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Today I was bored, so I put up the orange lights and the stupid blow-up ghost for mother..

Yes, halloween decorations.

Anyway.. it got me thinking about the halloween debate between Kat and Philosopy..

How in the UK it's an evil pain in the ass and whatever..

Well..

Are halloweens bad in your area? Are they good? Are they that time of year where you drop acid and moon the lil kids?

Also, when you were growing up, what were the good and bad halloween experiences you've had?

halloween= GOOD

Every year, you get to drss up, walk around and get candy. Then you eat a bunch of it.

How, exactly, is that bad? It stimulates the economy and is FUN!

*preps costume and goes to get candy for the others*

When is hallowe'en? I saw gaudy crap in Asda, so it must be soon?

I live on the second (American: Third) floor... *Note to self: buy water-bombs*

Bloody time of year again.

yayayayayay! holloween!:p

When is hallowe'en? I saw gaudy crap in Asda, so it must be soon?
They're accepting payment in ASBOs this year so none of the little terrors miss out.

Halloween in a council estate. Wonderful. :rolleyes:

halloween= GOOD

Every year, you get to drss up, walk around and get candy. Then you eat a bunch of it.

How, exactly, is that bad? It stimulates the economy and is FUN!

*preps costume and goes to get candy for the others*

Halloween has, for me, always been one of those holidays that great things are expected, but everything turns to crap. A bit like a warmer New Year's eve.

In NYC there's a halloween parade every year, and for 8 years straight I tried to get people to go. Every year everything seems ready to go on halloween afternoon, and then it all falls to crap. People pick fights. They don't show up. They cancel at the last minute for no reason.

I've officially written halloween off. Now it's all about teaching my daughter how to run an extortion racket.

They're accepting payment in ASBOs this year so none of the little terrors miss out.
:D

They're accepting payment in ASBOs this year so none of the little terrors miss out.

Is it wrong that one of my life goals is to take a vacation in the UK just so I can get an ASBO? Does it come with some kind of ticket? Cause that'd be great to frame.

Halloween is that night when I bust out the crazy-good cider, put on the KGB hat, car coat, and fill up the ol' KGB flask with Vodka and get drunk as piss and pass out on my friend's futon with a girl wearing a playboy bunny costume (which she admittedly probably should not be wearing) passed out on my lap.

Yeah, that's halloween.

Halloween has, for me, always been one of those holidays that great things are expected, but everything turns to crap. A bit like a warmer New Year's eve.

In NYC there's a halloween parade every year, and for 8 years straight I tried to get people to go. Every year everything seems ready to go on halloween afternoon, and then it all falls to crap. People pick fights. They don't show up. They cancel at the last minute for no reason.

I've officially written halloween off. Now it's all about teaching my daughter how to run an extortion racket.

Don't sound so disappointed. Every child needs to know how to run the rackets. Is she old enough yet to run numbers on the corner for you?

Though I also have similar problems getting decent party together, and I, too, finally gave up. Me and my gang, we used to do the whole "Yay, the dead come home!" thing. We had seances, divination, loud music, liquor. It was great. I used to host a regular Halloween party at which up to 75 people would be crammed into a single 4-room NYC apartment. And that was just the guests we could see. Ah, but those days are over, and the gang has moved on, and now I'm surrounded by superstitious weirdos and Bostonians so snobby they can't have fun at anything.

I've learned for the price of a costume and a few hours work you can buy the candy you really want.

And I dont like Halloween now as much. The costumes are less inventive.

I've learned for the price of a costume and a few hours work you can buy the candy you really want.

And I dont like Halloween now as much. The costumes are less inventive.

Well what do you expect, the movies are all sequels.

I don't celebrate Halloween. I liked it when I was younger. The dressing up, the candy, the walking around the town in the cool autumn air.

My family doesn't celebrate halloween, but if kids come to my door even though my porch light is off I do mean stuff to them.

(like last year I made them close their eyes and when they weren't looking I dropped scoops of ice cream in their bags, they came back later and egged my neighbors house I am pretty sure they meant it to be mine, but I didn't say anything)

My family doesn't celebrate halloween, but if kids come to my door even though my porch light is off I do mean stuff to them.

(like last year I made them close their eyes and when they weren't looking I dropped scoops of ice cream in their bags, they came back later and egged my neighbors house I am pretty sure they meant it to be mine, but I didn't say anything)

Hehehehe!

Hehehehe!

The simpler response is to hide a glass of root beer in my bag for her to make a float out of.

My family doesn't celebrate halloween, but if kids come to my door even though my porch light is off I do mean stuff to them.

(like last year I made them close their eyes and when they weren't looking I dropped scoops of ice cream in their bags, they came back later and egged my neighbors house I am pretty sure they meant it to be mine, but I didn't say anything)

was it razorblade-pecan swirl?

was it razorblade-pecan swirl?

actually it was rainbow sorbet


it was freezerburned though so we weren't going to eat it anyway.

Halloween has, for me, always been one of those holidays that great things are expected, but everything turns to crap. A bit like a warmer New Year's eve.

In NYC there's a halloween parade every year, and for 8 years straight I tried to get people to go. Every year everything seems ready to go on halloween afternoon, and then it all falls to crap. People pick fights. They don't show up. They cancel at the last minute for no reason.

I've officially written halloween off. Now it's all about teaching my daughter how to run an extortion racket.

Go down to the Village and see the parade -- I guarantee it'll be a spectacle! :) My friend joined it once and had a blast.

I shall, as usual, be dressed up and handing out candy to the kiddies. I imagine we'll see some of the Cars characters, Over the Hedge, and a half-dozen Supermans this year.

I've learned for the price of a costume and a few hours work you can buy the candy you really want.

And I dont like Halloween now as much. The costumes are less inventive.

Three words: Make Your Own. ;)

actually it was rainbow sorbet


it was freezerburned though so we weren't going to eat it anyway.

I was gonna say, "biggest waste of sorbet ever"

I would have given them random useless items, like a shoe, or a close-hanger, maybe a toe-nail clipper be creaive.

(Although the sorbet would have ruined their candy)

I was gonna say, "biggest waste of sorbet ever"

I would have given them random useless items, like a shoe, or a close-hanger, maybe a toe-nail clipper be creative.

Ruffy and I are deciding on what I will hand out this year....

I might start a poll closer to the day of you know?

I think Halloween is the greatestestest day ever. I would hand out candies/treats to the lil kiddies in my neighbourhood, but unfortunately my parents are devout Christians, and in their eyes... Halloween = worshipping the devil. So no candy from me... :(

Halloween is great for several reasons.

1. Candy
2. Halloween parties that give me an excuse to drink and see lots of pretty girls that are half naked in their "costumes"
3. It celebrates evil and death and other great things. Unlike that bullshit Christmas. I fucking hate chirstmas.
4. It means its getting closer to cool weather.
5. Candy
6. How can you not like Halloween!?

Ruffy and I are deciding on what I will hand out this year....

I might start a poll closer to the day of you know?

How about those wax bottle candies, with all the candy drained out?

I love Hallowe'en.

It is seriously the best bastardized pagan holiday.

My list of best bastardized pagan holidays goes like this:

1. Hallowe'en
2. St Patrick's Day
3. Christmas
4. Easter

My birthday ties with Hallowe'en for best day of the year, though I should add that St Patrick's day is pretty damn close.

Halloween is quite possibly my favorite holiday. What other day can I frighten the bejesus out of little kids and reward the ones that don't run off with candy without getting arrested? :)

I want to go as Dr. Strangelove next year. Not enough time to prepare now...

Halloween is quite possibly my favorite holiday. What other day can I frighten the bejesus out of little kids and reward the ones that don't run off with candy without getting arrested? :)

I think you'll be too (two :p) busy this year to (two :eek:) do that.

I think you'll be too (two :p) busy this year to (two :eek:) do that.

:eek:

:(

:)

My family doesn't celebrate halloween, but if kids come to my door even though my porch light is off I do mean stuff to them.

(like last year I made them close their eyes and when they weren't looking I dropped scoops of ice cream in their bags, they came back later and egged my neighbors house I am pretty sure they meant it to be mine, but I didn't say anything)

niiiiiice.

In my family, we give the kids candies. UNLESS they are not wearing a costume, or if they are too old (20 year olds who go trick or treating are just beggars. Parents who ask for candy are sad, too).

You know how when you order out chinese food, they always give you more duck sauce, mustard sauce, and soy sauce than you could possibly need? Well, we save it all up. Until halloween. And then those kids who are too old or without costume get our extra condiments for chinese food.

Once we ran out, and had to resort to ketchup and salt and pepper packets from McDonalds :p

:eek:

:(

:)

I claim god father.

Halloween: A lttle voodoo, a few demons, a sacrificed goat...Hey. What do you mean we aren't supposed to take it seriously?

niiiiiice.

In my family, we give the kids candies. UNLESS they are not wearing a costume, or if they are too old (20 year olds who go trick or treating are just beggars. Parents who ask for candy are sad, too).

You know how when you order out chinese food, they always give you more duck sauce, mustard sauce, and soy sauce than you could possibly need? Well, we save it all up. Until halloween. And then those kids who are too old or without costume get our extra condiments for chinese food.

Once we ran out, and had to resort to ketchup and salt and pepper packets from McDonalds :p

That's a great idea!

I'd do that, but there are no people that age here :(

Take me trick or treating in Philly! *begs*

halloween= GOOD

Every year, you get to drss up, walk around and get candy. Then you eat a bunch of it.

How, exactly, is that bad? It stimulates the economy and is FUN!

*preps costume and goes to get candy for the others*

You missed some essential aspects in your description. To correct it:

You dress up in disguise (so you can't be recognised), walk around and threaten to damage the property of anyone who does not give you candy.

Now do you see what is wrong with it?

I love Halloween. Better than Sex!

Top Ten Reasons
Why Halloween is Better Than
~~ SEX ~~

~~10~~
You are guaranteed to get at least a little something in the sack


~~9~~
If you get tired, wait 10 minutes and go at it again


~~8~~
The uglier you look, the easier it is to get some


~~7~~
You don't have to compliment the person who gave you candy


~~6~~
The person you're with doesn't fantasize you're someone else


~~5~~
40 years from now, you'll still enjoy candy


~~4~~
If you get a stomach ache, it won't last 9 months


~~3~~
It doesn't matter if the kids hear you moaning and groaning


~~2~~
Much less guilt the next morning


~~1~~
If you don't get what you want, you can always go next door!

You missed some essential aspects in your description. To correct it:

You dress up in disguise (so you can't be recognised), walk around and threaten to damage the property of anyone who does not give you candy.

Now do you see what is wrong with it?
You don't threaten to damage the property of people who won't give you candy. :rolleyes:

You missed some essential aspects in your description. To correct it:

You dress up in disguise (so you can't be recognised), walk around and threaten to damage the property of anyone who does not give you candy.

Now do you see what is wrong with it?

No. :)

You don't threaten to damage the property of people who won't give you candy. :rolleyes:

He's talking about the origin of the phrase "trick or treat." Dating himself somewhat. That's sooo early last century.

Though in places like Vermont, Halloween is still a holiday of vandalism. The most common involves pumpkin massacres, but I hear a few enterprising young folk still like to try the old "putting the truck on the barn roof" trick.

The Vermonters don't see anything wrong with it, either. It's Halloween, baby. Lock up your truck or pay the price.

I claim god father.

I claimed Greenland once. Nobody cared. ;)

Ooooo...Halloween!

My favorite holiday! I'm going as a Viking this year...I've already made my own costume. Now I just need to decide which party I'm going to.

The kids can knock on my door all they like...nobody will be home! :p

You don't threaten to damage the property of people who won't give you candy. :rolleyes:

Absoultely not. If you threaten them first, then they know who to blame.

It is always best to choose a couple candy-misers at random and make examples out of them without prior warning. :)

I claimed Greenland once. Nobody cared. ;)

OOOoooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooOOOH!

need some ice for that BURN?!


sorry, I need sleep.

OOOoooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooOOOH!

need some ice for that BURN?!


sorry, I need sleep.

You know, I hate you for that.

I tried to not accept that burn.. :(

*bombs Boston*

Halloween is really a non issue here. It's not a holiday & no-one really pays much attention to it.

Halloween is really a non issue here. It's not a holiday & no-one really pays much attention to it.

That will change when I'm in charge!

That will change when I'm in charge!

I don't know whether that's a good or bad thing! :p

I don't know whether that's a good or bad thing! :p

:)

I never participated in the candy-acquiring or costume part, being the loser I was (and am). The whole thing seems fairly pointless to me, but I suppose it's an excuse to eat candy, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Children wanting candy should be appeased on that day; anything else seems unnecessarily cruel.

the only legitimate american traditions are those of it's diverse indiginous cultures. the autumnal equanox should be returned to being a day to honor the dead.

of course the autumnal equanox is already a month passed. mocking the unknown that can be very wonderful and beautiful annoys me no end.

being generous on the other hand, even with something as less then totaly wonderful zoozoos, is pretty cool. we ought to have more days on which we skin dance and shape shift or pretend to, but they ought to be celebrations of life's diversity and not mockeries of it.

my two cents for whatever it's worth.

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the only legitimate american traditions are those of it's diverse indiginous cultures. the autumnal equanox should be returned to being a day to honor the dead.

of course the autumnal equanox is already a month passed. mocking the unknown that can be very wonderful and beautiful annoys me no end.

being generous on the other hand, even with something as less then totaly wonderful zoozoos, is pretty cool. we ought to have more days on which we skin dance and shape shift or pretend to, but they ought to be celebrations of life's diversity and not mockeries of it.

my two cents for whatever it's worth.

=^^=
.../\...



My wife keeps asking me what religious activities I wish to observe on Halloween. Actually it is the one time a year that myfriends and family pay attention to and take my beliefs even semi-seriously.

in continental europe halloween is a stupid joke that is almost always ignored.

You missed some essential aspects in your description. To correct it:

You dress up in disguise (so you can't be recognised), walk around and threaten to damage the property of anyone who does not give you candy.

Now do you see what is wrong with it?

Perhaps it is the people where you are that are wrong, and not the holiday. Where I am no one threatens to damage property if you don't give out candy.

We can't help it if people in other places are uncivilized thugs.

Why don't we do something productive like ban Burberry, since obviously it causes Chavs?

...

Also, when you were growing up, what were the good and bad halloween experiences you've had?

Halloween is an excuse to knock on complete stranger's doors and demand candy. If you aren't a kid, and aren't wearing a cute costume, it's very enlightening. You might even get laid that way!

I did!

This will be my first halloween in college, so I expect alcohol and explosives and vandalism. Viva life!

the only legitimate american traditions are those of it's diverse indiginous cultures. the autumnal equanox should be returned to being a day to honor the dead.
...


Read Bill Bryson's "Made in America." Not because it proves any particular point, it's just a great read.

Perhaps it is the people where you are that are wrong, and not the holiday. Where I am no one threatens to damage property if you don't give out candy.

We can't help it if people in other places are uncivilized thugs.

Why don't we do something productive like ban Burberry, since obviously it causes Chavs?

Because it's easier to find a scapegoat than to address the actual problem. :)

Halloween is an excuse to knock on complete stranger's doors and demand candy. If you aren't a kid, and aren't wearing a cute costume, it's very enlightening. You might even get laid that way!

I did!

Now THAT is a treat! :)

Unless she had an std. Then it's a trick. :(

Unless you use a condom. Then it's a treat! :)

Unless she provided it and it was damaged. Then it's a trick. :(

:confused:

Because it's easier to find a scapegoat than to address the actual problem. :)

:eek: Who are you, and what did you do with LG?! ;)

*bombs Boston*

What is this issue you have with Boston? I saw your OnNotice board with it as well. I think you might be jealous. Can't figure what else it might be.

Btw, halloween sucks, kids bugging you for candy, the chance of having your house egged or lawn TP'd. Crazy drunk bastards on the road. Nothing much good about it.

Now THAT is a treat! :)

Unless she had an std. Then it's a trick. :(

Unless you use a condom. Then it's a treat! :)

Unless she provided it and it was damaged. Then it's a trick. :(

:confused:

I lived in Britain for one year. That (obviously) included one halloween.
The deal seems to be "give us a treat, or we'll play a trick on you."

It was a long time ago, and I might have got the wrong impression.

It's never really caught on in Aus, and with the modern concern about people who'd abduct the kids, or give them poisoned sweets, I really can't see it catching on any time soon.

Which is a shame really. I need some excuse to dress up as a koala and squirt complete strangers with a water-gun full of fish sauce. :D

:eek: Who are you, and what did you do with LG?! ;)

I'm his Evil Twin, Skippy.

...

Oh, alright! I'm his Good Twin, Skippy. :)

the only legitimate american traditions are those of it's diverse indiginous cultures. the autumnal equanox should be returned to being a day to honor the dead.

of course the autumnal equanox is already a month passed. mocking the unknown that can be very wonderful and beautiful annoys me no end.

being generous on the other hand, even with something as less then totaly wonderful zoozoos, is pretty cool. we ought to have more days on which we skin dance and shape shift or pretend to, but they ought to be celebrations of life's diversity and not mockeries of it.

my two cents for whatever it's worth.

=^^=
.../\...

....ever notice how clucking pagans talking about halloween are just as bad as clucking fundamentalist christians? You people take all the fun out of a perfectly secularized holiday.

Seriously people, we don't have enough days when people are allowed to enjoy themselves. Throw on an old Sisters of Mercy album, don the cheesy costume of your choice, and enjoy being a child again for one night a year.

Which is a shame really. I need some excuse to dress up as a koala and squirt complete strangers with a water-gun full of fish sauce. :D

I don't. But it's nice to hae a day where it's practically expected of you. :)

*wonders if she should teach on Halloween dressed as Lady Macbeth....*

*wonders if she should teach on Halloween dressed as Lady Macbeth....*

Didn't know you were a teacher! Just another thing to like about you! :)
But Lady Macbeth? You don't seem like her ...? :confused:

Didn't know you were a teacher! Just another thing to like about you! :)
But Lady Macbeth? You don't seem like her ...? :confused:

hence the fun of pretending

I love Halloween. Better than Sex!

~~6~~
The person you're with doesn't fantasize you're someone else


Well, they do, but they're supposed to, because you're pretending to be someone else.

See, that's the prblem with the modern school system:

You come as Lady MacBeth and you're teaching. You come as Lady Godiva and all hell breaks loose. :(

hence the fun of pretending

So ... I should dress up as a cop, and go door to door demanding bribes. For the owners not having a number on their letterbox or something.

And if they don't pony up, I can shoot them! Excellent!

Because it's easier to find a scapegoat than to address the actual problem. :)
Or you could be really controversial and address the problem of crime and prohibit a practice that teaches children that the most acceptable and enjoyable behaviour is to hold people to ransom.

"Kids, no means no! And when Daddy says no, what I really mean is go and frighten that old lady so that she gives it to you instead."

Good lesson, that.

Or you could be really controversial and address the problem of crime and prohibit a practice that teaches children that the most acceptable and enjoyable behaviour is to hold people to ransom.

"Kids, no means no! And when Daddy says no, what I really mean is go and frighten that old lady so that she gives it to you instead."

Good lesson, that.

Or encourage a practice that lets kids dress up once a year and go out having fun and getting candy.

I lived in Britain for one year. That (obviously) included one halloween.
The deal seems to be "give us a treat, or we'll play a trick on you."

It was a long time ago, and I might have got the wrong impression.
sorta....you say "trick or treat". Rarely, if ever, does someone actually have a trick pulled on them, even if they don't have candy

It's never really caught on in Aus, and with the modern concern about people who'd abduct the kids, or give them poisoned sweets, I really can't see it catching on any time soon. same concerns around here..younger kids go around with their parents, older kids with a big group of friends, so it is pretty safe. As for poisoned candy, again, the younger kids usually have their parents check it first, and older kids are old enough to know not to eat something with a damaged wrapper

gosh, i didn't know anyone didn't like halloween. what's wrong with another excuse for a party? and one that you can dress up for. i never really did halloween til i was in my late teens so i've never been 'trick-or-treating' but the dressing-up and general arsing around is always fun.

Growin up halloween was about wearing a costume and trick or treating. Now I have grown up Halloween is about wearing a costume and getting laid :p

What is this issue you have with Boston? I saw your OnNotice board with it as well. I think you might be jealous. Can't figure what else it might be.its because I'm here. its a wonderful rivalry we have going. He claims Boston sucks, when we all know Philly really does.

Btw, halloween sucks, kids bugging you for candy, the chance of having your house egged or lawn TP'd. Crazy drunk bastards on the road. Nothing much good about it.

Are we the only area that does mischief night? That is when houses get eggd/tp'd, atleast around here...

That's a great idea!

I'd do that, but there are no people that age here :(

Take me trick or treating in Philly! *begs*
I wont be in Philly for Halloween! Come to DC and trick or treat along Embassy Row! (I here the Russian embassy gives out shots:) )

~snip~

my two cents for whatever it's worth.

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Its two cents....worth two cents! Unless you wanted to exchange it, of course, in which case it may be worth less or more, depending on what you want to exchange it for.

its because I'm here. its a wonderful rivalry we have going. He claims Boston sucks, when we all know Philly really does.


Are we the only area that does mischief night? That is when houses get eggd/tp'd, atleast around here...
Philly does NOT suck. Philly kicks ass.

And yeah, we sort of have mischief night, but we've never had much of a problem with it.

yes finally i thread that i have complete control over.
i'm firstly sorry for being far less coherent than usuall.
my friend d trying to sober up so we go somewhere, while i 'll drink so he can drive, so he suggested internet building.
halloween is an irish tradition about the gods and fairies coming out before the eve of new years, which id the 1st of november, samhain(bad spelling).
you are supposed to treat the gods or else they will trick you. hense trick or treat.

I lived in Britain for one year. That (obviously) included one halloween.

in britain they dont celebrate halloween, its guy folkes night. its anti-halloween.

I give good candies to children who dress in something that's supposed to be frightening. I give really tiny and crappy candies to those in costumes that are supposed to be cute.

Cute costumes and Halloween do not go together

stop being whore, i cant remember what my point is. but fuck it, thats what you getb for freedom of speach.

I think you'll be too (two :p) busy this year to (two :eek:) do that.
:eek:

:(

:)
Record the little yellers and slow it down - perfect Helloween background sound!

As for the holiday - it really isn't one here, until a couple of years ago some "clever" marketing assmunches decided it'd be great to install it as another festivity to make money with. Just like Valentine's Day is not a real holiday here.

I enjoyed Helloween while being in the States, but here it's nothing but a sucky ripoff and does not carry the true spirit.

I always enjoyed Halloween when I was a kid, dressing up and going out to collect sacks of candy so my dentist could send his kids to the best schools (the sadistic bastard, he didn't believe in Novocaine). Anyway, it was fun.

Nowadays, if we get three kids on Halloween, it's cause for jubilation. I suppose it's the neighborhood, there really aren't a lot of kids around except for a few toddlers. The apartment building across the street's pretty much old fogeys or unmarried Yuppies. But we still buy the candy and I still bring it into the office on November 1st.

Didn't know you were a teacher! Just another thing to like about you! :)
But Lady Macbeth? You don't seem like her ...? :confused:

Aye, but as I will be teaching Macbeth next marking period (which falls in October) it will give me a tenuous excuse for dressing up. ;)

See, that's the prblem with the modern school system:

You come as Lady MacBeth and you're teaching. You come as Lady Godiva and all hell breaks loose. :(

;) I wouldn't inflict that on anyone.

in britain they dont celebrate halloween, its guy folkes night. its anti-halloween.

I thought that was Guy Fawkes, and it is celebrated on November 5th with fireworks, bonfires, and his being burned in effigy in rememberance of the Gunpowder Plot.

"Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot..."

Aye, but as I will be teaching Macbeth next marking period (which falls in October) it will give me a tenuous excuse for dressing up. ;)

and teaching Julius Caesar in March?

I always wanted to do that, I thought it would be cool

Beware the ides of March!

(it would be cool to read the murder scene ON March 15th!)

BTW:

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