NationStates Jolt Archive

Personally, I'd like to see either Generals Wesley Clark, Tony Zinni, or Colin Powell run. I think they could fix this mess of a government we have right now, and get us back on the right track.

Ron Paul. Not that that would ever happen... :(

Ron Paul. Not that that would ever happen... :(

:(

For pres?

I'd like to see a McCain vs. Obama race. It won't happen, but at least there'd be two people I'd actually have to seriously consider and think about voting for, rather than just going, "Which guy sucks the most? Ok, I'll vote for the other one."

For pres?

I'd like to see a McCain vs. Obama race. It won't happen, but at least there'd be two people I'd actually have to seriously consider and think about voting for, rather than just going, "Which guy sucks the most? Ok, I'll vote for the other one."


I didn't like either candidate last election. Neither were worth my vote. I wish Howard Dean or Wesley Clark would have made it to the ballot though....

McCain has lost some credibility for me over the last few years. I'd say Guliani would do better than him in nearly any race.

McCain has lost some credibility for me over the last few years. I'd say Guliani would do better than him in nearly any race.

I'd be afraid Guliani wouldn't relinquish power again ;)

McCain has lost some credibility for me over the last few years. I'd say Guliani would do better than him in nearly any race.

Mr. "Clean up (ie. censor) Broadway"? Nah, he's done way too much Bush-boot-kissing for me. McCain's done some, but not nearly as much as most Republicans.

Powell and a moderate Dem. I really like Powell but he is too much of a good guy to be President. I could also go for McCain in spite of some things I disagree with him about.

In all honesty people need to realize that in a who is worse election like the last one, they should vote third party. There is usually a viable candidate and we need to show that we can actually think about issues.

Vote Libertarian!

Vote Libertarian!

Hear, hear! :D

*high-fives Fengzhuozi*

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Stewart and Colbert.

I'm literally on my knees everytime I think about those two running - praying to whatever gods or spirits are listening.

I'm gonna see that movie, as well. I know you know what movie I'm talking about.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Stewart and Colbert.

I'm literally on my knees everytime I think about those two running - praying to whatever gods or spirits are listening.

I'm gonna see that movie, as well. I know you know what movie I'm talking about.

I do love those two, but they are a bit too liberal for my blood. I would, however, love to see Stewart running a major news channel. He would actually put news on the air.

For the Republicans, Jeb Bush. Wait, let me finish!

For the Democrats, Hillary Clinton. Calm down!

Why, you ask? Because they represent everything the parties have come to stand for, and therefore, they are the best chance we have of electing a third party candidate as President. :D

I do love those two, but they are a bit too liberal for my blood. I would, however, love to see Stewart running a major news channel. He would actually put news on the air.

Nah. Someone like him will never be able to pull that off - too much dirty money being passed around, he'd get sick of it and the channel would go under.

Nah. Someone like him will never be able to pull that off - too much dirty money being passed around, he'd get sick of it and the channel would go under.

So he could handle the dirty money of government but not cable news?????

For the Republicans, Jeb Bush. Wait, let me finish!

For the Democrats, Hillary Clinton. Calm down!

Why, you ask? Because they represent everything the parties have come to stand for, and therefore, they are the best chance we have of electing a third party candidate as President. :D

Actually that would be an LBJ v George W. election.

For the Republicans, Jeb Bush. Wait, let me finish!

For the Democrats, Hillary Clinton. Calm down!

Why, you ask? Because they represent everything the parties have come to stand for, and therefore, they are the best chance we have of electing a third party candidate as President. :D

*stamps "FUCKING GENIUS" on LG's forehead, so the world can recognize his brilliance*

Too bad it's a permanent ink that will never come off! :D

Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz. :D

*stamps "FUCKING GENIUS" on LG's forehead, so the world can recognize his brilliance*

Too bad it's a permanent ink that will never come off! :D

I can live with that. ;)

Hear, hear! :D

*high-fives Fengzhuozi*

Sorry, didn't see this...thanks.

So he could handle the dirty money of government but not cable news?????

Yup. At the very least he can change the role of president from puppet to leader.

Yup. At the very least he can change the role of president from puppet to leader.

Puppet of Unions or puppet of corporations is still a puppet. Not that he would be that, but he would be very liberal. Both Dems and Reps are puppets. The people are too far away from the government to really have control over it.

Puppet of Unions or puppet of corporations is still a puppet. Not that he would be that, but he would be very liberal. Both Dems and Reps are puppets. The people are too far away from the government to really have control over it.

I imagine he could change that. He's widely known as a man of the people, very approachable, very intelligent. He's a good person. He'd do well to represent us.

not bush.

I imagine he could change that. He's widely known as a man of the people, very approachable, very intelligent. He's a good person. He'd do well to represent us.

I agree that he would probably be a good man while there. I disagree with his stance on most issues, but I still like him more than almost any politician. I just think he would do more good in the other role.

I agree that he would probably be a good man while there. I disagree with his stance on most issues, but I still like him more than almost any politician. I just think he would do more good in the other role.

Any good news anchor's ultimate destination is the white house. Their job is to better the government through reporting its faults and successes. He'd be doing the same job, but we wouldn't have to wait for someone else to fuck up for him to do something good with it.

I imagine he could change that. He's widely known as a man of the people, very approachable, very intelligent. He's a good person. He'd do well to represent us.

There is a difference between knowing that someone is screwing something up and being able to fix it. I don't see him doing tons different than a democrat would do. He MIGHT try to fix campaign and slush funds and election, but other than that...nope.

Personally, I'd like to see either Generals Wesley Clark, Tony Zinni, or Colin Powell run. I think they could fix this mess of a government we have right now, and get us back on the right track.

Zinni or Powell for sure.

Ron Paul. Not that that would ever happen... :(

Having met the man personally, I can say "Dr. No" is one of the very few pols I can look dead in the eye and have even an iota of respect for. However, and I really really REALLY hate to have to admit this, but he's over 70 and that's getting into :( territory.

For the Republicans, Jeb Bush. Wait, let me finish!

For the Democrats, Hillary Clinton. Calm down!

Why, you ask? Because they represent everything the parties have come to stand for, and therefore, they are the best chance we have of electing a third party candidate as President. :D

Amen.

Some others I'd easily vote for:
Jesse Ventura
Kinky Friedman
Steve Wynn Kubby
George Phillies
Doug Stanhope
Charles Jay
Rudy Giuliani
Mark Sanford (anyone who lets live, unhousetrained pigs loose (http://greenvilleonline.com/news/2004/05/27/2004052732244.htm) in their state legiostlative chamber as a protest against pork barrel spending gets a :D from me!)

And a few I'd vote for w/out too many qualms:
Michael Bloomberg
Chuck Hagel
Mitt Romney
George Pataki
John McCain


The two candidates I will not be voting for under any circumstances:
Earl Dodge
Gene Amondson

There is a difference between knowing that someone is screwing something up and being able to fix it. I don't see him doing tons different than a democrat would do. He MIGHT try to fix campaign and slush funds and election, but other than that...nope.

He's been doing the daily show for a long, long time. He knows assloads about the way the government works, officially and otherwise.

I think he'd be able to clean up much of the bullshit that goes on. Not just that, but after Bush, having someone like Stewart in the office will be such a lightning-quick reverse schizm, the country will explode with joy.

Actually that would be an LBJ v George W. election.

Oh lordy! A match made in hell. If thems were the only choices I'd have to go with my roots, hold my nose, and vote for that damnable SOB LBJ. At least he was a real Texan and not a fake like GW.

(GW, consider yourself on notice that Texas does not want you anymore. You can take your sorry ass back home to New Haven Conneticut.)

Honestly, I'd like my dad to run in '08, but he never would. Plain ol' Bobs like him wouldn't survive politics -- the people who would make the best presidents could never run because the qualities of a good candidate and the qualities of a good president are diametrically opposed.

I fully expect John McCain to win the Republican nomination and then, in true bipartisan fashion, select Joe Lieberman as his running mate.

And they'd win. It would be awful. I've never seen two people more pro-censorship.

I wish Condi would run. I don't like her as Secretary of State (she's not much of a diplomat), but as President I like her chances.

Hillary could steal the election by choosing Oprah as a running mate.

Kinky Freidman, because come on, how hard could it be?

And also Hillary because of the comic value of seeing her falling on her face.

Honestly, I'd like my dad to run in '08, but he never would. Plain ol' Bobs like him wouldn't survive politics -- the people who would make the best presidents could never run because the qualities of a good candidate and the qualities of a good president are diametrically opposed.

Lotta truth in that. I'd say the same for my father, if he weren't slowly recovering from open heart surgery. :(

I fully expect John McCain to win the Republican nomination and then, in true bipartisan fashion, select Joe Lieberman as his running mate.

And they'd win. It would be awful. I've never seen two people more pro-censorship.

I wish Condi would run. I don't like her as Secretary of State (she's not much of a diplomat), but as President I like her chances.

Hillary could steal the election by choosing Oprah as a running mate.

Lieberman, Condi, or Billary/Oprah? The horror, the horror. :::weeps:::

Kinky Freidman, because come on, how hard could it be?
No one who thinks the internet is the devil should be President.

Anyone who harness the power of The Oprah will always win in a landslide! Of course the power may go through Oprah's head and she becomes the first black woman dictator who has a book club!

No one who thinks the internet is the devil should be President.
was he serious when he said it?

No one who thinks the internet is the devil should be President.

Say what? Back that up or be branded a liar.

was he serious when he said it?

AFAIK, he's said nothing of the sort at all.

Powell and a moderate Dem. I really like Powell but he is too much of a good guy to be President. I could also go for McCain in spite of some things I disagree with him about.

In all honesty people need to realize that in a who is worse election like the last one, they should vote third party. There is usually a viable candidate and we need to show that we can actually think about issues.

Vote Libertarian!

Truth of the matter is that I didn't really see a viable 3rd party candidate in the last presidential election.

I think the 3rd parties need to realize that they're going to get their foot in the door by going up the chain, not trying to jump in at the top. All of the money they spend on presidential elections should get pumped into more local candidates. You get people in local seats, you'll then get them in state seats, and then eventually federal.

Truth of the matter is that I didn't really see a viable 3rd party candidate in the last presidential election.

I think the 3rd parties need to realize that they're going to get their foot in the door by going up the chain, not trying to jump in at the top. All of the money they spend on presidential elections should get pumped into more local candidates. You get people in local seats, you'll then get them in state seats, and then eventually federal.

I agree with this statement.

I wish Condi would run. I don't like her as Secretary of State (she's not much of a diplomat), but as President I like her chances.

Ugh. I wouldn't vote for her if she were the only person on the ballot. I'd cast a vote for Colin Powell if I were looking for someone out of the Bush administration. At least he had the balls to get fed up with it and leave, rather than just being a yes-(wo)man like Condi.


Speaking of "the only people on the ballot". I would fully support adding a "none of the above" option. If "None of the above" won, we'd rehold the election in abbreviated form.

Bill Cosby

The way things are going in the US im sure there wont even be an 08' election. It'll just be G. W. Bush/ republican love fest about how awesome they think they are.

I fully expect John McCain to win the Republican nomination and then, in true bipartisan fashion, select Joe Lieberman as his running mate.

And they'd win. It would be awful. I've never seen two people more pro-censorship.

I wish Condi would run. I don't like her as Secretary of State (she's not much of a diplomat), but as President I like her chances.

Hillary could steal the election by choosing Oprah as a running mate.
And have Dr Phill as secertary of defence..;)

Truth of the matter is that I didn't really see a viable 3rd party candidate in the last presidential election.

I think the 3rd parties need to realize that they're going to get their foot in the door by going up the chain, not trying to jump in at the top. All of the money they spend on presidential elections should get pumped into more local candidates. You get people in local seats, you'll then get them in state seats, and then eventually federal.

Yeah, you think they'd think that, but no.

Yeah, you think they'd think that, but no.

Are you arguing with what I said, or reiterating the fact that the 3rd parties are not doing this?

Honestly, I'd like my dad to run in '08, but he never would. Plain ol' Bobs like him wouldn't survive politics -- the people who would make the best presidents could never run because the qualities of a good candidate and the qualities of a good president are diametrically opposed.

Lotta truth in that. I'd say the same for my father, if he weren't slowly recovering from open heart surgery. :(

Well, hopefully he makes a full recovery. What an interesting campaign that would make: Joe Schmoe vs. Plain ol' Bob.

[Reporter 1] What kind of dirt we got on him?
[Reporter 2] Well, last year he only bought 2 boxes of Girl Scout cookies.
[Reporter 1] I know, we can go with 'Doesn't support charities. Hates the poor.'
[Reporter 2] But he is poor.

Ugh. I wouldn't vote for her if she were the only person on the ballot. I'd cast a vote for Colin Powell if I were looking for someone out of the Bush administration. At least he had the balls to get fed up with it and leave, rather than just being a yes-(wo)man like Condi.


Condi would have to have principles to get fed up and leave.

It doesn't matter who runs, just write in "Big Jim P" and I'll have the nations problems solved within the first year. The second year I'll take care of the worlds problems:cool:

Personally, I'd like to see either Generals Wesley Clark, Tony Zinni, or Colin Powell run. I think they could fix this mess of a government we have right now, and get us back on the right track.

Steward/Colbert, Independent (or Democrat if it had to be either Dem or Rep)

Noam Chomsky, though admittedly he is old...but less senile than Reagan.

It doesn't matter who runs, just write in "Big Jim P" and I'll have the nations problems solved within the first year. The second year I'll take care of the worlds problems:cool:

PRAISE TO HIM, JIM-BOB. HE WHO FINDS US STUFF, AND GETS ME A JOB, JIM-BOB!

George Bush Jr, again.




... as far away as possible. Badump-crash!

No?

George Bush Jr, again.




... as far away as possible. Badump-crash!

No?

*slaps with fish*

*slaps with fish*

*Grabs fish and slaps Hamilay again*

Truth of the matter is that I didn't really see a viable 3rd party candidate in the last presidential election.

I think the 3rd parties need to realize that they're going to get their foot in the door by going up the chain, not trying to jump in at the top. All of the money they spend on presidential elections should get pumped into more local candidates. You get people in local seats, you'll then get them in state seats, and then eventually federal.

Their candidates were just as viable as Bush or Kerry except that their faces weren't plastered everywhere. Many of the parties do go after the local elections, but nobody sees them with a big name so they don't get votes. They need some sort of affirmation on the national level that they can make a difference before people will vote for them on the local. Kind of a circular thing.

Ron Paul. Not that that would ever happen... :(

While I'd be greatly happy with a Ron Paul presidency, it's not going to happen.

As such, I'd like a McCain-Giuliani or Giuliani-McCain ticket. That would make me happy.

As for the dems, I don't know who I'd really like there.

Noam Chomsky, though admittedly he is old...but less senile than Reagan.

That'd be ironic, an anarchist running for public office. :p

While I'd be greatly happy with a Ron Paul presidency, it's not going to happen.

Dr. Paul is the only politician in Washington who is pro-liberty, pro-constitution, and pro-American.

Their candidates were just as viable as Bush or Kerry except that their faces weren't plastered everywhere.

Indeed, but that doesn't make them actually viable, now does it? There was no one in a 3rd party that I thought was better than either, and thus I attempted to vote for someone who had a chance in hell of pushing Bush out. Unfortunately, there weren't quite enough votes for that.

Many of the parties do go after the local elections, but nobody sees them with a big name so they don't get votes. They need some sort of affirmation on the national level that they can make a difference before people will vote for them on the local. Kind of a circular thing.

Not true. There are 3rd party candidates who win local elections, largely because people care less about party politics in the local elections - they're more likely to look at a candidate, rather than a party. And local politicians are less likely to be cookie-cutter versions of a given party. The problem is that the parties are spreading themselves too thin. They're so worried about getting that big office that they don't give the kind of support they should to the people they have a chance of electing - the local offices.