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What if Saudi Arabia wasn't divided up after WWI & WWII?

Saudi Arabia wasn't divided up after WW1 or WW2.

Germany =/= Saudi Arabia.:p

The middle east was divided up by the powers, it used to be all under the control of Saudi Arabia

The middle east was divided up by the powers, it used to be all under the control of Saudi Arabia

I think you mean the Ottoman Empire, perhaps?

You mean the parts that weren't in the Ottoman empire? You have a weird view of history.

The middle east was divided up by the powers, it used to be all under the control of Saudi Arabia

No it wasn't. The Middle East was under the Ottoman Empire. Then the British took it from them and claimed them as colonies.

No it wasn't. The Middle East was under the Ottoman Empire. Then the British took it from them and claimed them as colonies.

Well that was short.

No it wasn't. The Middle East was under the Ottoman Empire. Then the British took it from them and claimed them as colonies.

Not all of it was.
This is the Ottoman Empire at its height:
http://www.skidmore.edu/academics/arthistory/ah369/Ottomanmap2.gif
Much of the Middle East was in fact not under the Ottoman Empire's control.

Not all of it was.
This is the Ottoman Empire at its height:
http://www.skidmore.edu/academics/arthistory/ah369/Ottomanmap2.gif
Much of the Middle East was in fact not under the Ottoman Empire's control.

And also worth noting is that map is from 1680, and its borders were substantially reduced from that in 1914.

I was referring to most of the middle east. I assumed you knew that Persia and Afghanistan were not included, as were two or three other states whos names I cannot remember (Yemen, Oman areas.) Also Saudi Arabia. However the Ottoman Empire did extend to the Sinai Penninsula, to Iran.

I have a more puzzling question; what if a pizza wasn't cut up into pieces, after it was cooked?

And also worth noting is that map is from 1680, and its borders were substantially reduced from that in 1914.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/firstworldwar/maps/map_images/ottoman_empire.gif

I have a more puzzling question; what if a pizza wasn't cut up into pieces, after it was cooked?

It would make it more difficult to eat?

i have, what is to me, a far more interesting alternative history proposal, and that is if there had never been a roman empire.

if there had not been a roman empire christianity would not have become militant. the library at alexandria would never have been burned and there would not have been the middle ages as we know them.

aggressiveness might never have come to be romantacized as it is now but perhapse as importantly, tecnology would not have had to cram into one century the making up for decades it had previously lost to fanatacism.

let's go back even further for one little detail, and let the greeks take defeat minoan crete and colonize israel/palistine either.

so we have in place of the middle ages on our mundane timeline, celtic europe and minoen mediteranian as moderate 'super powers' but getting along for the most part peacefully.

so we have tecnology not superheated by an excess of armed conflict but not super frozen by fanatacism either.

to me that means steam and possibly electricity (citrus batteries) by the 11th century. the steam era lasting as did our middle ages, right up to the 16th or even 17th century.

well by the time 'the renasaunce' comes along, there isn't any more economicly extractable resources of oil or coal remaining but tecnological innovation continues to roll marrily along wind, solar and hydro powered.

who'se to say by now we might not have gravity modulation and warp drives?

i think conflict is over rated in assuming it to be the only possible stimulus to tecnological evolution.

we are human precisely because of the drive to express ourselves creatively.
that is the only thing our pre-human ancestors couldn't have done without developing the big brains we have now.

sure it was favored by survival, but once we bagan forming communities larger then kinship groups darwinian survival ceased to be the premary influence on our subsiquent development.

perhapse this world would be too alien for most of us living in the world we are to even relate to or recognize.

perhapse also we would be out among the stars and participating in a kind of galactic u.n. that we didn't invent but are the new kids on the block to.

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