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http://www.drudgereport.com/flashmfa.htm

If this holds up, I may owe Foley an apology for thinking he's a child molester (at least with respect to this particular page).

The Ass-o-crat Party, on the other hand, may owe the country an apology for trying to pull yet another last-minute smear and con-job ala Dan Rather in 2004. :p

Hehe ... oops! ;)

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashmfa.htm

If this holds up, I may owe Foley an apology for thinking he's a child molester (at least with respect to this particular page).

The Ass-o-crat Party, on the other hand, may owe the country an apology for trying to pull yet another last-minute smear and con-job ala Dan Rather in 2004. :p

Interesting. One does wonder, however, if this is the case, why Foley didn't just say, "The kid was 18, an adult, it was consensual, now buzz off." Instead he resigned and drove straight to the nearest rehab facility, pausing first to have a news conference and say he'd been molested himself by a priest when he was a kid.

As for apologies owed, both parties are even on that score. And I recall, during the Dan Rather faked memoes flap, that the colonel's secretary said in an interview that yes, the memoes were fake, but that what they said was definitely the colonel's opinion of George Bush.

Besides, Foley's foibles are probably Clinton's fault anyway. :p

NOt that I trust the Drudge Report but I'm always suspicious of "Gotcha!" headlines especially right before an election. Even if the whole thing is true as originally reported, this, IMO is the DNC's "October Surprise".

*sniff* ah yes the bias in the liberal media conspiracy theory.

Ok so you have one instance. I don't know the laws of DC but there is also intent. If he knew it was an 18 year old then it is end of story. If he thought he was younger....

It still doesn't over look the fact for other his other actions with other pages. Never mind the fact it appears his actions were known for 2 years.

Interesting. One does wonder, however, if this is the case, why Foley didn't just say, "The kid was 18, an adult, it was consensual, now buzz off." Instead he resigned and drove straight to the nearest rehab facility, pausing first to have a news conference and say he'd been molested himself by a priest when he was a kid.

He was drunk. *nods*

He was drunk. *nods*

Oh, okay, well that's alright then. Please, go about your lives, sorry to have bothered you.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashmfa.htm

If this holds up, I may owe Foley an apology for thinking he's a child molester (at least with respect to this particular page).

The Ass-o-crat Party, on the other hand, may owe the country an apology for trying to pull yet another last-minute smear and con-job ala Dan Rather in 2004. :p

So, Foley didn't tell everyone he was 18 because? Also Drudge report is infamous for talking out of his ass. Anyone else remember the supposed Kerry sex scandal Drudge made up?

Oh, okay, well that's alright then. Please, go about your lives, sorry to have bothered you.

Well now, unfortunately, if this drudge report be true, now Foley's gonna have to deal with his Party on being a homosexual. Which is worse.

The Party will rally behind him and talk about how he needs help, not persecution, when he's a pedophile ... but if he's gay? Oh forget it!

Well now, unfortunately, if this drudge report be true, now Foley's gonna have to deal with his Party on being a homosexual. Which is worse.

The Party will rally behind him and talk about how he needs help, not persecution, when he's a pedophile ... but if he's gay? Oh forget it!

And I'm sure the Speaker's not going to forgive him anytime too soon for causing this big a mess six weeks before the election, when the Republicans are already biting their nails.

you are forgetting one thing, when this started that kid was a junior, as all the pages are, in High School. 17.
Doesn't matter if he turned 18 in the interim, he was still 17 when it started.

Edit- let us not forget the ethics of the situation either. The congress and its members are supposed to act as surrogate parents while the program is going on.

What a stupid thread. So ONE of the guys Foley had an exchange with was over 18. Hell, I'm sure Foley has sucked plenty of 18 year old page dick in the years he's been in the house. The first exchange reported was CLEARLY a minor and was CLEARLY uncomfortable with the exchange. It's also CLEAR that pages were warning each other about this guy for years. The Republican leadership in the House was CLEARLY aware of the problem and CLEARLY did nothing except to tell the page program to warn the kids.

It's amazing How you cheerleaders reach. You're not republicans. You're demogogues.

What a stupid thread. So ONE of the guys Foley had an exchange with was over 18. Hell, I'm sure Foley has sucked plenty of 18 year old page dick in the years he's been in the house. The first exchange reported was CLEARLY a minor and was CLEARLY uncomfortable with the exchange. It's also CLEAR that pages were warning each other about this guy for years. The Republican leadership in the House was CLEARLY aware of the problem and CLEARLY did nothing except to tell the page program to warn the kids.

It's amazing How you cheerleaders reach. You're not republicans. You're demogogues.

QFT

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashmfa.htm

If this holds up, I may owe Foley an apology for thinking he's a child molester (at least with respect to this particular page).

The Ass-o-crat Party, on the other hand, may owe the country an apology for trying to pull yet another last-minute smear and con-job ala Dan Rather in 2004. :p

So the dregs report (named after its target demographic) is trying to pretend that if one of the pages this pederast harassed was 18, the democrats owe the country an apology?

Non sequitur, maybe instead that fatassed pederast slob dennis hastert should resign.

OK, so he's still colossally stupid...and that doesn't mean he wasn't doing this with any under-18 people...and these people were pages, so both Foley and the pages should have known better.

The better question is how the Democrats are going to manage to screw up the 2006 midterm elections the way they screwed up the last three...

OK, so he's still colossally stupid...and that doesn't mean he wasn't doing this with any under-18 people...and these people were pages, so both Foley and the pages should have known better.

The better question is how the Democrats are going to manage to screw up the 2006 midterm elections the way they screwed up the last three...

IT'll depend on the GOP's "October Surprise" and the DNC's reaction to it. OBL captured? Gas Price average below $2?

OK, so he's still colossally stupid...and that doesn't mean he wasn't doing this with any under-18 people...and these people were pages, so both Foley and the pages should have known better.

The better question is how the Democrats are going to manage to screw up the 2006 midterm elections the way they screwed up the last three...


Blaming the victim? How very party line of you. They cannot actually be considered adults to vote, but they can be to be hit upon by a dirty old man who sits in a position of authority above them.
I would of have loved to see what you were saying about Lewinsky. She was definately of age, she was a girl and Foley railed against Clinton over his inappropiate abuse of power.

18 is a very amiguos date it was still wrong what he did you could still get introuble at the work place for engaging in such activites with a subordanet.

QFT

What does QFT mean? :confused:

Blaming the victim? How very party line of you. They cannot actually be considered adults to vote, but they can be to be hit upon by a dirty old man who sits in a position of authority above them.
I would of have loved to see what you were saying about Lewinsky. She was definately of age, she was a girl and Foley railed against Clinton over his inappropiate abuse of power.

Clinton and Lewinsky were both stupid, yes. Lewinsky was of age, and both of them should have been taken out behind the White House and had big buckets of ice water dumped on them, and they then should have been forced to wear "I'm a Fuck Head" T-shirts for one well-publicized day. Impeachment was a bit much. Censure and public ridicule should have been enough. And I'm not entirely sure why he was asked under oath if he had any relations with her.

Also, the pages seemed to hit on Foley right back. That's why I say they should have known better. If they had said, "Get lost, perv," then we would be commending them for this, and the story would have broken much sooner than it did. The fact that it stayed covered up for this long leads to the belief that they were in on it as well.

Also, don't even consider calling me a "party line" Republican. I think Foley's an idiot, Hastert should be flogged or at least pressured into resigning entirely from the House (not re-electing him is also OK, as if that will happen) and I can honestly say I've never voted for a Republican I am aware of. Me a party-line Republican? That's...excuse me, it's not quite as funny as the crack-addict who attacked a couple with a pooper scooper, but it's still pretty high-larious.

What does QFT mean? :confused:

Quoted For Truth.

But in a story about Mark Foley, it could also mean, Quit Fondling Teens. ;)

Also, the pages seemed to hit on Foley right back. That's why I say they should have known better. If they had said, "Get lost, perv," then we would be commending them for this, and the story would have broken much sooner than it did. The fact that it stayed covered up for this long leads to the belief that they were in on it as well.

Bullshit. These are kids suddenly running around in teh halls of power. When you read this exchange it's clear that this kid is uncomfortable. It feels disgusting to read and I think this kid was just completely unsure how to act.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/BrianRoss/story?id=2509586&page=1

Foley tells him to "take it out" and he says his mom is yelling. I doubt it. He was probably just completely freaked out. He comes right back on and says he has to go. Look at this exchange: (from a person who is verified as uunder 18)

Maf54 (7:46:33 PM): did any girl give you a haand job this weekend



Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:38 PM): lol no



Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:40 PM): im single right now



Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:57 PM): my last gf and i broke up a few weeks agi



Maf54 (7:47:11 PM): are you



Maf54 (7:47:11 PM): good so your getting horny



Xxxxxxxxx (7:47:29 PM): lol…a bit



Maf54 (7:48:00 PM): did you spank it this weekend yourself



Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:04 PM): no



Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:16 PM): been too tired and too busy



Maf54 (7:48:33 PM): wow…



Maf54 (7:48:34 PM): i am never to busy haha



Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:51 PM): haha



Maf54 (7:50:02 PM): or tired..helps me sleep



Xxxxxxxxx (7:50:15 PM): thats true



Xxxxxxxxx (7:50:36 PM): havent been having a problem with sleep though.. i just walk in the door and collapse well at least this weekend



Maf54 (7:50:56 PM): i am sure



Xxxxxxxxx (7:50:57 PM): i dont do it very often normally though



Maf54 (7:51:11 PM): why not



Maf54 (7:51:22 PM): at your age seems like it would be daily



Xxxxxxxxx (7:51:57 PM): not me



Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:01 PM): im not a horn dog



Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:07 PM): maybe 2 or 3 times a week

To me the kid just doesn't want to talk about jacking off with Foley. Everyone here knows no 15-17 year old guy jacks off 2 or 3 times a week. More like a day. It's a disgusting exchange.

Although, after having read through it, I can see why the Democrats are going to have to apologize to America.

Quoted For Truth.

But in a story about Mark Foley, it could also mean, Quit Fondling Teens. ;)

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

Quoted For Truth.

But in a story about Mark Foley, it could also mean, Quit Fondling Teens. ;)

yet another keyboard lost to the goofball.


As for this recent development, I have a few problems with it.
First, it isn't on a legit news source as far as I've seen.
Second, this isn't proof that there wern't other times that it happened. Pretty damning evidence that he resigned under the allegations and went to rehab rather than fight to reveal the "truth" isn't it?
Also, I was under the impression that there was more than one boy...am I just making that up?

Also, the pages seemed to hit on Foley right back. That's why I say they should have known better. If they had said, "Get lost, perv," then we would be commending them for this, and the story would have broken much sooner than it did. The fact that it stayed covered up for this long leads to the belief that they were in on it as well.


it doesnt matter if the interns didnt have the strength of character to tell a congressman to go to hell. it doesnt matter if most of those he harrassed in email preferred to just delete them and block further communication rather than going to the authorities. it doesnt even matter if they WANTED the attention from an older powerful man or even if it turns out that some of them initiated it. all that matters is that FOLEY is the adult, he is the man in the power position, HE is the one who was told to knock it off. the wrong is on his part and he deserves the disgrace he is getting now.

the reason it has been covered up until now is that the republican leadership didnt want to rock the boat. they preferred to protect the powerful man instead of the vulnerable pages. foley should have been driven out of congress years ago. at the very least his constituents should have known so that they could have decided whether or not to keep him in office.

*snip* Although, after having read through it, I can see why the Democrats are going to have to apologize to America.

The apology the Democratic Party owes America is one for allowing themselves to be pushed around and bullied by the Neo-Conservatives in the Republican Party, and for not having the guts to stand up to them.

yet another keyboard lost to the goofball.


As for this recent development, I have a few problems with it.
First, it isn't on a legit news source as far as I've seen.
Second, this isn't proof that there wern't other times that it happened. Pretty damning evidence that he resigned under the allegations and went to rehab rather than fight to reveal the "truth" isn't it?
Also, I was under the impression that there was more than one boy...am I just making that up?

There were quit a few. The story is about two different things. One, the kid who was definatly underage may have had his identity compromised by bad website management at ABC. Two, a completely different kid who had a cybersex episode with Foley and who stayed in a hotel with Foley in San Diego at least once may have been 18 when he had the cyberex with Foley during a House session in which Foley put off a vote on the floor so he could go to the bathroom where the two of them could have their cyber trist and describe their orgasms together. It is still unclear if the boy was 18 when he stayed in the hotel with Foley, though. Having said that, the Democrats really do need to aplogize to America for this whole thing.

So the dregs report (named after its target demographic) is trying to pretend that if one of the pages this pederast harassed was 18, the democrats owe the country an apology?

Thank you for using the right term. It really tends to muddy the waters when people describe something like this as "pedophilia".

it doesnt matter if the interns didnt have the strength of character to tell a congressman to go to hell. it doesnt matter if most of those he harrassed in email preferred to just delete them and block further communication rather than going to the authorities. it doesnt even matter if they WANTED the attention from an older powerful man or even if it turns out that some of them initiated it. all that matters is that FOLEY is the adult, he is the man in the power position, HE is the one who was told to knock it off. the wrong is on his part and he deserves the disgrace he is getting now.

the reason it has been covered up until now is that the republican leadership didnt want to rock the boat. they preferred to protect the powerful man instead of the vulnerable pages. foley should have been driven out of congress years ago. at the very least his constituents should have known so that they could have decided whether or not to keep him in office.

I am not here to argue that Foley isn't a disgusting pervert who should get far worse than what he's getting. He should know better. There's really not an excuse for this. I am here to argue, however, that it's not as simple as labeling the pages as victims. It's not as if Foley forced them to talk to him...though if he did, they are victims. From what I can tell, though, that didn't actually happen. Therefore, the pages need a bit of a lesson in common sense. Nothing as harsh as what Foley should get, but let's just say it might be best if they didn't stay on as pages. That's all.

On the other hand, if there's any justice, Foley's next job will be as fry cook at McDonald's. And he will be told to keep his grubby mitts to himself. And they will make sure he does.

Having said that, the Democrats really do need to aplogize to America for this whole thing.

The Democrats need to apologize for the actions of a Republican? Or for making said actions public?

The Democrats need to apologize for the actions of a Republican? Or for making said actions public?

of course they do. its all bill clintons fault

I am not here to argue that Foley isn't a disgusting pervert who should get far worse than what he's getting. He should know better. There's really not an excuse for this. I am here to argue, however, that it's not as simple as labeling the pages as victims. It's not as if Foley forced them to talk to him...though if he did, they are victims. From what I can tell, though, that didn't actually happen. Therefore, the pages need a bit of a lesson in common sense. Nothing as harsh as what Foley should get, but let's just say it might be best if they didn't stay on as pages. That's all.

On the other hand, if there's any justice, Foley's next job will be as fry cook at McDonald's. And he will be told to keep his grubby mitts to himself. And they will make sure he does.

What he did was to uise his position of power to gratify his sexual urges through pages who were probably afraid to react by saying, "go fuck yourself." Read my post, click the link and read the exchange and tell me you think this kid was a willing participant. He was completely freaked out but afriad to be rude. Foley knew that but it didn't matter. Once he got to the point where he had only one hand on the keyboard he wasn't letting this kid off the line until he'd soiled the screen. That's why the Democrats are going to have to apologize for this whole thing.

The Democrats need to apologize for the actions of a Republican? Or for making said actions public?

because it was the Democrats who held the presidency during the Iran hostage crisis. If that hadn't happened during their watch, Foley wouldn't molest children.

because it was the Democrats who held the presidency during the Iran hostage crisis. If that hadn't happened during their watch, Foley wouldn't molest children.

Ah, I see now....

Wait....

*confoozled*

What he did was to uise his position of power to gratify his sexual urges through pages who were probably afraid to react by saying, "go fuck yourself." Read my post, click the link and read the exchange and tell me you think this kid was a willing participant. He was completely freaked out but afriad to be rude. Foley knew that but it didn't matter. Once he got to the point where he had only one hand on the keyboard he wasn't letting this kid off the line until he'd soiled the screen. That's why the Democrats are going to have to apologize for this whole thing.

OK, so that guy was unwilling. He could still have easily told him to go fuck himself. A Congressman would be very concerned about his reputation, and if the page knows he's a Congressman, that could be a disaster for Mr. Foley. That or he's not quite sure how to handle assholes over the internet. If that's the case, he needs to take a class on how to do so or whatever.

Also, I fail to see how this is the Democrats' fault.

The mayor of my town was Jim West, and as you may know, he was another republican who was having frequent trysts with young boys, though at least he had the tact to wait until they were just barely 18. The inappropriateness of this still got him kicked out of office, especially since he was well known for supporting anti-gay policies and legislation, so his attempts to go to the gay community for help were not well met. I guess the point is that this seems like an epidemic among republicans recently.

because it was the Democrats who held the presidency during the Iran hostage crisis. If that hadn't happened during their watch, Foley wouldn't molest children.

**looks closely at PsychoticDan's face for a tongue firmly in cheek**

A network source explains, messages with the young man and disgraced former Congressman Foley took place before and after the 18th birthday.

What part of that was not in English?

Besides, what about the 16-year-old page? It's not like the fact that one page was over 18 at one point in their "relationship" excuses it all.

OK, so that guy was unwilling. He could still have easily told him to go fuck himself. A Congressman would be very concerned about his reputation, and if the page knows he's a Congressman, that could be a disaster for Mr. Foley. That or he's not quite sure how to handle assholes over the internet. If that's the case, he needs to take a class on how to do so or whatever.Sure. Some kids are strong enough to stand up for themselves. When I was 16 I did a stint in Juvenile Hall because a couple friends and I ransacked this guy's apartment and stole a bunch of stuff from him because he told us he wanted to have sex with us. Some kids are NOT that strong. This guy was a US Congressman. This was a kid who didn't know how to react and who obvioulsy felt uncomfortable. He should NEVER have had to be put in that position and, since it is becoming very clear that the Republican leaderhip in the House knew about this guy for years, I DEMAND that the Democrats apologize for all of this.

Also, I fail to see how this is the Democrats' fault.

It is the Democrats that keep lobbying for clean air and water legislation. Clean air and water have been shown in study after study to cause gay men to molest children.

It is the Democrats that keep lobbying for clean air and water legislation. Clean air and water have been shown in study after study to cause gay men to molest children.

I like the cut of your jib. You're hired!

What part of that was not in English?

Besides, what about the 16-year-old page? It's not like the fact that one page was over 18 at one point in their "relationship" excuses it all.

Of course it does, when you apply the same logic that says man's actions are not causing global warming.

I like the cut of your jib. You're hired!

Well, like the OP pointed out:

[url]The Ass-o-crat Party, on the other hand, may owe the country an apology for trying to pull yet another last-minute smear and con-job ala Dan Rather in 2004. :p

The real story is not that the page was an adult, (Republicans still resign in shame for far less) but that ABC deliberately misreported its October Surprise. The Dems relied again on their media monopoly and the presumed supidity and short memories of the public. Once more the major media is caught red handed by the bloggosphere and Drudge. Hastert was handed a batch of suspicious but totally legal E mails. He actually went beyond his authority in ordering Foley to cease e mailing pages. The media and the Democrat Leadership sat on the damning IMs which were infinitely worse than the emails until the last day Congress was in session so Nancy Pelosi et. al. could express their moral indignation on the evening news before heading home to campaign. Already the public are figuring out that the only ones with the real goods on Foley were the Democrats and Media who sat on them until they could inflict maximum harm with minimal time for the truth to get out. The public can understand the difference between emails and the much later IMs. They can also remember the last 3 Democrat sex scandals: Barney Frank who is still serving though he let his young lover run a gay bordello in his basement, Studds who rejected censure for his real sexual relationship w/ a male page and recieved 3 standing ovations before serving 13 more years and the Illinois congressman who made the mistake of commiting his offenses in his home district where he could be prosecuted but was of course pardoned by Clinton. This one is destined to blow up in the Dems faces. We know a set up when we see one.

The real story is not that the page was an adult, (Republicans still resign in shame for far less) but that ABC deliberately misreported its October Surprise. The Dems relied again on their media monopoly and the presumed supidity and short memories of the public. Once more the major media is caught red handed by the bloggosphere and Drudge. Hastert was handed a batch of suspicious but totally legal E mails. He actually went beyond his authority in ordering Foley to cease e mailing pages. The media and the Democrat Leadership sat on the damning IMs which were infinitely worse than the emails until the last day Congress was in session so Nancy Pelosi et. al. could express their moral indignation on the evening news before heading home to campaign. Already the public are figuring out that the only ones with the real goods on Foley were the Democrats and Media who sat on them until they could inflict maximum harm with minimal time for the truth to get out. The public can understand the difference between emails and the much later IMs. They can also remember the last 3 Democrat sex scandals: Barney Frank who is still serving though he let his young lover run a gay bordello in his basement, Studds who rejected censure for his real sexual relationship w/ a male page and recieved 3 standing ovations before serving 13 more years and the Illinois congressman who made the mistake of commiting his offenses in his home district where he could be prosecuted but was of course pardoned by Clinton. This one is destined to blow up in the Dems faces. We know a set up when we see one.

Missed the reading comprehension classes in gradeschool, eh? Sorry about that. Try readin the story again slowly. Maybe if you try to diagram the sentences? Here, try these for help:

There were quit a few. The story is about two different things. One, the kid who was definatly underage may have had his identity compromised by bad website management at ABC. Two, a completely different kid who had a cybersex episode with Foley and who stayed in a hotel with Foley in San Diego at least once may have been 18 when he had the cyberex with Foley during a House session in which Foley put off a vote on the floor so he could go to the bathroom where the two of them could have their cyber trist and describe their orgasms together. It is still unclear if the boy was 18 when he stayed in the hotel with Foley, though. Having said that, the Democrats really do need to aplogize to America for this whole thing.

Here's a bit of an exchange with a kid who was definately under the age of 18. Let me know what the Dems are going to have to apologize for:

Maf54 (8:03:47 PM): what you wearing



Xxxxxxxxx (8:04:04 PM): normal clothes



Xxxxxxxxx (8:04:09 PM): tshirt and shorts



Maf54 (8:04:17 PM): um so a big buldge



Xxxxxxxxx (8:04:35 PM): ya



Maf54 (8:04:45 PM): um



Maf54 (8:04:58 PM): love to slip them off of you



Xxxxxxxxx (8:05:08 PM): haha



Maf54 (8:05:53 PM): and gram the one eyed snake



Maf54 (8:06:13 PM): grab

Nice to see you laying waste to the place and everything, PsychoticDan. Glad you're on the case.

...

I was going to do a point by point rebuttal, but why bother. You're either a troll or someone's puppet. No one could be that completely clueless without actively trying.

Missed the reading comprehension classes in gradeschool, eh? Sorry about that. Try readin the story again slowly. Maybe if you try to diagram the sentences? Here, try these for help:



Here's a bit of an exchange with a kid who was definately under the age of 18. Let me know what the Dems are going to have to apologize for:

...

Wow, not only is he a dirty old man, exploiting those subordinate to him, including the underaged in many cases, but he's also horrible at cybersex.

The real story is not that the page was an adult, (Republicans still resign in shame for far less) but that ABC deliberately misreported its October Surprise. The Dems relied again on their media monopoly and the presumed supidity and short memories of the public. Once more the major media is caught red handed by the bloggosphere and Drudge. Hastert was handed a batch of suspicious but totally legal E mails. He actually went beyond his authority in ordering Foley to cease e mailing pages. The media and the Democrat Leadership sat on the damning IMs which were infinitely worse than the emails until the last day Congress was in session so Nancy Pelosi et. al. could express their moral indignation on the evening news before heading home to campaign. Already the public are figuring out that the only ones with the real goods on Foley were the Democrats and Media who sat on them until they could inflict maximum harm with minimal time for the truth to get out. The public can understand the difference between emails and the much later IMs. They can also remember the last 3 Democrat sex scandals: Barney Frank who is still serving though he let his young lover run a gay bordello in his basement, Studds who rejected censure for his real sexual relationship w/ a male page and recieved 3 standing ovations before serving 13 more years and the Illinois congressman who made the mistake of commiting his offenses in his home district where he could be prosecuted but was of course pardoned by Clinton. This one is destined to blow up in the Dems faces. We know a set up when we see one.

So the democrats, if I am to believe your recounting of the facts, pulled off a little bit of political theater. Is a month not long enough to learn the truth (well, maybe if the suspect locks himself in rehab for that month.) Isn't that something that the republicans do with every breath, step, and word? Is this all somehow the democrats' fault because they waited for the opportune moment to make a big reveal?

Where'd teh OP and that other new dude go? :confused:

Where'd teh OP and that other new dude go? :confused:

Uh ooohhh ... :eek:

When the liberal media makes such a ghastly mistake in calling him a child molester, it gets by more or less unnoticed. When the centrist media accidentally replaced a "R" with a "D," it gets splashed all over.

When the liberal media makes such a ghastly mistake in calling him a child molester, it gets by more or less unnoticed. When the centrist media accidentally replaced a "R" with a "D," it gets splashed all over.
actually, the "liberal" media didn't so much make a mistake, beyond accidentally revealing the screen name of one of the boys, who, during that particular IM exchange, was 18. That ignores that there were other boys, as well as other exchanges with that boy, both before and after his 18th birthday.

In other words, Foley is still a pervert, and still broke the law. Just not in the IM that had the screen name revealed.

Oh, and the entire issue of ethics, in which a congressman should not be in a relationship with a page...

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashmfa.htm

If this holds up, I may owe Foley an apology for thinking he's a child molester (at least with respect to this particular page).

The Ass-o-crat Party, on the other hand, may owe the country an apology for trying to pull yet another last-minute smear and con-job ala Dan Rather in 2004. :p
Me no speeka da jerkahole?

When the liberal media makes such a ghastly mistake in calling him a child molester, it gets by more or less unnoticed. When the centrist media accidentally replaced a "R" with a "D," it gets splashed all over.

It's funny how these people see what they want to see. The article is VERY clear - unless it doesn't say what you want it to say. I guess then you make it say that the Dems framed an innocent man rather than what it actually says which is, of course, that the underaged page that Foley tried to get to have cybersex with him with juicy bits like this:

Maf54 (8:03:47 PM): what you wearing



Xxxxxxxxx (8:04:04 PM): normal clothes



Xxxxxxxxx (8:04:09 PM): tshirt and shorts



Maf54 (8:04:17 PM): um so a big buldge



Xxxxxxxxx (8:04:35 PM): ya



Maf54 (8:04:45 PM): um



Maf54 (8:04:58 PM): love to slip them off of you



Xxxxxxxxx (8:05:08 PM): haha



Maf54 (8:05:53 PM): and gram the one eyed snake



Maf54 (8:06:13 PM): grab May have had his identity compromised by shoddy website management by ABC and in a completely seperate incident a completely different page who stayed in a hotel with Foley on at least one occasion may have been 18 when he and Foley had cybersex while Foley was supposed to have been voting on the floor. Neither of these instances have anything to do with all the other incidents that are now coming out and that it is now clear that Hastert and the Republican leadership knew Foley was a pedarast and did nothing to protect the pages, but that doesn't matter.

When the liberal media makes such a ghastly mistake in calling him a child molester, it gets by more or less unnoticed. When the centrist media accidentally replaced a "R" with a "D," it gets splashed all over.

There is no such thing as the liberal media! Name one liberal network other than Air America!

actually, the "liberal" media didn't so much make a mistake, beyond accidentally revealing the screen name of one of the boys, who, during that particular IM exchange, was 18. That ignores that there were other boys, as well as other exchanges with that boy, both before and after his 18th birthday.

Two seperate people. The one who may have been compromised was under 18. The one who may be 18 is a different person. The kid, the one who's IM convo with Foley broke the case, was under 18 and that is not in doubt.

The real story is not that the page was an adult, (Republicans still resign in shame for far less) but that ABC deliberately misreported its October Surprise. The Dems relied again on their media monopoly and the presumed supidity and short memories of the public. Once more the major media is caught red handed by the bloggosphere and Drudge. Hastert was handed a batch of suspicious but totally legal E mails. He actually went beyond his authority in ordering Foley to cease e mailing pages. The media and the Democrat Leadership sat on the damning IMs which were infinitely worse than the emails until the last day Congress was in session so Nancy Pelosi et. al. could express their moral indignation on the evening news before heading home to campaign. Already the public are figuring out that the only ones with the real goods on Foley were the Democrats and Media who sat on them until they could inflict maximum harm with minimal time for the truth to get out. The public can understand the difference between emails and the much later IMs. They can also remember the last 3 Democrat sex scandals: Barney Frank who is still serving though he let his young lover run a gay bordello in his basement, Studds who rejected censure for his real sexual relationship w/ a male page and recieved 3 standing ovations before serving 13 more years and the Illinois congressman who made the mistake of commiting his offenses in his home district where he could be prosecuted but was of course pardoned by Clinton. This one is destined to blow up in the Dems faces. We know a set up when we see one.

Did you bother to read the drudgereport article? Apparently you didn't, because the assertion is that the pages conned Foley into making the IM messages and then deliberately leaked them to their friends, and from this leaking it fell into the hands of Democratic operatives. Now I ask you, friend, what kind of motard can be convinced to send IMs to a 17-year old describing his masturbation habits? I'm fairly stupid sometimes, and I have a habit for doing things that in retrospect are monumentally stupid, but I would never, ever do something like this. In point of fact, you would have to be the heir to the throne of a kingdom of idiots to even consider doing something like this.

Put simply, you and Drudge are apparently arguing that Foley is not guilty, but so colossally, stupendously, blockheadedly stupid that he would deliberately post Instant Messages that would in a whiff completely destroy his career, his credibility as a man and as a legislator, and possibly put him in prison as a sexual predator? Pardon me if I suggest that the Democrats might not be the one's pulling a fast one.

Put simply, you and Drudge are apparently arguing that Foley is not guilty, but so colossally, stupendously, blockheadedly stupid that he would deliberately post Instant Messages that would in a whiff completely destroy his career, his credibility as a man and as a legislator, and possibly put him in prison as a sexual predator? Pardon me if I suggest that the Democrats might not be the one's pulling a fast one.

Couldn't it be all of them? Guilty, stupid, an w/ some enhancement by the DNC? That seems the most logical to me.

Couldn't it be all of them? Guilty, stupid, an w/ some enhancement by the DNC? That seems the most logical to me.

My response is a simple "He who asserts must prove."

When I see evidence that the DNC massaged the data, I'll reevaluate my thinking on Foley. Until then, a few unnamed sources cited by Matt Drudge as evidence of a hack job does not conclusive certainty provide.

My response is a simple "He who asserts must prove."

When I see evidence that the DNC massaged the data, I'll reevaluate my thinking on Foley. Until then, a few unnamed sources cited by Matt Drudge as evidence of a hack job does not conclusive certainty provide.

I'm not claiming a "hack job" by the DNC at all. I think the dumbass should be tarred, feathered, and marched through the street. However, I wouldn't put it past any political party to add fuel to the fire whether true or not.

Couldn't it be all of them? Guilty, stupid, an w/ some enhancement by the DNC? That seems the most logical to me.

The orginal email was leaked by the father of the kid to ABC months ago. Since all he did was ask for a picture ABC decided that, although it seemed innapropriate, wasn't something to run with. Last week they received an IM log from several years ago from a then underage page where Foley said he'd like to peel the kid's shorts off and gram the one eye'd snake *grab. Since then all sorts of ex-pages and staffers are coming out saying this has been going on for years and that the Republican leadership has known the whole time that, at the very least, Foley shows inappropriate interest in uderage'd boys. That's the reality. This is not a DNC plot. If Hastert had done what he should have many years ago the Repulicans wouldn't have the problem they do now.

The orginal email was leaked by the father of the kid to ABC months ago. Since all he did was ask for a picture ABC decided that, although it seemed innapropriate, wasn't something to run with. Last week they received an IM log from several years ago from a then underage page where Foley said he'd like to peel the kid's shorts off and gram the one eye'd snake *grab. Since then all sorts of ex-pages and staffers are coming out saying this has been going on for years and that the Republican leadership has known the whole time that, at the very least, Foley shows inappropriate interest in uderage'd boys. That's the reality. This is not a DNC plot. If Hastert had done what he should have many years ago the Repulicans wouldn't have the problem they do now.

Get off your high horse and read my previous post.

Get off your high horse and read my previous post.

Switch to decaf and take a walk once in a while.

Reading the Druged Report seriously is like reading Nietzche for Christian Values.

Get off your high horse and read my previous post.

In response to that post:
The Dems don't need to add fuel to the fire, it's already as big as it can get.
Think of it: Not just a congressman breaking one of the strongest social taboos AND a "sick" one at that, but also the republican party covering for him.
And plus all that, this would break the general image of republican congresspeople, thus putting them out of the monkeysphere and so leaving people unable to emphasize with them.
The Dems can't have hoped for better.

In response to that post:
The Dems don't need to add fuel to the fire, it's already as big as it can get.
Think of it: Not just a congressman breaking one of the strongest social taboos AND a "sick" one at that, but also the republican party covering for him.
And plus all that, this would break the general image of republican congresspeople, thus putting them out of the monkeysphere and so leaving people unable to emphasize with them.
The Dems can't have hoped for better.

Well, there could have been video of the House leadership standing around jerking off while Foley, dressed in an American flag speedo, buttfucked a 16 year old page dressed like the Statue of Liberty while wearing a Dubya mask.

Well, there could have been video of the House leadership standing around jerking off while Foley, dressed in an American flag speedo, buttfucked a 16 year old page dressed like the Statue of Liberty while wearing a Dubya mask.
And we'd still have moron apologists like New Mitani squealing that it's all an evil Liberal media and Democrat plot to discredit GOP, and Eut muttering, "But Clinton...Monica...Clinton...Monica..."

And we'd still have moron apologists like New Mitani squealing that it's all an evil Liberal media and Democrat plot to discredit GOP, and Eut muttering, "But Clinton...Monica...Clinton...Monica..."
Ain't it the truth.

And we'd still have moron apologists like New Mitani squealing that it's all an evil Liberal media and Democrat plot to discredit GOP, and Eut muttering, "But Clinton...Monica...Clinton...Monica..."

Hey, maybe if they think really happy thoughts this scandal will go away and Republicans can go back to the business of screwing the American people.

Hey, maybe if they think really happy thoughts this scandal will go away and Republicans can go back to the business of screwing the American people.

The Republicans would certainly like that to happen, which is why there's such a big push to get rid of Hastert on the inside. As long as he's there, he's the focal point for the story, and the story won't die.

The Republicans would certainly like that to happen, which is why there's such a big push to get rid of Hastert on the inside. As long as he's there, he's the focal point for the story, and the story won't die.

Hopefully it won't. What we need is for this to grow into something that at least approaches what was done with Clinton with that Monica foolishness. Until I see something along those lines I won't be satisfied. Given how what Foley did was much worse than what Clinton did, it shouldn't be to much to ask for.

Hopefully it won't. What we need is for this to grow into something that at least approaches what was done with Clinton with that Monica foolishness. Until I see something along those lines I won't be satisfied. Given how what Foley did was much worse than what Clinton did, it shouldn't be to much to ask for.

Don't count on it skippy, the Democrats are too disorganized and he is a Republican so they will do everything they can to blame the Democrats and Clinton then sweep it under the rug.

Hopefully it won't. What we need is for this to grow into something that at least approaches what was done with Clinton with that Monica foolishness. Until I see something along those lines I won't be satisfied. Given how what Foley did was much worse than what Clinton did, it shouldn't be to much to ask for.

I polla are any indication, Republicans will pay for it (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15142076/) at the ballot box in November.
WASHINGTON - Congressional Republicans, already struggling against negative public perceptions of Congress, now face voters who say new scandals will significantly influence their vote in November.

With midterm elections less than five weeks away, the latest Associated Press-Ipsos poll found that about half of likely voters say recent disclosures of corruption and scandal in Congress will be very or extremely important when they cast their vote next month.

Don't count on it skippy, the Democrats are too disorganized and he is a Republican so they will do everything they can to blame the Democrats and Clinton then sweep it under the rug.

One can dream can't they? Republicans can't continue with their kneejerk reaction of blaming Clinton everytime something goes wrong with them. People should be getting fed up with their excuses by now.

I polla are any indication, Republicans will pay for it (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15142076/) at the ballot box in November.

*crosses fingers*

I'll certainly do my part in November. I doubt Chabot will be displaced but at least Strickland will probably win the governor race.

Might be able to oust DeWine though. :)

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/elections/keyraces/20/

*crosses fingers*

I'll certainly do my part in November. I doubt Chabot will be displaced but at least Strickland will probably win the governor race.
And Sherrod Brown? He's neck and neck with DeWine right now.

And Sherrod Brown? He's neck and neck with DeWine right now.

Link added to previous post. :)

One can dream can't they? Republicans can't continue with their kneejerk reaction of blaming Clinton everytime something goes wrong with them. People should be getting fed up with their excuses by now.

You wanna-bet?
Gas prices go up? Lax Clinton policies.
Deficit goes up? Unemployment goes up? Clinton economic policies.
Republican senator tries to have sex with male pages? Clinton had adulterous sex with an intern.

People will never get fed up with it because it is aimed at the hardcore Republican base that thinks Clinton is the devil, there is a homosexual agenda, Democrats are all goat-sacrificing atheists, and the GOP can do no wrong.

We should just re-elect Clinton every 8 or 16 years so they can blame him for everything during the next Republican cycle.

Hey is this true ?

We know about Clinton getting blow jobs from interns ...but he was the President ..its a benifit hidden in the constitution..Presidents must have interns that will relieve the " pressure " .


But I did warn about Demcrats making too much noise about Foley..

Congressman Barney Frank (D) an admitted gay had a live-in male lover who operated a male prostitution ring right from the Congressman’s apartment. Not only didn’t he resign but he was supported by his fellow Democrats. He has been reelected many times over and now maintains a high position of power in the Democratic cactus.

True or not ?


I believe some years Congressman Gary Stubbs was caught having sexual intercourse with a page. He was censured, but he did not resign, nor was he forced out office until quite some time later he decided to retire at the end of one of his elected terms.

When he was censured for having sex with his male page...not e mails or IM's

He actually had sex witht he kid...he turned his back on the Comittee and the Hipocrats gave him three sTanding ovations .

He didn't waste time with foolish IM 's and Email...he was a man of action and went right to the diddling ! Standing OVATION .

Truth or fiction ?


Hey anyone out there think that Foleys inclinations and actions were a secret in WASHINGTON ?????

I didn't think so ...no ones that stupid. Even here .

Anyone else think that E-mails and IM's are kinda like private communications between two individuals ?

Anyone wonder HOW copies got made ..I can see the E-mails..BUT the IM's

That had to be a deliberate action.

So why were they held on to for so long and for what purpose ?

Could it have been blackmail ? A book deal ? Leverage to get a well paying job ? Or did some political dude pay a page to play and get something to " blow " Foley out of the water ?;)


This being ..you know politics and all...must say being a pedophile and a chickenhawk is kinda UN Republican like behavior...only Democrats and liberals are allowed to indulge freely in that type of behavior...:p


So who here thinks this wasnt a deliberately planned and acted on script thats been in the works for a while and was timed for an October release ???;)


See that Britain we have a whole cukoo's nest of weirdo's and peverts and such all of our own ! We may not have a Parliment but we got the weirdo's ...

They represent both parties .

And we have Teddy Kennedy he 's the leader .


And BTW the backlash against the hippocrats has already started now the FBI will be investigating HOW and WHY the IM's werenot given to or to whom and at what time ...:p Because the E-mails were not enough to hang the guy..BUt Pelosi ...the same lady who endorsed Stubbs the kiddy turd burglar 6 times is screeming like a banshee to try and prevend Freeh from being in the commision set to investigate it..he being the formeer Director of the FBI and a Federal Judge ..:p

for example ...

Why Democrats, yes Democrats should worry about the Foley scandal.
2 October 2006

The Foley scandal presents as a pretty tricky predicament in two critical areas for Democrats-which one may be surprised at given that he was a former Republican.

Conservatives find the behavior exhibited by Foley disgusting, period. Foley knew this which is why he resigned. Did Foley break the law? Yes, but laws that are recent and only speak to the exchange of communication Foley allegedly had with this page. If Foley actually had sex with this page, he would not be prosecuted under Maryland law as the age of consent is in fact 16 years.

In other words, under Maryland law, the only difference between what Foley did and Clinton did, in a strict legal sense, is that the Impeached President actually had sex with an intern, committed adultery and lied about it under oath.

But conservatives hold a higher moral standard, and Republicans know as does Foley apparently, that this behavior even in words is unacceptable which is why he knew he needed to step down.

Let’s re-wind even further to Congressman Studds- a former Massachusetts Congressman back in the 70’s. Studds actually did break Massachusetts law by having sex with a page who was 17 at the time. Did he resign? Was he forced to step down? The former Democrat remained and received a censure with his back turned in an arrogant display of his disregard for the law. Foley breaks the law with words and steps down voluntarily, Studds and Clinton break the law (one by lying under oath, the other by actually having sex with an underage page) and they remain.

The past two years are chock full of Democrats breaking the law-from officials hiding cash in their refrigerators to a complete abuse of prosecutorial powers for political purposes in New York and they remain without so much as an apology.

If the allegations are correct Foley, in my opinion, is an animal who deserves jail time. Problem is Democrats can’t use this to their advantage as a sign of the Republican Party’s moral decay, as this decay is not occurring-in fact the standard is so high that the resignation occurred abruptly and without discussion. On the legal front Democrats may be in bigger trouble which brings me to my next point.

We have heard the screams for the heads of Republican leadership but that has gone down a bit-why? Well the only items Republican leaders had in their possession were emails Foley sent various pages-none containing any sexual material or advances. The IM’s are recent and came out just before an election which does beg the question: Who did know about Foley’s improprieties?

Well Democrats obviously knew. The question is how long did they know? Did they hold this information back until the right political opportunity, like an election, presented itself? Did they risk the innocence of these youth to maximize their political fortunes during an election year?

Hastert has done the Democrats one better than they have asked for-requesting a FBI probe-and it appears an odd silence has come over this issue.

Are the Democrats worried about something here?


Just a smattering of the backfire to come...


GLASS HOUSE / STONES ....NEVER a good Idea ...:rolleyes:


BTW ..I would LOVE to Have Bill back...here's a real guys guy...and I was proud to vote for him instead of Bob Dole who needs VIAGRA for cripes sake !


Who wants and old limp dick for a president ??

Wher's the fun in that !

At least Bill made Blow Jobs not only fashionable , but a practiced art ! Long live clinton !!!!!


Bring the dude back before his blood pressure medicine scews him up dammit !!!

Hey, Ultraextreme Sanity, if you want to have a war about ethics in Washington, bring it baby. Duke Cunningham isn't a Democrat. Robert Ney isn't a Democrat. Tom DeLay isn't a Democrat. Jack Abramoff and David Safavian aren't Democrats. Mark Foley isn't a Democrat (no matter what Fox News says). Dennis Hastert isn't a Democrat. Neither are Tom Reynolds, John Boehner, or John Shimkus. And that's just the House members off the top of my head. I haven't even gotten into either the Senate or the executive.

So by all means, bring it. Right now, all you've got is Bill Jefferson, and he was removed from his Committees by the Democrats. We can't expel him--he has to leave on his own--but we've already inoculated the rest of the Congress from his corruption.

I would loooooove to have this sort of debate, because we'll wipe the floor with you. Why we're more honest at the moment isn't important--what matters is that we are.

Hey, Ultraextreme Sanity, if you want to have a war about ethics in Washington, bring it baby. Duke Cunningham isn't a Democrat. Robert Ney isn't a Democrat. Tom DeLay isn't a Democrat. Jack Abramoff and David Safavian aren't Democrats. Mark Foley isn't a Democrat (no matter what Fox News says). Dennis Hastert isn't a Democrat. Neither are Tom Reynolds, John Boehner, or John Shimkus. And that's just the House members off the top of my head. I haven't even gotten into either the Senate or the executive.

So by all means, bring it. Right now, all you've got is Bill Jefferson, and he was removed from his Committees by the Democrats. We can't expel him--he has to leave on his own--but we've already inoculated the rest of the Congress from his corruption.

I would loooooove to have this sort of debate, because we'll wipe the floor with you. Why we're more honest at the moment isn't important--what matters is that we are.


Nazzz ...they are all in politics and NONE of them are clean.

But instead of taliking about ..the WAR ..the economy...the NSA...patriot act ...how to defend the US...taxes..you KNOW real substance...


We have dudes out making list now of who has the most GAY people on thier staff...THATS the new big story ...:p :p :p

LIKE GTF out of here ???

This country is one huge JOKE and you want to talk about ethics in WASHINGTON.


Thats the BIGGEST fucking joke I have heard all day...


Let me finish making my popcorn so I can get back to the real entertainment by the dumpumlickcans and the hippocrats.:rolleyes:


Who needs a war when you git sex and gayness as THE issue ...:rolleyes:

Wars boring ...taxes are boring..terrorist are boring...NSA spying is VERY boring...the economy...boring....

SEX BABY...we want sex !!!

Naked male pages and gay orgies...live on cable tv !

Now thats the way to run a government !



OOOOPS I missed the " we " part about honest and who is " more " honest....


The search for an honest man ...ther's a giggle...in Washington.....

You are even funnier than the rest of them ...and your actually seriouse !!!


Ted Kennedy wants you to give him a call.

Ah..yes. Their party has done something unconsciousable. So instead of dealing with it, the best course of action is to fling mud at the opposing side.

And the dems having dirty laundry in the past means what, exactly?
That the Dems should stay silent on any and every criminal breach by GOP?
Is that what you're suggesting? Cause so far I've yet to see you say anything other than, "But the dems...Clinton...Monica...Teddy...dirty". Thus it's easy to infer that you care little about the case in question and more about using it to attack the dems.
Great set of priorities there.

I guess this is what you'd prefer them to do:
"Hey, GOP has a kiddy-diddler in their midst! Should we out him?"
"No way! One of our guys did something bad 30 years ago, it wouldn't be right. We'd look like such hypocrites! Best thing to do is ignore it and let him keep fiddling his 16 year-old pages. That's a much better idea."

GLASS HOUSE / STONES ....NEVER a good Idea ...:rolleyes:
Quite.

Nazzz ...they are all in politics and NONE of them are clean.

But instead of taliking about ..the WAR ..the economy...the NSA...patriot act ...how to defend the US...taxes..you KNOW real substance...
What? You mean the way they were all major talking points by GOP at the last presidential election, and not - for example - what happened in a boat up a river in Asia 35 years ago?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall you wanting to rant more about that than anything else 2 years ago.

What? You mean the way they were all major talking points by GOP at the last presidential election, and not - for example - what happened in a boat up a river in Asia 35 years ago?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall you wanting to rant more about that than anything else 2 years ago.


Thats relevant because KERRY was making himself into a WARRIOR to try to undamage his old hippy image..in fact it was SUBSTANCE 100 % ...when you take into acount the facts vs the fiction from Kerry...

Common you can make a better point cant you ?

The character issue between a hippy and a turncoat, soldiers accused as being all murders and rapist dude VS a Former maybe national Guard dude who may have snorted some coke and been a party boy , had to be addressed in an election for president .


Pop corns almost done now .

want me to save you some ?

Hey is this true ?

We know about Clinton getting blow jobs from interns ...but he was the President ..its a benifit hidden in the constitution..Presidents must have interns that will relieve the " pressure " .


Lewinsky was a legal adult.

Congressman Barney Frank (D) an admitted gay had a live-in male lover who operated a male prostitution ring right from the Congressman’s apartment. Not only didn’t he resign but he was supported by his fellow Democrats. He has been reelected many times over and now maintains a high position of power in the Democratic cactus.

Barney Frank's lover was a legal adult, and when Frank found out about the prostitution, he kicked him out.

I believe some years Congressman Gary Stubbs was caught having sexual intercourse with a page. He was censured, but he did not resign, nor was he forced out office until quite some time later he decided to retire at the end of one of his elected terms.

Gerry Studds DID admit to having a relationship with a page (which was the reason he was censured). Both he and the page attended a press conference where they stated that AS THE PAGE WAS OF LEGAL AGE the affair was nobody's business but their own.


Do you start to see a pattern here that does not exist with the various underage pages that Foley interacted with?

Do you start to see a pattern here that does not exist with the various underage pages that Foley interacted with?
IOKIYAR

IOKIYAR

I had to go look that one up... but LOL!

Thats relevant because KERRY was making himself into a WARRIOR to try to undamage his old hippy image..in fact it was SUBSTANCE 100 % ...when you take into acount the facts vs the fiction from Kerry...

Common you can make a better point cant you ?

The character issue between a hippy and a turncoat, soldiers accused as being all murders and rapist dude VS a Former maybe national Guard dude who may have snorted some coke and been a party boy , had to be addressed in an election for president .

Why do I need to make a better point? You've just proved that you can't talk about current political issues. Anytime anyone says 'Kerry' you feel the need to launch into a rant against him and what possibly happened 35 years ago and then go on to defend Bush, as usual.
Nothing I notice about their current positions on political issues and which was/is better for the country.

Great use of the word 'may' in describing Bush's cocaine habit btw. Almost like you implying that it may not have happened and that it was something made up in an effort to discredit him.
I guess this means you view Bush as a liar as well, considering he himself has admitted to using the stuff.

Still, whatever helps you sleep at night.

Do you start to see a pattern here that does not exist with the various underage pages that Foley interacted with?
Of course he doesn't. Or rather he doesn't wish to. It would mean facing up to the fact that his party is the corrupt and dirty one this time round.

Notice how all the GOP apologists on board have as-of-late changed their tactics from defending GOP to pillorying the Dems, and now to a shrug comment of "oh, everything's corrupt in Washington, no-one can be trusted"?

Gee, it's almost as if they can't come up with anything good to say about GOP anymore.

I had to go look that one up... but LOL!

LAWL indeed!

*snip*
Notice how all the GOP apologists on board have as-of-late changed their tactics from defending GOP to pillorying the Dems, and now to a shrug comment of "oh, everything's corrupt in Washington, no-one can be trusted"?

Gee, it's almost as if they can't come up with anything good to say about GOP anymore.

It is the classic response to "our guy has REALLY screwed up this time".

I think it's time the Republicans re-thought their "Grand Old Party" monniker, as these days GOP reads more like "Goose-steppin' Obtuse Paedophiles"...

It is the classic response to "our guy has REALLY screwed up this time".
The classic response to cognitive dissonance as well.

Sooner or later people will have to learn that being a member of any group is not a character reference. There are sickos, perverts, assholes, and racists everywhere.

Though the irony of the family values party being nailed by this is of course amusing.

I think it's time the Republicans re-thought their "Grand Old Party" monniker, as these days GOP reads more like "Goose-steppin' Obtuse Paedophiles"...

Fucking <3

Sooner or later people will have to learn that being a member of any group is not a character reference. There are sickos, perverts, assholes, and racists everywhere.

Though the irony of the family values party being nailed by this is of course amusing.

When you put yourself up on a pedestal, you have farther to fall. You're also more likely to break something when you hit.

When you put yourself up on a pedestal, you have farther to fall. You're also more likely to break something when you hit.

Especially when, while up on that pedestal, you're trying your damndest to kick people in the head for not being on your pedestal.

Sooner or later people will have to learn that being a member of any group is not a character reference. There are sickos, perverts, assholes, and racists everywhere.

Though the irony of the family values party being nailed by this is of course amusing.

Well said. Especially the first paragraph. But also the second.

Why do I need to make a better point? You've just proved that you can't talk about current political issues. Anytime anyone says 'Kerry' you feel the need to launch into a rant against him and what possibly happened 35 years ago and then go on to defend Bush, as usual.
Nothing I notice about their current positions on political issues and which was/is better for the country.

Great use of the word 'may' in describing Bush's cocaine habit btw. Almost like you implying that it may not have happened and that it was something made up in an effort to discredit him.
I guess this means you view Bush as a liar as well, considering he himself has admitted to using the stuff.

Still, whatever helps you sleep at night.


Of course he doesn't. Or rather he doesn't wish to. It would mean facing up to the fact that his party is the corrupt and dirty one this time round.

Notice how all the GOP apologists on board have as-of-late changed their tactics from defending GOP to pillorying the Dems, and now to a shrug comment of "oh, everything's corrupt in Washington, no-one can be trusted"?

Gee, it's almost as if they can't come up with anything good to say about GOP anymore.


I am a registered independent voter I do not vote by party affiliation ...you MUST be confusing me with someone else. Along with reading into things I wrote...like Bush being a coke head or former coke head and may have even been in the national guard was an endorsement.

WTF is wrong with you ? Your time of the month or something ?

The Democrats and Republicans are all fucked up in one way or another and you have to be able to sort the bad one s out of the good ones...so limiting yourself to being a HIPPOCRAT or A REPULICKCAN ....removes 50 % of your possible GOOD person choices.

I will defend who I think is right . On issues that I believe in ..and could care less what party they belong to .

You want to act like a blind man and make believe this whole issue wsn't a set up and manufactured by political operatives to sway idiots durring an election year..hey its your brain ...waste it any way you want .

As far as I am concerned BOTH the Republick-cans and the hippocrats look like assholes.

care to argue THAT point ?


BTW google Santorum ....see what it says? I live in Pa. Care to guess who I will vote for ?

Also look up the Abscam scandle...notice Mr Murtagh ? ...talk about bringing things up from a long time ago...we like our corrupt dudes in office se we can keep am eye on them .


Me belonging to NORMAL and The NRA and working with poor and mentally ill people to help them get the care and benifits they deserve while carrying a gun...does tend to confuse people....so I guess your just normal..but jumping to way too many conclusions .

I think it's time the Republicans re-thought their "Grand Old Party" monniker, as these days GOP reads more like "Goose-steppin' Obtuse Paedophiles"...

"Gay Old Pederasts" works too

"Gay Old Pederasts" works too

Getting Onto Pages. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy_SCSUxuSo&NR


hehhe



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nTr9KdWQOI




The origional story.....for those in a coma....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG1SDKRU3Vc&mode=related&search=

I am a registered independent voter I do not vote by party affiliation ...you MUST be confusing me with someone else. Along with reading into things I wrote...like Bush being a coke head or former coke head and may have even been in the national guard was an endorsement.

WTF is wrong with you ? Your time of the month or something ?

The Democrats and Republicans are all fucked up in one way or another and you have to be able to sort the bad one s out of the good ones...so limiting yourself to being a HIPPOCRAT or A REPULICKCAN ....removes 50 % of your possible GOOD person choices.

I will defend who I think is right . On issues that I believe in ..and could care less what party they belong to .

You want to act like a blind man and make believe this whole issue wsn't a set up and manufactured by political operatives to sway idiots durring an election year..hey its your brain ...waste it any way you want .

As far as I am concerned BOTH the Republick-cans and the hippocrats look like assholes.

care to argue THAT point ?


BTW google Santorum ....see what it says? I live in Pa. Care to guess who I will vote for ?

Also look up the Abscam scandle...notice Mr Murtagh ? ...talk about bringing things up from a long time ago...we like our corrupt dudes in office se we can keep am eye on them .
Ah yes...what a great comeback. Someone disagrees with you, so they must be feeling poorly. Tell me, do you use the excuse 'Your time of the month dearie?' often when faced with a person who's forcing your to confront your own shortcomings?
I suspect you do. Still as I said early, whatever helps you sleep at night.

As for this being a set-up: Does this mean you believe the charges are false? Or merely does this mean you think the Dems should have held onto this information until after the election?
I don't recall you defending Kerry and lambasting GOP for disgusting smear tactics, saying it was all a set-up to persuade simple-minded voters. Why is that?
Let me guess: That was different, the country needed to know about Kerry. But this, why should the country know GOP actively tried to cover up a kiddie-diddler in their midst? Nothing wrong there!

As for being an independent voter: please stop that bs. It's just pathetic. We all know that you love to promote yourself as one, yet willingly and blindly tow the GOP party line every time.
Tell me (you or anyone else here), how many (hundreds of) threads have you started that have been attacks on the Dems vs the number attacking GOP?
Indeed, have you ever made any thread in which you attacked GOP?
Care to argue that point?

And now you're faced with the uncomfortable reality that not only is one of your party a potential kiddie-diddler, which is bad enough in itself, but worse that those higher-up knew about it and attempted to cover it up.
Which leads you not to abusing them, but pathetically crying, "They all bad!", in some desperate attempt to excuse the cognitive dissonance you're no doubt feeling right now.


btw, pls learn how to spell hypocrite. It's starting to get irritating.

I e bad one s out of the good ones...so limiting yourself to being a HIPPOCRAT or A REPULICKCAN ....the hippocrats look like assholes.

.

Fucking goddamned doctors! Fucking HIPPOcrats and their fucking HIPPOcratic oath, fucking up our country! Treason, its TREASON!

If anyone (including the OP) actually read the article, they might have noticed this bit at the end:
A network source explains, messages with the young man and disgraced former Congressman Foley took place before and after the 18th birthday.

Ah yes...what a great comeback. Someone disagrees with you, so they must be feeling poorly. Tell me, do you use the excuse 'Your time of the month dearie?' often when faced with a person who's forcing your to confront your own shortcomings?
I suspect you do. Still as I said early, whatever helps you sleep at night.

As for this being a set-up: Does this mean you believe the charges are false? Or merely does this mean you think the Dems should have held onto this information until after the election?
I don't recall you defending Kerry and lambasting GOP for disgusting smear tactics, saying it was all a set-up to persuade simple-minded voters. Why is that?
Let me guess: That was different, the country needed to know about Kerry. But this, why should the country know GOP actively tried to cover up a kiddie-diddler in their midst? Nothing wrong there!

As for being an independent voter: please stop that bs. It's just pathetic. We all know that you love to promote yourself as one, yet willingly and blindly tow the GOP party line every time.
Tell me (you or anyone else here), how many (hundreds of) threads have you started that have been attacks on the Dems vs the number attacking GOP?
Indeed, have you ever made any thread in which you attacked GOP?
Care to argue that point?

And now you're faced with the uncomfortable reality that not only is one of your party a potential kiddie-diddler, which is bad enough in itself, but worse that those higher-up knew about it and attempted to cover it up.
Which leads you not to abusing them, but pathetically crying, "They all bad!", in some desperate attempt to excuse the cognitive dissonance you're no doubt feeling right now.


btw, pls learn how to spell hypocrite. It's starting to get irritating.

Next thing you know, he'll say he's a centrist.

Next thing you know, he'll say he's a centrist.

Ooooh, burn. :D

Ah yes...what a great comeback. Someone disagrees with you, so they must be feeling poorly. Tell me, do you use the excuse 'Your time of the month dearie?' often when faced with a person who's forcing your to confront your own shortcomings?
I suspect you do. Still as I said early, whatever helps you sleep at night.

As for this being a set-up: Does this mean you believe the charges are false? Or merely does this mean you think the Dems should have held onto this information until after the election?
I don't recall you defending Kerry and lambasting GOP for disgusting smear tactics, saying it was all a set-up to persuade simple-minded voters. Why is that?
Let me guess: That was different, the country needed to know about Kerry. But this, why should the country know GOP actively tried to cover up a kiddie-diddler in their midst? Nothing wrong there!

As for being an independent voter: please stop that bs. It's just pathetic. We all know that you love to promote yourself as one, yet willingly and blindly tow the GOP party line every time.
Tell me (you or anyone else here), how many (hundreds of) threads have you started that have been attacks on the Dems vs the number attacking GOP?
Indeed, have you ever made any thread in which you attacked GOP?
Care to argue that point?

And now you're faced with the uncomfortable reality that not only is one of your party a potential kiddie-diddler, which is bad enough in itself, but worse that those higher-up knew about it and attempted to cover it up.
Which leads you not to abusing them, but pathetically crying, "They all bad!", in some desperate attempt to excuse the cognitive dissonance you're no doubt feeling right now.


btw, pls learn how to spell hypocrite. It's starting to get irritating.


Hipocrat / democrat / SEX scandle / get it yet ?

Not my party . the " uncomfortable" reality is that fools are crowing about this kiddy didler when the real issues are out still awaiting discussion .

I am sure the GOP promote making POT legal...and increasing benifits to welare recipiants and all of the other social issues like Gay marriage and staying out of peoples bedrooms and such...all things I have posted on and started threads on...yep I am SUCH the model fucking republican its scary .


Kerry is a slime bag...a worse slime bag than Bush .. THATS my opinion ..

Why cant I get Warner to vote for ? And why did the Dems give us such a wondefull choice for a Presidential candidate ?

OOPs you must have missed the tread I started looking for a VIABLE Democrat that we could vote for ...

Not to mention my rant against fundementalist Christian assholes thinking they shoud run the country just because they helped Bush get elected....

And lawmakers who should be drug out and shot for trying to pass alaw to keep a vegitable alive when the courts already ruled...

Or when I scream bloody murder about the supreme court being fucked up and ...lets discuss eminent domain shall we...OR

HOW ABOUT MY THREAD on the PATRIOT ACT and how dangerouse it was as first enacted because of the precident it set and the lack of oversight ????

WTF ?? You blind or just selective with your memory ?

BTW ...so the spelling nazi's can find something else to do...

DEMOCRATS are being Hypocrits by complining about any type of sex scandle .

SO by combining DEMOCRAT and hypocrit I get Hipocrat ...GOT it ?


You thinnk the info should have been held on to at all considering we have underage kids..according to you ..being possibly messed with ?

Why wasnt the info IMMEDIATELY released...why was it held onto ?

BTW you really need to get your facts in order ..show ANY proof that anyone knew about the PRIVATE communications...the Instant messages in question ...and covered them up .

You cant because it didnt happen...come to think of it ...JUST how did these instant messages get saved and get out ?

Thats not a very hard question is it ?

The e-mails have been proven time and time again to show NO FUCKING reason to get rid of the guy and still he was warned he was skirting the line of propriety...

SHOW one millimeter of PROOF that Hasket knew anything that should have made him act on .

Seems YOU are the one with an agenda ...

I have my INDEPENDENT credentials fully intact.

You though are acting as a tool of the Democrats .

If the charges are false I doubt the dude would have resigned.

BUT ...who knew the shit was going on and how they got the info and why they didnt release it IMMIDIATELY is a really good quesstion ...isnt it ?

The Page in question..fucking ABC left his name up on their site so his pravacy is fucking shot to shit...his names out and he went and hired a criminal lawyer.

I see more to this than Republicans bad Democrats good...thats BULLSHIT and you should know it .

Next thing you know, he'll say he's a centrist.

Hang on... in the "Is there a far left Democrat...?" thread, I was accused of being centrist. If HE is on MY side... I want OFF my side!

:p

And now you're faced with the uncomfortable reality that not only is one of your party a potential kiddie-diddler, which is bad enough in itself, but worse that those higher-up knew about it and attempted to cover it up.
Which leads you not to abusing them, but pathetically crying, "They all bad!", in some desperate attempt to excuse the cognitive dissonance you're no doubt feeling right now.

And on top of that, a kiddy-diddler who help found a committee on dealing with child exploitation. Sort of like making Michael Jackson the principal of an elementary school or putting the Addams Family in charge of Amtrak.

But on a sad note, it seems that the sheeple who chant "Family Values" while trying to bury gays in the closet or the ground don't seem the least bit inclined to express outrage at the GOP hypocrisy where it counts; at the voting booths.

Hang on... in the "Is there a far left Democrat...?" thread, I was accused of being centrist. If HE is on MY side... I want OFF my side!

:p

It's a NationStates tradition that anyone who's hard right and probably a lower-quarters licking Bushevik will proclaim him or herself to be "A Centrist."

:D

Hipocrat / democrat / SEX scandle / get it yet ?

Not my party . the " uncomfortable" reality is that fools are crowing about this kiddy didler when the real issues are out still awaiting discussion .

I am sure the GOP promote making POT legal...and increasing benifits to welare recipiants and all of the other social issues like Gay marriage and staying out of peoples bedrooms and such...all things I have posted on and started threads on...yep I am SUCH the model fucking republican its scary .


Kerry is a slime bag...a worse slime bag than Bush .. THATS my opinion ..

Why cant I get Warner to vote for ? And why did the Dems give us such a wondefull choice for a Presidential candidate ?

OOPs you must have missed the tread I started looking for a VIABLE Democrat that we could vote for ...

Not to mention my rant against fundementalist Christian assholes thinking they shoud run the country just because they helped Bush get elected....

And lawmakers who should be drug out and shot for trying to pass alaw to keep a vegitable alive when the courts already ruled...

Or when I scream bloody murder about the supreme court being fucked up and ...lets discuss eminent domain shall we...OR

HOW ABOUT MY THREAD on the PATRIOT ACT and how dangerouse it was as first enacted because of the precident it set and the lack of oversight ????

WTF ?? You blind or just selective with your memory ?

BTW ...so the spelling nazi's can find something else to do...

DEMOCRATS are being Hypocrits by complining about any type of sex scandle .

SO by combining DEMOCRAT and hypocrit I get Hipocrat ...GOT it ?


You thinnk the info should have been held on to at all considering we have underage kids..according to you ..being possibly messed with ?

Why wasnt the info IMMEDIATELY released...why was it held onto ?

BTW you really need to get your facts in order ..show ANY proof that anyone knew about the PRIVATE communications...the Instant messages in question ...and covered them up .

You cant because it didnt happen...come to think of it ...JUST how did these instant messages get saved and get out ?

Thats not a very hard question is it ?

The e-mails have been proven time and time again to show NO FUCKING reason to get rid of the guy and still he was warned he was skirting the line of propriety...

SHOW one millimeter of PROOF that Hasket knew anything that should have made him act on .

Seems YOU are the one with an agenda ...

I have my INDEPENDENT credentials fully intact.

You though are acting as a tool of the Democrats .

If the charges are false I doubt the dude would have resigned.

BUT ...who knew the shit was going on and how they got the info and why they didnt release it IMMIDIATELY is a really good quesstion ...isnt it ?

The Page in question..fucking ABC left his name up on their site so his pravacy is fucking shot to shit...his names out and he went and hired a criminal lawyer.

I see more to this than Republicans bad Democrats good...thats BULLSHIT and you should know it .

You know what? Don't do the Democrats any favors by voting for them. We don't need you and don't want to be associated with you.

You know what? Don't do the Democrats any favors by voting for them. We don't need you and don't want to be associated with you.


Sure I'll stop working to get Casey elected because I dont meet your criteria ...:rolleyes:

Tell you what get rid of all the far left looney toons and maybe you can occasionally win an election on merit .

Instead of waiting for the other party to out buffoon your party.

Thankfully I know you dont represent any democrats I know or work with..in fact by your example ..I can actually use you to show others how to improve the party and get elected on merit .

Your acting like a poster child for the " Why democrats dont deserve to be elected " crowd .

Nice Job .

Try answering one of those good questions about how instant messages become public . Start with that ...an easy one .

Try answering one of those good questions about how instant messages become public . Start with that ...an easy one .

they become public by having the recipient of them making them public.

you must be getting your information from a bad source. i suggest you look around the news sites for a discussion of who knew what when and why. its out there.

it will even answer your query as to what hastert knew and why he does carry some blame in this scandle.

if you bother to look it up yourself you will be satisfied that its not a democratic trap on the poor innocent republicans. it will save us a couple pages of "prove it".

its october. the various candidates have been running on the issues for months. all thoughtful people have made up their minds on which candidate they prefer. there is, however, a pool of voters who buy the republican line that they are somehow the party of virtue. they vote against their own self interest because they want the good guys to be in office. its not wrong of the democrats to make sure that everyone knows that the republicans are not more moral than democrats and that in the end the republican leadership will protect their own power rather than protect children who are in their immediate care.

*snip*
Try answering one of those good questions about how instant messages become public . Start with that ...an easy one .

You want theories... How about these?

OBVIOUS: The father of the kid released them. A long time ago. Just recently, the timing became right for it to be "news".

POLITICAL: The Democrats released them just in time to sink the Republicans at the polls. Imagine that. Politicians doing political maneuvering. "And then the Republicans can ACCUSE us of political maneuvering, and then we can accuse THEM of..."

GENEROUS: The Democrats released them as soon as they got them (from who? Well, combine this with any other theory).

HUMANITARIAN: One of the Republicans who had them decided that he/she could no longer allow this to happen, so released them. The timing may have been simply a way to assure that Foley would not skate by as others seem to have done in the past.

GUILTY: Foley released them.

GUILTY BUT YOU MUST FORGIVE: Foley released them because he knew it was the right thing to do.

GUILTY BUT REALLY THE VICTIM HERE SO YOU MUST FORGIVE: Foley, the drunken, abused, gay fool that he is, released them because he knew it was the right thing to do.

CYNICAL: The Republicans released them. "Hey, they were going to be released anyway, and we are better off with Foley out of here before he actually manages to rape some kid."

CYNICAL II: The Republicans not currently up for re-election released them. "Let's get this done with now, before *I* have to explain it to my constituants."

CYNICAL III: The Republicans released them. "If this comes out two years from now, we won't be able to get another president in."

CYNICAL IV: The Republicans released them. "Hey, it worked. Is anybody talking about the Torture Bill anymore?"


Pick the one that makes you the happiest. In the end, what difference? The issue should not be a partisan one. What he did was wrong, and all the rest is deflective fluff that will only get in the way of the actual problem being dealt with.






*bonus points to anyone who can smell out what classic play this style of list references* :p

Sure I'll stop working to get Casey elected because I dont meet your criteria ...:rolleyes:

Tell you what get rid of all the far left looney toons and maybe you can occasionally win an election on merit .

Instead of waiting for the other party to out buffoon your party.

Thankfully I know you dont represent any democrats I know or work with..in fact by your example ..I can actually use you to show others how to improve the party and get elected on merit .

Your acting like a poster child for the " Why democrats dont deserve to be elected " crowd .

Nice Job .

Try answering one of those good questions about how instant messages become public . Start with that ...an easy one .
Casey will win without your sorry ass, and we'll be a better party for it. Seriously, anyone who's actually acting like Hastert doesn't deserve to lose his job over this thing, we don't want on our side. Go find a third party if you don't want to support the Republicans, but don't act like you're doing us any favors.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashmfa.htm

If this holds up, I may owe Foley an apology for thinking he's a child molester (at least with respect to this particular page).

The Ass-o-crat Party, on the other hand, may owe the country an apology for trying to pull yet another last-minute smear and con-job ala Dan Rather in 2004. :p

You am an moron.

A) just because the most publicized one might have been with an 18 year old, that does nothing to address all the other instances that have come to light since.

B) Drudge is the guy who was saying that the fault lay with the kids for being "greedy and driven for being in Washington in the first place," because normal kids don't have that kind of drive. Before you start throwing around words like "Ass-o-crat" consider the source.

C) It wasn't the Democrats who tried to make this an issue. This issue came to light all on its own.

Especially when, while up on that pedestal, you're trying your damndest to kick people in the head for not being on your pedestal.

Of course, if you want to kick people in the head, you sort of have to be on a pedestal. Most people just aren't capable of those "West Side Story" moves.

If anyone (including the OP) actually read the article, they might have noticed this bit at the end:

Oh. So Drudge defends pedophiles with "sure he raped them when they were kids, but they're grown up now, so it's legal, right?"

Sounds about right for him.

It's a NationStates tradition that anyone who's hard right and probably a lower-quarters licking Bushevik will proclaim him or herself to be "A Centrist."

:D

I know... and it scares me. If that is center, then right is a very scary, dark place indeed. But then, I suppose that the 'centrists' feel the same way about left.

Nice theorys about how the IM 's got out...but do you actually know what happened and why now ?

I do not although I do know the kid hired a criminal defense attorney and the FBI is investigating .


politicions are horny and like to screw anything with a suitable orifice...

THAT works for both parties and is not news .

They are always trying to outsleze each other.


So what did this Haslet guy do wrong again ?

What was the substance of your answer ? " I dont like him " ?

He's a republican. No republicans deserve a job ..only Democrats ...ummm ok right...because why again ?

The Democrats deserve to be elected because they are not republicans ...

I must say its very catchy and makes a great platform for mentaly ill people to consider .


I like the line about " at least they are not talking about ...........( take your pick ) anymore" ...just more normal sleazy political shit ..


That makes about the most sense so far .



You am an moron.


You got to work on that one a bit .;)


C) It wasn't the Democrats who tried to make this an issue. This issue came to light all on its own.

Actually no thats not possible .

You see its the instant messages that are the problem . Either FOLEY or the PAGE had to SAVE THEM and then COPY them and give them to a third party who then made them public.


So who saved the IM's and WHY did they save them...the kids 17 or 18 and his PARENTS are on record as saying they wish to be left alone about the whole matter....must be the whole gay thing maybe...BUT they certainly have not gone public with anything . AND neither HAS the PAGE .

So ....who got the instant messages and why ?

Dont you want to know ? The whole of washington apparently knew Foley was wired a bit different and supposedly pages were warned to not get too friendly and he was bit "different " or "odd "...so the question begs to be answered ....why did anyone wait if the guy was a threat to kids to OUT him ? They couldn't do anything with just the E-mails...they needed the instant messages...so what made someone save them and make copies ..or intercept them in another way...??? AND why did they not IMMEDIATELY report them to the proper authority...BTW ABC news is not the proper authority...not if you are REALLY interested in protecting kids from chickenhawks .

And please dont let any Democrats get on a pedastal about a sex scandle..they are the champions no one can beat them .

Not as long as Clinton and Stubbs exist .

So far this Foley moron has some ISTANT MESSAGES going out to young males...Clinton and Stubbbs actually scored .

I mean Foley is a double loser...he not only got caught ...he actually had to RESIGN and he didnt even GET LAID .

Typical Republican..couldnt close the deal..:p

I mean Foley is a double loser...he not only got caught ...he actually had to RESIGN and he didnt even GET LAID .

Typical Republican..couldnt close the deal..:p

:p

Nice theorys about how the IM 's got out...but do you actually know what happened and why now ?

I do not although I do know the kid hired a criminal defense attorney and the FBI is investigating .


politicions are horny and like to screw anything with a suitable orifice...

THAT works for both parties and is not news .

They are always trying to outsleze each other.


So what did this Haslet guy do wrong again ?

What was the substance of your answer ? " I dont like him " ?

He's a republican. No republicans deserve a job ..only Democrats ...ummm ok right...because why again ?

The Democrats deserve to be elected because they are not republicans ...

I must say its very catchy and makes a great platform for mentaly ill people to consider .


I like the line about " at least they are not talking about ...........( take your pick ) anymore" ...just more normal sleazy political shit ..


That makes about the most sense so far .






You got to work on that one a bit .;)




Actually no thats not possible .

You see its the instant messages that are the problem . Either FOLEY or the PAGE had to SAVE THEM and then COPY them and give them to a third party who then made them public.


So who saved the IM's and WHY did they save them...the kids 17 or 18 and his PARENTS are on record as saying they wish to be left alone about the whole matter....must be the whole gay thing maybe...BUT they certainly have not gone public with anything . AND neither HAS the PAGE .

So ....who got the instant messages and why ?

Dont you want to know ? The whole of washington apparently knew Foley was wired a bit different and supposedly pages were warned to not get too friendly and he was bit "different " or "odd "...so the question begs to be answered ....why did anyone wait if the guy was a threat to kids to OUT him ? They couldn't do anything with just the E-mails...they needed the instant messages...so what made someone save them and make copies ..or intercept them in another way...??? AND why did they not IMMEDIATELY report them to the proper authority...BTW ABC news is not the proper authority...not if you are REALLY interested in protecting kids from chickenhawks .

And please dont let any Democrats get on a pedastal about a sex scandle..they are the champions no one can beat them .

Not as long as Clinton and Stubbs exist .

So far this Foley moron has some ISTANT MESSAGES going out to young males...Clinton and Stubbbs actually scored .

I mean Foley is a double loser...he not only got caught ...he actually had to RESIGN and he didnt even GET LAID .

Typical Republican..couldnt close the deal..:p

It's very common to set your instant messenger to save all your conversations, so that means that there wasn't necessarily a special effort made to save this one.

Even if you like having a sex chat with an old pervert ? I can see the old dude maybe saving them for when he gets his vigra going again...but the young dude ? thats a bit suicidal...I doubt he wants his friends to come accross that shit. Never mind someone else ....nahhh sorry it just aint right ...there had to be a reason to save the stuff...I doubt it was love .

Even if you like having a sex chat with an old pervert ? I can see the old dude maybe saving them for when he gets his vigra going again...but the young dude ? thats a bit suicidal...I doubt he wants his friends to come accross that shit. Never mind someone else ....nahhh sorry it just aint right ...there had to be a reason to save the stuff...I doubt it was love .

Even if you like having a sex chat with an old pervert ? I can see the old dude maybe saving them for when he gets his vigra going again...but the young dude ? thats a bit suicidal...I doubt he wants his friends to come accross that shit. Never mind someone else ....nahhh sorry it just aint right ...there had to be a reason to save the stuff...I doubt it was love .
Good Lord man, do you even read what you write?
"There has to be a reason to save the stuff"
Are you seriously now trying to claim it was all a set-up by the 16 yr old to get at Foley?
Because that's pretty much what you are saying.

That's going beyond being an apologist for GOP to just being downright obscene.

Dare I ask it: Can you sink any lower?

Dare I ask it: Can you sink any lower?

He's looking for those 'well it's almost the same as Clinton' talking points.

Or maybe 'the kid was a secret Democrat Operative' talking points.

Quoted For Truth.

But in a story about Mark Foley, it could also mean, Quit Fondling Teens. ;)
QFT :D

Unless there are two of them getting lawyers. The KID is currently 21. This all happened 4-5 years ago.

So, am I the only one to wonder why it took 4 damned years to come out?



Good Lord man, do you even read what you write?
"There has to be a reason to save the stuff"
Are you seriously now trying to claim it was all a set-up by the 16 yr old to get at Foley?
Because that's pretty much what you are saying.

That's going beyond being an apologist for GOP to just being downright obscene.

Dare I ask it: Can you sink any lower?

Okay then DH. Why would someone save IM's from several years ago? It's actually a good question that doesn't make Sanity an apologist for this clown. Why would a 16 year old boy, who claims that he is not homosexual, keep messages that could make him look like he is? And for 4 years? Why?