NationStates Jolt Archive


What do you think of this guy?

SmallMexicanDiplomats
07-10-2006, 17:22
i stumbled across this website the other day and was quite disturbed by some of the articles.
This guy, Angry Harry, is claiming to be a Men's Rights activist.
Don't get me wrong, i support any kind of Human Rights activism wholeheartedly.
But this guy...
Well...
Wander around the site for a bit, read a few random articles, judge for yourself.

Just a warning, the following link will take you to an article on sexual assault.

Here's (http://www.angryharry.com/esIgnoringRelationships.htm) an example of the sort of articles this site is mostly made up of.

Personally, i find some of the things he said in that article completely despicable, and it's quite terrifying that this guy appears to have quite a big fanbase.

i was just wondering what everyone else makes of his message?
Ashmoria
07-10-2006, 17:47
he seems to me to be a typical antifeminst idiot who overstates thing, take specific cases and suggests that they represent all women, makes things up, and uses strawman arguments frequently.

isnt it that only way to get people to read your blog?
Wanderjar
07-10-2006, 17:49
Meh, he's a dumbass. I ignore his kind, which makes me a better person!


Ignoring for the win! W00t! :D
Demented Hamsters
07-10-2006, 17:58
eh..you have to give him points for his turns-of-phrase.
I especially liked "their feminist overlords".
Gotta get me some of that.


I'm a tad confused about the rhs pics, showing 'before' and 'after' shots of men who have read his columns:
Before
http://www.angryharry.com/images/before3.jpg
After:
http://www.angryharry.com/images/after3.jpg

Does this mean that men who don't read his rants are more likely to become jewish intellectual comedians who sleep with their step-daughters?
And ones who do read it are more likely to become gay icons? Actually, come to think about it - that picture's of Brad in 'Troy'. And we all know what those greeks got up to back then!
edit: I just realised something else about him: He's got one of the worst mullets I've ever seen. Does that also come from reading this guy's rants?
Skaladora
07-10-2006, 18:03
i stumbled across this website the other day and was quite disturbed by some of the articles.
This guy, Angry Harry, is claiming to be a Men's Rights activist.
Don't get me wrong, i support any kind of Human Rights activism wholeheartedly.
But this guy...
Well...
Wander around the site for a bit, read a few random articles, judge for yourself.

Just a warning, the following link will take you to an article on sexual assault.

Here's (http://www.angryharry.com/esIgnoringRelationships.htm) an example of the sort of articles this site is mostly made up of.

Personally, i find some of the things he said in that article completely despicable, and it's quite terrifying that this guy appears to have quite a big fanbase.

i was just wondering what everyone else makes of his message?

I am of the opinion that this angry Harry fellow needs to be raped by someone intimate to him. Then to be raped by a completely random stranger on the street. After that, he can tell us if he still thinks that being raped by someone you know is somehow better than being raped by a stranger.
Gorias
07-10-2006, 18:04
for what ever logical arguements you could make about tilting the scaling for more equality for men(in the west); this guy seems like a rambling idiot.
Laerod
07-10-2006, 18:05
i was just wondering what everyone else makes of his message?I think "Men's Rights Activist" is an inappropriate title for him.
Ifreann
07-10-2006, 18:07
This Angry Harry person phails.

That is all.
Neo Undelia
07-10-2006, 18:09
He isn’t entirely wrong about some things, but he’s going about it the wrong way.
Skaladora
07-10-2006, 18:11
He isn’t entirely wrong about some things, but he’s going about it the wrong way.
Sorry, I beg to differ:

He IS entirely wrong about everything.
Neo Undelia
07-10-2006, 18:13
Sorry, I beg to differ:

He IS entirely wrong about everything.
He links to some very good articles.
Gorias
07-10-2006, 18:13
Sorry, I beg to differ:

He IS entirely wrong about everything.

i dont think its posible to understand if he is right or wrong in most things.
is although right the case about the teacher having sex with a minor and didnt go to jail.
SmallMexicanDiplomats
07-10-2006, 18:19
I am of the opinion that this angry Harry fellow needs to be raped by someone intimate to him. Then to be raped by a completely random stranger on the street. After that, he can tell us if he still thinks that being raped by someone you know is somehow better than being raped by a stranger.

Although i'm strongly of the opinion that nobody deserves to be raped
(Not even people like him, whose words contribute towards keeping victims of abuse too ashamed to speak up)
...Even still, Skaladora said it best. :\

It's interesting what happens when we're allowed freedom of speech.
You end up with websites like Angry Harry's.
In a way, i'm almost glad the site exists, if only because it proves that we really do all have the freedom to speak our minds...
....i just happen to be quite disgusted and disturbed by much of the site's content.
But at least he's allowed to write it all down without being silenced.
Lucitanica
07-10-2006, 18:22
Am I the only one that thinks he's a joke? I mean seriously:
On this website - hither and thither - and with STRONG evidence - FEMINISM is shown to be a significant CAUSAL factor when it comes to serious violence, assault, domestic violence, sexual assault, robbery, child abuse, drug abuse, teenage pregnancies, poverty, poor educational standards, prostitution, paedophilia, harassment, bad manners, traffic congestion, pollution, terrorism, vandalism, burglary, murder, teenage delinquency, road rage, alcoholism, other addictions, hooliganism, depression, gender conflict, hysteria, stress, serious health problems such as heart disease and cancer, greater disablement among children - both psychological and physical - with millions killed while in the womb, AIDS, the judicial punishment of innocent individuals, the poor educational achievements of boys, the growing prison population, family breakdown, the increasing alienation of men, the corruption of the justice system and the democratic process, the corrosion of academic integrity, the degradation of the social sciences and the law, poor public services, the impoverishment of pensioners and the looming pension crisis, excessive immigration, long hospital waiting lists, hostile rap music, high taxation rates, the terrible shock now being experienced by thousands of women who are discovering that they are too old to have children, and, almost unbelievably, global warming.
Gorias
07-10-2006, 18:25
Am I the only one that thinks he's a joke? I mean seriously:

the true ones are "bad manners" and "deaths in wombs".
although my favourite ones are "global warming" and "hostile rap music".
Skaladora
07-10-2006, 18:26
Guys, that person is actually trying to trivialize the rape of a woman if it's done by someone close to her. Let me be pretty clear; that point of view reduces the woman to a sex object. It robs her of her right to say no.

Got news for yall; if you girlfriend, or even your wife, says no, then it's no. You can't go around and force yourself on a woman even if you happen to be in a relationship with her. It's still rape, and inexcusable.

By trying to minimize the importance of rape as a crime, he's effectively saying that women are actually there to satisfy men's sexual desires, and that a woman in a relationship with a man loses any ability to consent or withold consent from him, and that the man becomes the one who decides what she wants or not.

If that's the definition of being for men's rights, then I'm definitely against men's rights.

[/rant]
Dakini
07-10-2006, 18:26
I stopped reading when I got to the part about "alleged rape victims"

Fucking jackass probably thinks that men have the right to have sex with women no matter what.
Neo Undelia
07-10-2006, 18:27
Guys, that person is actually trying to trivialize the rape of a woman if it's done by someone close to her. Let me be pretty clear; that point of view reduces the woman to a sex object. It robs her of her right to say no.

Got news for yall; if you girlfriend, or even your wife, says no, then it's no. You can't go around and force yourself on a woman even if you happen to be in a relationship with her. It's still rape, and inexcusable.

By trying to minimize the importance of rape as a crime, he's effectively saying that women are actually there to satisfy men's sexual desires, and that a woman in a relationship with a man loses any ability to consent or withold consent from him, and that the man becomes the one who decides what she wants or not.

If that's the definition of being for men's rights, then I'm definitely against men's rights.

[/rant]
Well obviously that particular article is wrong, but that doesn’t mean other things he says can’t have merit.
Gorias
07-10-2006, 18:28
he's effectively saying that women are actually there to satisfy men's sexual desires, and that a woman in a relationship with a man loses any ability to consent or withold consent from him, and that the man becomes the one who decides what she wants or not.

[/rant]

he sounds like one of those mongral mob chaps.
Linthiopia
07-10-2006, 18:30
He's an idiot, alright. Knee-jerk reaction to radical feminists (Womyn, anyone?). I can sympathisize with the feelings of annoyance, but he's just making a fool of himself. "No" means "No".
Skaladora
07-10-2006, 18:30
Well obviously that particular article is wrong, but that doesn’t mean other things he says can’t have merit.
Yes, to me it does. Anybody who holds such a view loses any credibility he might have.

It clearly shows he holds contempt for women in general, and especially for feminists in particular. Knowing this, one can hardly take anything he says to be unbiased and thoroughly well-thought.
SmallMexicanDiplomats
07-10-2006, 18:43
Am I the only one that thinks he's a joke?

i actually thought the site itself was literally a joke when i first started reading - a kind of satirical look at mysogyny...especially the part about feminism being a cause for global warming etc. :rolleyes:

Then i realised he was actually for real. :eek:

Originally Posted by Skaladora
Guys, that person is actually trying to trivialize the rape of a woman if it's done by someone close to her. Let me be pretty clear; that point of view reduces the woman to a sex object. It robs her of her right to say no.

Got news for yall; if you girlfriend, or even your wife, says no, then it's no. You can't go around and force yourself on a woman even if you happen to be in a relationship with her. It's still rape, and inexcusable.

By trying to minimize the importance of rape as a crime, he's effectively saying that women are actually there to satisfy men's sexual desires, and that a woman in a relationship with a man loses any ability to consent or withold consent from him, and that the man becomes the one who decides what she wants or not.

Thank God there are people out there who recognise that it's actually a serious crime, regardless of who the perpetrator is.
Gorias
07-10-2006, 18:53
Yes, to me it does. Anybody who holds such a view loses any credibility he might have.

It clearly shows he holds contempt for women in general, and especially for feminists in particular. Knowing this, one can hardly take anything he says to be unbiased and thoroughly well-thought.

people can have largely stupid views, as well as good ones.
hitler for example.i could go through the good and bad but its been done frequently on this site.
george bush. war bad. some domestic views good.
tony blare. cock sucking lap dog that takes in the ass from the americans while pissing on his own people, but at least he's pro-capitalism.
"argueing against globalization is liking trying to change the tides."
stalin. the communist thing but at least he led to russia tighting thier domestic violence laws,thats always good.
bertie. overall scumbag but he didnt sell out some of irelands most important values.
Neo Undelia
07-10-2006, 18:54
Yes, to me it does. Anybody who holds such a view loses any credibility he might have.

It clearly shows he holds contempt for women in general, and especially for feminists in particular. Knowing this, one can hardly take anything he says to be unbiased and thoroughly well-thought.
Hmm. I don’t dismiss ideas based ion their origin.
Skaladora
07-10-2006, 18:58
Hmm. I don’t dismiss ideas based ion their origin.
I seldom do, but when the origin so obviously lacks any common sense, decency, and respect for roughly half of humanity, I think some dismissing is in order.

Somebody who argues that rape is only a mild discomfort should not be taken seriously on anything of importance.