticut and I know Lamont isn't a one-issue candidate.


uhh, yeah he is. All he ever talks about is the war in Iraq and Withdrawl. All of the ads I have heard are either negative attacks on Lieberman linking him to Bush or attacking him for supporting the war in Iraq. He does not bring up other issues, he contradicts himself often when pressed by the media on other issues and never offers any solutions of his own after he pommels Lieberman for something.

He is a one trick pony.

city council- no, because there is only one person running in my district
State Superintendent- republican
congress- democrat
state house- republican
state senate- republican
lt govenor- democrat
govenor- democrat

was I supposed to like pick one party and vote party line? LOL

uhh, yeah he is. All he ever talks about is the war in Iraq and Withdrawl. All of the ads I have heard are either negative attacks on Lieberman linking him to Bush or attacking him for supporting the war in Iraq. He does not bring up other issues, he contradicts himself often when pressed by the media on other issues and never offers any solutions of his own after he pommels Lieberman for something.

He is a one trick pony.
And Lieberman is worth voting for why? Fact is, whether Lamont is a one trick pony or not, he is right about one thing: Lieberman is practically a Bush lapdog. Surely you've got another candidate you could vote for there other than Lamont or Lieberman.

And Lieberman is worth voting for why? Fact is, whether Lamont is a one trick pony or not, he is right about one thing: Lieberman is practically a Bush lapdog. Surely you've got another candidate you could vote for there other than Lamont or Lieberman.

I already explained why I am voting for Lieberman.

And I am more concerned with voting for Lieberman than against Bush. If you don't like Bush and want to see the fall of anyone who supported him in any way over the years, thanthatis your decision. I prefer to look at the bigger picture and I like Lieberman.

The only other Candidate is the Republican, Scheslinger or something like that...and that person is practically a ghost and can't be found anywhere.

I find it funny how John McCain is praised for being such a maverick Republican, yet Lieberman is demonized, even after years of quality public service, because he dares to follow his conscience as well.

Oh and it also does not hurt that I support Lieberman's vigor when it comes to National Security.

But this was not meant to be a debate thread.

ill vote democrat for congress even though it wont do me any good. its my sorrow to always live in solidly republican congressional districts. sigh.

ill vote bill richardson for governor though. not that that will matter either, hes running against a man with no chance to win.

Isn't it frustrating, voting in a location where the foregone conclusion is that your guy will lose. I've lived my entire life voting in places where the population was overwhelmingly democrat, and I almost feel like my vote doesn't matter in the least. VERY rarely do people I vote for win. I once voted for my mom, and she won... but she was uncontested. I once voted for Mickey Mouse, and he got four votes... which turned out to be, without prior arrangement, my brother, my sister, my dad and me. It was a local race, and it turned out to be about half a percent of the people voting for Mickey Mouse! The guy running was uncontested, but such a creep I felt obliged to protest vote. Oi....

It's my birthday present because I'll get to vote against Katherine Harris. It's only a nanogram of the pound of flesh I'd like to extract for her part in dumping Dubya on us in 2000, but I'll take what I can get.I'd love a chance to vote against her, but alas, I no longer live in Florida. I do, however, get a chance to vote against Coburn. It probably won't do any good. The idiots in this state will just reelect him. His last campaign he suggested we shoot abortion providers.

I wont be voting.

If I was able to, I'd vote for Sir Francis Bacon. He'd be a kickass president.

I will definitely vote. No way I will allow Senator Lieberman, who has been a loyal and invaluable public servant to CT for so long, lose his seat to some one issue amateur candidate.

Also my town has a pretty big initiative which if passed will prevent contractors from building on some beautiful landscapes that must be preserved. I hate it when landscapes are destroyed by contractors while other areas already built up in other towns are neglected and allowed to rot. preserve the natural environments, rejuvinate the urban environments i say.I don't care what party he claims to represent, he's a conservative and wouldn't get my vote. On the other hand, if I lived in Arizona, I could see myself voting McCain.

Nope. I will be voting no later than October 28th. Assuming I get my ballot this year.

I don't care what party he claims to represent, he's a conservative and wouldn't get my vote. On the other hand, if I lived in Arizona, I could see myself voting McCain.Strange thing is that if going against your party is what gets you maverick status, then Lieberman is ten times the maverick McCain is. McCain's just got better press people--he always winds up toeing the party line.

Strange thing is that if going against your party is what gets you maverick status, then Lieberman is ten times the maverick McCain is. McCain's just got better press people--he always winds up toeing the party line.I don't care if their a maverick or not. I happen to agree with McCain more often than Leiberman.

And Lieberman is worth voting for why? Fact is, whether Lamont is a one trick pony or not, he is right about one thing: Lieberman is practically a Bush lapdog. Surely you've got another candidate you could vote for there other than Lamont or Lieberman.

Ah, yes. A Bush lapdog that votes with the Democratic Party 90 percent of the time.

WASHINGTON — Since winning re-election in 2000, U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman has been a more dependable Democratic vote than during his two prior terms.
When Democrats and Republicans disagreed, Lieberman voted 90.5 percent of the time with his colleagues in roll call votes cast during his third term.

He sided with the majority of Democrats over Republicans only 78.9 percent of the time over the previous 10 years.

Lieberman receives a ranking of 76.4 percent from ProgressivePunch, a nonpartisan searchable database of Congressional voting records from a liberal perspective. The score, however, was deflated because of votes missed while Lieberman was running for president in 2003. He scored 85.5 percent among the 414 votes evaluated in which he actually voted. Dodd scores 87.2 percent from the liberal group.

http://www.connpost.com/news/ci_4116528

I will definitely vote. No way I will allow Senator Lieberman, who has been a loyal and invaluable public servant to CT for so long, lose his seat to some one issue amateur candidate.

Also my town has a pretty big initiative which if passed will prevent contractors from building on some beautiful landscapes that must be preserved. I hate it when landscapes are destroyed by contractors while other areas already built up in other towns are neglected and allowed to rot. preserve the natural environments, rejuvinate the urban environments i say.

Agreed, Joe gets my vote (again, as he did in 2000). He's been a very positive force for Connecticut, and it really pisses me off that the shrill anti-war members of the Democratic party would work to off the guy who just 6 years ago was their VP candidate.

Ah, yes. A Bush lapdog that votes with the Democratic Party 90 percent of the time.

It's never been his voting record overall. It's been his voting record on important issues--the Iraq War and cloture for Sam Alito, among others--and his willingness to get on Fox News and throw other Democrats under the bus in the name of bipartisanship. Fuck, man, he won't even call for Hastert to step down as Speaker when Chris Shays, a Connecticut Republican, is calling for precisely that.

Agreed, Joe gets my vote (again, as he did in 2000). He's been a very positive force for Connecticut, and it really pisses me off that the shrill anti-war members of the Democratic party would work to off the guy who just 6 years ago was their VP candidate.

I really wish people would stop referring to Joe Lieberman as "our VP candidate." No voter had a choice in the matter. He was Gore's VP candidate, and the DLC's, but he wasn't mine. If we'd nominated him like we had Gore, that might be an argument, but he wasn't, so it's crap.

It's never been his voting record overall. It's been his voting record on important issues--the Iraq War and cloture for Sam Alito, among others--and his willingness to get on Fox News and throw other Democrats under the bus in the name of bipartisanship. Fuck, man, he won't even call for Hastert to step down as Speaker when Chris Shays, a Connecticut Republican, is calling for precisely that.

So if you agree that Joe votes Democrat, then Lamont is a one trick pony: all he has is Iraq withdrawl mania. If you've seen/heard the TV or radio ads here, you'd agree.

Alito? That's a non-starter! Even if they *tried*, they didn't have the votes.

And why should Joe call for Hastert to step down? It's not most of the DEMs are giving him any help these days.

This is why the DEMs keep losing: it's not that there isn't a big tent: it's that there is NO tent. Either you're in Nancy Pelosi's tent, or the Clinton tent, or the moderate tent (ie: Joe), or the (shudder!) Deaniac tent, etc.

I really wish people would stop referring to Joe Lieberman as "our VP candidate." No voter had a choice in the matter. He was Gore's VP candidate, and the DLC's, but he wasn't mine. If we'd nominated him like we had Gore, that might be an argument, but he wasn't, so it's crap.

Smeg off. He was most certainly my VP candidate.

Smeg off. He was most certainly my VP candidate.

Really? You were in the "smoke-filled room" when he was selected to be Gore's #2 guy? How very important of you.

As for Lamont being a one-trick pony, well, here you go (http://nedlamont.com/issues). Let's see--what's on that list to the right?
Energy Independence and the Environment
Situation in the Middle East
The War in Iraq
Real Security in a Dangerous World (Speech)
Jobs
Education
Full Education Proposal
Health Care
Full Health Care Proposal
Darfur
Veterans
Infrastructure
Civil Liberties
Reproductive Freedom
Equal Rights
Marriage Equality & LGBT Issues
Immigration
One trick, my ass. Look, if you live in CT, then you get to make your choice, and by all means choose the candidate you like the best. But don't play bullshit games.

I'm going to vote,btu not yet decided how. Will most likely vote for the Democrate when it comes the house, although I want to look into him a bit more first. As for senate I don't have a clue I'm stuck choosing between the most conservative Democrate in the senate and a conservative Republican, I honnestly don't want either of them, but I haven't heard anything about any third party canidates so I'll most likely vote for the Dem just to give them the extra seat, well let them keep the seat.

I will definitely vote. No way I will allow Senator Lieberman, who has been a loyal and invaluable public servant to CT for so long, lose his seat to some one issue amateur candidate.

Also my town has a pretty big initiative which if passed will prevent contractors from building on some beautiful landscapes that must be preserved. I hate it when landscapes are destroyed by contractors while other areas already built up in other towns are neglected and allowed to rot. preserve the natural environments, rejuvinate the urban environments i say.
just curious, where do you live in CT? (don't answer if you don't want...just being curious about my fellow connecticutanians)
Dude, I don't even live in Connecticut and I know Lamont isn't a one-issue candidate.Yeah. He has stances on other issues. And his stances (beyond the war in Iraq) are the same as Lieberman. Add to that the fact that Lieberman has been in the senate for 18 years, and is a top democrat...you don't just throw that stuff out because you disagree with the war. Lamont has not publicised a single stance outside of Iraq and "I'm not Joe". I don't support the war, and am truly torn on who I am going to vote for...I'm pretty pissed at both right now. But Lamont is not particularly different from Lieberman, and has posed himself as a one issue guy.

And Lieberman is worth voting for why? Fact is, whether Lamont is a one trick pony or not, he is right about one thing: Lieberman is practically a Bush lapdog. Surely you've got another candidate you could vote for there other than Lamont or Lieberman.Yeah. The Republican guy, who has no shot in hell at winning, and I would never vote for, even if you paid me. Lieberman is hardly a Bush lapdog, although, from your comments, I can bet you aren't from CT.

Really? You were in the "smoke-filled room" when he was selected to be Gore's #2 guy? How very important of you.

As for Lamont being a one-trick pony, well, here you go (http://nedlamont.com/issues). Let's see--what's on that list to the right?

One trick, my ass. Look, if you live in CT, then you get to make your choice, and by all means choose the candidate you like the best. But don't play bullshit games.

I personally don't claim that he doesn't have stances on other issues. My problem is that his stances are essentially the same (or very similar) to Liebermans. It comes down to which is more important: Pulling out from Iraq now (and yes, that is the only issue Lamont has spoken about to the people of CT. That, and how Lieberman is a Bush lapdog) or having a top democrat senator who has been there for 18 years and has proven that he knows how to benefit his state. Honestly, I'm pretty stuck as to which is more important to me.

I personally don't claim that he doesn't have stances on other issues. My problem is that his stances are essentially the same (or very similar) to Liebermans. It comes down to which is more important: Pulling out from Iraq now (and yes, that is the only issue Lamont has spoken about to the people of CT. That, and how Lieberman is a Bush lapdog) or having a top democrat senator who has been there for 18 years and has proven that he knows how to benefit his state. Honestly, I'm pretty stuck as to which is more important to me.

Do you think Lieberman will stay a Democrat if he wins? Just out of curiosity. Because he'll have to pull a whole lot of Republicans to win, and he may feel he owes them something.

Do you think Lieberman will stay a Democrat if he wins? Just out of curiosity. Because he'll have to pull a whole lot of Republicans to win, and he may feel he owes them something.

Honestly, I couldn't care less if he is Democrat, Republican, or Independent.

That is my biggest issue with Lamont. His recent ad talks about how Lieberman turned his back on the party. I honestly don't care about the party. I want him to represent the best interests of the state. Lieberman has helped the state hugely.

I'll finish this in a sec...gotta go do moms bday.

Honestly, I couldn't care less if he is Democrat, Republican, or Independent.

That is my biggest issue with Lamont. His recent ad talks about how Lieberman turned his back on the party. I honestly don't care about the party. I want him to represent the best interests of the state. Lieberman has helped the state hugely.

I'll finish this in a sec...gotta go do moms bday.

Fair enough.

Definitely voting, for Arnold Schwarzenegger.

And I agree with Sarkhaan.

Really? You were in the "smoke-filled room" when he was selected to be Gore's #2 guy? How very important of you.

No, I live in Connecticut. He WAS MY VP canidate. QED.

As for Lamont being a one-trick pony, well, here you go (http://nedlamont.com/issues). Let's see--what's on that list to the right?

Hmm:
Energy Independence and the Environment - Same as Joe. And what does he expect, Bush to chose 9th Circuit judges for the Court? :rolleyes:
Also uses the bogus "per capita the US uses too much energy" arguement. (Bogus because the US actually uses LESS energy than its share of planetary GDP. Using this logic, India should get 1/5th of all the world's energy. Huh? Just because your ethnic group is good at fornication???)

Situation in the Middle East - Iraq, as a seperate line issue.

The War in Iraq - His one real issue.

Real Security in a Dangerous World (Speech) - :confused: This is a link to a speech of his!

Jobs - Same as Joe. Also a no-brainer.

Education - Throw even more money at the problem. BS. My town budget is already 74% to the Board of Ed, and test scores have been stagnet for 20 years. Also works IRAQ into this.

Full Education Proposal - A PDF that doesn't come up. Given this & Real Security in a Dangerous World (Speech), I don't think you actually read his platform.

Health Care - A backdoor to re-establishing the onerous welfare system that President Clinton finally got off of us. AND YET MORE IRAQ.

Full Health Care Proposal - SHOULD NEVER EXIST, AND EVEN MORE IRAQ.

Darfur - Supports Bush. Cute.

Veterans - Pleading for immediate withdrawl while at the same time calling for better gear and a patriotic greeting when they come home is disengenious.

Infrastructure - EDUCATION IS NOT INFRASTRUCTURE. AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT INFRASTRUCTURE. Jab for New Orleans, though the levies were built over decades. The rest is very vague.

Civil Liberties - Fine.

Reproductive Freedom - Pro choice, no surprise and the same as Joe. Also against state's rights, since he believes that he knows better than what the citizens of South Dakota want for themselves!

Equal Rights - Already exists, non-issue. However, his inclusion of teaching creationism is actually *against* equal rights. :rolleyes:

Marriage Equality & LGBT Issues - Should not be an issue.

Immigration - Idiocy. "We need to monitor, but not build a fence". BS! At least he has the right idea re: what to do about the illegals already here.

One trick, my ass. Look, if you live in CT, then you get to make your choice, and by all means choose the candidate you like the best. But don't play bullshit games.

Yep, I will. And that's Joe, not electing a Hilary Clinton yes man that IS a one-trick pony.

My vote isn't going to make a difference, so I'm not going to vote; it's completely pointless and a meaningless waste of time. However, if I did vote, all my votes would go to the Republican candidates.

I damn well better vote, after the way I've been carrying on. Put my money where my mouth is for a change. :D

I always vote in national elections. Haven't missed one in 20 years. I'll vote solid Democrat across the board this year. I'm in Massachusetts, so that means I'll be voting for a bunch of crooked, lying bastards, but they actually are better than the Massachusetts Republicans, who are positively evil.

There will probably be a bunch of referenda on the ballot, too, and I will probably vote against all of them after a first read at the poll. If they are not the rightwing "culture war" bullshit we've been getting hit with lately, then they'll be the usual crooked Massachusetts pork.

I shall not be voting on November 7th, instead, I shall be voting before said date, because I have applied for an absentee ballot.

I'll be voting for Strickland for Governor, Regula for Congressman, for issues 3 and 4, and against issue 5.

I'll vote, if I'm really bored and have nothing better to do.

I will vote and I vote independent … as such with most of the local and state and beyond candidates this time around I will be leaning democrat

Not across the board but they have put up a good run locally

I'm still going to be 17 on November 7th. GAH!

I would vote, but there's this stipulation in the Constitution about people younger than 18 not being able to vote... *sigh*

Haven't missed an election since 1970.

I am indepedent(decline to state) but I am leaning towards democrats......

No, too young, but in my district the Democratic primaries basically decide everything important.

Fair enough.

k...sorry about that. Continuing the other post...

Honestly, I couldn't care less if he is Democrat, Republican, or Independent.

That is my biggest issue with Lamont. His recent ad talks about how Lieberman turned his back on the party. I honestly don't care about the party. I want him to represent the best interests of the state. Lieberman has helped the state hugely.

Lieberman has brought enormous contracts to many companies, most notably General Electric and United Technologies. The most important of these are the contracts to UTC, more specifically, Sikorsky Helicopters. These are made in my state, and employ a majority of my family directly. Electric Boat and the Groton Sub base are still existant thanks to Lieberman and Dodd, both of which are vital to that region of the state.

Connecticut enjoys one of the best economies in the US currently, and that is in no small part due to those we have working in the federal government (particularly, Lieberman and Dodd). Both are well respected and powerful senators. What is most important to me in my senators is that they are concerned about the state. I want things to benefit the US as a whole, yes. But it is more important to me that my friends and family can find jobs that pay well. It is important to me that Hartford, New Haven, New London, and Bridgeport are raised out of the current state of affairs.

Lamont accuses Lieberman of turning his back on the Democratic party. He makes it abundantly clear that he will vote for things because the party says so. That isn't always helpful or beneficial. I want someone who looks at the issue, and considers how it will benefit both the US and Connecticut. I know Lieberman has done this in the past, and will continue to do so. Have I agreed with everything he has done? No. No question that I am pissed that he voted for the war. And I have made that clear to him when I last spoke with him.

I don't care if he turns his back on his party. What I do care about is if he turns his back on Connecticut. The mark of a good senator isn't someone who cares about the party. It is the person who cares about his people. Connecticut, while being strongly democrat in national elections, tends to be republican in local and state elections. Lieberman represents the interests of most of Connecticut pretty well.

I always vote, though usually only in the federal races. Since I live overseas, I don't feel I can make an informed decision on state political issues.

I will be voting in Ohio...we have races for Governor, Senator, and Congresswoman as well as some local races that don't seem to be advertising too much. I will likely vote a straight Democratic ticket, though Deborah Pryce AND Mary Jo Kilroy both seem to be as unelectable as the other and, thanks to the fact that the Kilroy campaign won't leave me alone, may drive me to vote third-party.

So if you agree that Joe votes Democrat, then Lamont is a one trick pony: all he has is Iraq withdrawl mania. If you've seen/heard the TV or radio ads here, you'd agree.

Alito? That's a non-starter! Even if they *tried*, they didn't have the votes.

And why should Joe call for Hastert to step down? It's not most of the DEMs are giving him any help these days.

This is why the DEMs keep losing: it's not that there isn't a big tent: it's that there is NO tent. Either you're in Nancy Pelosi's tent, or the Clinton tent, or the moderate tent (ie: Joe), or the (shudder!) Deaniac tent, etc.

I don't even think Bill Clinton could win a Democratic party primary if he ran for the first time today. Even his wife is being attacked by the left for not being liberal enough and she is much more liberal than his pro-tax cut, pro welfare reform, pro free trade and pro american military intervensionist foreign policies.

The republicans lost their way when it comes to fiscal responsibility and restraint but the democrats are being hijacked by the moveon.orgs of the country. Many say the Christian Right controls the Republicans but this is only true to an extent; they may have great influence but they would support Rudy Giuliani for President even though he is unabashedly pro-choice and a Catholic.

Voting will be my birthday present to myself.

Ah, that's right... we share a b-day (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11074160&postcount=8), remember? :D

Good birthday! Camus, Billy Graham, Al Hirt, Joan Sutherland, Mary Travers, Joni Mitchell, and you guys. :D

... The republicans lost their way when it comes to fiscal responsibility and restraint but the democrats are being hijacked by the moveon.orgs of the country. Many say the Christian Right controls the Republicans but this is only true to an extent; they may have great influence but they would support Rudy Giuliani for President even though he is unabashedly pro-choice and a Catholic.

Giuliani won't get out of the primaries alive. Someone will do to him what George Bush's campaign did to John McCain back in 2000 (remember? being a prisoner of war in Vietnam doesn't qualify you to be President but blowing off the National Guard does). I see Frist / Santorum in '08. And if that happens, me and the Nazz could beat them, no problem.

I don't even think Bill Clinton could win a Democratic party primary if he ran for the first time today. Even his wife is being attacked by the left for not being liberal enough and she is much more liberal than his pro-tax cut, pro welfare reform, pro free trade and pro american military intervensionist foreign policies.

The republicans lost their way when it comes to fiscal responsibility and restraint but the democrats are being hijacked by the moveon.orgs of the country. Many say the Christian Right controls the Republicans but this is only true to an extent; they may have great influence but they would support Rudy Giuliani for President even though he is unabashedly pro-choice and a Catholic.

Why, should his being Catholic alienate the Christian Right, there are Catholics on the Christian Right.

Giuliani won't get out of the primaries alive. Someone will do to him what George Bush's campaign did to John McCain back in 2000 (remember? being a prisoner of war in Vietnam doesn't qualify you to be President but blowing off the National Guard does). I see Frist / Santorum in '08. And if that happens, me and the Nazz could beat them, no problem.

Donald and Daffy Duck could beat those two.

Negative ads aside, The republicans have some powerful candidates lined up for '08. Warner is obviously done...he may actually lose his senate seat.

But McCain, Giuliani and to a lesser extent Romney are all strong candidates. I personally am excited about McCain though Giuliani would be great too.

The Democrats, imo, would be smart to convince Bill Richardson to run. They will lose if they run Gore, Kerry or Clinton. Gore has a better shot than the latter two.

'08 will be an interesting year for sure. Hopefully we won't be suffering from a nuclear holocaust in asia by then.

Donald and Daffy Duck could beat those two.

Negative ads aside, The republicans have some powerful candidates lined up for '08. Warner is obviously done...he may actually lose his senate seat.

But McCain, Giuliani and to a lesser extent Romney are all strong candidates. I personally am excited about McCain though Giuliani would be great too.

The Democrats, imo, would be smart to convince Bill Richardson to run. They will lose if they run Gore, Kerry or Clinton. Gore has a better shot than the latter two.

'08 will be an interesting year for sure. Hopefully we won't be suffering from a nuclear holocaust in asia by then.

I could probably vote for McCain or Giuliani (or McCain and Giuliani) if they didn't have the Republican Party behind them, people like Hastert, Santorum, Brownback, Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld. Not to mention James Dobson and his ilk. I do agree that the Democrats have to run a governor, not a damn Senator and not Al Gore. The last Senator who got elected was John Kennedy (LBJ doesn't count and besides, he owned the government by the 60's).

Donald and Daffy Duck could beat those two.

Negative ads aside, The republicans have some powerful candidates lined up for '08. Warner is obviously done...he may actually lose his senate seat.

But McCain, Giuliani and to a lesser extent Romney are all strong candidates. I personally am excited about McCain though Giuliani would be great too.

The Democrats, imo, would be smart to convince Bill Richardson to run. They will lose if they run Gore, Kerry or Clinton. Gore has a better shot than the latter two.

'08 will be an interesting year for sure. Hopefully we won't be suffering from a nuclear holocaust in asia by then.
Romney is weakened by charges of corruption from his deals with the IOC to get the Olympics into Salt Lake City. He would also face attacks from his lousy performance as governor of Massachusetts.

McCain/Guiliani would be the best possible ticket the Republicans could put together, I think, but I would still vote Democrat because of the party machinery behind them. Twelve years ago, I might have voted for them, but not now.

California straight-ticket Republican voter :cool:

I know some of you are surprised by that :D

And against most bonds and most propositions, especially that idiotic oil tax Prop. 87. Yes on 85, though.

If so, how?

*inspired by Celtlund's thread*

how? simple, i will stand in line and go over the voting instructions carefully. then when I enter that booth, I will again, re-read the instructions... marking my choices in the manner instructed.

then I will turn in my ballot to be counted.


That's How I will vote. :D

Negative ads aside, The republicans have some powerful candidates lined up for '08. Warner is obviously done...he may actually lose his senate seat.

I think you mean George Felix "Macaca" Allen, and if there's ever been a person happy to see Mark Foley, it's him. But you're right--even if he holds onto that seat, he's toast in '08.

And don't forget Jeb! He'll be free for the next two years to start campaigning to follow his brother, although if I were him, I'd hope for a Democratic win in '08 and start a challenge for '12.

As for the Dems, the field is wide open right now. If you're looking for a Dem governor, though, there's also Mark Warner of Virginia (which may have been the Warner you were thinking of). He finished his term last year, got his Lt. Gov. elected to follow him, and will have the next 2 years free as well. If he can get Webb over Allen this year, he'll be a player in 2008.

I think you mean George Felix "Macaca" Allen, and if there's ever been a person happy to see Mark Foley, it's him. But you're right--even if he holds onto that seat, he's toast in '08.

And don't forget Jeb! He'll be free for the next two years to start campaigning to follow his brother, although if I were him, I'd hope for a Democratic win in '08 and start a challenge for '12.

As for the Dems, the field is wide open right now. If you're looking for a Dem governor, though, there's also Mark Warner of Virginia (which may have been the Warner you were thinking of). He finished his term last year, got his Lt. Gov. elected to follow him, and will have the next 2 years free as well. If he can get Webb over Allen this year, he'll be a player in 2008.

doh! I always make that mistake. Yes i confused Warner with Allen. Warner would actually be a very strong candidate for the Democrats but i think is conservatism will hold him back in the primaries. Bill Richardson on the other hand could have a very real chance to win the nomination.

i really have to stop confusing those two.

oh and as for Jeb, he would be best to sit this one out. Bush fatigue is going to spread like a disease, even among conservatives. plus there is that whole "dynasty" issue. It would do him best to wait until 2012 if a democrat is elected in '08 and 2016 if a republican is elected. Jeb would be a formidable candidate though, no matter what people might think. After his first speech people will say..."my god, this one can talk!"

oh and as for Jeb, he would be best to sit this one out. Bush fatigue is going to spread like a disease, even among conservatives. plus there is that whole "dynasty" issue. It would do him best to wait until 2012 if a democrat is elected in '08 and 2016 if a republican is elected. Jeb would be a formidable candidate though, no matter what people might think. After his first speech people will say..."my god, this one can talk!"
Yeah, Dubya has really poisoned the well for Jeb! (Sorry--that's what all his signs down here in FL say.) Personally, Jeb! scares me, because he actually knows what he's talking about and yet his policies aren't so different from his brother's. I'd never vote for him, but I'll give him this much--he's capable. He's a sack of shit, but he's a capable administrator.

Yeah, Dubya has really poisoned the well for Jeb! (Sorry--that's what all his signs down here in FL say.) Personally, Jeb! scares me, because he actually knows what he's talking about and yet his policies aren't so different from his brother's. I'd never vote for him, but I'll give him this much--he's capable. He's a sack of shit, but he's a capable administrator.

I agree, and I very much wish that I could vote this year.

We might be a Nov 2cnd State but I am so looking forward to it.

I want to see Santorum driven into obscurity ...he..... more than Foley even..... represents all the things I dislike about the repulican party .

I hope this election sends a message to the idiots on both sides of the game.

But I dont see too big a shift in seats....but I feel the dems will pick up some and deservingly so..if you look at the idividual and NOT the party.

If It was just me and my vote standing between Democratic controll or Rick Santorum...the Dems got controll.

how? simple, i will stand in line and go over the voting instructions carefully. then when I enter that booth, I will again, re-read the instructions... marking my choices in the manner instructed.

then I will turn in my ballot to be counted.


That's How I will vote. :D

Thank you! I was waiting for someone to interpret my question correctly... :p