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I don't care what anyone says, that was pretty cool. The band definitly played well together. I don't know why everyone bashes Green Day. They don't at all suck. For anyone who hates American Idiot, listen to the whole album before you judge it. Same goes for U2. They are both very good bands. Overall, a cool little performance.

they both suck IMHO.....especially U2 I can't find a single thing that’s good about them

I don't care what anyone says, that was pretty cool. The band definitly played well together. I don't know why everyone bashes Green Day. They don't at all suck. For anyone who hates American Idiot, listen to the whole album before you judge it. Same goes for U2. They are both very good bands. Overall, a cool little performance.

I think American Idiot is interesting because it is probably going to be the progenitor of a new genre of music: progressive punk rock. It was a very bold move for Green Day to write a concept album like they did with AI, and it is a clear evolution of punk rock into something much more progressive musically.

The problem with Green Day is that they are emo. Thier music may not be emo, but they are. If they weren't, they'd still probably be popular. They sold out, hoping to gain the emo audience. They did, but lost all of their previous fans. So yeah. Never heard U2 (:eek:), so I can't say anything about them.

The problem with Green Day is that they are emo. Thier music may not be emo, but they are. If they weren't, they'd still probably be popular. They sold out, hoping to gain the emo audience. They did, but lost all of their previous fans. So yeah. Never heard U2 (:eek:), so I can't say anything about them.

They're not emo. Just because Armstrong wears eyeliner dosen't mean he's emo. The band is still good. People didn't complain when David Bowie wore makeup. They didn't complain that Freddie Mercury was gay. Just becuase on guy wears eyeliner, the band sucks? That statement pisses me off so much. Hawthorne Heights is emo, and they suck. Not Green Day.

I think American Idiot is interesting because it is probably going to be the progenitor of a new genre of music: progressive punk rock. It was a very bold move for Green Day to write a concept album like they did with AI, and it is a clear evolution of punk rock into something much more progressive musically.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My god, someone who sees what I've been talking about!

greenday is more pop punk than punk rock... and they are trying to appeal to the emo audience... so i think greenday sucks... because they sold out, and i just dont like thier sound

greenday is more pop punk than punk rock... and they are trying to appeal to the emo audience... so i think greenday sucks... because they sold out, and i just dont like thier sound

:rolleyes:

green day suck because they are becoming u2. u2 suck because of what they became (wankrock).

Poor misguided fools... Seriously, am I the only one who likes Green Day? Anyone?

u2 suck because of what they became (wankrock).

Their first EP, however, always was, and likely will remain a fantastic jagged piece of off-the-beat scratchy new wave nonsense.

Not in any way to suggest that I forgive them their years of producing bland and pointless pablum in the long days following it though. Far from it.

Poor misguided fools... Seriously, am I the only one who likes Green Day? Anyone?

Smunkee is quite a fan, if I remember correctly, having seen them multiple times when they were still playing yard parties and underground dives. I just saw them the once back in '92, and they were entertaining enough, but still wearing the Op Ivy and The Who influences a bit too obviously on their sleeves.

I liked green day's older stuff but American Idiot was just a fashionable bashing of america and its gov't. It wasn't "revolutionary" or "progressive", loads of artists protest wars and the gov't, listen to CCR's Fortunate Son it has more than one dimension and much better lyrics

Green Day sucks because they tried to gain an emo audience, as posted before. Don't believe me? Four words Boulevard of Broken Dreams, as followed by six words Wake Me Up When September Ends, and lastly three more words Give Me Novacaine. That's right i heard the whole album, its full emo and anti-"establishment" bullshit, not to mention that help open the door for every MCR, Panic at the Disco!, Fallout Boy and The Used out there, so they helped popular Wuss-Rock. So no, fuck them

I don't care what anyone says, that was pretty cool. The band definitly played well together. I don't know why everyone bashes Green Day. They don't at all suck. For anyone who hates American Idiot, listen to the whole album before you judge it. Same goes for U2. They are both very good bands. Overall, a cool little performance.

i watched it,and i thought it was pretty good..

but then again,i have always liked greenday and u2...and i am so far from emo i am anti emo...if that is possible,as i am usually not anti anything except guncontrol or terrorism.(the real kind..you know..the choppin off heads kinda terroism)

Two songs on the album where political. American Idiot and Holiday. BoBD and WMuWSE were not emo, and Give me Novacne was awesome, a great chill song. And Homecoming was a kick-ass songs, so was Jesus of Suburbia. The only song I really didn't like was Extraordinary Girl. That's it.

Two songs on the album where political. American Idiot and Holiday. BoBD and WMuWSE were not emo, and Give me Novacne was awesome, a great chill song. And Homecoming was a kick-ass songs, so was Jesus of Suburbia. The only song I really didn't like was Extraordinary Girl. That's it.

The only songs worth mentioning on the album are American Idiot (a badly written peice of sloganeering nonsense) and Holiday (an unclear and underdeveloped concept shoved into 2 or 3 times too little time). The rest was whiny emo nonsense. Green Day, which once had punk roots, has managed to abandon them in the name of pouser "Counterculture" based off of major labels and pop nonsense.

The world doesn't need more of that.

if BoBD and WMuWSE arent emo, what would you call it?

if BoBD and WMuWSE arent emo, what would you call it?

Rock. I don't know if you notice this, but lot's of bands write songs like this. If you classify every song like that, then Pink Floyd's The Wall is emo. And if anyone says it is, I will personally execute you.

I don't care what anyone says, that was pretty cool. The band definitly played well together. I don't know why everyone bashes Green Day. They don't at all suck. For anyone who hates American Idiot, listen to the whole album before you judge it. Same goes for U2. They are both very good bands. Overall, a cool little performance.
Green Day really is okay, couple of my friends have seen some shows they performed in Germany (I didn't know or else I would've gone, too).

Can't say that for U2, though. I'm not a big fan. Some freak at my school was all over them and that pretty much did it for them. Never even considered giving them a second chance - I don't really appreciate any of their albums for every school party had them played again and again (and I'm into metal...)

I don't care what anyone says, that was pretty cool. The band definitly played well together. I don't know why everyone bashes Green Day. They don't at all suck. For anyone who hates American Idiot, listen to the whole album before you judge it. Same goes for U2. They are both very good bands. Overall, a cool little performance.
U2 definitly sucks. Green Day is alright but still overrated. If you won't to listen to some good punk rock, listen to sublime they are truly amazing.

*Cough cough cough*

Punk rock sucks. U2 Used to not suck, but they sort of devolved into a very shitty band over time.

Just my opinion; don't have to agree with it.

Hey sublime is the shit. Seriously don't knock a band tell you've listened to them. They've got this reggae ska vibe goin on.

*Cough cough cough*

Punk rock sucks. U2 Used to not suck, but they sort of devolved into a very shitty band over time.

Just my opinion; don't have to agree with it.

What the hell has Greed Day got to do with Punk Rock? All they are is a bunch of sell-out wannabes pretending they have anything like street credit left and selling to the Emo/Pop-Bullcrap crowd.

You want Punk Rock? Go listen to real stuff, like the Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat, Black Flag, the UK Subs, Chumbawamba, or Sham 69. Greed Day is just a bunch of sellout Pop Stars.

What the hell has Greed Day got to do with Punk Rock? All they are is a bunch of sell-out wannabes pretending they have anything like street credit left and selling to the Emo/Pop-Bullcrap crowd.

You want Punk Rock? Go listen to real stuff, like the Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat, Black Flag, the UK Subs, Chumbawamba, or Sham 69. Greed Day is just a bunch of sellout Pop Stars.

Say it again Brother!!!

What the hell has Greed Day got to do with Punk Rock? All they are is a bunch of sell-out wannabes pretending they have anything like street credit left and selling to the Emo/Pop-Bullcrap crowd.

You want Punk Rock? Go listen to real stuff, like the Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat, Black Flag, the UK Subs, Chumbawamba, or Sham 69. Greed Day is just a bunch of sellout Pop Stars.

I know, but the music industry still lables them as "Punk Rock." I have no idea why, but that's what has happened.

The only real punk rock bands I have any respect for are the Clash and the Dead Kennedys, personally.

Sublime was really great! Too bad that we never had a chance to see the band progress any further - heroine's a bitch... :(

Sublime was really great! Too bad that we never had a chance to see the band progress any further - heroine's a bitch... :(

I have only heard a few sublime songs, and I wasn't quite sure what to make of it. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't too great either.

I know, but the music industry still lables them as "Punk Rock." I have no idea why, but that's what has happened.

The only real punk rock bands I have any respect for are the Clash and the Dead Kennedys, personally.

It sells better to self important "rebels" who would rather kill their brains on EZ made music than make an effort to grow personally.

The only real punk rock bands I have any respect for are the Clash and the Dead Kennedys, personally.

Yeah, being a smackhead on a major label or sueing each other are definitely real punk rock.

The U2 Hatred in this thread sickens me. :upyours:

Yeah, being a smackhead on a major label or sueing each other are definitely real punk rock.

Can't deny that the first is accurate, but the second is twisting the meaning. The DK lawsuit was an attempt by Jello to prevent the music from being used commercially. IMO, that's pretty punk.

The DK lawsuit was an attempt by Jello to prevent the music from being used commercially. IMO, that's pretty punk.

Nope, I'm talking about the rest of the band taking Biafra and Alternative Tentacles to law for underpayment of royalties.

Nope, I'm talking about the rest of the band taking Biafra and Alternative Tentacles to law for underpayment of royalties.

Frankly, I trust the other members of the band about as far as I can throw them. They have shown themselves to be hypocrites and frauds time and time again, and their financial obsession is pathetic. These so-called "Anti-Corporate" types have played a Coca Cola Festival, put music out on major video games, and done so on movies.

Yes, there was an accounting mistake. No, Biafra was not trying to scam anyone. The whole issue was, frankly, bunk.

I don't care what anyone says, that was pretty cool. The band definitly played well together.

I'm glad they played well together, because they play terribly on their own.


I don't know why everyone bashes Green Day.


I, and the majority of my friends from when I was in high school (I'm 23, and graduated high school in the dark ages, AKA 2002) loved Green Day. Then all the people I know who used to like them stopped when they sold out to the emo kiddies with American Idiot. What I also find hilarious is that all the people who love them for American Idiot find their previous stuff distasteful if I play it and don't tell them who it is.

The only decent song from that was Jesus of Suburbia, and I could take or leave it. And when I delivered pizza during the height of the album's popularity, all the stations preset on the furnished car's piece of shit radio played that one song whose name I forget non stop. It's maddening when you switch between four stations - two rock and two top 40 - and get nothing but Billy Armstrong complaining that his vagina hurts on account of the fact he's walking alone. That whiney twit would be on all four stations simultanesously more often than not, and no less than twice an hour - that is, two times an hour on each station.

And you wonder why rational people have a fiery hatred that burns from the depths of their asshole towards these self-important, twishy emobois.

These so-called "Anti-Corporate" types have played a Coca Cola Festival, put music out on major video games, and done so on movies.

The second of which Biafra approved, and as far as movies go - they licensed their product for use in movies when they were still all one big happy family before they split.

Anyhow, I'm not here to argue whether the singer or the musicians were in the right in their own interpersonal conflicts: I'm just saying I find it hard to equate considering a band to be 'real punk rock' when that band is at war with itself in the courts.

I don't care what anyone says, that was pretty cool. The band definitly played well together. I don't know why everyone bashes Green Day. They don't at all suck. For anyone who hates American Idiot, listen to the whole album before you judge it. Same goes for U2. They are both very good bands. Overall, a cool little performance.
Yeah, I heard that performance. It absolutely kicked ass.

And honestly, I'm not a gigantic fan of Green Day, but they have definitely put out quite a bit of very good stuff, which I do like.

And as for U2, if you haven't heard The Joshua Tree, you can't judge them, and if you've heard The Joshua Tree, you can't judge them poorly.

And as for U2, if you haven't heard The Joshua Tree, you can't judge them, and if you've heard The Joshua Tree, you can't judge them poorly.

I have heard The Joshua Tree.

I judge them poorly.

It is vapid and insipid, overblown and pompous, self-important and vacuous.

I have heard The Joshua Tree.

I judge them poorly.

It is vapid and insipid, overblown and pompous, self-important and vacuous.
Bah, go burn in hell :D

Bah, go burn in hell :D

Hey, I'm not just being negative for the sake of being negative here, I heaped praise on their first 7" a few posts back. I call 'em as I see 'em.

Hey, I'm not just being negative for the sake of being negative here, I heaped praise on their first 7" a few posts back. I call 'em as I see 'em.
Dude, the Joshua Tree was just plain gnarly.

I am so tempted to use a gun smilie right now...
*whimpers, calls up Bill*
"Bill, I really really am needing a gun smilie. I don't know what to do!"
"Just calm down. Count to ten. Breathe deep."

I was not a Green Day fan at all ... until I saw them live. I've never seen a band get the audience involved in quite the way they did.

green day suck because they are becoming u2. u2 suck because of what they became (wankrock).If I could become U2.. that would make my day.. my green day ^^

Seriously, am I the only one who likes Green Day? Anyone?obviously you are not.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001050164

Green Day sucks because they tried to gain an emo audience.I dont think so.
Don't believe me? No.
Four words Boulevard of Broken Dreams, as followed by six words Wake Me Up When September Ends, and lastly three more words Give Me Novacaine. That's right i heard the whole album, its full emo and anti-"establishment" bullshit, not to mention that help open the door for every MCR, Panic at the Disco!, Fallout Boy and The Used out there, so they helped popular Wuss-Rock.like I said: "No."
So no, fuck themlike I said..

Poor misguided fools... Seriously, am I the only one who likes Green Day? Anyone?

Nope.

*raises hand*

I don't care what anyone says, that was pretty cool. The band definitly played well together. I don't know why everyone bashes Green Day. They don't at all suck. For anyone who hates American Idiot, listen to the whole album before you judge it. Same goes for U2. They are both very good bands. Overall, a cool little performance.

Slightly off-subject - or maybe on-subject, if you were intending to talk about the particular performance in question - I haven't seen it. So I can't judge. U2 and Green Day together on stage? When did it happen? Where? What? Huh?

Green Day: I've only really listened to their stuff since American Idiot came out, so my view of them is coloured by that more than anything else. That view generally being 'Hmm. This is fun. Sometimes, gloomy is good...' Also, nicely energetic at the same time. e.g. Holiday.

U2: Well... I have made a point of collecting all their albums on CD. So a fairly big fan. That said, I think they went far too pop, disco-remix etc in the 90s, I prefer their earlier 'classic' work e.g. Pride, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Where the Streets Have no Name, New Year's Day, etc. There have been a few good individual ones since then - Peace on Earth springs to mind, also Sometimes you Can't Make it On Your Own. But mostly too pop. [phew]