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According to my step-dad, whom I really am having a love-hate relationship with right now, I can get killed on NSG. How? According to him, people are right now as I type this message hacking into my computer, for no good reason. They then will decide, for the hell of it, to monitor what I do on my computer. They will see me posting political, moral, and religiousopinions on here that they don't agree with, then go through the trouble of tracking me down, coming to my school or house, and kill me. When I asked my step-dad where else I was supposed to do what I love, he told me anywhere else besides on the computer. I asked him where that was supposed to be. He said school. Now then, you may or may not know how much the average Californian High Schooler knows about politics. To put it simply, all they know about politics is what they hear from their parents or from the teachers. They will stick to an opinion just because it was the first they heard, and no matter how much evidence to the contrary they will stick to it. Would you enjoy debating with someone like that? And besides that no one would even want to debate with me because they don't care about politics, religion, or morals. Then when I told him I had protection against hackers(I have about five non-commercial proxies running in the background [We all know non-commercial proxies do a hell of a lot of a better job than commercial ones]). He said that I don't know anything about computers. However, whenever he needs help with computers, he asks me. So yeah... Tell me what you think.

i think you need to teach your stepdad about firewalls

i think you need to teach your stepdad about firewalls

He won't listen. He thinks I'm a stupid kid who doesn't know anything when I'm trying to prove him wrong, but as in the OP he loves my tech savvy skills when I'm doing something helpful for him.

Why on earth would you tell a parent about your interests?!

They get involved when you do that!!

Why on earth would you tell a parent about your interests?!

They get involved when you do that!!

They have a tendency to "hover".

EDIT: In other words, I have no other choice but to tell them what I'm doing.

Well, it goes like this. Ruffy, H N, Dobbsworld, and myself are probably going to rape you with a blunt instrument.

Be careful, there are some crazy ass people on NSG. Your potential killer is probably who you least suspect...

tell him youre doing some work for school on the comp, thats what i do, and why i type soo fast and spell so bad :P

I am watching you now.

tell him youre doing some work for school on the comp, thats what i do, and why i type soo fast and spell so bad :P

He already knows what NS is. And there's no "political science" class in High School, at least where I am.

Well, it goes like this. Ruffy, H N, Dobbsworld, and myself are probably going to rape you with a blunt instrument.

Can i help?

Way to generalize all Californians. I guess that you are the only one that knows politics and the rest are wrong, then.

They have a tendency to "hover".

EDIT: In other words, I have no other choice but to tell them what I'm doing.

Ack!

Move the computer.

*nods*

Be careful, there are some crazy ass people on NSG. Your potential killer is probably who you least suspect...

Yeah, but do any of them have the hacking skills to get past my five proxies, and then have enough patience and hate for me to find out where I live, come here, and kill me?

you could point out to him that it would actually be more convienient for people at school to kill you because of your political/religious veiws, and also teenagers are shady and that's why you come on here all anonymous. ;)

Way to generalize all Californians. I guess that you are the only one that knows politics and the rest are wrong, then.

Exactly.

Ack!

Move the computer.

*nods*

It's my mom's computer. In fact, she occasionally bitches at me for being on it so much since it's "her" computer. She never even uses the damn thing.

Well, it goes like this. Ruffy, H N, Dobbsworld, and myself are probably going to rape you with a blunt instrument.

Like a trumpet mute.

Way to generalize all Californians. I guess that you are the only one that knows politics and the rest are wrong, then.

No, I'm talking about the average Oakland area High School student.

Well, it goes like this. Ruffy, H N, Dobbsworld, and myself are probably going to rape you with a blunt instrument.

... only after we finish raping each other with blunt instruments, Neo. C'mon, it's the closest thing to a date I've had in weeks.

And anyway, you promised - !

Yeah, but do any of them have the hacking skills to get past my five proxies, and then have enough patience and hate for me to find out where I live, come here, and kill me?

Hard to tell. As I understand it, the standard firewalls are pretty much a joke. Still, do you have political opinions so radical to drive a NSer into a murderous rage? :p

It's my mom's computer. In fact, she occasionally bitches at me for being on it so much since it's "her" computer. She never even uses the damn thing.

Ah.

Well then.. *shrugs*

Tell them that you tell us that you are a programmer from Boston and such.

do you have political opinions so radical to drive a NSer into a murderous rage? :p

No, that'd be me.

Hard to tell. As I understand it, the standard firewalls are pretty much a joke. Still, do you have political opinions so radical to drive a NSer into a murderous rage? :p

I don't use "standard" firewalls, if by those you mean the commercial ones which are overly advertised, like Norton or McAffe (My mom does have them on here but I turn them off since all they do is take up RAM). Instead I use more appropriate ones like Tor and FoxyProxy.

EDIT: And I've recently become severly more moderate.

... only after we finish raping each other with blunt instruments, Neo. C'mon, it's the closest thing to a date I've had in weeks.

And anyway, you promised - !

Well, it is your birthday afterall.

Tell your step dad I'm going to kill you.

Ah.

Well then.. *shrugs*

Tell them that you tell us that you are a programmer from Boston and such.

But according to my step-dad they can track me down to exactly the place I live. So that won't do anything.

your step-dad's logic is not rational. I would say that it is based on a fear of things that he doesn't understand (such as the internet).

I highly doubt that anything you post here could so insense someone that they would go to that much trouble to kill you. not to mention the kind of computer skills and resorces they would need to carry out the senario he is proposing are not very likely to be possessed by the sort of raging homicidal lunitic that would read something on a message board and decide to kill the author of it.

But according to my step-dad they can track me down to exactly the place I live. So that won't do anything.

actually I can, but I am not the murderous type, and yeah, there are some freaks around here (a few of them that creep me out seriously)

but you should scroll up and read my original post.....it's helpful.

you could point out to him that it would actually be more convienient for people at school to kill you because of your political/religious veiws, and also teenagers are shady and that's why you come on here all anonymous. ;)

Argh. Sorry bout that Smunkee. Didn't notice that, went directly to page two... But that might be a good idea.

actually I can, but I am not the murderous type, and yeah, there are some freaks around here (a few of them that creep me out seriously)

but you should scroll up and read my original post.....it's helpful.

And you can get past five proxies to do that?

Fuck, he found me out!
*deletes account and destroys Jolt servers*

And you can get past five proxies to do that?

I can connect directly to your computer, I know your IP address.

But according to my step-dad they can track me down to exactly the place I live. So that won't do anything.

Are you Bulgarian?

I don't use "standard" firewalls, if by those you mean the commercial ones which are overly advertised, like Norton or McAffe (My mom does have them on here but I turn them off since all they do is take up RAM). Instead I use more appropriate ones like Tor and FoxyProxy.

EDIT: And I've recently become severly more moderate.

As I understand it you don't have to have the skills yourself but you can hire a company to track you down and get all your personal info. Long as you have the green you can find the secrets of whoever you want.

your step-dad's logic is not rational. I would say that it is based on a fear of things that he doesn't understand (such as the internet).

I highly doubt that anything you post here could so insense someone that they would go to that much trouble to kill you. not to mention the kind of computer skills and resorces they would need to carry out the senario he is proposing are not very likely to be possessed by the sort of raging homicidal lunitic that would read something on a message board and decide to kill the author of it.

Oh but he does understand it! He gets all of his information from the news! And we all know the news ALWAYS tells the truth and everything they say applies to EVERYONE. :rolleyes:

And according to him, there are people like that, and I apparently can post something like that.

I can connect directly to your computer, I know your IP address.

Yes, but that's connecting through the INTERNET, which I have blockaded by several proxies.

Are you Bulgarian?

No... Wait, is this about the NEDM thing? Where they tracked him down via his IP address?

Yes, but that's connecting through the INTERNET, which I have blockaded by several proxies.

I don't think you understand. Your proxies don't bother me, they are easily disabled.

No... Wait, is this about the NEDM thing? Where they tracked him down via his IP address?

If you're not Bulagarian, then you have nothing to fear. Everyone hates Bulgaria.

As I understand it you don't have to have the skills yourself but you can hire a company to track you down and get all your personal info. Long as you have the green you can find the secrets of whoever you want.

And here comes the question of who would be enraged enough by an opinion to spend that kind of money just to track me down and kill me?

I don't think you understand. Your proxies don't bother me, they are easily disabled.

Sure, Norton and McAffe are easy enough to be disabled, but how about the ones that are designed for the sake of actually protecting computers instead of just looking pretty to make a few bucks?

Sure, Norton and McAffe are easy enough to be disabled, but how about the ones that are designed for the sake of actually protecting computers instead of just looking pretty to make a few bucks?

and my husband who works in network security has to disable professional grade proxies day in and day out to connect to people's computers, I may not have the knowledge but I have someone under my thumb who can and will do it (not that I would...gosh I sound scary)


anyway, you can't be too safe.

and my husband who works in network security has to disable professional grade proxies day in and day out to connect to people's computers, I may not have the knowledge but I have someone under my thumb who can and will do it (not that I would...gosh I sound scary)


anyway, you can't be too safe.

Why do you think I'm constantly on the look out for more proxies? I'm trying to build up as much of a wall as possible. Let's also not forget that I have some tools of my own to screw around with anybody's computer who wishes to try and get into mine.

Why do you think I'm constantly on the look out for more proxies? I'm trying to build up as much of a wall as possible. Let's also not forget that I have some tools of my own to screw around with anybody's computer who wishes to try and get into mine.

even if you got into mine(which you couldn't) , you wouldn't find anything.

I would tell him that it would be harder for a hacker to track you down with the information from your computer then it would be for some guy with a phone book, assuming you don't have your name on any documents on your computer.
So we have a 1 in 19,999 chance that the hacker actually gets in with your firewall, then a 1 in 1,000 chance that he can find some information on you, then another 1 in 1000 chance that he'll care about your political beliefs enough to kill you, then add another 1 in 10 chance that he knows how to find a california phone book and how to look up an address with a phone number.
Total:1 in 199,990,000,000
You'll notice that those odds are much worse then the odds of winning the lottery. Might want to ask him if he's willing to buy a lottery ticket at those odds first, if he doesn't already.

By the way, the chances of someone at school trying are quite a bit higher:
They probably already know your name so we'll skip a bit:
1 in 1000 chance they care about your political beliefs enough to kill you.
1 in 2 chance they can find a california phone book and know how to look up an address with a phone number.
Total:1 in 2000 chance they'll be able to kill you. Worse chance of actually doing it, probably, but this is still better odds for them then on the internet.
It's about ninety nine million times better, in fact.

EDIT: Forgot to mention:
The odds of someone actually doing it are worse then I gave, because the kind of person that's smart enough to get past five proxies is not usually the kind of person that gets so angry they try to kill you because of some stuff you posted on the internet.

Oh but he does understand it! He gets all of his information from the news! And we all know the news ALWAYS tells the truth and everything they say applies to EVERYONE. :rolleyes:

And according to him, there are people like that, and I apparently can post something like that.

*nods* People who's lives are controled by fear are hard to get along with.

Do you know any adults that work in IT? More specifically, does your stepdad know anyone like that, whose opinion he trusts? Sounds like your stepdad would be more likely to listen to the opinion of another adult than take your word for it, however sound your computer knowledge might be.

No, I'm talking about the average Oakland area High School student.
Fairfield is not "Oakland area".

And here comes the question of who would be enraged enough by an opinion to spend that kind of money just to track me down and kill me?

Hey, we are all jumping on the paranoia bandwagon aren't we? Why be rational when wondering who on NSG would want to do you harm is so much more interesting? Deciding your step-dad has a point would make things so much more interesting. ;)

Is your stepdad related to Ted Stevens?

Do you know any adults that work in IT? More specifically, does your stepdad know anyone like that, whose opinion he trusts? Sounds like your stepdad would be more likely to listen to the opinion of another adult than take your word for it, however sound your computer knowledge might be.


Fairfield is not "Oakland area".

Yes. In fact, I might as well be in IT myself. My step-dad, on the other hand, only knows about computers and the internet from the news. Because, well, just read my previous posts.

And it might as well be.

I banished my father from my room for the day. <.<

Is your stepdad related to Ted Stevens?

Th-th-the internet is not something you just dump something on, it's not a big truck. It-it-it's a series of tubes!

I banished my father from my room for the day. <.<

Wish my parents had enough respect to occassionally listen to my wishes.

Wish my parents had enough respect to occassionally listen to my wishes.
I value my privacy, and I've made it clear to them (especially my father). I'm a difficult person as it is, being depressive and all - so it's best for them that I don't kick up a fuss. :D

Yes. In fact, I might as well be in IT myself. My step-dad, on the other hand, only knows about computers and the internet from the news. Because, well, just read my previous posts.

And it might as well be.
Meh, not really. But whatever, that's beside the point.

Try having one of the IT people you know explain it to your stepdad. He might be more willing to see reason if he hears the same thing you've been telling him come from the lips of another adult. If that doesn't work... well, are there other places you can use the internet? School, libraries, etc?

Meh, not really. But whatever, that's beside the point.

Try having one of the IT people you know explain it to your stepdad. He might be more willing to see reason if he hears the same thing you've been telling him come from the lips of another adult. If that doesn't work... well, are there other places you can use the internet? School, libraries, etc?

In school they've blocked jolt. And I can't freely be anywhere besides my house and school. If I go somewhere, my parents will come with me.

Th-th-the internet is not something you just dump something on, it's not a big truck. It-it-it's a series of tubes!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

*nods*


















:D

I value my privacy, and I've made it clear to them (especially my father). I'm a difficult person as it is, being depressive and all - so it's best for them that I don't kick up a fuss. :D

I asked them to respect my privacy, but they decided as long as I live under their roof I don't have "privacy".

Maybe your Dad thinks you're spending too much time on the computer and wants you to go outside and interact with people in real life?

I asked them to respect my privacy, but they decided as long as I live under their roof I don't have "privacy".

Well...they do pay the bills, so yea they're right.

Maybe your Dad thinks you're spending too much time on the computer and wants you to go outside and interact with people in real life?

Firstly, it's my step-dad. Secondly, he's tried that. It failed miserably.

Firstly, it's my step-dad. Secondly, he's tried that. It failed miserably.

sorry, step-dad.

Firstly, it's my step-dad. Secondly, he's tried that. It failed miserably.

Real life and the outdoors are overrated anyway. :)

In school they've blocked jolt. And I can't freely be anywhere besides my house and school. If I go somewhere, my parents will come with me.

forums2.jolt.co.uk
forums3.jolt.co.uk
forums4.jolt.co.uk

and so on and so forth. :)

Maybe your Dad thinks you're spending too much time on the computer and wants you to go outside and interact with people in real life?

Life is overrated.

Life is overrated.

Ahh, yes - so it is, grasshopper. Just as non-existence is not all it's scratched to be. The two are one; and both reek not of the lily, but of the bogwater.

:rolleyes: Firstly, it's my step-dad. Secondly, he's tried that. It failed miserably.

Hehe, reminds me of Shaun of the Dead.

You're step-dad sounds like he's been brainwashed by the media. I had the, "They can track me down and kill me fears" when I was 9 or 10, when I first started playing Starcraft online.

But yeah, would you mind giving me your address for some very unrelated reasons?:rolleyes:

Well...they do pay the bills, so yea they're right.
Indeed, they do basically lay the law down in the house; however, giving him the courtesy of some privacy wouldn't be preposterous, in my opinion - in fact it is abnormal that they don't.

Firstly, it's my step-dad. Secondly, he's tried that. It failed miserably.
I hate it when parents try and interfere with their anti-social teens (comme moi-meme). As if not going on the PC will mean spending more time with people...

Indeed, they do basically lay the law down in the house; however, giving him the courtesy of some privacy wouldn't be preposterous, in my opinion - in fact it is abnormal that they don't.


Yea, but if they're paying the internet bills, then they do have a right what is being done on the service that they're paying for.

Yea, but if they're paying the internet bills, then they do have a right what is being done on the service that they're paying for.
I agree - luckily my parents are not so meddlesome. On the other hand, I've always been mature and independent, so they've never needed to (same with my brother). I'm too old now for that anyway. ^^

Yea, but if they're paying the internet bills, then they do have a right what is being done on the service that they're paying for.

QFT. If the computer is out in the open, how this is a privacy issue anyway? Surely you have your own room where you are granted at least basic privacy? No offense, but you come off a little bratty ...And if you cant crack a high-school web-blocker, you aint got no skills at all my freind :D

No, I'm talking about the average Oakland area High School student.

Here's a hint: don't give out any info about where you go to school... where you live... what you look like... what your name is...

You're more likely to be tracked down by that than by evil hackers finding out your IP address. :rolleyes:

Here's a hint: don't give out any info about where you go to school... where you live... what you look like... what your name is...

You're more likely to be tracked down by that than by evil hackers finding out your IP address. :rolleyes:

Good advice!

In school they've blocked jolt. And I can't freely be anywhere besides my house and school. If I go somewhere, my parents will come with me.
Wait, really? The only places you're allowed to be unsupervised by your parents are home and school? How old are you again?

Ahh, yes - so it is, grasshopper. Just as non-existence is not all it's scratched to be. The two are one; and both reek not of the lily, but of the bogwater.

The two are one, yes. Happiness is achieved by balancing the existance and non-existance to be both here and not here at the same time.

Do I have the statistics to back up the following statement? No, it's just my impression. That said, it is probably much more likely that your father, or another family member, will kill you, than someone at your school, at the mall, or from the internet. Domestic violence is much more prevalent than random violence. Sadly, I might add. :(

You should have told him NS was a porn site. That would have avoided this whole mess.

Actually, that sounds just like my mother. But they won't just kill me, they'll steal my identity, take lots of money from me, stalk me and my family, torture and rape us all, and THEN they'll kill us. If we're lucky.

And by them, it means YOU. You reading this right now. YOU want to do this to me. Well, don't! Then my mother will be right, and I hate that shit.

QFT. If the computer is out in the open, how this is a privacy issue anyway? Surely you have your own room where you are granted at least basic privacy? No offense, but you come off a little bratty ...And if you cant crack a high-school web-blocker, you aint got no skills at all my freind :D

Well, if I had the abilities to actually remotely access the school computer, which I don't (all I know is how to remotely AFFECT, not access), I would be able to take Jolt off the block list. And it's impossible to do it right there. At least, I don't know how.

Real life and the outdoors are overrated anyway. :)

Outdoors I enjoy. People I don't.

Wait, really? The only places you're allowed to be unsupervised by your parents are home and school? How old are you again?

13, 14 in a few weeks.

Yea, but if they're paying the internet bills, then they do have a right what is being done on the service that they're paying for.

Along the lines of that logic: Since the Government pays for all of our protection, etc., that means they can access all of our private information.

Here's a hint: don't give out any info about where you go to school... where you live... what you look like... what your name is...

You're more likely to be tracked down by that than by evil hackers finding out your IP address. :rolleyes:

Oh, but Kat! They can find out THAT information by hacking! :rolleyes:

Along the lines of that logic: Since the Government pays for all of our protection, etc., that means they can access all of our private information.
Erm, who pays taxes to actually sustain the government? :rolleyes: ;)

Oh, but Kat! They can find out THAT information by hacking! :rolleyes:
Well, the could, but I doubt anyone on NS could possibly be considered worth the effort. Paranoia always starts with a vastly inflated sense of self-importance.

Outdoors I enjoy. People I don't.
In Soviet Russia, outdoors enjoys YOU!

Aside from that lame joke, I agree - people suck. Nature is more fun; too bad wherever you go nowadays you cannot avoid the human scourge. <.<

Oh, but Kat! They can find out THAT information by hacking! :rolleyes:

Or by you telling us you're an "Oakland area" student. :D

In Soviet Russia, outdoors enjoys YOU!
That sounds very rape-ish, though.
And now, after having watched Alice, I know I'm going to have dreams about the Russian Countryside becoming alive and chasing after preteen girls.
You and Svankmejer, always fucking with my head.
Aside from that lame joke, I agree - people suck. Nature is more fun; too bad wherever you go nowadays you cannot avoid the human scourge. <.<
You can try hiding in the closet. My closet doesn't have any people in it. Just clothes and rat poison.
Mmm, tasty rat poison that makes the pain go away . . .

In Soviet Russia, outdoors enjoys YOU!

Aside from that lame joke, I agree - people suck. Nature is more fun; too bad wherever you go nowadays you cannot avoid the human scourge. <.<

And most "nature" you find is artificial nature created by man for asthetics.

Or by you telling us you're an "Oakland area" student. :D

Well, you know what city I live in. From that, there's about three High Schools I could be in, each with 2.5k students in each one. Of course, if you dig my photos up from that old photo thread, you know what I look like and could possibly find me in that mess.

Erm, who pays taxes to actually sustain the government? :rolleyes: ;)

Yeah, but that's not the point.

Outdoors I enjoy. People I don't.

Then I guess a forum is the place to be. People start annoying you, simply log off and poof! the annoyance has been removed. :)

Now if you are only 13 I don't see why anyone would want you harm. Anyone who would disagree with you so vehemently would see you are just a kid. Somehow I doubt that the crazy would sentence you to death for disagreeing with him/her politically. Probably just kidnap you and try to convert you. :p

If you feel insulted by the "kid" thing, sorry, I'm just saying. :)

That sounds very rape-ish, though.
And now, after having watched Alice, I know I'm going to have dreams about the Russian Countryside becoming alive and chasing after preteen girls.
You and Svankmejer, always fucking with my head.
In Soviet Russia, preteen girl chases YOU! (no joke there)

You can try hiding in the closet. My closet doesn't have any people in it. Just clothes and rat poison.
Mmm, tasty rat poison that makes the pain go away . . .
Got any mothballs to go along with that rat poison? :)

PS: What/who is Svankmejer btw?

Yeah, but that's not the point.

Actually it is, We pay for the government through our taxes, we elect the people to government position. Everyone in government is held accountable by the people, so in a sense we control the government, so no, they can't "just look at our records".

Sorry, that example got busted.

13, 14 in a few weeks.

:rolleyes: At least make it hard for them! You've already announced your school, age, marital status of your parents, and the protections on your computer. Even someone only moderately talented can find you now.

Well, you know what city I live in. From that, there's about three High Schools I could be in, each with 2.5k students in each one. Of course, if you dig my photos up from that old photo thread, you know what I look like and could possibly find me in that mess.
We know who you are little one. You cannot hide. >.>

Actually it is, We pay for the government through our taxes, we elect the people to government position. Everyone in government is held accountable by the people, so in a sense we control the government, so no, they can't "just look at our records".

Sorry, that example got busted.
Precisement. The government is supposedly comprised of representatives who act as caretakers of our "property," so to speak. They are our lackeys, and not vice-versa. That in reality the opposite happens is irrelevant. :p

:rolleyes: At least make it hard for them! You've already announced your school, age, marital status of your parents, and the protections on your computer. Even someone only moderately talented can find you now.

Actually, I gave my city. Never gave my school. And there's plenty of divorcee's here in California. And how does listing the protections on my computer lead to being found?

Actually, I gave my city. Never gave my school. And there's plenty of divorcee's here in California. And how does listing the protections on my computer lead to being found?
Didn't you mention you're an emo too? That narrows things down considerably.

Didn't you mention you're an emo too? That narrows things done considerably.

I'm no longer emo. I dropped that long ago. And believe me, it does NOT narrow it down. The smell of emo is strong in the air at my school.

Explain, calmly, that you're paying good money so we'll target him. ;) :p

Wait until the next time your step-dad asks for your help.

THEN make him admit you know about computers!
Withhold the help if you have to.

This does assume you're strong-headed and stubborn enough to endure whatever counter-blackmail he comes up with.

Well, you know what city I live in. From that, there's about three High Schools I could be in, each with 2.5k students in each one. Of course, if you dig my photos up from that old photo thread, you know what I look like and could possibly find me in that mess.

Unlikely, but likelier than someone finding all that out on your computer. The point is, if you post a picture here, then your age in another thread, then your town, etc etc etc, someone might be able to put it all together and find you.

In Soviet Russia, preteen girl chases YOU! (no joke there)
*screams and retreats further into the back of the closet*
Got any mothballs to go along with that rat poison? :)
Mothballs get stuck in the throat, but Rat Poison goes down smooth and easy.
PS: What/who is Svankmejer btw?
Creepy Guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_%C5%A0vankmajer) obsessed with teeth, sex and stop-motion animation. The basic rule to his movies is: if it exists, it can, and probably will, come to life, and will do so in the most disturbing way possible.

According to my step-dad, whom I really am having a love-hate relationship with right now, I can get killed on NSG. How? According to him, people are right now as I type this message hacking into my computer, for no good reason. They then will decide, for the hell of it, to monitor what I do on my computer. They will see me posting political, moral, and religiousopinions on here that they don't agree with, then go through the trouble of tracking me down, coming to my school or house, and kill me. When I asked my step-dad where else I was supposed to do what I love, he told me anywhere else besides on the computer. I asked him where that was supposed to be. He said school. Now then, you may or may not know how much the average Californian High Schooler knows about politics. To put it simply, all they know about politics is what they hear from their parents or from the teachers. They will stick to an opinion just because it was the first they heard, and no matter how much evidence to the contrary they will stick to it. Would you enjoy debating with someone like that? And besides that no one would even want to debate with me because they don't care about politics, religion, or morals. Then when I told him I had protection against hackers(I have about five non-commercial proxies running in the background [We all know non-commercial proxies do a hell of a lot of a better job than commercial ones]). He said that I don't know anything about computers. However, whenever he needs help with computers, he asks me. So yeah... Tell me what you think.


Woah....Its like my life cloned.

But i live in SC, so people here don't know shiiiiit.

According to my step-dad, whom I really am having a love-hate relationship with right now, I can get killed on NSG. How? According to him, people are right now as I type this message hacking into my computer, for no good reason. They then will decide, for the hell of it, to monitor what I do on my computer. They will see me posting political, moral, and religiousopinions on here that they don't agree with, then go through the trouble of tracking me down, coming to my school or house, and kill me.

It sounds like he needs valium - STAT!

To put it simply, all they know about politics is what they hear from their parents or from the teachers. They will stick to an opinion just because it was the first they heard, and no matter how much evidence to the contrary they will stick to it. Would you enjoy debating with someone like that?

1. He's a moron.
2. What you've just described above is mostly what you'll find on NS General.

1. He's a moron.
2. What you've just described above is mostly what you'll find on NS General.

Yeah, but at least the people on here actually debate their position instead of just say over and over again that they're right.