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If you were elected as Prime Minister of the UK

New Populistania
07-10-2006, 22:43
If I was elected as Prime Minister of the UK, I would make the following policy changes on the following issues

Crime & Criminal Law
-200,000 extra prison places, and reservations made for maximum prison population of 300,000, with other 10,000 places provided by private prisons
-Devolve prison service into prisons and local jails, with local jails managed in counties and boroughs by local police departments
-"Life" to mean at least 20 years, with 30 years as a general standard for homicide offences before guilty plea or parole taken into account
-Parole/Early release to be limited to persons having served at least 75% of their sentence or at least 20 years of a life sentence
-Time off for guilty plea to involve no more than a 25% reduction in the given sentence
-“Three Strikes” for all serious and violent offences, with life sentence of minimum of 20 years on the third offence
-Devolve police service to counties and boroughs, with regional bodies as secondary overseers
-Abolish home office and devolve its responsibilities to a New Department of Corrections and a new Ministry of Justice
-Abolish age of criminal responsibility and have all offenders tried in adult courts regardless of age
-House of Lords to be fully comprised of elected representatives, rather than by appointed legal prosecutors
-Establishment of a national justice records office with summaries of criminal trials in listed chronological order to be published annually in a catalogue, copies of which will be sold to and vied by the public
-Repeal current legislation on ownership of personal firearms and introduce legislation requiring criminal background check for firearm purchase and registration
-Create regional prison authorities to oversee management of prisons with national HM prisons inspectorate carrying out inspections three times annually with a different inspector of each of the three occasions

Civil Law
- 20-week post-conception limit for on-demand abortions, with partial birth abortion legal if permission is given by senior doctor and overseen by lawyer and civil magistrate
-Three-year minimum time for divorce appeals and child entitlement lawsuits on decision of divorce being acknowledged to a civil court
-Same-sex civil unions to be legally recognised by government, with local church communities given legal discretion on issue

Labor & Employment Law
-Increase minimum wage to £6.50 per hour with further annual increases linked to increases in average earnings
-Double minimum wage entitlement for time worked over 40-hour maximum working week
-Any persons considered by employer for redundancy must be given minimum 6-month redundancy notice

Immigration & National Security
-No ID cards or national database
-Restore local discretion for enforcement of immigration law and set up a national register of all persons submitting personal recognition through passport control, and registering for entitlements through formal employment law
-No national service, except for a mandatory draft that can be set up by a temporary wartime cabinet in times of extreme national treat

Economy & Taxation
- Mandatorum on balanced budget over 10 or 11 year economic period allowing for economic fluctuations over period
- "Golden rule" to apply over full 10 or 11 year economic cycle rather than just 6-8 years
- Income tax not to rise above 50% by constitutional requirements
- Abolish inheritance tax
- Lower & fix rate of VAT at 15%, with exceptions on food and children's clothes
- £10,000 person allowance, with 25% tax on all other earnings up to £200,000
- 50% tax on all earnings over £200,000 a year

Welfare & Social Security
-Link between pensions and average earnings to be restored
-All persons over 68 years of age to be entitled to pension regardless of employment
-Couples will receive same pension as if they were living independently, and so would receive a double pension rather than a reduced pension for couples
-Abolish child benefit for persons under age of 21 and introduce a family insurance scheme in case of loss of parent or if a child is placed in custody of other person in the case of a divorce lawsuit
-Abolish unemployment benefit and job-seekers allowance and replace them with an unemployment insurance scheme with mandatory requirement of three years employment to apply for registration on scheme

Education
-Replace A levels & GCSEs with Baccalaureate system and the following amendments:-
-Choice on Humanities and\or Languages courses with neither compulsory,
and choice of science and\or practical skills training subjects
-Mandatory entitlement of one resit per exam\coursework module, with
schools and local authorities given discretion on further resits
-Choice of Comprehensive, Selective, Religious, and Voucher schools
-Full entitlement of on-campus accommodation for higher education, with extra grants for poorer students to help pay for accommodation
-Allow schools to issue tougher sanctions to disruptive pupils, and allocate each school with an extra staff member to deal with discipline issues and to keep track of disruptive pupils
-Set up a national school order watchdog to bring schools under public scrutiny if they do not apply appropriate discipline standards
-New referral schools to be set up so that pupils who are repeatedly excluded can be removed from circulation in the mainstream school system

Health
-Introduce freedom of management and financing at local level, with regional health authorities overseeing efficiency, and general standards
-Regional health authorities to publish annual hospital ratings and budget reports for public scrutiny
-Replace government targets with local accountability

Europe
-Re-negotiate working time directive with double minimum wage entitlement for time worked over 40-hour working week
-Review, negotiate, and amend, but don't abolish, the Human Rights Act 1998

Devolution
-All Ulster counties and provinces to be granted independence from Her Majesty's provinces, on condition that their sovereignty be granted to the Republic of Ireland, thus creating a re-united Ireland
-Scotland to be given full discretion over systems of taxation and rental, ownership and immigration rights on condition of reduced subsidies from Whitehall
Posi
07-10-2006, 22:48
I'd rename the UK the Land of Pickle Weasels.
Drunk commies deleted
07-10-2006, 23:06
I'd rename the UK the Land of Pickle Weasels.

Pickle Weasle

The Pickle Weasle is known for it's scarce sightings and pickle smelling hair. The Pickle Weasle is a master of disguise and can fit in the smallest crack if it wanted to. The Pickle Weasle can shed it's fur at any time and grow a new coat in 2-3 hours. The Pickle Weasle was discovered in a vacant field in South America robbing a mouse den of it's babies and raping the mother mouse. There are only around 300 Pickle Weasles left in the wild. The rest of them are in captivity.

"I remember once when I was taking a trip to South America and I saw a Pickle Weasle ravaging a pickle infested barrel."

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Philosopy
07-10-2006, 23:07
You appear to be a socialist facist.

An interesting combination.
Free Randomers
07-10-2006, 23:14
Are you a party activist sounding out policies to see how people like them so you know what to campaign on in the next election?


Anyway - Law and Order - personally I'd like to see public floggings as punishment for a lot of lowish level crime to free up jail spaces so more serious offenders could be jailed longer.
Ithania
08-10-2006, 00:03
My word, if s/he was a party activist I’d be worried as to which disaster of a party….oops silly question. Disaster= New Labour. Is that you Gordy? Or is it Cameron scrambling for policies?

Anyhoo, you appear to have created the most economy crippling, war generating, crime increasing (ironically considering the police state it makes) and nonsensical manifesto in history.

Not only does it completely negate the idea of Parliamentary Sovereignty by seemingly attempting to bind successors but it also assumes we have a “constitution” when in actuality we have nothing but scattered documents and convention.

Most strange of it all is the idea that we have to “renegotiate” the 1998 Human Rights Act when any Government with a workable majority can completely overrule it by passing an Act which says “this is better than that, consider the other null and void”.

In summary all of the things there are either impractical, in practice, impossible, misunderstood, and possible-but-have-a-million-commentators-arguing-against.

Create regional prison authorities to oversee management of prisons with national HM prisons inspectorate carrying out inspections three times annually with a different inspector of each of the three occasions

Oh… and we have more government inspections than that for *animal breeders*, I think prisoners deserve a little more.
Greyenivol Colony
08-10-2006, 00:33
Introduce AMS voting systems nationally.
Devolve more powers to a county level in England, maintain status quo in Scotland, move Wales up to Scotland's level, work to hand N. Ireland to Eire. Oppose an English parliament and any laws that seek to break up the British Union.
Passionately support European Federalism, and Britain's place within it.
Seek to grant more independence to the Judiciary, remove patronage, make the top positions self-selecting.
Make no laws that seek to undermine traditional liberties, and not to use the threat of Terrorism as a rhetorical device for introducing tyranny.
Never threaten a company's right to outsource.
Offer incentives for people, especially the retired, to emigrate. Allow an open door policy for those who are willing and able to work, or simply want to make a better life for themselves.
Maintain the nuclear deterent.
Seek to maintain a common foreign policy with Europe, whilst not letting acts of Genocide and barbarism go unpunished.
Cape Isles
08-10-2006, 01:45
1. 50% income tax on all those who earn over £250,000 a year.
2. Better relation with Commonwealth nations especially those with large deposits of oil, coal and gas (currently a national emergency lack of resources)
3. More funds for NHS
4. Increase building speed on Type 45 Destroyers, order 8 more than planned.
5. Build new nuclear power stations to keep up with customer demand.
6. Build more helicopters and mechanized units for British Army's new Mechanized Brigades.
7. Better relations with the Republic of Ireland.
8. Cancel all regimental amalgamation unless officers and troops want it.
9. Pull out of European Union, or at least stop them taxing us (20 million a day)
10. Pull British Forces out of Iraq and send them to Lebanon (lead the UN mission in the region)
11. Build new prisons.
12. 'Modernize' rural part's of Scotland, England and Wales and get around a few thousand un-employed to live around and work in these new towns.
Kyronea
08-10-2006, 01:57
I would immediately resign because I am not a British citizen.
New Xero Seven
08-10-2006, 02:01
Free pancakes for all UKers!
Posi
08-10-2006, 02:05
Free pancakes for all UKers!

Free pancakes for all Canadians, sponsored by the government of the UK.
Ithania
08-10-2006, 03:14
(Trust me this will be long, sorry in advance and good luck making it to the end... I bet you don't :p )

• Tax “opt out” option for those who use private sector education (etc) thus ensuring those individuals who do not use state provided services do not pay for them.

• Privatisation of healthcare at the national level, specifically encouraging HMO creation in the UK over single payer. The NHS will be completely privatised with automatic membership of it as an HMO for those who still wish to pay national insurance; they may choose to leave this at any time.

• State education to 18 (unless using private, see point one) with option of employment at 16 (still using High School and College separation). Those who choose employment at 16 get two tax free years to make up for the earning difference with the more qualified individuals who continue education to 18 and ensure an economy in which more consumer demand exists.

• All religious symbols in schools where the State is majority share controller are banned to ensure separation of church and state.

• There are to be two tiers to the school system, the present and an exclusion level. Children who presistently cause disruption in schools for no evident medical or psychologically effecting reason are to be put into schools with people of similar mentality to ensure they don't have a detrimental effect on the majority of students. Teachers in these schools will received 10% more annually to ensure supply.

• Failing schools will have their budgets cut as opposed to increased due to recent studies which prove increased money does not yield increased performance. This threat will make schools more efficient with the resources provided to them. Consistent failures will have their budgets removed, the school closed, and the students seperated in equal numbers to local schools who will receive a fraction of the old schools budget to aid integration.

• Schools which are successful will have their budgets increased but the money provided it to be used solely for increasing the maximum student intake of the school in areas with greater demand and in areas without it the money is to be used to further improve services.

• Suffrage of taxation. Those who pay tax have a share in the State hence have a right to vote. Prisoners are believed to be likely to vote for the Government which provides the most lenient punishment whilst the unemployed will vote for the Government most likely to increase benefits.

• Elimination of Government subsidy for arts and humanities beyond those necessary to give students in State education a general overview of society. Arts and humanities are believed to provide no physical benefit to the taxpayer in the form of services or a more stable economy.

• Elimination of Government subsidy for industry such as nuclear power stations. All industries must make a profit to avoid a return to a crippled economy and the market must be as free as possible without protectionist measures.

• The minimum wage is rendered null and void. Industry pays its employees what it can afford to therefore forcing companies to pay more than this means greater unemployment likelihood due to bankruptcy and harms the economy.

• All individuals who become unemployed are given 90 days to find new employment before funds are removed. An individual must work for at least the amount of time required to pay double the amount they received from the state in unemployment benefit before being able to claim again. Exceptions to this are those who are unable to work and proven to be unable after investigation. These people will be entered into the already existing mechanisms.

• All universities are now to receive no Government funding; they must function as private entities. This will reduce the supply of degree holders thus making demand greater and acting as boost to the economy with greater pay levels. However, to ensure meritocracy the Government will mandate the creation of an independent Student Loans Company which will charge interest as opposed to the present system. Moreover, if means testing shows a student to be from a poor background or a student is studying a science, maths, engineering (etc) they will receive bursaries from the Government.

• Instant separation of the powers in England with the present Executive transitioning from present office to new position; this will be elected every 6 years and must be elected two years after the last Parliament election. The legislature will retain its dominance and be elected under AMS with a 5% threshold to prevent extremist parties; this will be elected every three years. The House of Lords will be 50% elected and 50% appointed by the present Executive with approval from Commons; this will be elected every five years. The judiciary will be given greater power and be able to challenge primary legislation with the Constitutional Reform Act 2005 providing the basic foundations for this.

• England will take a greater role in the EU so as to curb the social intrusions but promote the ECC element such as competitiveness laws.

• The Government will build tidal barrages as Nuclear Power stations have been proven to be uneconomical (£91 Billion to decommission them). These will then be leased to the private sector who will pay all maintenance costs. Once lease payments have met the cost to build the barrages will be sold to the highest private sector bidder.

• Devolution of power to NI, Wales, Scotland, and England so that each is a seperate sovereign nation.


I’m sure there’s a lot more but I’ve had quite a bit of white wine and can’t sleep so this is all I could think of in my deluded state.

:D :D If you read this far WOOOOHOOOO congrats!!!!:D:D
Nadkor
08-10-2006, 03:16
I wouldn't have been elected I would have been appointed.
Wanderjar
08-10-2006, 03:16
I would do one thing:



Free Scotland!

;)
Nadkor
08-10-2006, 03:17
-All Ulster counties and provinces to be granted independence from Her Majesty's provinces, on condition that their sovereignty be granted to the Republic of Ireland, thus creating a re-united Ireland

Haha, you have no fucking idea.
Wanderjar
08-10-2006, 03:19
Haha, you have no fucking idea.

LOL :D
King Arthur the Great
08-10-2006, 04:52
First things first:

Return of Ulster counties to the Republic of Ireland. Single, unified island under one, Irish, government.

Devolution of Scotland, Wales, and England. Those English are sonbby, since they make it seem like their Parliament can overrule the other Assemblies. Scotland and wales have devolved assemblies, time for England to get it's share, at London.

Parliament will have to either:
Split time equally in Edinburgh, London, and Cardriff, or,

Turn the Isle of Man into a giant city whose sole purpose is to act as the capital for the United Kingdom.

Of course, in my personal dream, I would do the previous, but retain Ireland as part of the United Kingdoms of Scotland, England, and Ireland, while instituting Irish, Scottish, and Welsh forms of Gaelic as official languages, and abolishing that silly ban on a Catholic monarchy so that I could take the throne. I'm a genius, I adapt readily, and the UK would prosper under me.
Not bad
08-10-2006, 05:22
I would solve the chav problem.

I would raze all council houses and issue caravans and Land Rovers and handguns to all displaced residents.

Let the next PM solve the armed pikey problem.
Cape Isles
08-10-2006, 11:44
All Ulster counties and provinces to be granted independence from Her Majesty's provinces, on condition that their sovereignty be granted to the Republic of Ireland, thus creating a re-united Ireland


work to hand N. Ireland to Eire.


Return of Ulster counties to the Republic of Ireland. Single, unified island under one, Irish, government.


Now that would be extremely bad. I don't think the Republic would want Ulster because there would be a repeat of the troubles, but attacks would be carried out by the LVF, UDA, UFF and UVF against the Irish Army and Sinn Féin. They also might want to kill the UK PM for signing their counties away.
Safalra
08-10-2006, 11:53
-All Ulster counties and provinces to be granted independence from Her Majesty's provinces, on condition that their sovereignty be granted to the Republic of Ireland, thus creating a re-united Ireland
Oh great, then we'll have Unionists bombing the UK...
Ieuano
08-10-2006, 12:24
heres what i would do

1) Devolve more power to NI, Wal and keep Sco at the same level, England can have its regional assembly in Birmingham with Westminster being the government for the whole of the federalised UK.

2) Create UK wide services, rather than different ones for Scotland than England and Wales (Like electricity)

errm there are more but i am tired and i hve two 45 mark essays to write
Greyenivol Colony
08-10-2006, 12:37
<snip>

You'll never get away with it!
[NS]Trilby63
08-10-2006, 12:38
I would solve the chav problem.

I would raze all council houses and issue caravans and Land Rovers and handguns to all displaced residents.

Let the next PM solve the armed pikey problem.

I bloody live in a council house, thank you! It's that exact un-neighbourly atittude that causes all that crap you know!?
Greyenivol Colony
08-10-2006, 12:41
Now that would be extremely bad. I don't think the Republic would want Ulster because there would be a repeat of the troubles, but attacks would be carried out by the LVF, UDA, UFF and UVF against the Irish Army and Sinn Féin. They also might want to kill the UK PM for signing their counties away.

The thing is that the Unionists are a dying breed. Demographically they cannot keep up with their Catholic counterparts. Within a generation the Catholics will make up the overwhelming majority and then Northern Ireland can be traded off.
Nadkor
08-10-2006, 22:47
First things first:

Return of Ulster counties to the Republic of Ireland. Single, unified island under one, Irish, government.

Yet another person with no clue.

Turn the Isle of Man into a giant city whose sole purpose is to act as the capital for the United Kingdom.

The Isle of Man isn't in the UK, so good luck with that.
Nadkor
08-10-2006, 22:48
The thing is that the Unionists are a dying breed. Demographically they cannot keep up with their Catholic counterparts. Within a generation the Catholics will make up the overwhelming majority and then Northern Ireland can be traded off.

Yet another person who makes the completely incorrect assumption that Catholic = Nationalist, and that Protestant = Unionist.
Ithania
08-10-2006, 22:56
You'll never get away with it!

Au contraire, there were plans in place to privatise the “sacred cow” that is the NHS under Thatcher… if it wasn’t for the pesky poll tax problem it would have already been implemented.

My manifesto would be finishing the job her Government started, no doubt with the full support of the majority in the Conservative Party… seeing as I’m already elected in this hypothetical scenario the UK would be an “elected dictatorship” where I can get away with anything for 4 years!

In conclusion, nur nur nuh nur na.:p
Greyenivol Colony
08-10-2006, 23:10
Yet another person who makes the completely incorrect assumption that Catholic = Nationalist, and that Protestant = Unionist.

Speaking in the generalising swathe that is demography, it might aswell be. Eventually, it won't matter if one in ten people are Unionist, the majority could quite legitimately vote to join the Republic, and London wouldn't stop them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not unsympathetic to the Unionist cause, I just think that it is ultimately a lost cause. Northern Ireland will not be British by the end of this century.
Greyenivol Colony
08-10-2006, 23:11
Au contraire, there were plans in place to privatise the “sacred cow” that is the NHS under Thatcher… if it wasn’t for the pesky poll tax problem it would have already been implemented.

My manifesto would be finishing the job her Government started, no doubt with the full support of the majority in the Conservative Party… seeing as I’m already elected in this hypothetical scenario the UK would be an “elected dictatorship” where I can get away with anything for 4 years!

In conclusion, nur nur nuh nur na.:p

And this is why it is a good thing that we can all vote!
ChuChuChuChu
08-10-2006, 23:12
Speaking in the generalising swathe that is demography, it might aswell be. Eventually, it won't matter if one in ten people are Unionist, the majority could quite legitimately vote to join the Republic, and London wouldn't stop them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not unsympathetic to the Unionist cause, I just think that it is ultimately a lost cause. Northern Ireland will not be British by the end of this century.

Maybe not but it'll have just the same basic problem no matter what.
Greyenivol Colony
08-10-2006, 23:14
The Isle of Man isn't in the UK, so good luck with that.

However, all it would take to change the Isle's status from Crown Possession to Capital of the United Kingdom is a simple act of legislation.
Nadkor
08-10-2006, 23:27
Speaking in the generalising swathe that is demography, it might aswell be. Eventually, it won't matter if one in ten people are Unionist, the majority could quite legitimately vote to join the Republic, and London wouldn't stop them.

When you consider that only 50% of Catholics want a united Ireland, and 25% of Catholics want to remain in the UK, speaking in a generalising swathe that all Catholics are Nationalist is completely fraudulent and ignoring the base facts of the matter at hand.

In addition, taking the population of Northern Ireland as a whole, only 23% want to join a united Ireland.
Psychotic Mongooses
08-10-2006, 23:33
Speaking in the generalising swathe that is demography, it might aswell be.

Yeah... but it's not.
Greyenivol Colony
09-10-2006, 14:44
Oh yeah, and I'd reintroduce Exile to the statutes, have it so that serious offenders are dropped off in the black of night to nations where they are unlikely to receive a friendly reception... once there its dog-eat-dog, and we wash our hands of them.

All other prisons should be outsourced to the Commonwealth. African communities will be able to find a source of income by tending to the British gaols opened in their countries. Rehabilitated Guerillas can be asked to provide security for these prisons. We will also allow the host nation to house their own criminals in our prisons with the costs shared, provided we are satisfied that the prisoners are justly imprisoned. All this should tally up to be cheaper than keeping prisons in the UK, and open up valuable space at home.
The Potato Factory
09-10-2006, 15:08
I'd make myself a benevolent, libertarian dictator.
Drake and Dragon Keeps
09-10-2006, 15:26
If I was elected as Prime Minister of the UK, I would make the following policy changes on the following issues

-Any persons considered by employer for redundancy must be given minimum 6-month redundancy notice

-No national service, except for a mandatory draft that can be set up by a temporary wartime cabinet in times of extreme national treat




6 months warning seems quite excessive to me, 3-4 weeks should be sufficient.

I thought you said policy changes, there is no national service in the UK. It has only ever been instigated during the world wars since the feudal system was abolished.

Your other points I will read later, these were the two that jumped out at me.
New Burmesia
09-10-2006, 16:04
Here's what I'd do, I may even go into as much detail:D:

Constitutional Reform:
-Abolish the monarchy entirely, with its powers passing to Parliament, not the executive.
-Executive power exercised by a cabinet presided over by a President who is elected by a majority of and a member of Parliament, thsu retaining the traditional Westminster parliamentary system.
-Bicameral Parliament with a House of Commons elected by STV, Lords replaced by an elected Senate appropraited among the Home nations based on the square root of the population, with less power amnd staggered elections.
-Devolution for England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Channel Islands, Mann and Gibraltar. Cornwall as well, if they want it. Bicameral parliaments with a House of Assembly and Legislative Council (v. British Empire) and a Governor similar to the federal President. Will have powers similar to Canadian provinces.
-Written constitution, etc.
-Unitary local government, but give more powers to local town and city councils, like in the USA.

Economy
-Nationalise the railways, eletricity, gas, petrol, water, sewerage, the physical telephone network (but not suppliers) immediately and abolish PFI in all transport services. Supermarkets to be controlled to ensure a fair deal for suppliers.
-Replace council tax and VAT with a Land Value Tax.
-Replace most means tested benefits and the Progressive Tax with a Guranteed Minimum Income scheme and a flat tax (which is actually more progressive than Progressive Tax) maximising at 50%.
-Mandatorum on balanced budget over 10 or 11 year economic period allowing for economic fluctuations over period
-Raise the Inheritance tax threshold. Working class family home OK, oil empire not.

Crime
-Reduce police bureaucracy (although with my experiences I'd say bureaucracy or not they are all overpaid, incompitent idiots that should be grateful for anything we give them short of shooting). Reform police pay.
-Elected county constables in nonpartisan elections.
-Reduce the amount of guns in circulation.
-Increase the amount of jail places, but use restorative justice and rehabilitation as a goal.

Health
-Abolish PFI in the NHS, abolish Trusts and reduce bureaucracy. NHS management to be devolved to local county government instead of managers.
-Abolish target setting.
-Work towards free prescriptions, dentistry and opticians.
-Nationalise the pharmecutical giants under NHS control.

Education
-Abolish top up fees.
-Abolish city academies, but give all schools more economic freedom.
-Keep A Levels and GCSEs, but more encouragement for the sciences, languages and humanities.
-EMA to be abolioshed and replaced with the Guranteed Income.

Foreign policy
-Withdraw from the EU, but retain economic ties.
-End Iraq/Afghan wars.
-Work to abolish the UN veto and replace it with a larger security council with a 2/3 supermajority.

Immigration & National Security
-Respect for civil liberties.
-Immigration reduction, as much as I would like to take in everybody, we're a small island with an already big population. Instead, tackle the causes if mass migration.
Greyenivol Colony
09-10-2006, 16:22
6 months warning seems quite excessive to me, 3-4 weeks should be sufficient.

I thought you said policy changes, there is no national service in the UK. It has only ever been instigated during the world wars since the feudal system was abolished.

Your other points I will read later, these were the two that jumped out at me.

Actually, National Service was instigated up intill the 1960s. And there has recently been some talk of reviving it.
New Burmesia
09-10-2006, 16:27
However, all it would take to change the Isle's status from Crown Possession to Capital of the United Kingdom is a simple act of legislation.
Actually, I think it would be an Order in Council to make Mann a part of the UK, and since the designation of capital is a de facto position, no law is necessary.
Greyenivol Colony
09-10-2006, 16:28
Crime
-Elected county constables in nonpartisan elections.


Electing the police is a very bad idea. The majority of people have very little concern for justice, and instead wish the police to work to ensure that communities judged to be criminal are kept scared.
New Burmesia
09-10-2006, 16:44
Electing the police is a very bad idea. The majority of people have very little concern for justice, and instead wish the police to work to ensure that communities judged to be criminal are kept scared.

I'd disagree with that. They have elected County Sheriffs in America, and that doesn't seem to be a wide problem, or every county practically wouldn't use it.
Ice Hockey Players
09-10-2006, 16:54
I would be very surprised to be Prime minister of the UK, but no way would I turn this job down. let's see what I would do...

First off, I would hire a voice coach to help me work on my British accent. I might as well sound native.

I would keep the monarchy, since the people seem to like it.

As for elections, they would be changed to occur once every four years on the first Wednesday in November or whenever, rather than "next elections are whenever the hell we feel like it." The PM would still have the power to dissolve Parliament and call for new elections, of course, and MPs would be able to be removed by a three-quarters majority of Parliament or by their own party.

Also, I would introduce a proportional vote system. Enough of the two-party nonsense. Maybe turn the House of Lords into a system elected by district or town or something. The House of Lords is a perfectly acceptable Supreme Court, or maybe it should be made entirely into a bunch of figureheads as well. A new Supreme Court-type organization would be created...the House of Pickle Weasels or something.

Councils can be established, mainly for cities and their surrounding areas and such. A written Constitution would be established for no other reason than that it's about damn time. To amend it, a three-fifths majority of the councils, a majority vote of the House of Lords, and a two-thirds majority of the House of Commons would be required, and the Queen/King would rubber-stamp it. Maybe the bit about the House of Lords would be scratched.

If I am the UK, I would get the hell out of Iraq already. There's no reason to be there. Let the U.S. clean up the mess it primarly caused. I would help out in Afghanistan as much as I reasonably could, but the minute it looks like a lost cause, I would pull out.

I would go closer to the EU, working with it, but I wouldn't be prepared to turn over to the euro just yet. Such a move is a nice ace in the hole to have if the pound goes sour, but for now, it's not necessary. I would also not be prepared to give up the veto in the UN, but if there's a push to do away with veto powers, I would expect something significant for giving it up, like continued presence on Security Council.

As for immigrants, the following would be enacted - anyone here illegally has one year to become a British citizen or be deported. Becoming a British citizen wouldn't be difficult or anything, but after that one-year period is up, anyone who comes to the UK illegally would be deported immediately. Those who play by the rules can stay.

That doesn't mean it's time to go soft on counterterrorism, though. Security would remain tight at airports, train stations, and bus stations, and on immigration applications, those who are proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be working with terrorist organizations of any kind would not be allowed in. Since Northern Ireland is part of the UK, that means work with Irish security would be in order as well.

The biggest problem would likely be housing costs...not sure what i would be able to do with that except create a decent public housing system...
LiberationFrequency
09-10-2006, 17:36
We already have a constitution and councils.
Ithania
09-10-2006, 22:32
We already have a constitution

Okey dokey, would you mind pointing to the Constitution for me please? I’ve certainly failed to see a Constitution using the idea that “in the case of nation states, this term refers specifically to a national constitution, which defines its nation's fundamental political principles and establishes the power and duties of each government. Most national constitutions also guarantee certain rights to the people.”

We have something like a Constitution but not an actual codified document don't we?:confused:
Nadkor
09-10-2006, 22:35
A Constitution does not need to be codified to be a constitution.

We have a Constitution. Some is written, some is convention, but it's still a Constitution.
Zilam
09-10-2006, 22:38
I'd make sure that you UKians would have to call "biscuits", cookies, and american biscuits would be known as just biscuits. I'd also ban tea. :)
Ithania
09-10-2006, 22:38
We have a Constitution. Some is written, some is convention, but it's still a Constitution.

I'm aware that's one of the definitions which takes into account Magna Carta, books of authority, the EU, etc but Ice Hockey was saying we should have a single codified document rather than the uncodified debacle presently.

Liberation then said that we already have one but, taking the other definition I supplied, we don't have a Constitution in the essence Ice Hockey was referring to it as.
Nadkor
09-10-2006, 22:46
I'm aware that's one of the definitions which takes into account Magna Carta, books of authority, the EU, etc but Ice Hockey was saying we should have a single codified document rather than the uncodified debacle presently.

Liberation then said that we already have one but, taking the other definition I supplied, we don't have a Constitution in the essence Ice Hockey was referring to it as.

Ice Hockey didn't say "codified", he said "written".

I contend that much, most, of our Constitution is written.

Maybe he means "entirely written", or "codified".
Nadkor
09-10-2006, 22:50
As for elections, they would be changed to occur once every four years on the first Wednesday in November or whenever, rather than "next elections are whenever the hell we feel like it." The PM would still have the power to dissolve Parliament and call for new elections, of course, and MPs would be able to be removed by a three-quarters majority of Parliament or by their own party.

Oh yea, I missed this. Elections aren't called "whenever the hell we feel like it", they are called in accordance with the Septennial Act 1715 (Amended by the Parliament Act 1911). This states that elections to Parliament must occur within 5 years of previous elections, or Parliament is dissolved and elections are called anyway.
Ithania
09-10-2006, 22:51
I contend that much, most, of our Constitution is written.

Of course it is but I was working under the interpretation that Ice Hockey is aware of how it's presently uncodified and simply said "written" due to this being a general forum where terminology isn't a necessity.

Who could honestly think that we don't have an at least partly written constitution? :confused:

Oh yea, I missed this. Elections aren't called "whenever the hell we feel like it", they are called in accordance with the Septennial Act 1715 (Amended by the Parliament Act 1911). This states that elections to Parliament must occur within 5 years of previous elections, or Parliament is dissolved and elections are called anyway.

Oh dear... am I wrong in thinking it was ammended for the World Wars too? :confused: I really should read basic documents more often. :(

And to be fair we don't have a minimum length for Parliament either so it is potentially open to some political manipulation depending on public opinion at the time isn't it? or would you disagree?
Greyenivol Colony
09-10-2006, 23:51
I'd make sure that you UKians would have to call "biscuits", cookies, and american biscuits would be known as just biscuits. I'd also ban tea. :)

O_O

Ban tea!?

There'd be riots! Insurrections! Anarchy on the streets!
Ithania
10-10-2006, 00:59
There'd be riots! Insurrections! Anarchy on the streets!

So exactly what are you saying would be different to now? :rolleyes:
New Xero Seven
10-10-2006, 01:00
O_O

Ban tea!?

There'd be riots! Insurrections! Anarchy on the streets!

Please don't. Tea = super greatness!