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Despite the recent fall in oil prices...

PsychoticDan
05-10-2006, 19:42
Oil Analysts Raise 2007 Forecasts as Demand May Outpace Supply (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aD2mdsplVneY&refer=home)

By Mark Shenk

Oct. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Oil analysts are raising their price estimates for next year in anticipation of increased demand that may outpace the development of new deposits.

Crude oil will average $64 a barrel in New York in 2007, according to the median forecast of 29 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg News last week. That's $2 higher than predicted at the end of the second quarter. Analysts failed to predict the rise in oil throughout a five-year rally during which prices tripled.

``We see a very tight market continuing into next year,'' said Kevin Norrish, a director of commodities research for Barclays Capital in London. Barclays expects oil next year to average $76.70 a barrel, the highest forecast in the survey.

``The recent fall in prices is due to short-term factors,'' he said in an interview. ``We're looking for fairly strong global growth, and we don't see capacity expanding by much.''

Benchmark oil futures touched a record $78.40 a barrel July 14 on the New York Mercantile Exchange on concern that fighting between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon would spread through the Middle East, the source of almost a third of the world's oil. Prices fell after fighting ended in Lebanon and the Gulf of Mexico storm season passed without a repeat of last year's hurricanes, which crippled oil production and refineries. New York crude ended yesterday at $61.03 a barrel.

Oil's climb from less than $20 a barrel at the end of 2001 has been driven by the failure of producers to generate new supplies fast enough to keep pace with rising demand, especially in China. Analysts are betting that trend will continue.

They forecast that oil would be $58 a barrel at the start of 2006, according to the median in Bloomberg's survey last December. So far, crude oil has averaged $68.26, higher than any prior year.

Supply Increases

``We just haven't seen dramatic increases in supply,'' said James Rollyson, an analyst at Raymond James Financial Inc. in Houston. Raymond James is predicting $70 oil next year after forecasting $58 at the beginning of this year.

Oil consumption worldwide climbed 9 percent to an average 83.8 million barrels a day between 2000 and 2005, led by China and the U.S., according to the U.S. Energy Department. Global oil supply rose 8.6 percent to 84.5 million barrels.

Prices surged during the first half as Iran, the fourth- largest oil producer, pushed ahead with nuclear fuel enrichment, heightening tensions with the U.S. Iran has the world's second- biggest proved oil reserves and borders the Strait of Hormuz, a narrow waterway through which nearly a quarter of the world's oil is shipped.

Talks in Berlin between Iran and European Union officials aimed at breaking the deadlock over the atomic program produced some progress, Iran's chief nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani said on Sept. 28.

``It's been relatively cool on the political front recently, but odds are this won't continue through next year,'' said Rollyson at Raymond James.

Oil will average $65.50 a barrel in the fourth quarter, according to the median estimate in the survey. Analysts in June said oil would average $67.65 a barrel during the third quarter. Prices averaged $70.60 during the past three months, a record.

Economic Growth

Strategists who forecast a drop in prices next year say a slowing U.S. economy will coincide with increased output. U.S. economic growth slowed to a 2.6 percent pace in the second quarter, 3 percentage points lower than the first three months of the year, the Commerce Department said Sept. 28.

``We're very pessimistic about the U.S. and global economy next year,'' said Eoin O'Callaghan, an analyst with BNP Paribas SA in London who expects oil to average $59.80 next year. ``The last four years, there's been limited spare capacity, making us sensitive to disruptions and geopolitical risk.''

Rising fuel stockpiles in the U.S., which is responsible for 25 percent of global energy use, helped cause the decline in prices in the third quarter.

Spot prices are cheaper than futures for oil delivered later in the year, a market condition called ``contango.'' This has led to increased inventories, but it may end in coming months, said Adam Sieminski, chief energy economist at Deutsche Bank Securities AG in New York. He expects oil to average $61 a barrel in 2007.

The average price for Brent crude, traded on the London- based ICE Futures exchange, is likely to be $61 a barrel in 2007, according to the median forecast. I guess most analysts are finaly starting to wake up. I've watched them year aftr year say, "Oil prices are going to fall, oil prices are going to fall," while they went up and up and up...
Nguyen The Equalizer
05-10-2006, 19:45
I guess most analysts are finaly starting to wake up.

Isn't that one of the seven signs?
PsychoticDan
05-10-2006, 19:47
Isn't that one of the seven signs?

Unfortunately that may just be the case. I guess it depends on how long it takes the genral public to follow suit.
Nguyen The Equalizer
05-10-2006, 19:58
Unfortunately that may just be the case. I guess it depends on how long it takes the genral public to follow suit.

It doesn't need the general public, does it? Once the free market figures out that it's been hoisted by its own petard, all financial hell will break lose. We're just oversight.
Vetalia
05-10-2006, 19:58
Obviously, they're on target with that one since that's about what the Jan-Dec 2007 contracts average out to; of course, you might wonder if they just averaged the current prices and made that their projection but I think it's just the market responding to the prediction rather than vice versa. There are, of course, a lot of fundamentals justifying $60-$70 dollar oil in 2007; we might have drops below or above those levels due to geopolitics or weather, but those events are entirely unpredictable.

Now, I think the production data also raises some questions; July production hit a new high of 85.18 Mb/d and that could portend further supply growth and, ideally, more surplus capacity growth in to 2007. I don't think that this will cause prices to fall appreciably (although it could in the event of a major world economic slowdown), but it will remove some of the price volatility. If the supply disruptions are recovered, we could see some fairly significant surplus capacity next year although it depends entirely on whether or not new production outstrips demand.

An important point, however: even though July production rose to a new high, crude oil production was still below its December of 2005 level. That could have implications depending on whether or not crude production has maxed out; personally, I don't think it has yet, but it's starting to reach its limit.
Andaluciae
05-10-2006, 20:01
I guess most analysts are finaly starting to wake up. I've watched them year aftr year say, "Oil prices are going to fall, oil prices are going to fall," while they went up and up and up...

It's called the market attempting to reach equilibrium. In this case, the market is uniquely volatile, for many, many reasons supply can shift rapidly, and demand responds rather slowly.
Nguyen The Equalizer
05-10-2006, 20:01
If the supply disruptions are recovered, we could see some fairly significant surplus capacity next year although it depends entirely on whether or not new production outstrips demand.



Surplus from where? SA has a buffer of 1mpd, and that's the largest. Am I misunderstanding your terminology here?
Vetalia
05-10-2006, 20:07
Surplus from where? SA has a buffer of 1mpd, and that's the largest. Am I misunderstanding your terminology here?

There's between 600,000-700,000 bpd in Nigeria shut in due to attacks, and Venezuelan oil production has fallen by nearly 800,000 bpd since Chavez took power due to problems in the industry and mismanagement by his government. Also, Iraqi production is still pretty volatile, and Gulf Coast production has not recovered fully from Katrina/Rita.

That's about 2 million bpd lost due to geopolitical problems or natural disasters; if you could recover that, you would boost supply considerably. Also, if world oil demand slows due to an economic slowdown or recession there would be even more supply capacity due to the drop in demand and demand growth.
PsychoticDan
05-10-2006, 20:09
It's called the market attempting to reach equilibrium. In this case, the market is uniquely volatile, for many, many reasons supply can shift rapidly, and demand responds rather slowly.

I agree. It's because the market has to react to the new reality that prices will now shift from demand side control to supply side control. The days are over where we will be able to control any major price fluctuations by either opening or closing the tap. From now on we will have very little supply cushion to react to oil shocks in one area of the globe by increasing output in another. We will be perpetually pumping flat out as fast as we can and will be at the mercy of polirtical events and hurricanes.
PsychoticDan
05-10-2006, 20:15
There's between 600,000-700,000 bpd in Nigeria shut in due to attacks, and Venezuelan oil production has fallen by nearly 800,000 bpd since Chavez took power due to problems in the industry and mismanagement by his government. Also, Iraqi production is still pretty volatile, and Gulf Coast production has not recovered fully from Katrina/Rita.

That's about 2 million bpd lost due to geopolitical problems or natural disasters; if you could recover that, you would boost supply considerably. Also, if world oil demand slows due to an economic slowdown or recession there would be even more supply capacity due to the drop in demand and demand growth.

Venezuela has been in decline since 1970. Their oil production is down because they have been in depletion for over 30 years.
Nguyen The Equalizer
05-10-2006, 20:18
That's about 2 million bpd lost due to geopolitical problems or natural disasters; if you could recover that, you would boost supply considerably. Also, if world oil demand slows due to an economic slowdown or recession there would be even more supply capacity due to the drop in demand and demand growth.

I'm not quite in accordance with your figures, but I'll run with it. Even if these problems get ironed out (Nigeria and Venezuala being on the unlikely side), that's still only 2mbpd out of a demand for 80mbpd. Not enough to boost supply considerably. But I appreciate that it would give some breathing space. Not a good ol' lungful, but some.

I totally dig your second point, but many theorists point this out as an inevitable slide into inescapable depression. The market slows, then demand falls, the market picks up, then demand picks up until there is no more elasticity available and depression cannot be overturned by investment/spending.
The Nazz
05-10-2006, 20:22
Yeah, that's a big if there--looking for simultaneous stability in all oil-producing regions seems to me to be a bit of a pipe dream.
Vetalia
05-10-2006, 20:39
Venezuela has been in decline since 1970. Their oil production is down because they have been in depletion for over 30 years.

Really? Wow, I actually didn't know that. Well, that could be a sign of more things to come, especially given the 23% decline since 1999; IIRC, oil depletion occurs at a steeper slope as you move farther from the peak.
PsychoticDan
05-10-2006, 20:43
Really? Wow, I actually didn't know that. Well, that could be a sign of more things to come, especially given the 23% decline since 1999; IIRC, oil depletion occurs at a steeper slope as you move farther from the peak.

The first commercial drilling of oil in 1917 and the oil boom of the 1920s brought to a close the coffee era and eventually transformed the nation from a relatively poor agrarian society into Latin America's wealthiest state. By 1928 Venezuela was the world's leading exporter of oil and its second in total petroleum production. Venezuela remained the world's leading oil exporter until 1970, the year of its peak oil production.
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+ve0037)
Vetalia
05-10-2006, 20:45
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+ve0037)

Link doesn't work. But still, that's very surprising especially given how much oil they export to the US.
Andaluciae
05-10-2006, 20:54
I agree. It's because the market has to react to the new reality that prices will now shift from demand side control to supply side control. The days are over where we will be able to control any major price fluctuations by either opening or closing the tap. From now on we will have very little supply cushion to react to oil shocks in one area of the globe by increasing output in another. We will be perpetually pumping flat out as fast as we can and will be at the mercy of polirtical events and hurricanes.

Well, there are some ways we could up supply a bit, such as having the incompetent mismanagement of the Venezuelan oil wells end, or some delightful things like restoring order in Nigeria, and getting the Middle East not to suck.
PsychoticDan
05-10-2006, 21:26
Well, there are some ways we could up supply a bit, such as having the incompetent mismanagement of the Venezuelan oil wells end, or some delightful things like restoring order in Nigeria, and getting the Middle East not to suck.

But we need to focus on things that are actually possible.
Nguyen The Equalizer
05-10-2006, 21:30
But we need to focus on things that are actually possible.

You're still aiming too high.