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What is "Casual" dress.

Naliitr
28-09-2006, 00:09
Let me give you some background before I begin.

I have recently joined the Junior Statesmen of America. In fact, it was just yesterday. I have volunteered to be the required fifth person to go to the start-up meeting on Saturday (Everyone else is too lazy). I checked it out on the JSA website, and it said "Casual" dress. Now then. According to my self-reasoning, "Casual" dress would mean what you wear everyday, to school or out on the town, or around your house. (That last one might not apply so well ;) ) To me, that would mean a gray shirt, black jeans, and my omnipresent dark navy blue trenchcoat. According to my mom, that is not casual dress. That is "School Clothes". According to her, casual dress is what you wear to meetings/conventions/parties/etc. in order to fit in with the rest of the people at the meeting/convention/party/etc., which essentially means not what you wear everyday. After that, I got into how that would just make me fake when going to the JSA convetions, but that's for another thread.

So now the question is passed onto you. What is casual dress? What you wear everyday? Or what you wear to parties/etc. in order to fit in with the rest of the people there, even if it isn't what you wear everyday?
M3rcenaries
28-09-2006, 00:15
I'd throw on a polo, to be on the safe side.
Chandelier
28-09-2006, 00:18
Let me give you some background before I begin.

I have recently joined the Junior Statesmen of America. In fact, it was just yesterday. I have volunteered to be the required fifth person to go to the start-up meeting on Saturday (Everyone else is too lazy). I checked it out on the JSA website, and it said "Casual" dress. Now then. According to my self-reasoning, "Casual" dress would mean what you wear everyday, to school or out on the town, or around your house. (That last one might not apply so well ;) ) To me, that would mean a gray shirt, black jeans, and my omnipresent dark navy blue trenchcoat. According to my mom, that is not casual dress. That is "School Clothes". According to her, casual dress is what you wear to meetings/conventions/parties/etc. in order to fit in with the rest of the people at the meeting/convention/party/etc., which essentially means not what you wear everyday. After that, I got into how that would just make me fake when going to the JSA convetions, but that's for another thread.

So now the question is passed onto you. What is casual dress? What you wear everyday? Or what you wear to parties/etc. in order to fit in with the rest of the people there, even if it isn't what you wear everyday?

Jeans might be a bit too casual, but I'm not sure about that. The gray shirt would probably be fine, but the trenchcoat might not be. I would probably consider "casual" at a meeting to be different than "casual" as in everyday clothing.
Lunatic Goofballs
28-09-2006, 00:19
Stark raving naked. You don't get more casual than that, and makes for interesting meetings/conventions/parties. :)
Rasselas
28-09-2006, 00:53
Slightly smarter than your average clothes. Maybe jeans, but smart clean ones, not everyday ones.
Theoretical Physicists
28-09-2006, 01:09
Casual is everyday clothes. Business casual is a dress shirt & pants nicer than jeans.
Anglachel and Anguirel
28-09-2006, 01:15
Let me give you some background before I begin.

I have recently joined the Junior Statesmen of America. In fact, it was just yesterday. I have volunteered to be the required fifth person to go to the start-up meeting on Saturday (Everyone else is too lazy). I checked it out on the JSA website, and it said "Casual" dress. Now then. According to my self-reasoning, "Casual" dress would mean what you wear everyday, to school or out on the town, or around your house. (That last one might not apply so well ;) ) To me, that would mean a gray shirt, black jeans, and my omnipresent dark navy blue trenchcoat. According to my mom, that is not casual dress. That is "School Clothes". According to her, casual dress is what you wear to meetings/conventions/parties/etc. in order to fit in with the rest of the people at the meeting/convention/party/etc., which essentially means not what you wear everyday. After that, I got into how that would just make me fake when going to the JSA convetions, but that's for another thread.

So now the question is passed onto you. What is casual dress? What you wear everyday? Or what you wear to parties/etc. in order to fit in with the rest of the people there, even if it isn't what you wear everyday?
I wear shorts and t-shirt, no matter what. That is my casual. That is my formal. Fuck fashion!

EDIT: And I agree fully with Lunatic Goofballs, as usual.
Entropic Creation
28-09-2006, 01:16
Casual dress generally means that you could show up in just about anything.
Keep in mind that you will probably make a bad first impression if you show up in jeans and a trenchcoat. People naturally make snap evaluations of people, and what you look like is going to have a big impact on how you are perceived.

When going into an environment you are not familiar with, even though there is no dress code, go with a business casual look. This basically means a polo shirt and some kaki pants – you may think it too preppy but that is how the real world works. Once you’ve gotten a feel for the situation, you can then adjust your wardrobe accordingly for future meetings.
Amaralandia
28-09-2006, 01:19
Casual dress is what you dress everyday.
You shouldn't worry about that, really. I went to the prom in jeans and sweat-shirt.
Infinite Revolution
28-09-2006, 01:19
i'd rekon your normal clothes spiffed up a bit. maybe a collar would be needed. if it was 'smart casual' then i'd say you have to dress preppy but casual is entirely open to interpretation.
Katganistan
28-09-2006, 01:23
I'd go in khakis and a polo shirt.
Kryozerkia
28-09-2006, 01:25
I'd wear a clean shirt and a clean pair of pants. I'd keep it tasteful if I wasn't sure about what they meant by "casual". Tasteful here meaning: no rips, holes, offensive T-shirt slogans, and no "out of bed" look...
Minaris
28-09-2006, 01:29
I wear shorts and t-shirt, no matter what. That is my casual. That is my formal.


Me too.
Maraque
28-09-2006, 01:36
A nice pair of jeans, possibly a bit stylish, and a nice casual button up.
Kryozerkia
28-09-2006, 01:37
A nice pair of jeans, possibly a bit stylish, and a nice casual button up.
I think this would be fine. That sounds about right.
Lots of Stars
28-09-2006, 01:37
I got into the same argument when i was in high school. :) :confused: :headbang:

I thought casual should be an outerwear t-shirt, nice jeans, jacket style coat if it was cool out. (i liked the leather bomber jackets, but could only afford the eisenhower jackets ). While wearing that and wanting to go out one evening, my grandmother told me that i was "undressed!" :eek: :confused:

Apparently the term casual is based on the various states of dress and undress of the suit. Formal being everything from the hat (long since optional), necktie (they will tell you if black, or white tie is required, otherwise a bowtie, appropriate bolo or sting tie (if western), or handover tie), vest, formal jacket, slacks, and shoes, and that napkin thingy that hung out of the jacket pocket, and if cold or raining an appropriate overcoat--which was removed upon entering the establishment.

Casual was being allowed to remove the tie, jacket, vest, and unbutton the shirt one button, perhaps but on a simpler jacket such as a cardigan or sweater, and being allowed to put on more comfortable shoes (but not too comfortable--no pink fuzzy bunny slippers.).

Professionals and white collar wore formal wear as their attire (business suits.) and blue collar workers wore work clothes. Most people changed into someithing more comfortable when getting home, Everyone was supposed to change their clothes if going out for the evening, professionals dressing down to casual, and blue collar workers dressing up to casual. Streetclothes being what was worn around the house, and just going down the street to the neighbors, or the gorcery store.

Mr. Rogers is a good example of someone changing into casual dress as he is singing "Wont you be my neighbor."

Undressed doesnt necesarily mean no clothes on, it means not having the right clothes on to render oneself into appropriate attire--casual, semi-casual, semi-formal, or formal. T-shirt, jeans, and athletic shows are considered "undress", street clothes, and most american schools have laxed their dress codes to the point that kids wear their street clothes, or school clothes; and not considered casual enough.

At least that is what my grandmother and i argued over. :)
Radical Centrists
28-09-2006, 02:27
Long story short, put on some nice jeans, khakis or nice slacks and a button down shirt. You can even let the shirt hang out if you want. It really doesn't take much to dress appropriately and if you want to split hairs about being "fake" then you probably shouldn't even be in JSA. There is nothing wrong with meeting a specific standard when you are a part of something like that. Dress however the hell you like on your own time.
Vault 10
28-09-2006, 02:27
I have recently joined the Junior Statesmen of America.
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What is casual dress?
If it's about a group of Politikjugend AHs, I'd assume they mean you may have no tie.


kidding.
Pie and Beer
28-09-2006, 02:30
casual dress for you
http://www.living-library.com/Snippets/Catalog%20Blue%20Casual%20Dress.jpg
Celtlund
28-09-2006, 02:33
What is casual dress? What you wear everyday? Or what you wear to parties/etc. in order to fit in with the rest of the people there, even if it isn't what you wear everyday?

Ask as it depends on the group. To one group casual dress may be a polo, golf, or sports shirts with a nice pair of slacks and shoes. To another group it could mean a tee type shirt, jeans, and athletic shoes. When in doubt it is always best to ask than to show up overdressed (=nerd) or underdressed (slob).
Arrkendommer
28-09-2006, 02:36
For me casual dress is wearing nice clothes to impress people who smell funny.
(but they have money)
Entropic Creation
28-09-2006, 03:22
It is generally better to be overdressed than underdressed.