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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060927/ap_on_he_me/diet_trans_fat_ban

So, any thoughts?

I agree that it is better, healthier, for people not to eat trans fats, but I believe that it should be the store's choice to cook with them, and the consumer's choice to eat what he or she wants. Initially, I am against this proposed law.

On the other hand, it would be fun to mess with the fast food chains.

If trans fat is the health scourge it certainly appears to be - basically poison - then it shouldn't be sold as food.

I for one don't consider it fit for human consumption and take many lengths to avoid it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060927/ap_on_he_me/diet_trans_fat_ban

So, any thoughts?

I agree that it is better, healthier, for people not to eat trans fats, but I believe that it should be the store's choice to cook with them, and the consumer's choice to eat what he or she wants. Initially, I am against this proposed law.

On the other hand, it would be fun to mess with the fast food chains.

Well, it is logical. First we had the cigarette police, now we have the food police. Well, I don't smoke anymore but damn it if you want to that is your decision. If I want to eat greaseburgers and greasefries, then I damn sure will. (However, I prefer a good sausage or some currie.)

If trans fat is the health scourge it certainly appears to be - basically poison - then it shouldn't be sold as food.

I for one don't consider it fit for human consumption and take many lengths to avoid it.

So, what kind of cooking oil do you use? We use mostly olive or canola oil. Do you eat butter? We do as it is much healthier than margerine. (and all natural too)

The ingestion of trans fats does not harm others. Meaning if I eat a trans fat, Joe will not get fat if he sits next to me.

Same cannot be said for tobacco.

trans fats ok, tobacco not.

The ingestion of trans fats does not harm others. Meaning if I eat a trans fat, Joe will not get fat if he sits next to me.

Same cannot be said for tobacco.

trans fats ok, tobacco not.

Sounds simple doesn't it? Guess not everyone sees that.

May I note that trans fats are, I believe, banned in Europe and that my parents swear McDonald's tastes better there?

It wouldn't kill their business a bit.

So, what kind of cooking oil do you use? We use mostly olive or canola oil. Do you eat butter? We do as it is much healthier than margerine. (and all natural too)

Olive, canola, grapeseed oil.

Butter absolutely, Plugra unsalted from trader joe's.

The ingestion of trans fats does not harm others. Meaning if I eat a trans fat, Joe will not get fat if he sits next to me.

Same cannot be said for tobacco.

trans fats ok, tobacco not.

So you're saying if I smoke a cigarette, Joe sitting next to me is going to get fat?

So you're saying if I smoke a cigarette, Joe sitting next to me is going to get fat?

I hope you aren't trying to be an ass. Second hand smoke exists after all. There is no second hand fat.

I hope you aren't trying to be an ass. Second hand smoke exists after all. There is no second hand fat.

Yes indeed second hand smoke exists, that's why if Joe sits next to me while I smoke cigarettes for twenty years he will have an increased risk of getting a harmful disease. ;)

Yes indeed second hand smoke exists, that's why if Joe sits next to me while I smoke cigarettes for twenty years he will have an increased risk of getting a harmful disease. ;)

If Joe has a pre-existing condition like asthma, bronchitis, or any other lung disease, then it won't take twenty years for him to feel the effects.

Yes indeed second hand smoke exists, that's why if Joe sits next to me while I smoke cigarettes for twenty years he will have an increased risk of getting a harmful disease. ;)

Or if Fred, the short order cook has to deal with smoking asshole customers for twenty years because his employers won't ban smoking in their establishment, he might have a higher risk of a disease too. A nice one that will make his insurance company drop him.

Or if Fred, the short order cook has to deal with smoking asshole customers for twenty years because his employers won't ban smoking in their establishment, he might have a higher risk of a disease too. A nice one that will make his insurance company drop him.

Yeah. I guess it's a pity that Fred chose to be a short order cook for twenty years in a free society.

But alas, it's also a pity that Fred will be at risk for those same diseases just if he breathes in the pollutants that driving assholes put out just because they can't be bothered to take public transportation seriously. World isn't perfect, can't please everyone.

Ban French Fries? I believe they are now called "Freedom Fries", in honour of the liberation of the Iraqi people.

So, any thoughts?



I would like to see them taxed, in order to fund the costs that our health care system is going to incur due to the associated health problems.

Im All for Personal Responsibility. I believe a democracy is the best government...If you want to ban everything that is harmful to the consumer. than you might as well run a socialist government and control every other aspect of thier lives in order for your people to be sheltered from everything unhealthy and bad in this world.

you can counter argue my point and ask why then I agree with Drugs being illegal....that is because, Individuals that take drugs...not only impact themselves but Quite Frequently Many others too...Freedom Fries....Might Give us a few Nightmares if we see someone way too fat wearing something way too small, but otherwise...there is no third party effected by the consumption of Freedom Fries

So the only two parties involved are the Consumers and the Sellers...and both parties benifit fromt the transation: Ronald McDonald Makes Money, and Fat Albert doesn't care that he is fat, so He is happy with his fries...The Economy Does better off...and both Parties are happy...

It is the Consumers choice to consume freedom fries. Clearly, they either have no self Discipline, They Dont care about their weight, Fatty Foods do Not effect the individual or, they exercise frequently....I could care less which....because the individual has the right to do all of the above...As Long as the Individual has a choice to live their lives the way they want without impacting any other party negatively...than they should have the right to do so.

my parents swear McDonald's tastes better there?

I'll agree that it does. The ingredients they use are also fresher over there, and they actually serve coffee that's almost fit for consumption. It's still not what I'd call "good" but it's better than over here.