"god" threads
Slaughterhouse five
02-10-2006, 02:18
why are there so many God threads?
i dont think there is one page of the NSG forums that doesnt have some mention of God
If you love God and believe he is the almighty power, you dont have to create 50 threads and mention it in every single one of your posts. it is from such reactions such as this that will get people to bash you for being a christian.
If you dont beleive in God, Then stop talking about such imaginary charecters. you are not going to convince the world with your "proof god doesnt exist" threads. When you start talking about how God doesnt exist it only starts an arguement with the other side where the arguement just goes on for pages rambling on and on about the same damn thing.
now lets get back to the threads that really matter. like who the sexiest ns'er is and if Bush is the devil or not
The Devil is just as religious as God.
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Slaughterhouse five
02-10-2006, 02:22
The Devil is just as religious as God.
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yes i know it is.
Edwardis
02-10-2006, 02:28
Speaking from as Biblical Christian, I find it impossible to not carry religion into every aspect of my life. In fact, I think less of (probably sinfully) those who pretend that they are able to separate their relgious beliefs from certain areas of their lives.
The Black Forrest
02-10-2006, 02:33
Speaking from as Biblical Christian, I find it impossible to not carry religion into every aspect of my life. In fact, I think less of (probably sinfully) those who pretend that they are able to separate their relgious beliefs from certain areas of their lives.
Judge not sweety.....
As Edwardis has shown, they can't help themselves but not blather on about it.
Edwardis
02-10-2006, 02:40
Judge not sweety.....
As Edwardis has shown, they can't help themselves but not blather on about it.
And it appears to me that you cannot help but blather on about your religious opinion that religion should not be talked about in some places. And it is a religios belief, because you are making a statement about many things, the most important of which is that the topic of God is not important enough to be included in everything.
New Granada
02-10-2006, 02:48
Speaking from as troll, I find itimpossible to not carry religion into very aspect of my life.In fact, I thin less of (probably sifully) those whopretend that tey are able to sepaat their relgous bliefs from certain areas of heir lives.
Yeah sure
Muravyets
02-10-2006, 02:50
And it appears to me that you cannot help but blather on about your religious opinion that religion should not be talked about in some places. And it is a religios belief, because you are making a statement about many things, the most important of which is that the topic of God is not important enough to be included in everything.
Well, Edwardis, you can hardly fault people for saying the reason that there are so many "god" threads is that people keep bringing up religion, and if you yourself say that you can't help bringing it up, well, then...
Edwardis
02-10-2006, 02:51
Yeah sure
I really don't like it when people change the content of what they are quoting without pointing it out. It confuses the issue and makes the other person look bad. If you have truly thought the issue out, you should be able to make a coherent argument without resorting to libel/slander.
Edwardis
02-10-2006, 02:53
Well, Edwardis, you can hardly fault people for saying the reason that there are so many "god" threads is that people keep bringing up religion, and if you yourself say that you can't help bringing it up, well, then...
I never said I found fault with religion being brought up. I said I found fault with those who say that they can keep their religious views separte from any topic.
New Granada
02-10-2006, 02:56
I really dn't like it when peope change the conent of what they are quoing without pointing it out. It conuses te isse nd makes he oher erson look bd. Ifyou have truly thought the isue out, you should be able to make a coheent argument withut resorting to lbl/sander.
You can you use the search button if you're interested in that.
Edwardis
02-10-2006, 02:58
You can you use the search button if you're interested in that.
Why do you insist on deleting letters from my posts?!?!?! :mad:
And what about the search button?
Felimid MacFal
02-10-2006, 03:00
why are there so many God threads?
i dont think there is one page of the NSG forums that doesnt have some mention of God
oh yay! another one!
Muravyets
02-10-2006, 03:07
I never said I found fault with religion being brought up. I said I found fault with those who say that they can keep their religious views separte from any topic.
Mm-hm. But it's really just your personal experience that religious views cannot be separated from any other topic, isn't it? I mean, it's YOUR experience that YOU view everything through the prism of your religious beliefs, right?
How can you know that everybody thinks the same way you do? You can't, quite frankly. No one can know that. So you really have no basis for saying that everyone sees things from a religious point of view and that people who say otherwise are lying.
So, in fact, the post you were responding to was correct. There are so many "god" threads because certain religious people keep bringing religion into every topic.
BTW, there is a difference between developing your views from a religious viewpoint and bringing religion into a discussion.
New Granada
02-10-2006, 03:07
Why d you insist on deleting letter from my posts?!?!?! :mad:
And what about the search button?
It would be wrong of me to reproduce troll/spam posts accurately, they have to be neutralized with random deletion.
If you want to read arguments pertaining to this thread, they are available in threads about the same topic which have previously been made. The search button and patience are all you need.
Muravyets
02-10-2006, 03:09
Actually, I think there are so many "god" threads because religion has become so involved with politics and public life lately. You'll notice that most of the "god" threads are dominated by Americans. Religiosity is practically an epidemic here, and a highly controversial one. You hear it everywhere, from all parties.
Edwardis
02-10-2006, 03:10
Mm-hm. But it's really just your personal experience that religious views cannot be separated from any other topic, isn't it? I mean, it's YOUR experience that YOU view everything through the prism of your religious beliefs, right?
How can you know that everybody thinks the same way you do? You can't, quite frankly. No one can know that. So you really have no basis for saying that everyone sees things from a religious point of view and that people who say otherwise are lying.
So, in fact, the post you were responding to was correct. There are so many "god" threads because certain religious people keep bringing religion into every topic.
BTW, there is a difference between developing your views from a religious viewpoint and bringing religion into a discussion.
Okay, I'll buy the last point.
However, your other points are based on a definition of religion that I may not agree with. I define religion as the application of theology and theology as the notion(s) about God and Man's relationship with God. So, if your notion is that there is no God, you have several ways to apply that notion. But it will always affect everything you do. Every thought you have or decision you make will in some way come back to that application of that notion of God.
Edwardis
02-10-2006, 03:12
It would be wrong of me to reproduce troll/spam posts accurately, they have to be neutralized with random deletion.
Haha. :rolleyes: I don't understand why you consider me a troll.
If you want to read arguments pertaining to this thread, they are available in threads about the same topic which have previously been made. The search button and patience are all you need.
Thank you for this information. But how does it help me?
New Granada
02-10-2006, 03:17
Haa. :rolleye: I don't understand wy you consider me a tro
Thank you for this information. But ow does it help me?
A)
If you hve truly thouht the isue out, you shoud be able o make a coherent arument without resorting to libel/slander.
In response to A
Edwardis
02-10-2006, 03:19
A)
In response to A
Can you please just come out and say what you mean? You are confusing me and are in no way convincing me of anything.
New Granada
02-10-2006, 03:22
Cn you please just cme ut and say whatyou men? You are confusig m and are in Norway convincing me of anything.
No no no, if you're confused you're supposed to use the search feature.
Edwardis
02-10-2006, 03:26
No no no, if you're confused you're supposed to use the search feature.
Never mind. When you are ready to be serious, or at least coherent, let me know. Have a nice day.
New Granada
02-10-2006, 03:42
Never mind. When you ae ready to be serious, or at least coherent, let me know. Have a nice da.
The thread is complaining about there being threads rehashing the same tired pointless waste of time that you want to stir up here.
If you want elaborated reasoning for any relevant position on the issue, it has been posted already in another thread and you can find it with the search engine.
Edwardis
02-10-2006, 03:44
The thread is complaining about there being threads rehashing the same tired pointless waste of time that you want to stir up here.
If you want elaborated reasoning for any relevant position on the issue, it has been posted already in another thread and you can find it with the search engine.
Thank you. Though what I was arguing was pertinent to this thread. I'm saying that what the OP wants (something free from relgious influence) is impossible.
New Granada
02-10-2006, 03:48
Thank you. Though what I was arguing was pertinent to this thrad. I'm saying that what the OP wants (something free from relgious influence) is impossible.
Not at all, the mods could sticky one thread called "talkin bout that gods," delete any other threads on the subject, and punish anyone who tried to muck other threads up with it.
Alternatively, anyone who wanted to argue about it could just look up old threads where it is argued, find opposing viewpoints he fancyies himself able to counter, type up an essay and read it whenever he gets the inclination again.
The Black Forrest
02-10-2006, 03:50
And it appears to me that you cannot help but blather on about your religious opinion that religion should not be talked about in some places.
Awww sweety. Are you judging me again?
Religion means many things to different people.
For me. It is deeply personal.
And it is a religios belief, because you are making a statement about many things, the most important of which is that the topic of God is not important enough to be included in everything.
I don't have to talk about it all the time to prove my faith.
I don't expect everybody else to know about my faith to prove I have it.
I don't expect everybody else to live my moral code.
I don't devalue a person if they live by another moral code.
I don't have to thank God for every action I do to prove my faith.
God knows what's in your heart.
If you have to talk about it all the time, then maybe your faith is not as strong as you like us let alone yourself to believe.
Muravyets
02-10-2006, 03:58
Okay, I'll buy the last point.
However, your other points are based on a definition of religion that I may not agree with. I define religion as the application of theology and theology as the notion(s) about God and Man's relationship with God. So, if your notion is that there is no God, you have several ways to apply that notion. But it will always affect everything you do. Every thought you have or decision you make will in some way come back to that application of that notion of God.
But here you are again just applying your own standards (I mean the standards that you yourself follow) to other people, without actually knowing that they are thinking the way you say they are.
A person who does not believe in a god may very well go through his or her entire life without thinking about that god and/or his/her disbelief, in any way at all. Unless you bring it up, that is. Why would anyone look at any topic or issue through the prism of something they don't believe exists? Think of something you don't believe in -- mermaids, just to pull something off the top of my head. Do you think of everything in your life in terms of "God, yes/mermaids, no"? Or do you go whole days without reminding yourself that there is no such thing as a mermaid?
So why would someone who does not believe in God shape their thinking around that disbelief rather than around something they do believe in?
The only person who perceives an effect of other people's lack of belief in God on their views is you. You assume that all ideas must be formed in relation to a concept of God, so you assume that atheists' ideas are formed around a lack of God. But that is nothing but your assumption. You really don't know how other people form their ideas unless they can explain their reasoning to you, and even then, you'll only get a superficial impression because it is impossible to really know what is in another person's mind.
Lunatic Goofballs
02-10-2006, 03:58
*wanders through the thread chanting,* Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem. *whacks self on the head wth a board.*
Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem. *whacks self on the head wth a board.*
Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem. *whacks self on the head wth a board.*
Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem. *whacks self on the head wth a board.*
*passes out*
HotRodia
02-10-2006, 03:58
Cn you please just cme ut and say whatyou men? You are confusig m and are in Norway convincing me of anything.
No no no, if you're confused you're supposed to use the search feature.
New Granada, don't be altering folk's quotes like that to annoy them. It's baiting.
Not at all, the mods could sticky one thread called "talkin bout that gods," delete any other threads on the subject, and punish anyone who tried to muck other threads up with it.
We could, but don't expect it to happen anytime soon.
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