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Fred Phelps, the lunatic psycho fundie we all know and love, is a common feature in NS General. He's unsupported by the majority of the planet's population, and with good reason - he's a total nutter. Now, this thread has nothing to do with his political or social beliefs. It's to do with his mental state and his religious beliefs.

In 1993, four of his children - those who have escaped him - were interviewed by a newspaper. They stated that their father's "religious beliefs were either nonexistent to begin with or have dwindled down to nearly nothing." Instead, they claimed his church serves to enable a paraphilia, where he is literally addicted to hate. They argued that his beliefs aren't remotely related to religion, and instead are deliberately hateful, because he enjoys it.

So I therefore question: why hasn't he been commited? If he's addicted to hate, he's clearly a sociopath, and therefore a danger to society. What kind of state is his mind in?

Fred Phelps, the lunatic psycho fundie we all know and love, is a common feature in NS General. He's unsupported by the majority of the planet's population, and with good reason - he's a total nutter. Now, this thread has nothing to do with his political or social beliefs. It's to do with his mental state and his religious beliefs.

In 1993, four of his children - those who have escaped him - were interviewed by a newspaper. They stated that their father's "religious beliefs were either nonexistent to begin with or have dwindled down to nearly nothing." Instead, they claimed his church serves to enable a paraphilia, where he is literally addicted to hate. They argued that his beliefs aren't remotely related to religion, and instead are deliberately hateful, because he enjoys it.

So I therefore question: why hasn't he been commited? If he's addicted to hate, he's clearly a sociopath, and therefore a danger to society. What kind of state is his mind in?


Only his psychologist would know for sure. And I'm quite certain he does not consult one.

So I therefore question: why hasn't he been commited? If he's addicted to hate, he's clearly a sociopath, and therefore a danger to society. What kind of state is his mind in?
How is he dangerous? He's annoying and incorrigible, but I could say the same thing about a fair number on NS.
And the only one who can really know about the mind of Fred Phelps is Fred Phelps, and people, such as ourselves, who haven't even had a face-to-face consultation can't even make an educated guess at him.

For all we know, this could all be some elaborate joke, like Scientology or Marxism.

My personal take on the way he indoctrinated his kids and grandkids is that it's child abuse.

My personal take on the way he indoctrinated his kids and grandkids is that it's child abuse.

Exactly. He's a danger to his children.

My personal take on the way he indoctrinated his kids and grandkids is that it's child abuse.
Unless he utilized a hot box, rubber hose, or such torture device, indoctrinating his kids isn't abuse. People indoctrinate their kids with all sorts of bullshit, I'm still fighting off some lingering after effects of my parents moralising, and that isn't illegal.

Fred Phelps, the lunatic psycho fundie we all know and love, is a common feature in NS General. He's unsupported by the majority of the planet's population, and with good reason - he's a total nutter. Now, this thread has nothing to do with his political or social beliefs. It's to do with his mental state and his religious beliefs.

In 1993, four of his children - those who have escaped him - were interviewed by a newspaper. They stated that their father's "religious beliefs were either nonexistent to begin with or have dwindled down to nearly nothing." Instead, they claimed his church serves to enable a paraphilia, where he is literally addicted to hate. They argued that his beliefs aren't remotely related to religion, and instead are deliberately hateful, because he enjoys it.

So I therefore question: why hasn't he been commited? If he's addicted to hate, he's clearly a sociopath, and therefore a danger to society. What kind of state is his mind in?

It's a sad story actually.

He once was just an ordinary man called Fred Phelps. But when he visited a Bible factory, he had an horrible accident and fell into a stack of mistranslated Bibles.

By the time he was rescued, his mind had already snapped and he had become The Evangelizer.

It's a sad story actually.

He once was just an ordinary man called Fred Phelps. But when he visited a Bible factory, he had an horrible accident and fell into a stack of mistranslated Bibles.

By the time he was rescued, his mind had already snapped and he had become The Evangelizer.
That story isn't plausible in the least. You'll have to at least add a vat of chemicals or some part about him getting bitten by a radioactive Bible if you want me to believe it.

That story isn't plausible in the least. You'll have to at least add a vat of chemicals or some part about him getting bitten by a radioactive Bible if you want me to believe it.

It doesn't need to be plausible. It's Fred Phelps we're talking about.

Unless he utilized a hot box, rubber hose, or such torture device, indoctrinating his kids isn't abuse. People indoctrinate their kids with all sorts of bullshit, I'm still fighting off some lingering after effects of my parents moralising, and that isn't illegal.


The fact that I wouldn't want anyone telling me what I teach my children is why I don't call for legal intrevention. But I still think teaching hate is immoral and abusive.

Do you have a link to that interview? id like to read it.

How is he dangerous? He's annoying and incorrigible, but I could say the same thing about a fair number on NS.
And the only one who can really know about the mind of Fred Phelps is Fred Phelps, and people, such as ourselves, who haven't even had a face-to-face consultation can't even make an educated guess at him.

For all we know, this could all be some elaborate joke, like Scientology or Marxism.

does fred phelps know his own mind? i don't know mine, i'm frequently perplexed by my actions, reactions and thoughts and they're generally quite mild and normal. whatever we think we 'know' of our own minds is coloured by our own self image, so while detached observers might not be able to know much about someone's mind they can at least form a more objective picture of what they can observe.

How is he dangerous? He's annoying and incorrigible, but I could say the same thing about a fair number on NS.

The man's been convicted of numerous accounts of assault and battery, and his policy of "harrass everyone who disagrees with me, and their children by calling him/her a f**/d*** and flooding their inboxes and mailboxes and answering machines and picketing outside their houses" borders on (if not already passing) stalking. Combine all of that with religious knowledge akin to Pat Robertson, and you have the makings of the most batshit insane individual since Charles Manson

I'd call that kind of dangerous.

How come everyone over in that part of the country is too scared or unwilling to prosecute him? I'm sure there's at least seven crimes he's committing at any given moment of the day (e.g. stalking, violating civil rights, promoting violence, etc.)

The entire family is twisted, and what's worse is that they're multiplying.

How come everyone over in that part of the country is too scared or unwilling to prosecute him? I'm sure there's at least seven crimes he's committing at any given moment of the day (e.g. stalking, violating civil rights, promoting violence, etc.)

The entire family is twisted, and what's worse is that they're multiplying.

That's the problem right there; everyone is scared of him, and rightly so, the man has a cult that rivals David Korresh', all they need is a huge stockpile of weapons and they'll be all set. Everyone who has dared to say wrong of him in public has had their lives turned into a veritable living hell with constant phonecalls, letters, and picketing. I heard of one case a young girl who was vistiting her relatives with her parents in Topeka happened to walk past a WBC picket line, and one of the picketers yelled to the little girl "did daddy stick his p**** in you last night?", and others joined in with other obscene chants.

This girl didn't even KNOW who they were, let alone did anything to them. Can you imagine what they would do if you pissed them off?

Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to see this guy placed behind bars in a State Ass-Rape prison. That would be the ultimate in poetic justice.

http://www.plattsburghforpeace.com/fredphelps.htm

If you follow that link, and scroll about halfway down the page, you get to a series of links with chapter headings.

These links comprise an extensive biography of a man who uses religion not for greed, but for hate. Please note that these links do not have anything to do with Phelps' various websites.

I think the term "psychology" implies the subject has a brain. I'm not sure Fred Phelps does.

It doesn't need to be plausible. It's Fred Phelps we're talking about.

Sigged:D

The fact that I wouldn't want anyone telling me what I teach my children is why I don't call for legal intrevention. But I still think teaching hate is immoral and abusive.

Child abuse is endangerment or impairment of a childs physical or mental state. Teaching religion does neither. You could attempt to make the argument that indoctrination impairs the child's mental state, but unless you come up with conclusive, experimental studies that explicitly show that indoctrinated children are not as mentally or emotionally stable as non-indocrinated children, then you've got nothing to stand on. Frankly, I believe indoctrinating someone for the rest of their life is impossible, by adolescence most children are already questioning religion and other social issues. By the time they reach 15-16 they are usually not a member of their parent's religion.

http://www.kidsfirst.com.au/page.php?partid=68

Indoctrination is immoral and counter-productive, if you want your kid to follow your creed than be a good person, a role-model and express your faith outwardly. Saying that your religion is a path to salvation and that all others are false is only going to cause doubt and curiosity in the teenage years. Which usually ends up in a conversion to a different religion.

Mr. Phelps is batshit insane, and his kids really ought to have him committed.

I am thankful for the Patriot Guard Riders who form a counter-protest to the evil bile spewed forth by Fred Phelps. I, and several friends, plan on joining those who stand against hate the next time Phelps comes anywhere nearby to send forth his ugly message.

Shouldn't this thread be titled; The PSYCHOSIS of Fred Phelps?

If Fred Phelps was on a small south Pacific island, he would be the wacko convincing all his tribesmen to throw the virgin into the volcano.

:p

In 1993, four of his children - those who have escaped him - were interviewed by a newspaper. They stated that their father's "religious beliefs were either nonexistent to begin with or have dwindled down to nearly nothing." Instead, they claimed his church serves to enable a paraphilia, where he is literally addicted to hate. They argued that his beliefs aren't remotely related to religion, and instead are deliberately hateful, because he enjoys it.

So I therefore question: why hasn't he been commited? If he's addicted to hate, he's clearly a sociopath, and therefore a danger to society. What kind of state is his mind in?


I truly believe Phelps has other issues than these.
All of that hatred has to come from somewhere.

Even the nuttiest of Christian Fundies dont come even close to this level of raving pyscho.

I believe that Phelps is a latent homosexual, and this outward rage against them is a reflection of his own hatred for what he truly feels.

I wouldnt be surprised if he was repeatedly sexually abused as a child himself by a homosexual pedophile, and this rage Phelps has is due to this as well.

Phelps is the same type of person who rapes and beats a gay victim, to punish the victim for being gay...

Maybe he's angry because he didn't get the role in Poltergeist 2:

http://www.propadeutic.com/faith/authors/PhelpsFred.jpg

http://www.members.tripod.com/edenlynn/rainkane32.jpg

Maybe he's angry because he didn't get the role in Poltergeist 2:

http://www.propadeutic.com/faith/authors/PhelpsFred.jpg

http://www.members.tripod.com/edenlynn/rainkane32.jpg

I hear he auditioned for the part in Phantasm, and lost to Angus Scrimm.

In 1993, four of his children - those who have escaped him - were interviewed by a newspaper. They stated that their father's "religious beliefs were either nonexistent to begin with or have dwindled down to nearly nothing." Instead, they claimed his church serves to enable a paraphilia, where he is literally addicted to hate. They argued that his beliefs aren't remotely related to religion, and instead are deliberately hateful, because he enjoys it.
Good. They confirm what I have always suspected. That he is abusing the name of Christianity as a front for his wannabe-Nazi group.

I am thankful for the Patriot Guard Riders who form a counter-protest to the evil bile spewed forth by Fred Phelps. I, and several friends, plan on joining those who stand against hate the next time Phelps comes anywhere nearby to send forth his ugly message.

I'll do you one better. Next time Phelps and his posse swing through your town, grab a boom-box, some dark clothing, and some sunglasses.

Stand right across the street from the protest, and blast Elton John at volume 11 toward the picketers. Say nothing, do nothing, just stand there with the stereo on your shoulder, staring at them, remember to wear the sunglasses for this.

And when they say something that you find hillarious, just laugh out loud very exaggerated, then abruptly go back to your stoicism.

Now THAT'S protest.

Soldier of the LGBT Army! No, we're not going to turn you gay...

I'll do YOU one better. Grab some clothing that could closely resemble a military uniform, and stick a patch on it that says "Soldier of the LGBT Army" or something liek that on it. :p

And THEN blast Elton John, or some type of boy band :D

Or, better yet.... just stand in plain view of them, doing that, blasting Elton/boy band music, clutching a Harry Potter book, and praising Satan for helping you with your homosexual urges. Then tell "Freddy" he's sexy.

Haven't the mods said something before about making threads about this lunatic and his congregation? I thought it was advised that we stayed away from this issue...

Haven't the mods said something before about making threads about this lunatic and his congregation? I thought it was advised that we stayed away from this issue...

IIRC, as long as no one links to any of his sites, on-topic discussion of them is fine.

It's a sad story actually.

He once was just an ordinary man called Fred Phelps. But when he visited a Bible factory, he had an horrible accident and fell into a stack of mistranslated Bibles.

By the time he was rescued, his mind had already snapped and he had become The Evangelizer.

thats gas.

I'm just happy there isn't Fred phelps like person here in the UK. You poor poor Americans.