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Who thinks this is the case.

G. Brown lost in a poll against Cameron in a papers questionaire, but even though this is unreliable when combined with decaying labour popularity and Blairs refusal to resign, plus the theory of Apathetic voters getting annoyed with whoever is in governemnt and as such giving the opposistion a boost i think a Conservative landslide is not far away, and given the conservatives tendency to lynch their leaders, we might vote for a libertarian and halfway through office get a Statist.
Your thoughts.

Is there any real difference between the parties anyway?

Is there any real difference between the parties anyway?
level of sleaze maybe?



AFAIK, no Labour MP has as yet paid a rentboy to shit his pants and taken said gruds home with him.

Is there any real difference between the parties anyway?

Yes :)
Here it is.

Labour sold out the left to become centrist.
Conservatives are about to sell out the right.

:D

Liberal-Democrats are leaderless and scared of commitment.
Respect Coallition is led by a wannabee-muslim
the greens (As much as the protest they arent) are a single issue party.
UKIP Is really the conservative party.
BNP are nazis
All the communist parties are bickering and dividing up there votes.
The small scale parties, while they can be trusted to keep to what they say, what they say is extreme.
Savvy?

Who thinks this is the case.

G. Brown lost in a poll against Cameron in a papers questionaire, but even though this is unreliable when combined with decaying labour popularity and Blairs refusal to resign, plus the theory of Apathetic voters getting annoyed with whoever is in governemnt and as such giving the opposistion a boost i think a Conservative landslide is not far away, and given the conservatives tendency to lynch their leaders, we might vote for a libertarian and halfway through office get a Statist.
Your thoughts.

First, you have to remember % votes=/= % seats. The Conservatives can bleat as much as they like about getting more votes, but to make a difference they need to increase their vote in specific constituencies, the so-called swing/key marginals that actually decide the outcome of the election.

However, as far as the next election goes, I can see a Tory minority government looking pretty likely, not a landslide. Labour may be unpopular, but without Blair, they may well be able to hang on.

Yes
Here it is.

Labour sold out the left to become centrist.
Conservatives are about to sell out the right.



Liberal-Democrats are leaderless and scared of commitment.
Respect Coallition is led by a wannabee-muslim
the greens (As much as the protest they arent) are a single issue party.
UKIP Is really the conservative party.
BNP are nazis
All the communist parties are bickering and dividing up there votes.
The small scale parties, while they can be trusted to keep to what they say, what they say is extreme.
Savvy?

Everybody loses! :)

level of sleaze maybe?



AFAIK, no Labour MP has as yet paid a rentboy to shit his pants and taken said gruds home with him.

Yes, but the political season is young, is it not? ;)

Who thinks this is the case.

G. Brown lost in a poll against Cameron in a papers questionaire, but even though this is unreliable when combined with decaying labour popularity and Blairs refusal to resign, plus the theory of Apathetic voters getting annoyed with whoever is in governemnt and as such giving the opposistion a boost i think a Conservative landslide is not far away, and given the conservatives tendency to lynch their leaders, we might vote for a libertarian and halfway through office get a Statist.
Your thoughts.

can't see it happening to be honest. also the poll in the paper would have been a poll of the readers of that paper and i'm guessing it wasn't the guardian if cameron won the poll.

Labour sold out the left to become centrist.
Bastards. Hardie would never recognise the shitty party we have today.
Conservatives are about to sell out the right.
Nah. They are keen to seem all nice and user-friendly, but it's not as if the Thatcherites have defected to UKIP. I've a feeling if they got into power it'd be a sudden twist to the right.
Liberal-Democrats are leaderless and scared of commitment.
How so?
Respect Coallition is led by a wannabee-muslim
Spot on.
the greens (As much as the protest they arent) are a single issue party.
Nope, they have policies on everything, not just the envrionment. In fact, I know more green than Tory policy these days.
UKIP Is really the conservative party.
Although the Tories denounce them as crypto-fascists. Whatever that means...
BNP are nazis
All the communist parties are bickering and dividing up there votes.
The only Communist party that takes part in elections is the CPB, so they can't divide the vote.
The small scale parties, while they can be trusted to keep to what they say, what they say is extreme.
Vote Monster Raving Loony Party!

can't see it happening to be honest. also the poll in the paper would have been a poll of the readers of that paper and i'm guessing it wasn't the guardian if cameron won the poll.

In fact it was the guardian :P
got it in one

can't see it happening to be honest. also the poll in the paper would have been a poll of the readers of that paper and i'm guessing it wasn't the guardian if cameron won the poll.

Wrong! I saw it in yesterday's Guardian.

Due to seat control Labour are still sitting fairly safe...
Which is odd given their attempt to crush democracy. :headbang:

On the other hand, there is a pretty good chance that we might actually get an effective democratic election system after the next election, which might encourage the ruling party to actually do things for the good of the country rather than the good of the 20% or so that voted for them. :)

Should the Conservatives win they will revert to type because there is no way to hld them accountable until they decide to hold another election, when they will mouth false platitudes until they are re-elected and then they will get back to screwing the country (although not as seriously as Labour has been trying).
:(

It will be interesting to see if any of the parties take a position on the crucial issues in the run up to the next election or whether, as has happened so many times in the past, all the key parties will just ignore them and campaign over pointless window dressing.

well bugger me sideways, that's suprising. so has the guardian abandoned the left too?

In fact it was the guardian :P
got it in one

Yeah, but it was done by ICM, who also do polls for the Sundy Telegraph and the NOTW, not by Guardian readers.

If Cameron wins the next election, I'm going to do a U-turn and vote for Scottish Independence ASAP. :mad:

On the other hand, there is a pretty good chance that we might actually get an effective democratic election system after the next election, which might encourage the ruling party to actually do things for the good of the country rather than the good of the 20% or so that voted for them. :)

And then I wake from my happy little dream. I mean, would Labour actually deliver on a campaign promice in reality?

I urge you to vote yourselves, and convince others to vote for, minority parties and candidates.
Just to f**k them both up.

In a government with say,

67 Liberal Democrats
124 Conservatives
223 Labour
and the rest divided among Green, Respect, Plaid Cymru and SNP.

A government would get the poiint