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Empire of Neo-Assyria

New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 04:57
Empire of Neo-Assyria:Map (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Reagan-digitised-poster_PNG.png)
Population: 80,000,000
Capital: Baghdad
Government: Constitutional Monarchy.
Ethnic groups: Arabs, Persians, Kurds.
Religions: 85% Orthodox Christian, 10% Bah'ai, 3% Sufi, 2% Sunni Islam.
Economy: Centerist Capitalism. 50% Permissive
Political: Conservative. 20% Permissive
Allies: USA, EU, Isreal

This would be my plan on how to change the middle east for the future. Radically changing the area to include a peacefull end of Islamofascism. It contains all of Iraq, Iran, Syria and Jordan. Parts of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Afganistan.
Laerod
23-09-2006, 05:08
The Kurds won't like it.
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 05:13
The Kurds won't like it.

The Kurds will be considered a nation within a nation. They would have their own parliment and their own home rule. The Kurds will have complete suffrage. I'm all for Kurdish rights.
Laerod
23-09-2006, 05:23
The Kurds will be considered a nation within a nation. They would have their own parliment and their own home rule. The Kurds will have complete suffrage. I'm all for Kurdish rights.I'm still sure they won't like it. If they're willing to commit acts of terrorism now in order to get an independent Kurdistan, they won't settle for an autonomous region.
Plus, the Turks wouldn't like the Kurds having an autonomous region of that proportion.
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 05:27
I'm not for oppressing any groups except al qaeda but if you give them enough concessions the should be ok.
East of Eden is Nod
23-09-2006, 17:27
Empire of Neo-Assyria:Map (http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sir_mercutio_99/detail?.dir=a302re2&.dnm=2066re2.jpg&.src=ph)
Population: 80,000,000
Capital: Baghdad
Government: Constitutional Monarchy.
Ethnic groups: Arabs, Persians, Kurds.
Religions: 85% Orthodox Christian, 10% Bah'ai, 3% Sufi, 2% Sunni Islam.
Economy: Centerist Capitalism. 50% Permissive
Political: Conservative. 20% Permissive
Allies: USA, EU, Isreal

This would be my plan on how to change the middle east for the future. Radically changing the area to include a peacefull end of Islamofascism. It contains all of Iraq, Iran, Syria and Jordan. Parts of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Afganistan.


Does Jordan include Cisjordan?
The Potato Factory
23-09-2006, 17:31
That's even crazier than Hitler's ideas.

Although I'd love to see New Daleks II running through "Neo-Assyria", spouting Orthodox Christianity to muslims.
Neo-Mechanus
23-09-2006, 17:33
That's even crazier than Hitler's ideas.

Although I'd love to see New Daleks II running through "Neo-Assyria", spouting Orthodox Christianity to muslims.

Yeah, I was wondering where he was getting the 85% Orthodox Christian from myself. ô_o
Ostroeuropa
23-09-2006, 17:36
Thats Great :D
So... What about the jews?
They would get snapped up and genocided.

Hmmm... Turkey has betrayed its islamic roots.
Lets eat it.

Suddenly you've given a new Ottoman empire power, and with todays markets dependant on Oil, LOTS of power.
Noone will want to disagree with it as it snaps up eygypt and north africa.

Good Man.
Rhaomi
23-09-2006, 17:55
Religions: 85% Orthodox Christian, 10% Bah'ai, 3% Sufi, 2% Sunni Islam.

There's a big difference between getting rid of Islamofascism, and getting rid of Islam. Where did all the Muslims go? :confused:
Neo Kervoskia
23-09-2006, 17:57
There's a big difference between getting rid of Islamofascism, and getting rid of Islam. Where did all the Muslims go? :confused:
To special reform camps.
Trotskylvania
23-09-2006, 18:10
To special reform camps.

I hear Big Brother calling...
The Potato Factory
23-09-2006, 18:11
There's a big difference between getting rid of Islamofascism, and getting rid of Islam. Where did all the Muslims go? :confused:

Well, since islam is a largely extreme and fundamental religion, I imagine that a number of muslims would leave the faith entirely if "islamofascism" was levelled. However, not THAT many.
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 19:06
Thats Great :D
So... What about the jews?
They would get snapped up and genocided.

Hmmm... Turkey has betrayed its islamic roots.
Lets eat it.

Suddenly you've given a new Ottoman empire power, and with todays markets dependant on Oil, LOTS of power.
Noone will want to disagree with it as it snaps up eygypt and north africa.

Good Man.


I would be in support of Isreal. Isreal is to be left alone. Yes I would have to convert most of the people to Orthodox Christianity. before Islam most of the area was Christian anyway. I would to what Ann Coulter said in one of her books. I would later capture Constantinople and turn the Hagia Sofia back into a Christian church.

To special reform camps.
Yes.
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 19:09
I hear Big Brother calling...

Hmm...not a communist but more toward totalitarian capitalist.
Trotskylvania
23-09-2006, 19:11
Hmm...not a communist but more toward totalitarian capitalist.

Is there really that much difference between totalitarian capitalism and totalitarian collectivism?
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 19:14
Is there really that much difference between totalitarian capitalism and totalitarian collectivism?

Yes Collectivism is evil. Capitalism is good. Collectivism supports ellites and laziness. Capitalism supports hard work and equality.
Trotskylvania
23-09-2006, 19:18
Yes Collectivism is evil. Capitalism is good. Collectivism supports ellites and laziness.

Collectivism only supports elites if it is un democratic.

Capitalism supports hard work and equality.

... for the property owning elite.
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 19:24
Thats Great :D
So... What about the jews?
They would get snapped up and genocided

Absolutly No! The Jewish people are god's people and can never be elimnated, to try would be sucidal. It would be betraying them as my allies and would recieve the wrath of God, the USA and Europe.

I'm not anti-semetic!
Trotskylvania
23-09-2006, 19:30
Absolutly No! The Jewish people are god's people and can never be elimnated, to try would be sucidal. It would be betraying them as my allies and would recieve the wrath of God, the USA and Europe.

I'm not anti-semetic!

Apparently it's fine to advocate the cultural genocide of over a hundred million muslims but it's intolerable to even suggest the same happening to Israel.
Kyronea
23-09-2006, 19:31
Well, since islam is a largely extreme and fundamental religion, I imagine that a number of muslims would leave the faith entirely if "islamofascism" was levelled. However, not THAT many.

But Christianity is wholesome and good for you! Remember kids, it's okay to love some guy who lagged badly on respawning, but not okay to love Allah. Hate the evil Muslims!

:rolleyes: doesn't even begin to cover it.
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 19:35
Apparently it's fine to advocate the cultural genocide of over a hundred million muslims but it's intolerable to even suggest the same happening to Israel.

Well they did the same to the middle eastern christians. Pope Benidict was correct that the muslims used force to convert the area. I wouldn't commit genocide(Murder) against the people & I still would have a small Muslim minority. Just conversion to Christianity.
Trotskylvania
23-09-2006, 19:39
Well they did the same to the middle eastern christians. Pope Benidict was correct that the muslims used force to convert the area. I wouldn't commit genocide(Murder) against the people & I still would have a small Muslim minority. Just conversion to Christianity.

Two wrongs don't make a right. There is only one way you could convert that many people to Christianity, and that is at the end of a gun. Millions would defy your attempt. What would you do with them? My bet is that they'd end up lined infront of a long ditch Eintzgruppen style.
Destroying someone's culture is almost as bad as wholesale slaughter. Many people would rather die than give up on their heritage.
Neo-Mechanus
23-09-2006, 19:41
I stopped reading after "Ann Coulter".
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 19:48
Two wrongs don't make a right. There is only one way you could convert that many people to Christianity, and that is at the end of a gun. Millions would defy your attempt. What would you do with them? My bet is that they'd end up lined infront of a long ditch Eintzgruppen style.
Destroying someone's culture is almost as bad as wholesale slaughter. Many people would rather die than give up on their heritage.


You forget that the Nazi's were also collectivist socialists. I thinking of more like giving them an incentive. Like food, water, clothes. Yeah you might have a few than need to re-educated but thats what the Re-Neducation centers are for.

I stopped reading after "Ann Coulter".

Why? You should read her books their excellent.
Neo-Mechanus
23-09-2006, 19:53
You forget that the Nazi's were also collectivist socialists. I thinking of more like giving them an incentive. Like food, water, clothes. Yeah you might have a few than need to re-educated but thats what the Re-Neducation centers are for.



Why? You should read her books their excellent.

You really are a Dalek. What right do you have to do such a thing? And for your information, I have read her books, they make me sad that a so-called Christian could have such sick ideas.
Trotskylvania
23-09-2006, 19:54
You forget that the Nazi's were also collectivist socialists. I thinking of more like giving them an incentive. Like food, water, clothes. Yeah you might have a few than need to re-educated but thats what the Re-Neducation centers are for.

1. Naziism is what happens when centrism goes completely mad. It has nothing to do with socialism. It is based on corporatist philospophy and decides to masquearade as socialism.

2. Incentives don't make people people change religon. Most people wouldn't even do it at gun point. The Eintzgruppen point still stands.

3. You're just trading one fanatical religious belief for another. I shudder how you plan to "re-educate" these people.

Why? You should read her books their excellent.

I have read her books, and find her to be a completely mindless spout of neo-con dogma. At first I thought her books were a a clever satire. Then I realized they were neither clever nor satirical.
Laerod
23-09-2006, 19:58
I would be in support of Isreal. Isreal is to be left alone. Yes I would have to convert most of the people to Orthodox Christianity. before Islam most of the area was Christian anyway. I would to what Ann Coulter said in one of her books. I would later capture Constantinople and turn the Hagia Sofia back into a Christian church.Uh, oh. You're using Ann Coulter for inspiration in this? Bad idea.
Laerod
23-09-2006, 20:00
Well they did the same to the middle eastern christians. Pope Benidict was correct that the muslims used force to convert the area. I wouldn't commit genocide(Murder) against the people & I still would have a small Muslim minority. Just conversion to Christianity.Pope Benedict XVI never said anything of the sort. He spoke out against using religion to justify violence or to commit violence in the name of religion and cited an example. He didn't single out Islam.
Laerod
23-09-2006, 20:02
You forget that the Nazi's were also collectivist socialists. I thinking of more like giving them an incentive. Like food, water, clothes. Yeah you might have a few than need to re-educated but thats what the Re-Neducation centers are for."Re-Neducation centers"? A Simpson reference?
Why? You should read her books their excellent.That statement and your atrocious grammar lead me to believe that you are a trolling puppet made to make conservatives and Christians look bad.
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 20:06
"Re-Neducation centers"? A Simpson reference?
That statement and your atrocious grammar lead me to believe that you are a trolling puppet made to make conservatives and Christians look bad.

Hmm maybe....but not trolling. More like Johnathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal". More like shock value (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_value).
Neo-Mechanus
23-09-2006, 20:06
Hmm maybe....but not trolling.

So, you're just insane then?
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 20:09
So, you're just insane then?

My mom always told me the line between insanity and genuis was very thin. But no i'm very sane.
Laerod
23-09-2006, 20:10
Hmm maybe....but not trolling. More like Johnathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal".Please don't compare yourself to J. Swift. He was a God when it came to satire ;)
Trotskylvania
23-09-2006, 20:11
New Daleks II, you haven't answered my critiques yet.
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 20:11
Please don't compare yourself to J. Swift. He was a God when it came to satire ;)

Ok then SNL? Satire is Satire. Anyone can be satirical. I wasn't trying to provoke a flame Laerod. If someone on tv said it you might of laughed at the absurdity. Hugs Laerod....better?

New Daleks II, you haven't answered my critiques yet.

Read above......I was joking.
Neo-Mechanus
23-09-2006, 20:14
My mom always told me the line between insanity and genuis was very thin. But no i'm very sane.

Mom's say a lot of things.
Trotskylvania
23-09-2006, 20:17
Read above......I was joking.

That joke had some really low taste value... wi- five!
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 20:24
That joke had some really low taste value... wi- five!

No more than SNL or Madtv or South Park but sometimes it can go overboard. I'm sure someone got offended by the idea of invading Canada.

Mom's say a lot of things

Yeah my mom says some really crazy stuff.
Sel Appa
23-09-2006, 20:26
85% Orthodox Christian

Hell Fucking No! We have enough Christians already. They should all just be split down into their own nations and depose all the governments so liberal republics can be formed.
Neo Kervoskia
23-09-2006, 21:02
This DK-impersonator has shamed himself for 7,500 posts.
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 21:13
This DK-impersonator has shamed himself for 7,500 posts.

Huh? It was an all a joke....
Neo Kervoskia
23-09-2006, 21:15
Huh? It was an all a joke....

Wir haben das nicht gekennt.
Laerod
23-09-2006, 21:17
Ok then SNL? Satire is Satire. Anyone can be satirical. I wasn't trying to provoke a flame Laerod. If someone on tv said it you might of laughed at the absurdity. Hugs Laerod....better?Oh, don't worry about me. Nah, I'm just a tad annoyed at the constant stream of pretend neocons. I'd prefer to be able to yell "BULLSHIT!" at a loud volume whenever a right-winger accuses the "liberals" of slandering the right. And satire isn't satire. "A Modest Proposal" was a masterpiece. First he starts off describing the situation and how it's bad before making the ludicrous and obviously overblown proposal to solve it. That's style and few people can match it ;)
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 21:19
Traurig spreche ich nicht Deutsches. Ich versuchte nur, Satire zu verursachen, aber ich denke, daß Leute sie zu ernst nahmen.
Laerod
23-09-2006, 21:21
Traurig spreche ich nicht Deutsches. Ich versuchte nur, Satire zu verursachen, aber ich denke, daß Leute sie zu ernst nahmen.If it makes you feel better, Neo-K used Babelfish too.
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 21:24
Oh, don't worry about me. Nah, I'm just a tad annoyed at the constant stream of pretend neocons. I'd prefer to be able to yell "BULLSHIT!" at a loud volume whenever a right-winger accuses the "liberals" of slandering the right. And satire isn't satire. "A Modest Proposal" was a masterpiece. First he starts off describing the situation and how it's bad before making the ludicrous and obviously overblown proposal to solve it. That's style and few people can match it ;)

No more than when Matt Stone or Trey Parker make jokes about the left. I love South Park even though I consider myself a liberal and as I said I sure someone got offended by them about the idea of invanding Canada or Satan and Saddam having sex.

What does gekennt mean?
Laerod
23-09-2006, 21:25
No more than when Matt Stone or Trey Parker make jokes about the left. I love South Park even though I consider myself a liberal and as I said I sure someone got offended by them about the idea of invanding Canada or Satan and Saddam having sex.I love South Park too. It just happens to be over a medium unlike a forum. The context plays an important role in satire.
New Daleks II
23-09-2006, 21:29
I love South Park too. It just happens to be over a medium unlike a forum. The context plays an important role in satire.


Sorry...Maybe next time I'll put "Satire" in big words. I never mean't people to think I was flaming. TV is a better meduim but not many people have access to it but I could always create my own website.

I wasn't meaning that I was trying to do High-Satire(Swift) more like Low Satire(SNL,Madtv etc...)