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The current prison population in England and Wales is about 80,000.

Do you think that this is too low or too high?

How many people do you think should be in prison?

I suppose the ideal figure would be 0 because noone would do anything wrong and we'd all happy living on a rainbow.

The current prison population in England and Wales is about 80,000.

Do you think that this is too low or too high?

How many people do you think should be in prison?

What kind of question is that?

How many people do you think should be in prison?

Seven. All four members of Coldplay, their manager, their soundman and their producer.

The current prison population in England and Wales is about 80,000.

Do you think that this is too low or too high?

How many people do you think should be in prison?

Are you asking how many people should be gaoled in England and Wales, or in the UK?

Are you asking how many people should be gaoled in England and Wales, or in the UK?

England and Wales only.

The question dosen't make any sense. How can anyone dictate how many people should be prison?

England and Wales only.

Then why is the thread entitled...?

How many people should be in prison in the UK?

The number of people convicted of crimes punishable by prison sentences who have not yet completed their sentence. However small or large that number is.

Then why is the thread entitled...?

People would get confused if it said England and Wales in the title. Only when they read my first post they would understand that England and Wales have a separate justice system.

The prison population should be such that it doesn't stretch the resources allocated for the various purposes associated with managing it. As such it is too high (or the resources allocated is too low). Britain has the highest rate of imprisonment in Europe (approximately 0.14% of the population is in jail), so again it's apparently too high. But I'm not going to give an arbitrary figure as to what I think is an acceptable number of people to have imprisoned in this country.

The whole lot of you are evil sinners and all of you deserve jail.

...er, sorry. Itchy mouse finger.

Seven. All four members of Coldplay, their manager, their soundman and their producer.

LOL

The whole lot of you are evil sinners and all of you deserve jail.

...er, sorry. Itchy mouse finger.
Maybe we'll just send all of our convicts to Australia, like we used to. :p

I say screw prison and start shipping them over to Austrailia again.

I say screw prison and start shipping them over to Austrailia again.

That'll make people want to commit crimes for some sun, sea and sand





I'm all for it :)

People would get confused if it said England and Wales in the title. Only when they read my first post they would understand that England and Wales have a separate justice system.

So, even the poll question 'How many people should be in prison in the UK' doesn't actually mean 'How many people should be in prison in the UK'?

I think everybody should spend six months of their life in prison. It would add to their experiences. :)

Maybe we'll just send all of our convicts to Australia, like we used to. :p

Excellent. I cu'd use me a bri-ish slave, wot?

Excellent. I cu'd use me a bri-ish slave, wot?
Bearing in mind you'll get the surly low-lifes who generally end up in enforced incarceration at Her Majesty's Pleasure, you probably wouldn't want one.

Excellent. I cu'd use me a bri-ish slave, wot?

Yup. Sign me up for a couple too.

im going to go with most other people on this thread.

huh? :confused:

Bearing in mind you'll get the surly low-lifes who generally end up in enforced incarceration at Her Majesty's Pleasure, you probably wouldn't want one.

All the better to amuse me in gladiatorial duels, my dear Stalin. *pats*

All the better to amuse me in gladiatorial duels, my dear Stalin. *pats*

I always knew Australia was a bloodthirsty country. Couldn't fool me with the soap operas and surfing

I always knew Australia was a bloodthirsty country. Couldn't fool me with the soap operas and surfing

We do what now? *drinks vodka from the skull of an englishman*

The number should be proportional to the number of political dissenters there are.

All the better to amuse me in gladiatorial duels, my dear Stalin. *pats*
I can just imagine you as a Roman emperor, sitting in an overly ornate chair while presiding over the circus. On the other hand, I can't imagine you patting me again without losing a hand. ;)

I can just imagine you as a Roman emperor, sitting in an overly ornate chair while presiding over the circus. On the other hand, I can't imagine you patting me again without losing a hand. ;)

What are you going to do, bite it off? Pfeh, none of you lot have any teeth.

The number should be proportional to the number of political dissenters there are.

Inversely? directly? or some other weird proportion?

What are you going to do, bite it off? Pfeh, none of you lot have any teeth.
Gotta love them stereotypes. Bearing in mind I'm 21 and unemployed, the stereotype of my demographic is that we're all knife-wielding hoodlums. So I'd cut it off. http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb182.gif

Gotta love them stereotypes.

Heheh. :p

Bearing in mind I'm 21 and unemployed, the stereotype of my demographic is that we're all knife-wielding hoodlums. So I'd cut it off. http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb182.gif

*dodges*

The number should be proportional to the number of political dissenters there are.

LOL!

Oh, wait. You're probably being serious

As many as society needs to be protected from, I suppose...

Myrth.

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Oh, wait. You're probably being serious

It is a well-established fact that increased political dissent is a contributing factor to increased crime, all other things being equal.

It is a well-established fact that increased political dissent is a contributing factor to increased crime, all other things being equal.

By "well established" do you mean you 'made it up'?

It is a well-established fact that increased political dissent is a contributing factor to increased crime, all other things being equal.

Well then we must ensure that crime continues to exist in order to protect political dessent.

646 (http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/alms.cfm).
Yeah, I know he said "England and Wales" in the thread, but I can't be fucked to not care any less.

It is a well-established fact that increased political dissent is a contributing factor to increased crime, all other things being equal.

This warbler is strongly migratory and the entire population winters in southeast Asia. It therefore has one of the longest migrations of any Old World warbler.

How many people do you think should be in prison?
Do we get to choose who? I'm sure we'd have a much nicer country if we made 400,000 Daily Mail readers share cells with some psychopaths. :-)

By "well established" do you mean you 'made it up'?

No. As frustration mounts over perceived injustices committed by your government, you become more prone to rash decisions. There is a correlation between this and the crime rate.

Maybe it could be like when Patrick McGoohan gets back to London to find the whole world has become the Village... everybody could be in jail, be given numbers and occasionally asked to report to the Blue Dome...

I say screw prison and start shipping them over to Austrailia again.

Don't laugh, Australia is still vastly underpopulated. So are Canada and New Zealand.

I propose we move rename New Zealand to Israel, move the Jews, and declare peace in the Middle East. Let all disaffected Kiwis have a free move to Australia or Canada. :D

There. We just solved the British prison problem, found a way to peace in the middle east, and Australia's underpopulation problem in two simple steps!

Maybe we'll just send all of our convicts to Australia, like we used to. :p

don't be so cruel!

I think 0 because rehabilitation is the future!

All of them. Being British should be a crime.

All of them. Being British should be a crime.
Dissenting Commonwealth members should be strung up, though :p

Dissenting Commonwealth members should be strung up, though :p

Well, Canada wouldn't hate the UK if it didn't screw us over in the Alaska Panhandle Dispute.

What is the total population of England & Wales? :p

Wot a strange questin? Umm I guess as many as derserve to be there? Other than that lets say 1234,001/2?

However many have broken the law...duh.

All of 'em.

Maybe we'll just send all of our convicts to Australia, like we used to. :p

Excellent idea, they still have plenty of room, don't they? I think the US state of Georgia was originally a penal colony, too, I'm sure they'd welcome a few more citizens.

Don't laugh, Australia is still vastly underpopulated.

I'm sure it is by East Asian standards, but most of the land isn't really suitable for any sort of large-scale settlement.

I'm sure it is by East Asian standards, but most of the land isn't really suitable for any sort of large-scale settlement.

Aahhh but you speak only of the above ground cities now don't ye!

The problem is that the British prison system is vastly overcrowded and the population is increasing at a rate that the prison service cannot keep up with.

The prison population in 1986 was 52,000

Now its 87,000

We need to redefine what passes for a crime in which a prison sentence is needed. We need to do this because there are people who need to be imprisoned for the good of society but at the moment these people are only serving a fraction of their sentence due to over crowding

This topic is stupid. You don't decide how many people are in jail. If they commit crimes, they go to jail. In theory, there could be one, a million or no people at all in jail.

Execute 'em on a first offence. Nobody in prison! Problem solved!

I'm sure it is by East Asian standards, but most of the land isn't really suitable for any sort of large-scale settlement.

Have you seen *Israel*? Yet people have been fighting for a strip of desert for several thousand years.

Excellent idea, they still have plenty of room, don't they? I think the US state of Georgia was originally a penal colony, too, I'm sure they'd welcome a few more citizens.



hahaha penal.

if we shot all the chavs then we wouldnt really need prisons.