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Does it bother you if a politician have bad habits? I mean do you care if he or she is moral etc.? I'm asking because I have been doing some research and found out that not only politicians but many judges, high ranking police officers and even generals are set up while they are interested in delicate matters. In some events the prostitutes or mistresses remain and become mediatic but mostly dissapear, vanish etc. after their mission is done. So it is clearly a tool to clear offices used by deep goverment agencies or interest groups.

Politicians and Prostitutes.

You are repeating yourself. :)

Does it bother you if a politician have bad habits? I mean do you care if he or she is moral etc.? I'm asking because I have been doing some research and found out that not only politicians but many judges, high ranking police officers and even generals are set up while they are interested in delicate matters. In some events the prostitutes or mistresses remain and become mediatic but mostly dissapear, vanish etc. after their mission is done. So it is clearly a tool to clear offices used by deep goverment agencies or interest groups.

As long as the Politicans still do their jobs, I don't care who they bang.

That's a bit like asking if I mind that politicians lie.... they're politicians, remember? If you want honest people, don't look in politics.
And no, generally they can hump whoever they like, none of my business.

It bothers me. If they're willing to break one law just for the sake of getting laid then what's to stop them from hiring death squads and fixing elections and torturing the opposition?

Trilby63;11749748']It bothers me. If they're willing to break one law just for the sake of getting laid then what's to stop them from hiring death squads and fixing elections and torturing the opposition?

Huh? What law?

Huh? What law?

Isn't it ilegal to sleep with prostitutes where you live?

Trilby63;11749752']Isn't it legal to sleep with prostitutes where you live?

It's perfectly legal... what law would the politicians be breaking?

It's perfectly legal... what law would the politicians be breaking?

Okay.. so It's only illegal to persistantly solicit and kerb crawl but my point remains! Those politicians are evil!

Trilby63;11749752']Isn't it ilegal to sleep with prostitutes where you live?

Not where he lives.

Not even where anyone in the U.S. lives. It's illegal to solict a prostitute, but not technically illegal to sleep with them.

Trilby63;11749763']Okay.. so It's only illegal to persistantly solicit and kerb crawl but my point remains! Those politicians are evil!

All politicians are.

All politicians are.

Indeed. My point precisely.

Anyway, regardless of legality, it's immoral to pay for sex. It's even worse if you're a politician. Most prostitutes become so because they're vunerable or poor and it's just not right to exploit them. Sure politicians could probably afford a higher class of hooker but the principle remains.

To be politicians in that crazy nazi country, they should first be tortured...

And after left into prostitution for 5 years.

You'll have the politicians you deserve.

Where's my gun?

Trilby63;11749780']Indeed. My point precisely.

Anyway, regardless of legality, it's immoral to pay for sex. It's even worse if you're a politician. Most prostitutes become so because they're vunerable or poor and it's just not right to exploit them. Sure politicians could probably afford a higher class of hooker but the principle remains.

Prove it.

Prove it.

Aw damn you caught me out..

Erm.. Have you ever watched Law and Order Special Victims Unit?

It has Ice-T in it..

Trilby63;11749788']Aw damn you caught me out..

Erm.. Have you ever watched Law and Order Special Victims Unit?

It has Ice-T in it..

I prefer lemonade.

:)

Trilby63;11749788']Aw damn you caught me out..

Erm.. Have you ever watched Law and Order Special Victims Unit?

It has Ice-T in it..

That's your attempt at proof? Goddamn that's pitiful.

That's your attempt at proof? Goddamn that's pitiful.

I'm sorry. I concede. I'll no longer generalise about the circumstances of prostitutes. I mean sure they're are some who are genuinely happy with there lives and some that are quite oppressed. Responsible politicians would only pay for sex with the former as they aren't just concerned with their own needs.

Trilby63;11749824']I'm sorry. I concede. I'll no longer generalise about the circumstances of prostitutes. I mean sure they're are some who are genuinely happy with there lives and some that are quite oppressed. Responsible politicians would only pay for sex with the former as they aren't just concerned with their own needs.

Considering the amount of money a politician would be speniding on a prostitute, and considering that high-class prostitutes make a decent living, I doubt that many politicians would frequent the oppressed, drug-addict, pimp-owned ones. Unless they're into something really perverted...

Considering the amount of money a politician would be speniding on a prostitute, and considering that high-class prostitutes make a decent living, I doubt that many politicians would frequent the oppressed, drug-addict, pimp-owned ones. Unless they're into something really perverted...

Yeah. I though it was stupid too.


Although.. being politicians they must be into some kind of domination sex games involving paddles and electrodes...

.. I'd imagine..

Most emloyees are exploited in the jobs, and prostitutes more than most.

Trilby63;11749875']Yeah. I though it was stupid too.


Although.. being politicians they must be into some kind of domination sex games involving paddles and electrodes...

.. I'd imagine..

Possibly. But even that is catered for by high-class prositutes these days :D
And high-class prostitutes would have the additional bonus of being discreet... they'd have to be to keep their clientele. Whereas there are no guarantees that a cheap one picked up on the street won't sell the story to the media to make a few bucks. If I was a politician, I'd consider that a very good reason indeed not to touch one of the cheaper ones...

I don't give a damn.

Prostition is one of oldest jobs on earth, Sumerian female priests were also whores that sated a social need.
Even one of the greatest muslim leaders and friend of Prophet, Caliph Ömer didn't banned prostition saying that its a public security valve keeping immoral people at check, giving them an option rather than attack society.
In some countries prostitutes have licenses and pay taxes like Germany( I'm sure I remember reading news that they proposed it but can't remember if it was accepted) I mean its one of the most requested things, food then sex! Pay for it and get it quite easy eh?
Although I find it personally unacceptable to pay for sex and have sex with a whore that has been with countless other man, I accept the reality and need for them in society.

Not where he lives.

Not even where anyone in the U.S. lives. It's illegal to solict a prostitute, but not technically illegal to sleep with them.

In fact, it's not even illegal to solicit prostitutes for sex, as long as no monetary exchange is involved. Prostitutes are perfectly within their rights to give sex away for free if they like, and their customers are perfectly within their rights to ask for free sex, even if they don't get it. No crime is committed until money exchanges hands.

EDIT: In the US, I mean.

No, loose morals in politicians do not bother me any more than they bother me in anybody else, just as long as the politicians are cool enough about it that they won't be vulnerable to blackmail.

Hell, even a small amount of corruption in the form of bribe-taking and nepotism doesn't bother me all that much, just as long as they can still do the job the people want them to do.

I'm from New York City, which has one of the most corrupt municipal governments in the world. But the city still manages to carry on. As a historical example, the New York Tammany Hall political machine -- which was just the Democratic Party organization in the 19th century, not even elected officials themselves -- ran that city like the oligarchs of Venice, only more crooked. They siphoned millions of dollars out of City projects and into their own pockets, and barely even bothered to hide it. Criminals through and through. Yet they built the Brooklyn Bridge. They built schools and hospitals and developed clean, livable neighborhoods, many of which are still in use today.

So, I figure, a crook who steals from us and whores about but also delivers what the people need is okay with me. A crook who steals from us and whores about and delivers nothing at the end of the day is not okay.

Prove it.

Proving morality is difficult but if it is vulnerability then it is common knowledge that most prostitutes were sexually abused as children (never minding the prostitutes that ARE children) or come from a home where "regular" physical domestic violence is present in the home.

http://www.icasa.org/uploads/prostitution.pdf

There are other studies you can look up if you do not care for this one. Prostitutes are vulnerable as they run away from their abuser and end up selling themselves on the street.