NationStates Jolt Archive


Watch what you write

Drunk commies deleted
28-09-2006, 15:50
So this crazy broad who writes stories about torturing, raping and killing children is being prosecuted for obscenity charges. That's fucked up. She wrote stories, she didn't abuse anyone. The stories couldn't even be accessed if you didn't become a member of her fucked up site.

What happened to free speech? Why should a court get to decide if literature has any artistic merit or if it's just obscene? This scumbag author shouldn't be persecuted for writing. Those who brought the charges against her should be prosecuted for violating her constitutional rights.


http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/politics/15621840.htm
Congo--Kinshasa
28-09-2006, 15:51
Loathsome as her writings sound, she has every right to write them.

Free speech is increasingly becoming just a memory. :(
Khadgar
28-09-2006, 15:54
Obviously she's an Islamo-fascist-nazi-communist-terrorist!
Teh_pantless_hero
28-09-2006, 15:58
Hasn't the Supreme Court ruled a half dozen times that you can't charge people for shit like this?
I think Buchanan needs to be stripped of his license to practice law, he already had one case thrown out on simulation of murder and rape and he is pullnig the shit again with written fiction? Two strikes and you are out, morality-nazi.
Khadgar
28-09-2006, 16:02
I think the first ammendment is fairly clear on the matter. Obscenity laws are by definition unconstitutional.
Dempublicents1
28-09-2006, 16:14
Hasn't the Supreme Court ruled a half dozen times that you can't charge people for shit like this?

Pretty much. As long as some effort is made to keep such things from children, there's no room for lawsuit.

I think Buchanan needs to be stripped of his license to practice law, he already had one case thrown out on simulation of murder and rape and he is pullnig the shit again with written fiction? Two strikes and you are out, morality-nazi.

hehe
Cluichstan
28-09-2006, 16:17
Hasn't the Supreme Court ruled a half dozen times that you can't charge people for shit like this?
I think Buchanan needs to be stripped of his license to practice law, he already had one case thrown out on simulation of murder and rape and he is pullnig the shit again with written fiction? Two strikes and you are out, morality-nazi.

Actually, no, it hasn't. Not that it shouldn't, but...
The Lone Alliance
28-09-2006, 16:22
The feds would be better off keeping the site up and tracking visitors. If they get confirmed Child Molesters being some of the members, that would be a good reason to suspect that they're not thinking on trying again. Bam... Perv back in Jail. Of course tracking Websites is wrong... But like the government cares these days anyway.

How about they proscute the people in power for raping the nation.
Similization
28-09-2006, 16:24
And here I thought it was about the 56 Kurdish city reps in Turkey who got a combined 840 year prison sentence for writing a 405 words in a letter to the Danish PM, requesting that Roj-TV (the primary Kurdish TV station, which for obvious reasons isn't located in Turkey) stayed on the air.
Demented Hamsters
28-09-2006, 16:26
And here I thought it was about the 56 Kurdish city reps in Turkey who got a combined 840 year prison sentence for writing a 405 words in a letter to the Danish PM, requesting that Roj-TV (the primary Kurdish TV station, which for obvious reasons isn't located in Turkey) stayed on the air.
wow. That's like 2 years for every word. Good thing they didn't write more.
Good on Turkey for oppressing them bloody Kurds like that. They're gonna be a worthy addition to the EU.
Mt-Tau
28-09-2006, 16:28
This highlights a scary part of the US system of law. One can be busted for things that are not illegal, one official can have a issue with it and then you are in the system. Once in, it takes alot of time and money to prove yourself innocent. I would like to see some of the judges and officers loose thier jobs for being the enforcing thier beliefs, not the laws in the books.
Ifreann
28-09-2006, 16:29
Give it a week and stories about overturning an unjust government will be obscene, a month and any criticism of the goverment will be obscene. As will any references to Thought Police or anything else coined by Orwell.
Farnhamia
28-09-2006, 16:32
Actually, no, it hasn't. Not that it shouldn't, but...

And the case against the company that created simulated rape tapes has been successfully appealed, though no trial date has been set.
Psychotic Mongooses
28-09-2006, 16:34
Give it a week and stories about overturning an unjust government will be obscene, a month and any criticism of the goverment will be obscene. As will any references to Thought Police or anything else coined by Orwell.

*douses cotton wool in Choloroform*

*Smothers Ifreann, drags limp body away*

*Fixes tie*..... <.< >.> "What..? You gotta problem? "
Similization
28-09-2006, 16:55
wow. That's like 2 years for every word. Good thing they didn't write more.
Good on Turkey for oppressing them bloody Kurds like that. They're gonna be a worthy addition to the EU.Osman Baydemir, one of the accused & the highest placed Kurdish politician in Turkey, said the same. The supposed reason is that Roj-TV is allegedly owned by a PKK member, which is considered a terrorist organisation in Turkey.
The court has so far accepted that allegation, though it is nothing more than an allegation.

The Kurdish reps claim ignorance, and might well have been ignorant of it. Half of them don't even speak Turkish, just like the vast majority of the Kurdish minority. Roj-TV is the closest thing there is to a public service station for the 20 million large minority, and it is pretty much the only news source for the vast majority of them. No alternative TV media exists, and virtually no alternative media in any form exists.

Whether or not PKK has anything to do with Roj-TV is not apparent in the broadcasts, and the petition to the Danish head of state had nothing to do with PKK, nor was it addressed to any PKK member (obviously).

The "case" against the Kurdish reps is complete fiction. Right up there with how the Turkish military had to erase 3500 Kurdish villages from the face of the Earth, to preserve the public peace a few years ago (which they of course got both the money & weapons for by the EU & US. We aren't hypocritical murderers for nothing).

Still, it's thought provoking that a similar fictional court case is going on in the US, even if it is to oppress ideas instead of people.
Zilam
28-09-2006, 17:12
Give it a week and stories about overturning an unjust government will be obscene, a month and any criticism of the goverment will be obscene. As will any references to Thought Police or anything else coined by Orwell.

Crap..Better take all my thoughts off the interwebs then :(