NationStates Jolt Archive

The title says it all.
I'm just curious.
Ideally, this thread would end up debating what it is.
Oh, by the way, if this ends up in a debate about this (and doesn't go on to something else), I'm just going to make a debate without announcing what it's about. Just thought I'd give you fair warning, and not have the mods lock it like last time.

I say the chicken came before the egg.

What debate do you want? Abortion? Muslims? Bush? Iraq and terrorism?

The default debate is "us versus them."

Contestants organize themselves into two groups, no matter what the issue is.

For the wannabe-pundits and partisan hacks, it's always the same groups - "liberals vs conservatives" or "democrats vs republicans", take your pick.

For others, they are willing to be more ecumenical. Anti vs Pro. Good vs Evil.

Then the 'debate' proceeds by spreading propaganda about how bad the other side is, compared to how good their side is. Hilarity ensues.

What about religion or homosexuality? Abortion is definitely an option. Perhaps atheist homosexuals who have abortions?

What debate do you want? Abortion? Muslims? Bush? Iraq and terrorism?

Abortions performed by Bush-hating Iraqi terrorists?

Abortions performed by Bush-hating Iraqi terrorists?

Such abortions are on the rise. We need to crack down on them.

Spam. All threads end up in spam in the end. *nods sagely*

Yes. Even Choose Wisely was sent away. Even my "What not to do" thread was sent away.

Good vrs Evil
Evil vrs Eviler
Evil vrs Evil
Good vrs Gooder
WTF vrs WTH
WTH vrs WhyTH
Pro vrs SemiPro

The capitalism v. socialism argument is very classic, as is theism v. atheism.

anarchists and commies take all comers

Ny Nordland VS EVERYONE

Theres the "does god exists" debate and also the "Deep Kimchi really, really hates muslims" debate. both classic, really

"Should we have crawled out of the oceans" vs "We were created!"

Whatever the origin, someone should be peeved at our lack of progress.

"Should we have crawled out of the oceans" vs "We were created!"

Whatever the origin, someone should be peeved at our lack of progress.

Yeah. I mean, five BILLION years just to create the Internet? What a freaking LETDOWN! I'm sure all those who bet on us conquering the galaxy by 3 Billion were really disappointed.

I think the default debate involves some social freedom issue or other in which the two sides are broadly split as follows: "people willing to construct logical arguments to support their case" vs. "slightly bonkers conservative religious types who state, apparently without irony, that a book in which every statement is contradicted a few pages later can be used to definitively prove right and wrong":p

Colour versus Color quite often rears its head.

Me vs Everyone Else

International organisations come up now and again:
EG - EU UN ect

Pro and anti everything usually though, be it US, abortion, Same sex partnerships

Usually resulting in everyone annoyed because they know their right and the other side is wrong

Some people debate whether "socialist libertarian" is a political ideology.

IT IS.

Stuff vs Other Stuff is popular

Stuff rocks btw.

Paper or plastic?

Paper or plastic?

Scissors or stone?

Trilby63;11742790']Scissors or stone?

What about paper?

What about paper?

What about it? I don't care what the rules say. Paper can not beat stone. The very idea is preposterous!

Sex&food

Trilby63;11742810']What about it? I don't care what the rules say. Paper can not beat stone. The very idea is preposterous!

It's magic paper.

Ny Nordland VS EVERYONE
I'm usually not against him. XD

Anyway, Us vs Them sums it up quite well for the typical NS debate.

It's magic paper.

What? Soaked in LSD?

Trilby63;11742867']What? Soaked in LSD?

What would LSD do to a rock?

The Pros and Cons of an army of international Phantom Flan Flingers. :)

What would LSD do to a rock?

It might make it believe it could fly.

It might make it think it was covered in bees causing it to try and escape through a 3rd story window.

It might make it believe it was a lemming causing the rock to go seek out a cliff.

It might make it believe that it was talking to God and that it had to wage holy war against the Jews leading it to blow itself up at an Israeli checkpoint in Palestine.

What do you think it would do?

Trilby63;11742898']It might make it believe it could fly.

It might make it think it was covered in bees causing it to try and escape through a 3rd story window.

It might make it believe it was a lemming causing the rock to go seek out a cliff.

It might make it believe that it was talking to God and that it had to wage holy war against the Jews leading it to blow itself up at an Israeli checkpoint in Palestine.

What do you think it would do?

Make the rock stare at a lava lamp for the next 8 hours and not care about the paper.

Abortions performed by Bush-hating Iraqi terrorists?

Performed by Bush-hating gay Iraqi terrorists.

Trilby63;11742898']It might make it believe it could fly.

It might make it think it was covered in bees causing it to try and escape through a 3rd story window.

It might make it believe it was a lemming causing the rock to go seek out a cliff.

It might make it believe that it was talking to God and that it had to wage holy war against the Jews leading it to blow itself up at an Israeli checkpoint in Palestine.

What do you think it would do?

It's a rock, it's not going to do anything.

Make the rock stare at a lava lamp for the next 8 hours and not care about the paper.

Indeed. Lava Lamps are cool, aren't they?

It's a rock, it's not going to do anything.

You know The Silicon Anti-Defamation League would disagree with you there.

The typical NS debate is Creationists and Darwinists harping at each other, wasting time they could have spent arguing more productively over something else, trying futilely and foolishly to convince each other they're right.

A while ago it was decided that the most controversial debates involved:

George Bush
Iraq
Peak Oil
The existence of Jesus
Creationism vs. Evolution (by debate read: 'creationists annihilated by page five, followed by 495 pages of denial')
Islam
Homosexual marriage
Abortion
Single Mothers/Welfare

Therefore, the most controversial thread of all time would be:

"If George Bush was a Muslim, should he allow divorced lesbian single-mothers, working as evolutionary biologists in Iraq, to terminate pregnancies in the event of an oil crash provided that they believe that Jesus never existed?"

If this thread was created then the entire fabric of reality would be ripped apart (or the thread might be moved to Spam, who knows?)

Spam. All threads end up in spam in the end. *nods sagely*
That was what I was going to post.:cool:
Yes. Even Choose Wisely was sent away. Even my "What not to do" thread was sent away.
But they're both still thriving.
Yeah. I mean, five BILLION years just to create the Internet? What a freaking LETDOWN! I'm sure all those who bet on us conquering the galaxy by 3 Billion were really disappointed.
I lost a lot of miney on that bet....:(
Trilby63;11742810']What about it? I don't care what the rules say. Paper can not beat stone. The very idea is preposterous!
I concur.
It's magic paper.
Damn!:mad:
Trilby63;11742867']What? Soaked in LSD?

This new magic intrigues me. Go on....

Left vs Right

I'd say the existence of God's pretty default. You can work it into any other debate about ethics.

Statists v Indvidualist

War hawks v peace

socialism v capitalism

The second two, to some extent, go back to the first

Role of government, moraltiy.


Performed by Bush-hating gay Iraqi terrorists.

"Look! It's a newly married interracial gay couple burning the American flag!"

Left vs Right

Could it not be said, then, that it is simply the bickering of extreme opposites?