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Are you a good person?

Soviestan
24-09-2006, 20:07
I like to pretend I am but I'm really not. I lie, cheat, and use people. I also don't form emotional attachments with anyone outside of maybe one or two people. I also find I have a hard time valuing life which may come from the fact I don't really value my own. This is not to say I'm not nice or don't do the "socially right thing" because I am and I do for the most part. So, are you a good person?
Smunkeeville
24-09-2006, 20:08
I don't really believe anyone is. I tend to be selfish, and apathetic. I have poor communication skills and in general I am not really that great of a friend.
Keruvalia
24-09-2006, 20:09
So, are you a good person?

I believe I'm getting the hang of it. I am, however, a lousy horse.
IL Ruffino
24-09-2006, 20:16
Ahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhhhhhaaaah!!

.. yes.



















;)
Cabra West
24-09-2006, 20:17
I've been told I am... but I don't believe it, really. It might depend on what you define as a "good person".
Secret aj man
24-09-2006, 20:24
I believe I'm getting the hang of it. I am, however, a lousy horse.

lol...i too am a lousy horse,but my friends daughter insists on jumping on my back nonetheless.

i'd like to think i am a decent enough fellow.

but i suppose all humans,and animals are selfish to some extent.
and i guess i am no exception.

i truly love kids,the innocence of them knocks me over,to think i was once like that.

i do think i am a good friend..as i have alot of them,i am not apathetic to peoples needs and feelings,and when someone is in pain i really feel for them and try to help.

but i do think of my welfare overall...which i assume everyone does,or we as a species would not survive.

i can say i would never hurt or use someone for my benefit..no matter what,for my survival maybe.
Greater Trostia
24-09-2006, 20:28
I'm actually such a good person that in comparison with everyone else, I'm an angel.

An avenging angel. My goodness makes it morally correct to slay and smote people.
MrWho
24-09-2006, 20:32
My friends tell me that I'm a good person mainly because I help them out if I can and won't screw them over. But for people I don't know, if they need help I try to not care mainly because I don't feel like getting involved and I dont socialize that well unless of course they ask me, in which of course I would gladly help out.
Secret aj man
24-09-2006, 20:33
I'm actually such a good person that in comparison with everyone else, I'm an angel.

An avenging angel. My goodness makes it morally correct to slay and smote people.


isnt it smite?

spelling nazi walks away...knowing i mutilate the language daily.
Infinite Revolution
24-09-2006, 20:34
yeh, i'm totally a good person... apart from when i'm being self-absorbed, self-pitying, making jokes at the expense of others, drunk etc. and i almost never call my friends, generally waiting for them to call me, but that's less of being a bad person and more to do with my own personal issues. but i have my moments, as does everyone. i'd do pretty much anything for my friends or my sister and i generally spend far more on other people than i can afford.
Pledgeria
24-09-2006, 20:36
I'm as good a person as I know how to be. I don't lie, except through ignorance. I don't cheat -- my integrity is the only thing I have that is TRULY mine. I try to set a good example for those around me.
Greater Trostia
24-09-2006, 20:38
Imy integrity is the only thing I have that is TRULY mine.

Oh, come on. What about your personality? Or your chin.
Upper Botswavia
24-09-2006, 20:42
I am not a BAD person, so guess I must be a good one. Not perfect, but good. How good? I will leave others to decide that and continue to do the best I can.
Pledgeria
24-09-2006, 20:43
Oh, come on. What about your personality? Or your chin.

Nope, those belong to my wife. She keeps them in her purse with my testicles. :)
Andaluciae
24-09-2006, 21:04
I'm absolutely horrible.
Kryozerkia
24-09-2006, 21:06
I'm good at letting people think I am, but, those who know me, know I'm really a nasty little bitch, who doesn't give a flying fuck about what you think if you get in my way.
Iztatepopotla
24-09-2006, 21:08
Nope.
Bumboat
24-09-2006, 21:17
I am not a BAD person, so guess I must be a good one. Not perfect, but good. How good? I will leave others to decide that and continue to do the best I can.

*Applause* Well said!
I agree with her.
:fluffle: How have you been Upper?
Pablicosta
24-09-2006, 21:31
I'm perfect.

You'd expect some sort of 'Only kidding' kind of remark here wouldn't you... Wrong.
Kryozerkia
24-09-2006, 21:32
I'm perfect.

That's a load of bullshit and you damn well know it. :D
Seerstopia
24-09-2006, 21:53
if you don't know me, im the total incarnation of evil... or so people tell me

..... first post.... woooo....
Not bad
24-09-2006, 21:53
When it comes down to the brass tacks of actively doing good and actively doing harm Ive got my good points and Ive got my bad points and I am in no way objective enough to judge which way the scales might swing.

On the good side I am generous with my time and assets when I see a need. I am more empathetic than most and can usually make myself tell someone the truth when they need to hear it without making it painful or demeaning. I can keep my mouth shut when needed too. Im loyal and faithful to both my promises and my friends. If I fail at being loyal and faithful then I am honest about how and why I did not do what I said I would. No excuses just humility apology and if possible to repair harm. I dont need someone right near to me in time or space to remember them or care about them or act faithfully on their behalf.

On the bad side I have a strong sense of righteous revenge a very long memory and a willingness if not downright eagerness to adopt whatever rules of interaction that a given person uses to better themselves at my expense or to harm me. This makes my gray area in dealing with disputes far narrower than most people's. It also leads to much confusion and disappointment with me when a thief or what have you mistakes any generosity and kindness I show for wealness and vulnerability and stupidity. I am not weak or stupid and only vulnerable to loss of property and most emotional pain because I found that being invulnerable is worse than loss. To many these traits will make me seem quick to judge and quick to anger sure to over react and sometimes prone to hasty ill advised behavior. Besides the ill advised part the rest is untrue. This perception is not helped by my unwillingness to rationalise or explain situations to any party not involved until it is cold history.

Another bad thing I can do is to seem to drop off the edge of the world and disappear to someone I know without warning or explanation never to be heard from again unless they can find me. This is how I deal with someone when I decide that being around them is detrimental to my happiness or well being. Even close friends and family members. It is by no means fair or proper but it has the advantage of actually working when there is a real problem.

Ive adopted one rule for people who wish to interact with me which is so outside normal moralities that friends often cross the line because they do not at first believe I feel and am this way. My unfair rule is this: Unless it involves you do not interfere with my actions or my property without asking me first. ESPECIALLY if it is for my own good. If I am falling off a log dont try to grab me without asking me. If you wander into my house and see what appears to be trash on the floor dont throw it away. If you wander into my hous and see that Ive left $20000 in negotiable bonds on the coffee table and Im not around but three bag ladies and a wino are in the house dont move the bonds. The reason that I have this rule is that I am concerned with the outcome of peoples actions more than I am the intent. In too many cases things have gone horribly wrong due to the heroic actions of well meaning friends. I would much rather be fucked over and hospitalised by some bastard who hates me than by some well meaning friend grabbing me at the wrong instant as I fall off a log. If I have people who are out to harm me on purpose I can take some measures against this. I cant defend against well meaning friends helping me out behind my back when I least expect it. Ive had to have a broken arm and lose almost $5000 dollars to learn this. I couldnt be too upset when these things happened because the friends meant well. This seemed wrong to me that I should be thankfull for having friends trying to help and fucking me over hard. So now I either save myself or not as it goes. After I tell friends about this rule they usually still cross the line. If nothing bad happens I ask them not to. If something bad happens Im pretty obnoxious about it.
Pure Metal
24-09-2006, 21:57
I like to pretend I am but I'm really not. I lie, cheat, and use people. I also don't form emotional attachments with anyone outside of maybe one or two people. I also find I have a hard time valuing life which may come from the fact I don't really value my own. This is not to say I'm not nice or don't do the "socially right thing" because I am and I do for the most part. So, are you a good person?

i can empathise with what you say. not sure if it totally applies to me just because... i can't be sure. i'm told i'm a good person though :)
Not bad
24-09-2006, 21:59
if you don't know me, im the total incarnation of evil... or so people tell me

..... first post.... woooo....

Thank you for not using gun smilies on your first post. For evil incarnate you actually dont seem so bad.
Infinite Revolution
24-09-2006, 22:01
When it comes down to the brass tacks of actively doing good and actively doing harm Ive got my good points and Ive got my bad points and I am in no way objective enough to judge which way the scales might swing.

On the good side I am generous with my time and assets when I see a need. I am more empathetic than most and can usually make myself tell someone the truth when they need to hear it without making it painful or demeaning. I can keep my mouth shut when needed too. Im loyal and faithful to both my promises and my friends. If I fail at being loyal and faithful then I am honest about how and why I did not do what I said I would. No excuses just humility apology and if possible to repair harm. I dont need someone right near to me in time or space to remember them or care about them or act faithfully on their behalf.

On the bad side I have a strong sense of righteous revenge a very long memory and a willingness if not downright eagerness to adopt whatever rules of interaction that a given person uses to better themselves at my expense or to harm me. This makes my gray area in dealing with disputes far narrower than most people's. It also leads to much confusion and disappointment with me when a thief or what have you mistakes any generosity and kindness I show for wealness and vulnerability and stupidity. I am not weak or stupid and only vulnerable to loss of property and most emotional pain because I found that being invulnerable is worse than loss. To many these traits will make me seem quick to judge and quick to anger sure to over react and sometimes prone to hasty ill advised behavior. Besides the ill advised part the rest is untrue. This perception is not helped by my unwillingness to rationalise or explain situations to any party not involved until it is cold history.

Another bad thing I can do is to seem to drop off the edge of the world and disappear to someone I know without warning or explanation never to be heard from again unless they can find me. This is how I deal with someone when I decide that being around them is detrimental to my happiness or well being. Even close friends and family members. It is by no means fair or proper but it has the advantage of actually working when there is a real problem.

Ive adopted one rule for people who wish to interact with me which is so outside normal moralities that friends often cross the line because they do not at first believe I feel and am this way. My unfair rule is this: Unless it involves you do not interfere with my actions or my property without asking me first. ESPECIALLY if it is for my own good. If I am falling off a log dont try to grab me without asking me. If you wander into my house and see what appears to be trash on the floor dont throw it away. If you wander into my hous and see that Ive left $20000 in negotiable bonds on the coffee table and Im not around but three bag ladies and a wino are in the house dont move the bonds. The reason that I have this rule is that I am concerned with the outcome of peoples actions more than I am the intent. In too many cases things have gone horribly wrong due to the heroic actions of well meaning friends. I would much rather be fucked over and hospitalised by some bastard who hates me than by some well meaning friend grabbing me at the wrong instant as I fall off a log. If I have people who are out to harm me on purpose I can take some measures against this. I cant defend against well meaning friends helping me out behind my back when I least expect it. Ive had to have a broken arm and lose almost $5000 dollars to learn this. I couldnt be too upset when these things happened because the friends meant well. This seemed wrong to me that I should be thankfull for having friends trying to help and fucking me over hard. So now I either save myself or not as it goes. After I tell friends about this rule they usually still cross the line. If nothing bad happens I ask them not to. If something bad happens Im pretty obnoxious about it.

that's a very exhaustive breakdown of you're good and bad sides for someone who's nation name is 'not bad'!
Europa Maxima
24-09-2006, 22:02
I don't really believe anyone is. I tend to be selfish, and apathetic. I have poor communication skills and in general I am not really that great of a friend.
Ditto - except when I have friends, I just call them acquaintances usually. I'm not in the habit of pretending to be congenial or gregarious. Not that this makes me what some would call a "bad" person - the self-centredness, bitterness, cyclothymic tendencies and egotism do that. :)
Hiemria
24-09-2006, 22:02
I do my best.


It's strange that everyone seems to base their moral code off of emotions. I would be uncomfortable letting my emotions control everything so much.
Zilam
24-09-2006, 22:03
I am not a good person, it is He who is inside me that is good.
Infinite Revolution
24-09-2006, 22:05
I am not a good person, it is He who is inside me that is good.

you think you'd be a bad person if you didn't believe in god and christ and all that then? you don't have much faith in yourself it seems.
Hiemria
24-09-2006, 22:07
you think you'd be a bad person if you didn't believe in god and christ and all that then? you don't have much faith in yourself it seems.

Nothing wrong with a little humility.
Infinite Revolution
24-09-2006, 22:10
Nothing wrong with a little humility.

never said there was, but having a bit of humility does not stop you from having faith in your own individual goodness.
LiberationFrequency
24-09-2006, 22:12
I'm polite, nice and helpful to strangers and people I barely know but tp friends, family and coworkers I'm a right arsehole.
Not bad
24-09-2006, 22:14
that's a very exhaustive breakdown of you're good and bad sides for someone who's nation name is 'not bad'!

Full disclosure is Not bad.
Infinite Revolution
24-09-2006, 22:16
never said there was, but having a bit of humility does not stop you from having faith in your own individual goodness.

actually, i just realised, that's what makes me really sick of religion and christianity in particular. why can't people take some credit for their own compassion/generosity/loyalty etc. and some responsibility for the things they do wrong. i can't quite explain exactly why i don't like it but it really makes my skin crawl.
Infinite Revolution
24-09-2006, 22:17
Full disclosure is Not bad.

aha, good response :p
Seerstopia
24-09-2006, 22:25
Thank you for not using gun smilies on your first post. For evil incarnate you actually dont seem so bad.thats because you don't know me in RL. online im not that bad

and just for effect :mp5:
Seculia Prime
24-09-2006, 22:44
According to a recent article in the Independent (UK newspaper), I'm one of the 50 most "good" people in the country. Personally, I wouldn't rank myself as such, but I'm not one to disagree.
Infinite Revolution
24-09-2006, 22:47
According to a recent article in the Independent (UK newspaper), I'm one of the 50 most "good" people in the country. Personally, I wouldn't rank myself as such, but I'm not one to disagree.

what, are you famous or something?
Ashmoria
24-09-2006, 22:52
im a good enough person. but then, i have very low standards of good.
Seculia Prime
24-09-2006, 22:53
what, are you famous or something?

Sort of, I suppose. I'd prefer to be eminent then famous. I run a campaign in favour of animal based research for medical purposes (www.pro-test.org.uk)
Infinite Revolution
24-09-2006, 22:54
Sort of, I suppose. I'd prefer to be eminent then famous. I run a campaign in favour of animal based research for medical purposes (www.pro-test.org.uk)

is that what you got called good for?

p.s. i don't know enough about the issue to have a concrete position on it so i'm not about to judge, just genuinely curious, my interest being more in the opinions of the independant than anything else.
Seculia Prime
24-09-2006, 22:56
is that what you got called good for?

p.s. i don't know enough about the issue to have a concrete position on it.

Yes. Within the scientific community, it's generally regarded as being a rather positive campaign.
Infinite Revolution
24-09-2006, 22:58
Yes. Within the scientific community, it's generally regarded as being a rather positive campaign.

good stuff
Nadkor
24-09-2006, 23:09
I try to be, but only others could judge how successful I am.
Carnivorous Lickers
25-09-2006, 20:39
If we're on good terms, there are people that will agree I'm a good guy.

There are others that will tell you I'm a pretty bad guy.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
25-09-2006, 20:48
I'm a terrible person. But, I only ever wanted to be a pony anyway, so fuck you all.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
25-09-2006, 20:49
I'm a terrible person. But, I only ever wanted to be a pony anyway, so fuck you all.
A My Little Pony pony?
Romanar
25-09-2006, 20:51
I don't cheat people. I'll lie for convienience ("I can't go with you because something came up"), but not to hurt anyone. I'm selfish and apathetic. I'll help my friends if I think they really need it, but not if I think they're just using me.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
25-09-2006, 20:55
A My Little Pony pony?
No, the kind with wings and a horn, I guess.
All I can remember is that my earliest ambition in life was to morph into a four-legged and highly improbable herbivore, and that the dissapointment when this event failed to materialize has haunted me throughout my entire life.
Or, at least, that's what I keep telling the court-appointed psychiatrists.
Nihonou-san
25-09-2006, 20:58
My major flaw is if I'm bored and it's raining, I get depressed. When I get depressed, I become a fatalist for a little while. I'm also socially awkward and inept. So, I always need to have something to do.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
25-09-2006, 21:03
No, the kind with wings and a horn, I guess.
All I can remember is that my earliest ambition in life was to morph into a four-legged and highly improbable herbivore, and that the dissapointment when this event failed to materialize has haunted me throughout my entire life.
Or, at least, that's what I keep telling the court-appointed psychiatrists.
No rainbow coloured mane flowing in the wind, then. Oh well.


And to answer the OP: I feel pretty damn bad when I do things that aren't so glowing, so yeah, I'm basically a good person.
Womble land
25-09-2006, 21:15
errr, well probably not since id rather be with someone else than me,
Farnhamia
25-09-2006, 21:30
I like to pretend I am but I'm really not. I lie, cheat, and use people. I also don't form emotional attachments with anyone outside of maybe one or two people. I also find I have a hard time valuing life which may come from the fact I don't really value my own. This is not to say I'm not nice or don't do the "socially right thing" because I am and I do for the most part. So, are you a good person?

Yes, yes I am a good person.
Glitziness
25-09-2006, 21:32
I'm not perfect, and I have various flaws, but I do believe that I'm a good person. I care about others, will help others, am not selfish or boastful, take into consideration other people in nearly all I do, have a strong conscience, have made stupid mistakes but always felt incredibly guilty and learnt from them, put others before myself in most cases, don't really have any spiteful or mean thoughts (not seriously - i'll joke about stuff, but can't remember ever truly wanting anyone to go through bad things)....

I do have many flaws, and am far from perfect, but being a good person is something I try to be, and is one thing I do believe that I am to a large extent :)
Pure Metal
25-09-2006, 21:39
I'm not perfect, and I have various flaws, but I do believe that I'm a good person. I care about others, will help others, am not selfish or boastful, take into consideration other people in nearly all I do, have a strong conscience, have made stupid mistakes but always felt incredibly guilty and learnt from them, put others before myself in most cases, don't really have any spiteful or mean thoughts (not seriously - i'll joke about stuff, but can't remember ever truly wanting anyone to go through bad things)....

I do have many flaws, and am far from perfect, but being a good person is something I try to be, and is one thing I do believe that I am to a large extent :)

well i love you, and think you're a wonderful person... and that's quite something considering how judgemental and spiteful i can be :p
The blessed Chris
25-09-2006, 21:40
Nope. Self serving, duplicitious, self effacing, vain, pretentious machiavel, and thoroughly proud if it.
Glitziness
25-09-2006, 21:49
well i love you, and think you're a wonderful person... and that's quite something considering how judgemental and spiteful i can be :p
hehe, i've passed the test of the guy who says himself "i hate people!!!" .... quite an achievement :p
Pure Metal
25-09-2006, 22:24
hehe, i've passed the test of the guy who says himself "i hate people!!!" .... quite an achievement :p

lol :p that's just how amazing you are ;) :D

:fluffle:
Gravlen
25-09-2006, 23:50
Yes. I try my best. I really do. It's difficult some times...
Call to power
25-09-2006, 23:54
I turned down hot sex with my best friends Girlfriend even though no one would ever know

So I had better be a good guy!:mad:
Lunatic Goofballs
25-09-2006, 23:57
I try to be good, but then my brain kicks in. :)
Call to power
25-09-2006, 23:59
I try to be good, but then my brain kicks in. :)

your penis is good!?
Lunatic Goofballs
26-09-2006, 00:11
your penis is good!?

I haven't gotten any complaints yet. :cool:
Soviestan
26-09-2006, 00:13
I haven't gotten any complaints yet. :cool:

I've got one. Its too big, I have trouble handling it:p
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
26-09-2006, 00:17
I turned down hot sex with my best friends Girlfriend even though no one would ever know

So I had better be a good guy!:mad:
After leaving that poor girl shivering and alone in her bed for the whole night?
For sure, you are a terrible, spiteful and mean person, to abandon a her like that . . .
German Nightmare
26-09-2006, 00:23
I try to be every day, and I try not to be a bad person, too. I see my shortcomings and gradually improve on those.

All in all, I state a careful, modest, humble yes.
Lunatic Goofballs
26-09-2006, 00:28
I've got one. Its too big, I have trouble handling it:p

That's what the saddle is for. :)