NationStates Jolt Archive

That's right, support your local Dunkin' Doughnuts and Applebee's! Why, becuse they actually refuse to hire illegals. How do they know that the person are illegals. Well the fact that their SSI # don't match up with the one on their license is a clue. I think it's about damn time someone actually stop hiring them. That's part of the problem isn't it, the reason the illegals come here is that they're willing to work for less than your average Americans. However if the jobs stop becoming available, or if companies are given benefits of paying illegals the same wages as American workers, then the illegals will have no real reason to come here because the cheap labour that companies like Wal-Mart and others enjoy isn't there anymore. Since it's not there anymore, then eh, why hire them. Might as well hire Joe six pack. Then maybe the illegals can go back home and fix their own damn country! I know Mexico sucks (except for the beautiful women), the government sucks, but it doesn't do anyone any good for them to run away from their problems. They really should go back home and fix their government. Of course Dunkin' Doughnuts and Applebees are under fire, because apparently somehow this is a form of discrimination. Yea, tell ya what, let me call up INS, and the police and see what they have to say about your fake SSI # and fake Driver License. One of them have to be fake since the SSI # and the SSI # on the license does not match up. I'll try to find a link to the story after work.

Nah I dont really care for their food

If I am going to pay for eating out I am going to pay for food I really like (aplebees is OK)

People who cross the border are not, as you so eloquently put it, "running away from their problems", they make a dangerous crossing and most of them will send money back to their relatives.

If there are no jobs in your country, then you can't just magically create them in your town or whatever, as you suggest, you go elsewhere for work.

If the only place is another country, then that's where you go, no?

If you refuse to purchase from those who hire illegals, you'll not be buying much of anything. Certainly no food.

People who cross the border are not, as you so eloquently put it, "running away from their problems", they make a dangerous crossing and most of them will send money back to their relatives.

If there are no jobs in your country, then you can't just magically create them in your town or whatever, as you suggest, you go elsewhere for work.

If the only place is another country, then that's where you go, no?

Even if I do have to go to another country for a job, I would not do it illegally. I will do it by the country's law.

If you refuse to purchase from those who hire illegals, you'll not be buying much of anything. Certainly no food.

Local stores are still around, they're hidden, but still around.

Even if I do have to go to another country for a job, I would not do it illegally. I will do it by the country's law.
It takes bloody ages to get into the US legally... your family is going hungry and will starve pretty soon without some money... what do you do?

If you refuse to purchase from those who hire illegals, you'll not be buying much of anything. Certainly no food.

Yeah what are the chanses the people they buy their food from is suported by a LOT of illegals

Local stores are still around, they're hidden, but still around.

And often purchase a lot of food from growers and large food distrobution centers like apperts ... which has had a history of hiring illegals

Not everything that they have on the menu can be grown localy (specialy up north here)

It takes bloody ages to get into the US legally... your family is going hungry and will starve pretty soon without some money... what do you do?

Green Card Program
Guest Worker Program
etc. There are programs which allows you to work in the country temp. in order to support your family back home, which are legal. The only down side of the 700 fence, is that, well it's only 700 and doesn't electrify the people who will try to climb up on it.

Green Card Program
Guest Worker Program
etc. There are programs which allows you to work in the country temp.
All of which takes time, time which you may not have.

Local stores are still around, they're hidden, but still around.

Local stores still buy from big companies, who employ illegals.

All of which takes time, time which you may not have.

The responsibility of providing the people it's basic needs such as food, water, shelter etc. is the government. Mexico's government is responsible for it's own citizen's not the US.

I can't eat at either place, but the corp. office from Applebee's were rude to me on more than one occiasion so even if I could eat there I wouldn't.

;)

it's nice to know they aren't breaking the law though.

The responsibility of providing the people it's basic needs such as food, water, shelter etc. is the government. Mexico's government is responsible for it's own citizen's not the US.

Statements like these show a dramatic ignorance of the history of Latin America. I will show one example of why it is not possible to apply a North American perspective to the problems of Latin America:

The Europeans who came to North America during the 1500s came to build a new country that they lived in. They often fled persecution. Consequently, they built a strong infrastructure that emphasised individual freedoms.

The Europeans who came to South America during the 1500s came to build a colony that they could quickly and easily extract resources from. They often came from the social classes that were responsible for persecution. Consequently, they destroyed any local infrastructure and oppressed any local organisation that championed individual freedoms.

The USA and Canada have a whole set of rights and a political tradition of respecting them that Latin America does not have. And this is only one way that North America and Latin America differ.

This is why it is ignorant to say that 'Mexicans should just stay home and fix their country'.

Why should I support somewhere that is ripping me off by hiring extortionately paid native workers when I can eat somewhere that will pass the savings from illegal labour directly onto me, the customer.

I like their food, so I will eat there.

You know, it doesn't really effect my opinion of a place if they do or don't hire what ever..

Good coffee, good food, good times!

;)

I like their food, so I will eat there.

You know, it doesn't really effect my opinion of a place if they do or don't hire what ever..

Good coffee, good food, good times!

;)

Would you really eat at a place where they would hire someone like you or me?

Think about it ;)

:p

Statements like these show a dramatic ignorance of the history of Latin America. I will show one example of why it is not possible to apply a North American perspective to the problems of Latin America:

The Europeans who came to North America during the 1500s came to build a new country that they lived in. They often fled persecution. Consequently, they built a strong infrastructure that emphasised individual freedoms.

The Europeans who came to South America during the 1500s came to build a colony that they could quickly and easily extract resources from. They often came from the social classes that were responsible for persecution. Consequently, they destroyed any local infrastructure and oppressed any local organisation that championed individual freedoms.

The USA and Canada have a whole set of rights and a political tradition of respecting them that Latin America does not have. And this is only one way that North America and Latin America differ.

This is why it is ignorant to say that 'Mexicans should just stay home and fix their country'.


Hooray! There is an intelligent person out there that realizes the difference between N. and L. America! -Thanks Bob-

Would you really eat at a place where they would hire someone like you or me?

Think about it ;)

:p

Oh, I just changed my mind.

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Snapped this in Niagara Falls... intentional? Hmmm...