NationStates Jolt Archive


I don't normally support censorship, but...

Congo--Kinshasa
03-10-2006, 03:04
I stumbled across this piece of putrid garbage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Cleansing_%28computer_game%29) while browsing through wikipedia, and literally became physically ill. Should shit like this be banned? Poll coming.
Andaluciae
03-10-2006, 03:09
They certainly shouldn't be banned, but they also shouldn't be made in the first place. That's tastelessness of the first order, and if I ever meet the fellow who made that game I'll give 'im what he deserves.

If I'm lucky, he'll probably call me a race traitor. That would be awesome.
Katganistan
03-10-2006, 03:11
The best way to show how you feel: don't buy their game.
Iztatepopotla
03-10-2006, 03:14
Sounds like fun, I mean, it's not like games have to be politically correct to be good, or that playing a game will turn you into a violent racist member of the KKK. Personally, I loved shooting Mexican soldiers in Ghost Recon, made even better because I could eavesdrop on their conversations and knew what they were doing.

Funnily, the minimal game requirements don't say you have to be white to play, so maybe I'll order it.
Congo--Kinshasa
03-10-2006, 03:15
The best way to show how you feel: don't buy their game.

I would rather die a slow and painful death than let that piece of garbage come into my possession.
New Xero Seven
03-10-2006, 03:19
As much as it is putrid trash, its their creation, so let them speak their god-awful minds. The game prolly dint make a lot of profit anyhow.
Congo--Kinshasa
03-10-2006, 03:21
As much as it is putrid trash, its their creation, so let them speak their god-awful minds. The game prolly dint make a lot of profit anyhow.

My thoughts exactly, but even so...
Soviestan
03-10-2006, 03:22
Hell no it shouldn't be banned. Racists are people too, and if we censor them, we will be next.
Sane Outcasts
03-10-2006, 03:24
No need to support censorship just for the sake of this garbage. This would fall under an incitement of violence, IIRC, which is not protected.

Besides, in cases like this social pressure would be more than enough to doom such a racist POS. Just imagine the reaction if a retailer actually tried to sell it.
New Granada
03-10-2006, 03:25
No, freedom of speech is not dependent on the political correctness of the speech. Broadly - if the speech isnt manifestly injuring or killing people, it is absolute.
Naliitr
03-10-2006, 03:26
Still Free Speech man. If you don't want it out there, start a petition.
Congo--Kinshasa
03-10-2006, 03:29
All good points, but just think of some of the sick fucks who might order this game and force their kids to play...
Soviestan
03-10-2006, 03:30
All good points, but just think of some of the sick fucks who might order this game and force their kids to play...

so what if they do?
Iztatepopotla
03-10-2006, 03:31
All good points, but just think of some of the sick fucks who might order this game and force their kids to play...

Then it's all good, kids will do exactly the opposite just to spite their parents.
Congo--Kinshasa
03-10-2006, 03:32
so what if they do?

Then we'll have a whole new generation of pond scum on our hands.
Laerod
03-10-2006, 03:32
Pretty shitty graphics for a 2002 game...
UpwardThrust
03-10-2006, 03:32
All good points, but just think of some of the sick fucks who might order this game and force their kids to play...

Somehow I don’t think the game is going to fuck them up any more then their family life already is
Wilgrove
03-10-2006, 03:32
No it should not be banned, free speech mean tht even the racist and ingorant people get to speak their minds.
UpwardThrust
03-10-2006, 03:33
Pretty shitty graphics for a 2002 game...

Hand made piece of trash by a very small group based off an older open source engine that was fairly early in its development
Congo--Kinshasa
03-10-2006, 03:33
Somehow I don’t think the game is going to fuck them up any more then their family life already is

Good point.
Soviestan
03-10-2006, 03:36
Then we'll have a whole new generation of pond scum on our hands.

I may not like racists but they are not pond scum.
Iztatepopotla
03-10-2006, 03:38
I may not like racists but they are not pond scum.

Yeah, calling them that is not cool, man. The correct term is "skin tone
tolerance challenged".
Katganistan
03-10-2006, 03:39
Then we'll have a whole new generation of pond scum on our hands.

Do you not think that their parents are already telling them how vile people of color and the Jews are? Giving them books and music and movies that "prove" just that?
Congo--Kinshasa
03-10-2006, 03:44
I may not like racists but they are not pond scum.

I've met several. Calling them "pond scum" is an insult to pond scum. They're lower than that.
Soheran
03-10-2006, 03:47
No, they should not be banned. But they are definitely vile.
Soviestan
03-10-2006, 03:48
I've met several. Calling them "pond scum" is an insult to pond scum. They're lower than that.

streotype much?
Pyotr
03-10-2006, 03:51
streotype much?

Not really, hes just saying that racism and racists are lower than pond-scum, How is that stereotyping again?
Congo--Kinshasa
03-10-2006, 03:54
streotype much?

I'm guessing you never met a racist. They are absolute filth.
Soviestan
03-10-2006, 03:58
Not really, hes just saying that racism and racists are lower than pond-scum, How is that stereotyping again?

By saying everyone in a group are basically lower than human.
Soviestan
03-10-2006, 04:22
I'm guessing you never met a racist. They are absolute filth.

I've met plenty of racists, some of them weren't that bad.
JiangGuo
03-10-2006, 04:55
There is no need for censorship EVER. Even showing photos of decomposing corpses to K-9 childern shouldn't be censored as long as they are given a chance to refuse seeing it.
Sheni
03-10-2006, 05:27
There is no need for censorship EVER. Even showing photos of decomposing corpses to K-9 childern shouldn't be censored as long as they are given a chance to refuse seeing it.

To puppies?:confused:
No really, I get what you mean, but it did sound weird for a second there.
Piratnea
03-10-2006, 05:34
You absolutly cannot ban games like this.

If you ban any game period for these or similar reasons that just opens the flood gate for more bannings on games that are not so bad. If this game is on a 9 on a 1 - 10 scale of tastelessness (sp?). Then what happens when an 8 is on debate for banning. Well it just a little better, but its still bad. Then ban it. Then a 7. Well 8 got banned this isnt as bad but it is pretty bad. Ban it.

So on and so forth.
Miiros
03-10-2006, 05:51
Freedom is a double-edged sword. Even though I detest what this game represents, banning it would open a Pandora's box leading to the ability to ban pretty much anything really. Let the game be made, it will not affect me in the slightest and then no one can ban a game I might want to play, but someone else disagrees with.
Mikesburg
03-10-2006, 06:03
I miss the days when the worst you had to fear from video games was Nintendo-thumb.

Censorship is a fact of society. It'll be around for as long as people are collectively offended. We might as well use our collective offense and shove that shitty video game down someone's throat.

Pac-man is crying somewhere.
Soviestan
03-10-2006, 06:06
Pac-man is crying somewhere.

Thats because Ms. Pacman is a whore who cheated on him with the ghosts
Mikesburg
03-10-2006, 06:08
Thats because Ms. Pacman is a whore who cheated on him with the ghosts

And those damn ghosts let the celebrity sex tape run rampant on the internet.


What a sad age we live in.
The South Islands
03-10-2006, 06:16
Hmmm...it might be worth a few minutes of my time. I wonder if bittorrent has it someplace.
Evil Cantadia
03-10-2006, 06:17
No, freedom of speech is not dependent on the political correctness of the speech. Broadly - if the speech isnt manifestly injuring or killing people, it is absolute. What does political correctness have to do with this? If the "free speech" is encouraging people to go out and kill people of another race ...
Mikesburg
03-10-2006, 06:20
Hmmm...it might be worth a few minutes of my time. I wonder if bittorrent has it someplace.

Wait... the racist video game, or the Miss Pacman celebrity sex-tape?
The South Islands
03-10-2006, 06:22
Wait... the racist video game, or the Miss Pacman celebrity sex-tape?

Ummm...both?
Soviestan
03-10-2006, 06:22
And those damn ghosts let the celebrity sex tape run rampant on the internet.


What a sad age we live in.
It is a sad age, but one word describes that tape. HAWT.
Mikesburg
03-10-2006, 06:24
Ummm...both?

Uhhmm... alright. In that case, a word to the wise; don't expect high quality from the Miss Pacman footage. It's filmed in CGA format.
The South Islands
03-10-2006, 06:26
Uhhmm... alright. In that case, a word to the wise; don't expect high quality from the Miss Pacman footage. It's filmed in CGA format.

As long as it still shows naked pacb00bs, TSI is a happy man.
Mikesburg
03-10-2006, 06:27
As long as it still shows naked pacb00bs, TSI is a happy man.

And horny ghosts chasing her through a maze; you won't be disappointed.
The South Islands
03-10-2006, 06:34
And horny ghosts chasing her through a maze; you won't be disappointed.

double wewt
Congo--Kinshasa
03-10-2006, 19:24
I've met plenty of racists, some of them weren't that bad.

Maybe it's just me, then. All the ones I met were quite bad.
Wilgrove
03-10-2006, 19:28
Am I the only one who is kinda intrigued about this game? I mean I know it's a horrible game that promotes racism and violence against other races, but it's like a car wreck. Car wrecks are bad, but you just can't stop looking!
New Granada
03-10-2006, 19:29
All good points, but just think of some of the sick fucks who might order this game and force their kids to play...

-100 for a "thonk of the children!" 'argument.'

Also, "I dont normally support censorship, but..." is BS

Do you only support censorship when you're offended :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


shame on you
Congo--Kinshasa
03-10-2006, 19:30
-100 for a "for the children!" 'argument.'

shame on you

Sorry. :(
Congo--Kinshasa
03-10-2006, 19:31
You absolutly cannot ban games like this.

If you ban any game period for these or similar reasons that just opens the flood gate for more bannings on games that are not so bad. If this game is on a 9 on a 1 - 10 scale of tastelessness (sp?). Then what happens when an 8 is on debate for banning. Well it just a little better, but its still bad. Then ban it. Then a 7. Well 8 got banned this isnt as bad but it is pretty bad. Ban it.

So on and so forth.

That's true.
New Granada
03-10-2006, 19:37
Sorry. :(

looks like you replied before the edit above, so, again:

"I don't normally support censorship, but..." is nonsense

Do you only support it when you're offended? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

This seems like you do normally support it. If you didnt normally support censorship, you wouldnt want to censor something as harmless and clearly protected as this.
IL Ruffino
03-10-2006, 20:10
No.
Rainbowwws
03-10-2006, 20:31
Yes Games like that and Grand Theft Auto are aweful. Violence is OK but targetted, racist, sexist violence makes me want to be sick.
Congo--Kinshasa
03-10-2006, 20:35
looks like you replied before the edit above, so, again:

"I don't normally support censorship, but..." is nonsense

Do you only support it when you're offended? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

This seems like you do normally support it. If you didnt normally support censorship, you wouldnt want to censor something as harmless and clearly protected as this.

I don't normally support it. But shit like this makes me wonder.
Rainbowwws
03-10-2006, 20:41
I don't normally support it. But shit like this makes me wonder.

Well, isn't it against the law to tell people to go commit hate crimes. You can tell people to hate, but not tell them to kill the people they hate. Of course, it is just a game...
Ginnoria
03-10-2006, 20:49
I stumbled across this piece of putrid garbage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Cleansing_%28computer_game%29) while browsing through wikipedia, and literally became physically ill. Should shit like this be banned? Poll coming.

No, shit like this should not be banned. Freedom of speech means freedom of speech for ideas that we hate, not just ideas we agree with. There are a number of excellent SCOTUS precedents for this, made for excellent reasons, and if you need to know them go and google for them.

Now that that is out of the way, you yourself have just unintentionally given this racist computer game more popularity. If you really hate things that you find on the internet like this, you should simply leave it alone and don't make threads about it. But instead, you have raised awareness of this game, thus inciting more people to buy it.
Ny Nordland
03-10-2006, 20:57
HAHAHA! Jewish Command Center with Ariel Sharon. I think that's hilarious.
UpwardThrust
03-10-2006, 21:30
HAHAHA! Jewish Command Center with Ariel Sharon. I think that's hilarious.

How so seems rather predictable to me judging by the steriotypical view of the jewish controlling class by a lot of anti semites
Amaralandia
03-10-2006, 21:55
GTA is much worst than this, and I don't think it should be banned.
However, parents should be careful on letting their kids play these games.
Some kids are more easily influenced than others, unless your kid doesn't have a rather good grasp on reality, you really should just give him/her pac-man.
Swilatia
04-10-2006, 01:33
no.
Piratnea
04-10-2006, 01:37
If some person is that easily convinced to hurt or kill someone based on this video game. Even if it was banned, something else would have pushed this person over. Is it that much worse if you play a game like DOA (dead or alive) and then just run up to some old lady and give em a round house kick to the face? Would you want that to be banned? Or what about Hitman? Just because this game has a racist tone doesnt make it any diffrent when you suggest that THIS game might make someone kill...

Ever thought about that?
Bitchkitten
04-10-2006, 01:38
I agree with the idea that they're lower than pondscum, but I disagree with censorship. Totally.

I propose we make a game of hunting racists and their kin. Though I wouldn't let my kids near either one.
Infinite Revolution
04-10-2006, 02:03
the best weapon we have against shit like this is to ignore it, stop drawing attention to it and it will wither and die. publicising how disgusting it is on a public forum and campaigning to get it censored gives it free advertising. in all likelyhood the nazis on this forum, be they trolls or lurkers, had never heard of this game before now. the game gained a few fans through this thread, i will post no further. although i suspect in the time it has taken for six odd pages to build up all the nazis on here have found it already. oh well.
German Nightmare
04-10-2006, 02:41
I bet it is already banned over here - and rightly so, I'd say.
Nyreg
04-10-2006, 02:49
I bet it is already banned over here - and rightly so, I'd say.

I dont agree with what you say, but i wil die so that you may be free to say so. (that and the unlikely implimentation of article 5 of the NATO act.)

This "game" falls on its own message of hate, and violence. Only those who belive in the games message. Will ever take it seriusly.

Don't draw a line, since that line may be moved with time and fear.