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A Question For The Bri'ish.

Posi
21-09-2006, 06:47
If this is a muffin?
http://http://www.ukseikatsu.co.uk/Muffin2.jpg
What do you call this?
http://www.angelsbakery.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/Bran%20&%20Raisins%20Muffin.jpg
Kanabia
21-09-2006, 06:49
That's indeed a muffin.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
21-09-2006, 07:12
If this is a muffin?
http://http://www.ukseikatsu.co.uk/Muffin2.jpg
Actually, that link, by all appearances, is a document detailing specifications for HTTP, or some such bullshit. Not very much like a muffin at all.
Soheran
21-09-2006, 07:15
Actually, that link, by all appearances, is a document detailing specifications for HTTP, or some such bullshit. Not very much like a muffin at all.

Get rid of the first http://.

Though thinking it over, you probably realized that already.
Fishcakia
21-09-2006, 07:18
Hmm, now that you look at it, the first link may very well represent a space ship. or a bird for all i care.

I'm quite sure about the second link though. That's a muffin hobo.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
21-09-2006, 07:18
Get rid of the first http://.

Though thinking it over, you probably realized that already.
Shush you.
L-rouge
21-09-2006, 08:18
The first is indeed a muffin.
The second... A bran and raisin muffin? or maybe just a cake?
Kanabia
21-09-2006, 08:21
Oh, I see, there's another pic there now.

The first is an "english muffin" and not really like normal muffins.

The second is what most people here think of when you say "muffin".
Yootopia
21-09-2006, 09:01
The first - I'd call that a breakfast muffin, although I doubt most people would - they're not very common here.

The second - That's what's generally termed a muffin, yeah.
Vorlich
21-09-2006, 09:15
They are both muffins.

i think we ran out of names.

the first one is more a breakfast thing that is delish with poached egg. and lots of pepper.

i thought the chocolate sponge was an american thing which they happen to call muffin.
Pablicosta
21-09-2006, 09:35
I am the British!

I'd say, both muffins. If I say 'Breakfast Muffin' on a menu I'd think of one of those things.
The second one is officially named 'Mmmmmmhmmmmhmhhmm', or atleast it is now.
Muffins and more muffins. Scrumptious.
Jimusopolis
21-09-2006, 10:15
Insert obligatory 'muff' joke here.
Slartiblartfast
21-09-2006, 10:17
In our house the second one would be called a cake. Anywhere slightly fancier than our house (and that is most places) would call it a muffin
Pablicosta
21-09-2006, 10:36
I allways thought of a muffin being type of cake? The cake muffin that is. Not the breakfast muffin. God no.
Rotovia-
21-09-2006, 10:50
Actually, that link, by all appearances, is a document detailing specifications for HTTP, or some such bullshit. Not very much like a muffin at all.

FIDDLES! I missed your inappropraite fondeling of my genitals!
Kradlumania
21-09-2006, 11:03
The first - I'd call that a breakfast muffin, although I doubt most people would - they're not very common here.


Not very common, if you don't go into bakeries or supermarkets. If you do go into bakeries and supermarkets then you'll find they are very common.
Peepelonia
21-09-2006, 12:18
Is it an American that asked the original question? I only ask because surly if you go to MAcy D's and ask for an egg MacMuffin, you don't get a cake with a fried egg in it do you!
Vacuumhead
21-09-2006, 12:50
The first is a muffin. The second is called an American muffin in shops over here, although I just call them cakes.
Greyenivol Colony
21-09-2006, 13:59
I call the latter a muffin, although I would also accept the word 'bun'.

As for the first, I've never seen one of those before. I'd call it a goerkek.
Peepelonia
21-09-2006, 14:02
Heheh I was just thinking, we(the English) are known for being uptight, and represed huh!?! I was just wondering then why two of our fave brekkie snacks are named after umm errr rude persuits?

I talk of the Muffin(as in; should muffin the mule be illegal? - think about it) and the Crumpet!:eek:
Smunkeeville
21-09-2006, 14:07
since the British-ish type people are hanging around...

if a bicci is a biscuit and a biscuit is a cookie, what do you call actual biscuits?

also, what the hell is a lorry?

my daughter's puzzle book (the latest one) has her looking for lorries (is that the plural?) in a picture, but we don't know what they are.
Greyenivol Colony
21-09-2006, 14:08
Heheh I was just thinking, we(the English) are known for being uptight, and represed huh!?! I was just wondering then why two of our fave brekkie snacks are named after umm errr rude persuits?

I talk of the Muffin(as in; should muffin the mule be illegal? - think about it) and the Crumpet!:eek:

Actually, the rude things were named after the breakfast foods.

Just like how Brazil was named after the nut and not vica versa.
Peepelonia
21-09-2006, 14:09
since the British-ish type people are hanging around...

if a bicci is a biscuit and a biscuit is a cookie, what do you call actual biscuits?

also, what the hell is a lorry?

my daughter's puzzle book (the latest one) has her looking for lorries (is that the plural?) in a picture, but we don't know what they are.

Heheh a Bicci is a buscit, a cookie is atype of bicci. A Lorry(lorries - plural) is a Lorry, you know like a truck for taking goods to shops ect... but bigger, as in that great Lorry film Convoy!
Greyenivol Colony
21-09-2006, 14:10
since the British-ish type people are hanging around...

if a bicci is a biscuit and a biscuit is a cookie, what do you call actual biscuits?

also, what the hell is a lorry?

my daughter's puzzle book (the latest one) has her looking for lorries (is that the plural?) in a picture, but we don't know what they are.

What do you mean by biscuit? If its the thing you dunk in your tea (including rich tea, digestive, shortbread, ginger, etc.), then its a biscuit, most people will call a chocolate chip cookie a cookie because that's only fair with American inventions.

A lorry is a truck.
Smunkeeville
21-09-2006, 14:13
Heheh a Bicci is a buscit, a cookie is atype of bicci. A Lorry(lorries - plural) is a Lorry, you know like a truck for taking goods to shops ect... but bigger, as in that great Lorry film Convoy!

oh, so cookies are types of biscuits?!

when I am a talking about biscuits, I mean these. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Runny_hunny.jpg/428px-Runny_hunny.jpg)

also, a lorry is like one of these (http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:zge1Ki5oMnJkNM:http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/lw/cmvlaw/registration/Image21.jpg)?

we were supposed to find 12 of them so we thought we will just count groups and whatever there are 12 of must be it, but there were 12 of three different things (does that make sense?)
Call to power
21-09-2006, 14:13
I talk of the Muffin(as in; should muffin the mule be illegal? - think about it) and the Crumpet!:eek:

spotted dick!
Call to power
21-09-2006, 14:16
when I am a talking about biscuits, I mean these. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Runny_hunny.jpg/428px-Runny_hunny.jpg)

I think you mean a scone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scone_%28bread%29)
NERVUN
21-09-2006, 14:17
also, a lorry is like one of these (http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:zge1Ki5oMnJkNM:http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/lw/cmvlaw/registration/Image21.jpg)?

we were supposed to find 12 of them so we thought we will just count groups and whatever there are 12 of must be it, but there were 12 of three different things (does that make sense?)
I thought in the UK lorries are supposed to be smaller, like U-Haul trucks not semis.
Peepelonia
21-09-2006, 14:19
oh, so cookies are types of biscuits?!

when I am a talking about biscuits, I mean these. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Runny_hunny.jpg/428px-Runny_hunny.jpg)

also, a lorry is like one of these (http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:zge1Ki5oMnJkNM:http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/lw/cmvlaw/registration/Image21.jpg)?

we were supposed to find 12 of them so we thought we will just count groups and whatever there are 12 of must be it, but there were 12 of three different things (does that make sense?)


Hehe that's not a bicci that's a Scone. That is indeed a lorry, yep the whole 12 thing makes sense. Try saying red lorry yellow lorry 12 times fadt then!
Peepelonia
21-09-2006, 14:19
spotted dick!

Exactly! Represed my arse!
Smunkeeville
21-09-2006, 14:22
I think you mean a scone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scone_%28bread%29)

over here scones are sweet, where biscuits (http://www.houseofcraig.net/images/bizkits3.jpg)are not, but they are sometimes the same shape.
Peepelonia
21-09-2006, 14:24
over here scones are sweet, where biscuits are not, but they are sometimes the same shape.

A bicci that's not sweet? it don't compute......?!?!?:confused:
Smunkeeville
21-09-2006, 14:27
A bicci that's not sweet? it don't compute......?!?!?:confused:

yeah? well it was confusing to me when a friend on another forum was asking me for a recipe for gluten free biscuits with chocolate in them.
Call to power
21-09-2006, 14:28
over here scones are sweet, where biscuits (http://www.houseofcraig.net/images/bizkits3.jpg)are not, but they are sometimes the same shape.

The scone closely resembles an North American biscuit (many recipes are, in fact, identical) — itself not to be confused with the Commonwealth biscuit, which equates to what North Americans call a "cookie". In the United States, there is a growing tendency to refer to sweet variations as "scones" (perhaps under influence from espresso bars, where they are popular fare), while savoury ones are known as "biscuits"; in Canada, both tend to be called "biscuits" or "tea biscuits".

I once (well okay 3 times) went to KFC in America I was completely baffled by the adding of biscuits to the menu and was further baffled by strange objects located near my meal I took a bite out of one and felt that perhaps they aren’t meant for eating:D
Peepelonia
21-09-2006, 14:31
I once (well okay 3 times) went to KFC in America I was completely baffled by the adding of biscuits to the menu and was further baffled by strange objects located near my meal I took a bite out of one and felt that perhaps they aren’t meant for eating:D


Heheh and that clears up the little mystery of when I was reading a Joe R Lansdale book the other week and in one scene the main charector is sitting in an old black womans house eating biscuits and gravy!
Smunkeeville
21-09-2006, 14:31
I once (well okay 3 times) went to KFC in America I was completely baffled by the adding of biscuits to the menu and was further baffled by strange objects located near my meal I took a bite out of one and felt that perhaps they aren’t meant for eating:D

yeah, KFC sucks at biscuits. (and chicken, you should have mine ;))
Smunkeeville
21-09-2006, 14:33
Heheh and that clears up the little mystery of when I was reading a Joe R Lansdale book the other week and in one scene the main charector is sitting in an old black womans house eating biscuits and gravy!

oh, man I miss biscuits and gravy....so good.

although it had to be buttermilk biscuits and cream gravy (http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:R9dUw7a-farbAM:http://www.sptsb.com/EdgeBGP.jpg) or it was just terrible.
Call to power
21-09-2006, 14:34
Heheh and that clears up the little mystery of when I was reading a Joe R Lansdale book the other week and in one scene the main charector is sitting in an old black womans house eating biscuits and gravy!

does leave the question though: scones and gravy WTF?!
NERVUN
21-09-2006, 14:35
Heheh and that clears up the little mystery of when I was reading a Joe R Lansdale book the other week and in one scene the main charector is sitting in an old black womans house eating biscuits and gravy!
My wife spent some time in the UK before coming to study in the US so she picked up a lot of British English, and I managed to confuse her the same way when I asked her if she would like biscuits for breakfast the next morning. She thought I wanted to feed her chocolate chip cookies at 7 am.
NERVUN
21-09-2006, 14:36
does leave the question though: scones and gravy WTF?!
*lol* Try it (if you're ever in the US), it's one of the best breakfasts out there.
Peepelonia
21-09-2006, 14:38
does leave the question though: scones and gravy WTF?!

well I don't know you can have herby scones, or cheese scones, you can have cobbler which is bascialy minced meat and veggies in gravy with scones on top. It soulds good to me. However that buttermilk bicci and cream gravey did look like puke!
Smunkeeville
21-09-2006, 14:43
well I don't know you can have herby scones, or cheese scones, you can have cobbler which is bascialy minced meat and veggies in gravy with scones on top. It soulds good to me. However that buttermilk bicci and cream gravey did look like puke!

a lot of American food looks disgusting, but it's really quite good.

for you guys....

HOMEMADE BUTTERMILK BISCUITS

2 c. sifted flour (bread flour is best)
3 tsp. baking powder
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. baking soda
1/2 tsp. sugar
1/3 c. Crisco
1 c. buttermilk

Sift together dry ingredients. Cut in the shortening with a fork or pastry blender, it will be coarse crumbs. Add buttermilk all at once and stir until the dough follows the fork around the bowl. Turn out and knead only 5 to 6 times. (Too much handling makes them tough.) Roll to about 1/2 inch thick. Cut with round cookie cutter or glass (cup) dipped in flour. Place in greased pan. Brush gently with melted butter. Bake at 375 to 400 degrees for 10 to 12 minutes. When baked, brush again with melted butter.







CREAM (MILK) GRAVY

1/4 cup pan drippings (I like to use sausage grease, but bacon grease will do)
1/4 cup flour
2 cups milk
1/2 teaspoon salt, or to taste
1/4 teaspoon pepper, or to taste

In the pan which the meat was cooked, add 1/4 cup flour to the 1/4 cup drippings already in the pan. Cook and stir over medium heat for 5 to 10 minutes or until mixture starts to brown. Add the salt and pepper then slowly add the milk, stirring constantly.

Continue cooking until gravy boils and thickens. If gravy is too thick, add a little milk. Adjust seasonings to taste.
Rambhutan
21-09-2006, 15:17
a lot of American food looks disgusting, but it's really quite good.

for you guys....

HOMEMADE BUTTERMILK BISCUITS

2 c. sifted flour (bread flour is best)
3 tsp. baking powder
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. baking soda
1/2 tsp. sugar
1/3 c. Crisco
1 c. buttermilk




This looks very similar to Irish soda bread, although I am not sure what Crisco is?
Smunkeeville
21-09-2006, 15:19
This looks very similat to Irish soda bread, although I am not sure what Crisco is?

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/04.03.03/gifs/crisco-0314.jpg

we use it in place of lard (animal fat) because we pretend it's healthier.
Deep Kimchi
21-09-2006, 15:27
http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/04.03.03/gifs/crisco-0314.jpg

we use it in place of lard (animal fat) because we pretend it's healthier.

Good leaf lard is difficult to find nowadays. And is much better for pie crusts than Crisco.
Carisbrooke
21-09-2006, 16:07
The rather curious habit of American types calling stuff the wrong name continues....

Biscuits in the UK are all those things that you call cookies, including the thing that we call cookies which are usually chocolate chips cookies. We have all manner of biscuits and they are excellent things.

Biscuits in the US seem to be some form of scone and are not especially nice. They don't seem to be as nice as our scones...Mmmm I like a nice fresh baked fruit scone in a cream tea...

Oh and a cream tea is NOT a drink

and tea bags should NOT come on a string and be in the cup...ewwwwww

A muffin is a small round flat thing that is mainly served at breakfast and is more like a crumpet than the American muffins which we also have here...oddly enough named muffins too. I had a rather nice banoffee muffin yesterday with my cappuccino.

American bacon is curious too...I found it to be unlike anything that we have here, and more like thin strips of streaky bacon.
Zhidkoye Solntsye
21-09-2006, 16:13
I'm an American who's lived in England for 12 years, which I guess means I should have all the answers, but actually I just make it up as I go along. Both those are muffins, but if you say 'muffin' I and everyone I know would think of the American kind. Scones, as far I know, are uniquely the kind of soft, sweetish things you put butter and jam on (or better, clotted cream and jam). Biscuits can be sweet, but they tend to be small and hardish, and you wouldn't generally call a soft American style cookie a biscuit. Actually, I think the word cookie may be in the process of taking over. A biscuit can sometimes refer to stuff an American might call a cracker.
Dinaverg
21-09-2006, 16:21
I once (well okay 3 times) went to KFC in America I was completely baffled by the adding of biscuits to the menu and was further baffled by strange objects located near my meal I took a bite out of one and felt that perhaps they aren’t meant for eating:D

What the hell kind of KFC did you go to? Did you put the honey on it?