war in iraq, if britain hadnt...
Ostroeuropa
05-10-2006, 20:06
gone in.
Everyone beats britain for being americas buddy, but if we hadnt have gone in america wouldve torn up the place....well.... more.
Probobly would've started a war.
A bigger war i mean.
Islam VS West.
China would think "Fuckai" and throw its lot in with islam.
Russia wouldve done what they do best and backstabbed the west and chucked its lot in just so it can have its eastern european provinces back.
A little extreme, but possible.
Your views?
I have more faith in the US military than that, we aren't a bunch of gun-slinging cowboys.
Nomanslanda
05-10-2006, 20:11
uhm... sorry to be blunt but... BULLSHIT
if britain had stayed out of the war it would have maintained its integrity but there are plenty other allies which would have covered for them if the US had asked them to... for example as far as i know the NATO countries in eastern europe have sent troops in every conflict around the world in which the US had been somehow involved and could have sent them in far greater numbers in exchange for american military funding... which to be honest they would have received
Ostroeuropa
05-10-2006, 20:12
uhm... sorry to be blunt but... BULLSHIT
if britain had stayed out of the war it would have maintained its integrity but there are plenty other allies which would have covered for them if the US had asked them to... for example as far as i know the NATO countries in eastern europe have sent troops in every conflict around the world in which the US had been somehow involved and could have sent them in far greater numbers in exchange for american military funding... which to be honest they would have received
America DID ask everyone.
The only countries to contribute with a nice amount of troops were America, Britain, Australia and some naval ships from europe.
Nomanslanda
05-10-2006, 20:19
America DID ask everyone.
The only countries to contribute with a nice amount of troops were America, Britain, Australia and some naval ships from europe.
of course they did... but it was more along the line of "behold our mighty crusade against terrorism... any volunteers are welcome...". and they did it to justify their war, or at least to be able to silence any foreign criticism. what i was talking about is a more active approach... like "we will like you very much if you would join... perhaps some military hardware/technology or maybe a birbe would convince you?"
Ice Hockey Players
05-10-2006, 20:27
America DID ask everyone.
The only countries to contribute with a nice amount of troops were America, Britain, Australia and some naval ships from europe.
You forgot Poland! (Sorry, someone had to say it.) You forgot Spain, too, though they pulled out.
I doubt, though, that the U.S. would have been insane enough to start WWIII any more than they already have.
--Somewhere--
05-10-2006, 20:29
Don't be melodramatic. If we never bothered going into Iraq, it's likely that nothing would ever have come of it. Iraq was never our problem and what America goes doing there isn't our concern.
Greyenivol Colony
05-10-2006, 20:32
It would have made little difference in the immediate term. Saddam would fall just as quickly, the occupation would have folded out in the same way.
Perhaps the American public would have grown weary of the war quicker. But that is debatable, (a news report stating that 18 soldiers died is identical in terms of public grief as one that states that 15 have died).
I don't buy into the opinion that if we didn't assist in the occupation of Iraq that 7/7 wouldn't have happened, that had nothing to do with Iraq, but it had everything to do with pure simple hatred.
Soviestan
05-10-2006, 20:37
It wouldn't have made I difference one way or the other. Which makes the other whole thing a lot sadder. Britain lost all those lives for what? Nothing, certainly not for the glory of Britain. I feel almost more sorry for the Brits that lose their lives than the Americans. At least they knowingly signed up to die for the goals of the US.