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10 Books you should read before you die?

Emporer Pudu
21-09-2006, 01:08
I've seen this on other websites, and I want to know what NS general considers to be important reading.

Here are my ten entieries, in no particular order;

1st - The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy
2nd - Watership Down
3rd - 1984
4th - The Foundation Trilogy
5th - Farenheit 451
6th - Brave New World
7th - The Screwtape Letters
8th - The Lord of the Rings
9th - Hobbit
10th - Lord of the Flies


And there you go, now how about yours?
Keruvalia
21-09-2006, 01:10
Who needs to read when one has interweb pr0n?
Holyawesomeness
21-09-2006, 01:13
Reading is for the literate.:p
The Black Forrest
21-09-2006, 01:16
Reading is for the literate.:p

Who typed this for you? ;)
The Emperor Fenix
21-09-2006, 01:17
On the subject of reading...

http://www.penguin.co.uk/static/cs/uk/0/articles/greatideas/
http://www.penguin.co.uk/static/cs/uk/0/articles/greatideas_2/index.html
http://www.hutch.demon.co.uk/prom/gm.htm

Come back to me when you finished those.
Utracia
21-09-2006, 01:19
I've read 2, 3 and 10 and I've seen the movie trilogy Lord of the Rings which for me counts as the same thing. Really now that list doesn't include any Shakespeare which has to be a shame for many. Catcher in the Rye is a must even if I think the kid is a jackass. Utopia was also good.

And for me if you want to read something casual, anything by David Weber is a good bet. :)
Free shepmagans
21-09-2006, 01:23
Things I want to read?

1. Bible (end to end)
2. communist manifesto
3. mein kampf
4. 1984
5. a handmaid's tale
6. Qoran (end to end)
7. The Screwtape Letters
8. animal farm
9. Whatever I havn't read by H.P. Lovecraft
10. *No clue*
Call to power
21-09-2006, 01:25
I'll tell you when I've read 10 books…
Dodudodu
21-09-2006, 01:28
I've seen this on other websites, and I want to know what NS general considers to be important reading.

Here are my ten entieries, in no particular order;

1st - The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy
2nd - Watership Down
3rd - 1984
4th - The Foundation Trilogy
5th - Farenheit 451
6th - Brave New World
7th - The Screwtape Letters
8th - The Lord of the Rings
9th - Hobbit
10th - Lord of the Flies


And there you go, now how about yours?

1- Very funny, and agree, but don't think its 1.
2-Never read.
3- Rereading, again, agree.
4- Never Read
5- DIsagree, didn't like the book, though the concept was cool.
6- I think I've read it, but don't remember...whats it about?
7-Also never read.
8-Great story, not essential to read.
9-See above.
10-Read a long time ago. Not bad, so I can't disagree.

My top 3 would go something like
1. 1984
2.Anthem
3.Animal Farm

I don't think these are the best books ever. I just think they're books you need to read.
Andaluciae
21-09-2006, 01:29
I think you've got more than ten books on that list. LOTR and the Foundation Trilogy are definitely more than one book. And the hitchhikers guide, depending on how you are referring to it, could be multiple books or just one.
Strummervile
21-09-2006, 01:32
1.The lord of the rings
2. The dark tower series
3. 1984
4. Hucklebery Finn
5. The Hobbit
6. Wheel of Time
7. Camulond Chronicles
8. Jurrasic park
9. Andromeda strain
10. The Congo
Pyotr
21-09-2006, 01:34
things I wanna read:

1.) Tao Te Ching
2.) Crime and Punishment By Fyodor Dostoevsky
3.) The analects(confucious)
4.) The Qur'an
5.) Plato's Republic
6.) War and Peace By Leo Tolstoy
7.) The Divine Comedy By Dante Alighieri
8.) Leviathan By Thomas Hobbes
9.) Ulysses By James Joyce
20.) Finnigan's wake By James Joyce
Infinite Revolution
21-09-2006, 02:17
I've read 2, 3 and 10 and I've seen the movie trilogy Lord of the Rings which for me counts as the same thing. Really now that list doesn't include any Shakespeare which has to be a shame for many. Catcher in the Rye is a must even if I think the kid is a jackass. Utopia was also good.

And for me if you want to read something casual, anything by David Weber is a good bet. :)

i never really understood 'catcher in the rye'. it seemed completely pointless to me, no particular plot, no message, no agenda, maybe that's the point but it just fell flat for me. the main character was well developed tho.

i don't know about a top ten but 'tokyo doesn't love us anymore' is very good. pretty much anything by douglas adams needs a mention. 'brave new world' is probably the best distopian fiction i've read, at least the concept of it anyway. 'dune' is also a classic. i don't really like ranking things cuz i can never decide and i never have an absolute favourite.
Infinite Revolution
21-09-2006, 02:19
things I wanna read:

1.) Tao Te Ching
2.) Crime and Punishment By Fyodor Dostoevsky
3.) The analects(confucious)
4.) The Qur'an
5.) Plato's Republic
6.) War and Peace By Leo Tolstoy
7.) The Divine Comedy By Dante Alighieri
8.) Leviathan By Thomas Hobbes
9.) Ulysses By James Joyce
20.) Finnigan's wake By James Joyce

you gunna spend the rest of your life turning pages then? war and peace alone is quite an undertaking
Teh_pantless_hero
21-09-2006, 02:21
I've probably only ever read 10 separate books but...

Starship Troopers.
Pyotr
21-09-2006, 02:22
you gunna spend the rest of your life turning pages then? war and peace alone is quite an undertaking

I know, I've heard War and Peace reaches lethal force if dropped from over 6 feet.

and you have to read Ulysses like 3 times just to understand what the hell is going on. Damn stream of consciousness.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
21-09-2006, 02:26
Sometimes I think about reading "Bartleby the Scrivener", but, after awhile I always decide that I prefer not to.
Emporer Pudu
21-09-2006, 02:38
I think you've got more than ten books on that list. LOTR and the Foundation Trilogy are definitely more than one book. And the hitchhikers guide, depending on how you are referring to it, could be multiple books or just one.

Yeah, but I have giant one-volume copies, so... your face.

Also, Anthem sounds amazing but I've never read it and Animal Farm should be on my list.

I also intend to read The Art of War, and I've heard speaking about Plato's Republic and mean to look at Divine Comedy.

I also own Levithan, but don't think it should be on the list. The Prince is in that same category.
Rameria
21-09-2006, 02:41
In no particular order, my list at the moment (if you asked me again in a week's time it'd probably be completely different) is:

1. Good Omens by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman
2. A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking
3. Le Petit Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
4. Plato's Republic
5. I'm a Stranger Here Myself by Bill Bryson
6. Wild Swans by Jung Chang
7. On The Road by Jack Kerouac
8. The Codebreakers by David Kahn
9. The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho
10. The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith
Pledgeria
21-09-2006, 02:47
10. Robert Kiyosaki, Rich Dad, Poor Dad
9. Robert Heinlein, For Us, the Living
8. Mary Doria Russell, The Sparrow
7. Virgil, The Aeneid
6. Sophocles, Oedipus Rex
5. Robert Jordan, Eye of the World
4. Richard Wright, Native Son
3. William Shakespeare, Hamlet
2. George Orwell, 1984
1. William Faulkner, The Sound and the Fury
Smunkee
21-09-2006, 03:14
it's hard to put them in order of importance, you know? so here they are in somewhat random-ish order

1 The Bible
the whole thing, cover to cover, actually studying it though, not zoning out during the "begats" and dreaming about bagels and fruit.


2 1984
a cautionary tale that has made me tons more paranoid ever since I read it when I was 7

3 Atlas Shrugged
yeah, I know I am going to get crap for this one, but really? everyone should read it, whether you agree with it or not.

4 The feeling good book
yeah, it's a self help book, but it really did change my life.

5 The Screwtape Letters
that book seriously screwed me up, and has changed my entire outlook on my life in general

6 To Kill a Mocking Bird
seriously a great classic, I longed to have a father like Atticus.

7 Oliver Twist
usually I don't like Dickens, but this was awesome, and terrible and awesome all over again

8 Brave New World
almost messed me up as much as 1984

9 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
hilarious, and to the point it's one of my all time favorite books, if not just for knowing the things I need to know to make friends with the geeks who know what I am talking about.

10 A Wrinkle in Time
yeah, I know, it's not a "great book" like some of the others, but it's just so good, so very good, it taught me a lot about what family should be, and is probably the reason that someone as screwed up as me can provide that for my kids.


I could seriously go on for hours listing hundreds of books that I think everyone should read, not that you guys would, but hey at least I can assign them to my kids in homeschool. ;)
Teh_pantless_hero
21-09-2006, 03:15
I firmly and stubbornly disagree with any recommendation of any work of Faulkner.
Pledgeria
21-09-2006, 03:21
3 Atlas Shrugged
yeah, I know I am going to get crap for this one, but really? everyone should read it, whether you agree with it or not.
But Anthem is essentially the same book, just MUCH shorter. :D
Smunkee
21-09-2006, 03:22
But Anthem is essentially the same book, just MUCH shorter. :D

is not!:mad: :p
Posi
21-09-2006, 03:25
it's hard to put them in order of importance, you know? so here they are in somewhat random-ish order

1 The Bible
the whole thing, cover to cover, actually studying it though, not zoning out during the "begats" and dreaming about bagels and fruit.


2 1984
a cautionary tale that has made me tons more paranoid ever since I read it when I was 7

3 Atlas Shrugged
yeah, I know I am going to get crap for this one, but really? everyone should read it, whether you agree with it or not.

4 The feeling good book
yeah, it's a self help book, but it really did change my life.

5 The Screwtape Letters
that book seriously screwed me up, and has changed my entire outlook on my life in general

6 To Kill a Mocking Bird
seriously a great classic, I longed to have a father like Atticus.

7 Oliver Twist
usually I don't like Dickens, but this was awesome, and terrible and awesome all over again

8 Brave New World
almost messed me up as much as 1984

9 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
hilarious, and to the point it's one of my all time favorite books, if not just for knowing the things I need to know to make friends with the geeks who know what I am talking about.

10 A Wrinkle in Time
yeah, I know, it's not a "great book" like some of the others, but it's just so good, so very good, it taught me a lot about what family should be, and is probably the reason that someone as screwed up as me can provide that for my kids.


I could seriously go on for hours listing hundreds of books that I think everyone should read, not that you guys would, but hey at least I can assign them to my kids in homeschool. ;)
I think you are too much of a newb to tell anyone here what to do. Go heirarcy!
Smunkee
21-09-2006, 03:30
I think you are too much of a newb to tell anyone here what to do. Go heirarcy!

uh.....yeah. :D
Zandoman
21-09-2006, 03:34
only one...

http://www.alphabetofmanliness.com/
Andaluciae
21-09-2006, 03:35
1.) Calvin and Hobbes: The Complete Calvin and Hobbes Three Volume Edition
2.) Bucky Katt's Big Book of Fun
3.) Calvin and Hobbes: The Lazy Sunday Book
4.) Action Hero: The Life and Times of Doonesbury's Uncle Duke
5.) Anything by Charles Schultz
6.) Calvin and Hobbes: Revenge of the Baby Sat
7.) Opus: 25 Years of his Sunday Best
8.) The Complete Far Side: 1980-1994


The truth of the matter is that the rankings of these books are pretty arbitrary. They've all played some vital role in keeping me going at some point or another.

Although, To Kill a Mockingbird has to be rated as one of my favorite novel books of all time.
Pledgeria
21-09-2006, 03:36
is not!:mad: :p

Is so. :p
Pledgeria
21-09-2006, 03:39
I firmly and stubbornly disagree with any recommendation of any work of Faulkner.

Well, this one's hard to understand, but I stand by it as a must-read. :-)
Ravea
21-09-2006, 03:57
I've been hooked on Bram Stoker's Dracula for the past two days or so. Good book, that is.
Pyotr
21-09-2006, 03:59
I've been hooked on Bram Stoker's Dracula for the past two days or so. Good book, that is.

Yes it is, its too bad its been ripped off so much.

Did Van Helsing disappoint you?;) most common complaint I hear about that book
Apollynia
21-09-2006, 04:13
These are the books that I think everyone should read before they die:

10. "A Critique of Pure Reason" by Immanuel Kant.
9. "The Heart of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad.
8. "The Awakening" by Kate Chopin.
7. "The Metamorphosis" by Franz Kafka.
6. "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man" by James Joyce.
5. "The Shock of the New" by Robert Hughes.
4. "(On) The Birth of Tragedy" by Friederich Neitzsche.
3. "The Collected Works of T.S. Eliot"
2. "The Stranger" by Albert Camus.
1. "Ulysses" by James Joyce.

These are other works I consider important, but slightly less so in contrast to the Great Classics; mostly modern works::

15. "Beloved" by Toni Morrison.
14. "The Greatest Works of Robert Frost."
13. "100 Years of Solitude" by Isabel Allende.
12. "Ender's Game" by Orson Scott Card.
11. "Glamorama" by Bret Easton Ellis.
10. "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" by Philip K. Dick.
9. "The Informers" by Bret Easton Ellis.
8. "The End of Faith" by Sam Harris.
7. "A Maze of Death" by Philip K. Dick.
6. "A Scanner Darkly" by Philip K. Dick.
5. "The Articles of Impeachment Against George W. Bush," by the Center for Constitutional Studies.
4. "Foe" by J.M. Coetzee.
3. "The Old Man and the Sea" by Ernest Hemingway.
2. "American Psycho" by Bret Easton Ellis.
1. "VALIS" by Philip K. Dick.

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Ravea
21-09-2006, 04:16
Yes it is, its too bad its been ripped off so much.

Did Van Helsing disappoint you?;) most common complaint I hear about that book

Heck no! I think the Original Helsing is the best of them all.
Andaluciae
21-09-2006, 04:19
I've been hooked on Bram Stoker's Dracula for the past two days or so. Good book, that is.

It had a solid week of my summer. I enjoyed reading it so very much, and not only that, but the book fit my mood at the moment exactly.
Bodies Without Organs
21-09-2006, 05:26
I've been hooked on Bram Stoker's Dracula for the past two days or so. Good book, that is.


Incredibly kack-handedly written, but a good book none the less.
Delator
21-09-2006, 05:47
9. Robert Heinlein, For Us, the Living

Good call...though if I was to pick only one Heinlein for such a list, it would probably be The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Teh_pantless_hero
21-09-2006, 06:00
Well, this one's hard to understand, but I stand by it as a must-read. :-)

Read it, hated it.
I hate Faulkner's style and could care less about his subject matter. His presentation is par.
Fishcakia
21-09-2006, 06:19
Most of Robert M Pirsigs books are "must-read". They are more like philosophy books though.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
21-09-2006, 07:10
Since I have no idea what you should be reading, this is just 10 books that I wish people would read before I have to tolerate their existence. A Summer Reading for living with the Fiddles, if you will:

1. Johnny Got His Gun, Dalton Trumbo
2. Either Anti-Christ, Neitzsche or Twilight of the Idols, Neitzsche. Depending on whether you're fonder of Jesus or Socrates
3. Beyond Good and Evil, Neitzsche
4. Catch 22, Joseph Heller
5. The Fountainhead, Ayn Rand
6. The Prince, Macchiavelli
7. The Old Testament, A Whole Shitload of Dead Jews
8. The Misfortunes of Virtue, deSade
9. The House of Cards, Michael Dobbs
10. Meditations on First Philosophy, Descartes

A bit of philosophy, a bit of politics, a bit of humor, a healthy amount of disgust for authority and conventional morality, and a just enough perversity to make it worth your time.
Dosuun
21-09-2006, 07:18
1. Red Fish Blue Fish
2. Everyone Poops
3. Star Trek V
4. If You Give a Mouse a Cookie
5. That purple crayon book
6. Star Wars
7-9. Lord of the Rings (the movies were better)
10. Harry Pot-head and the Magical Herb
Hiemria
21-09-2006, 07:27
I've seen this on other websites, and I want to know what NS general considers to be important reading.

Here are my ten entieries, in no particular order;

1st - The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy
2nd - Watership Down
3rd - 1984
4th - The Foundation Trilogy
5th - Farenheit 451
6th - Brave New World
7th - The Screwtape Letters
8th - The Lord of the Rings
9th - Hobbit
10th - Lord of the Flies


And there you go, now how about yours?

Pretty good list. I've read all of those but watership down. Yessssss.
Dissonant Cognition
21-09-2006, 07:29
The Butter Battle Book by Theodor Seuss Geisel
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein
Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Island by Aldous Huxley
Point Counter Point by Aldous Huxley
An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith
The Theory of Moral Sentiments by Adam Smith
The Catcher in the Rye by J. D. Salinger
One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest by Ken Kesey

edit: and Our Civil Life and Progress by Faith & Browne, a grade school textbook on the origins of government and the duties of a good citizen...published in 1949. Pure propaganda. Plus, the wonderful irony of the cover being colored bright red. I especially enjoy all the various pictures of monuments, everyday life, and other patriotic images sprinkled randomly throughout with captions like "for amber waves of grain," "above the fruited plain," and "God shed his grace on thee." If only my own godless commie social science textbooks could be so patriotic! :D
Zealiria
21-09-2006, 07:45
some not mentioned from the top of my head:

1. Naked Lunch by William Burroughs
2. The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath by HP Lovecraft
3. Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson

and if comic books count (and they should):
The Sandman by Neil Gaiman, The Watchmen by Alan Moore and Preacher by Garth Ennis
Palaios
21-09-2006, 09:51
These are the books that I think everyone should read before they die:

10. "A Critique of Pure Reason" by Immanuel Kant.
9. "The Heart of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad.
8. "The Awakening" by Kate Chopin.
7. "The Metamorphosis" by Franz Kafka.
6. "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man" by James Joyce.
5. "The Shock of the New" by Robert Hughes.
4. "(On) The Birth of Tragedy" by Friederich Neitzsche.
3. "The Collected Works of T.S. Eliot"
2. "The Stranger" by Albert Camus.
1. "Ulysses" by James Joyce.

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Well, I've read number 9 and 7.... 7 was good but 9 should so seriously not be on that list. I still do not see why people would want to read that book (sorry for anyone who really likes the book, but I know enough people who will back me up on this point). I did actually buy Glamorama recently so I'll be reading that soon

I can't think of a full top 10 at the moment but I would definitly put these two in there:

1. The Handmaids Tale by Margaret Atwood
2. 1984 by George Orwell
Pledgeria
21-09-2006, 10:07
These are the books that I think everyone should read before they die:

10. "A Critique of Pure Reason" by Immanuel Kant.
9. "The Heart of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad.
8. "The Awakening" by Kate Chopin.
7. "The Metamorphosis" by Franz Kafka.
6. "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man" by James Joyce.
5. "The Shock of the New" by Robert Hughes.
4. "(On) The Birth of Tragedy" by Friederich Neitzsche.
3. "The Collected Works of T.S. Eliot"
2. "The Stranger" by Albert Camus.
1. "Ulysses" by James Joyce.

Wow. Predominantly existentialist. How about some naturalism in the for a mix? ;)

Kidding aside, though, I wouldn't wish Ulysses on anyone. It's an awesome feat of authorship, yes, but I think the average person's head would explode after about ten pages. :D
Slartiblartfast
21-09-2006, 10:23
One I would add to any list - Wild Swans by Jung Chang. I thought I would hate this book (thing it was a 'chic' book) but it is an excellent read
Boonytopia
21-09-2006, 12:01
Catch-22 would be first book on my list.
BackwoodsSquatches
21-09-2006, 12:05
I've seen this on other websites, and I want to know what NS general considers to be important reading.

Here are my ten entieries, in no particular order;

1st - The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy
2nd - Watership Down
3rd - 1984
4th - The Foundation Trilogy
5th - Farenheit 451
6th - Brave New World
7th - The Screwtape Letters
8th - The Lord of the Rings
9th - Hobbit
10th - Lord of the Flies

1. Read it.
2.Not yet.
3.Read it.
4. Nope.
5.Read it.
6. read it.
7.nope.
8. Read em.
9. Read it.
10. Read it.

Looks like Im immortal until I read those ones.
BackwoodsSquatches
21-09-2006, 12:08
and Preacher by Garth Ennis


You are officially "Cool".

Tell your friends.
Peepelonia
21-09-2006, 12:13
Ahhhh man far too many to list, but I can at least name the best book I have read thus far, it has yet to be beaten.

Mary Shelly's Frankenstien. No really I mean it, go out and read it, READ IT NOW!
Zhidkoye Solntsye
21-09-2006, 12:32
Pretty surprised by the amount of agreement here...I guess we all just have seriously good taste.

These aren't really in order...

1. Godel, Escher, Bach - Douglas Hofstadter
2. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams (although actually the radio series is better, and came before the book anyway)
3. The Idiot - Fyodor Dostoevsky
4. Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoevsky
5. The Outsider (translated as the 'The Stranger' in America) - Albert Camus
6. Jude the Obscure - Thomas Hardy
7. Gormenghast - Mervyn Peake
8. Riddley Walker - Russel Hoban
9. Asterix the Gaul - Goscinny and Underzo
10. Good Omens - Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman

Other stuff I haven't read yet but am planning too - the rest of Dostoevsky, the Foundation books, George Orwell, Brave New World
Khadgar
21-09-2006, 12:37
1) Bible
2) Koran/Coran/Qu'Ran/however the hell you spell it
3) Torah
4) Platform Sutra of the Sixth Patriarch


Yeah that's pretty much all I can think of.
Rejistania
21-09-2006, 12:48
my ideas:

1: Andreas Eschbach, eine Billion Dollar/one trillion Dollars
2: George Orwell, 1984
3: Fahrenheit 451
4: Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy
5: Hawkings, a short history of time
6: Cory Doctorow, When Sysadmins ruled the earth
7: Le Petit Prince
8: Charles Stross, Accelerando
9: Wells, The Time Machine
10: Linus Torvalds, Just for Fun
Peepelonia
21-09-2006, 13:00
1) Bible
2) Koran/Coran/Qu'Ran/however the hell you spell it
3) Torah
4) Platform Sutra of the Sixth Patriarch


Yeah that's pretty much all I can think of.


Umm what about The Bagavahd Gita, and The Guru Granth Sahib, I also know of a quaint little thing called The Galdr Bok.
Andaluciae
21-09-2006, 13:20
1) Bible
2) Koran/Coran/Qu'Ran/however the hell you spell it
3) Torah
4) Platform Sutra of the Sixth Patriarch


Yeah that's pretty much all I can think of.

Isn't a goodly bit of the Torah in the Bible?
Akai Oni
21-09-2006, 13:34
Here's the twelve books I want to read before I die (in no particular order):

Crime and Punishment - Dostoyevsky
Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
War and Peace - Tolstoy
In Cold Blood - Truman Capote
The Power of One - Bryce Courtenay
The Illiad and Odyssey - Homer
Pilgrim's Progress -
The Communist Manifesto - Karl Marx
Republic - Plato
My Place - Sally Morgan
The True History of the Kelly Gang - Peter Carey
The Chant of Jimmy Blacksmith - Tom Keneally
Politeia utopia
21-09-2006, 13:47
It is hard to construct a decent all-category top ten, but I can name some titles I read and consider important … No particular order and I am probably omitting important titles as well…


Orwell: 1984 and Animal farm
Machiavelli: el-Principe and Discorsi (on the Republic)
Plato: Politeia
Rawls: A theory of justice
Nozick: Anarchy State and Utopia
Arendt: the Human condition (or other titles from Arendt)
Marx: communist manifesto
Politeia utopia
21-09-2006, 13:52
QUOTE=Andaluciae;11711737]Isn't a goodly bit of the Torah in the Bible?[/QUOTE]
Isn't a goodly bit of the Torah and the Bible in the Qur‘ân?
Dissonant Cognition
21-09-2006, 14:03
Isn't a goodly bit of the Torah in the Bible?

In fact, the entire Hebrew Bible is in the Christian Bible, except the average Christian refers to it as "the Old Testament" while refering to the (edit: Written) Torah as the books "Genesis," "Exodus," "Leviticus," "Numbers," and "Deuteronomy."
Khadgar
21-09-2006, 14:11
Umm what about The Bagavahd Gita, and The Guru Granth Sahib, I also know of a quaint little thing called The Galdr Bok.

I'll look into those too. At the moment the Platform Sutra melts my brain quite enough all by it's lonesome.
Peepelonia
21-09-2006, 14:16
I'll look into those too. At the moment the Platform Sutra melts my brain quite enough all by it's lonesome.


Fair doo's then, ohhh Good luck finding a copy of the Gadr Bok. I have just googled it and I don't mean the one by these chaps, Nathan J Johnson and Robert J Wallis.

The one I mean is a lot older that that one, I have a modernish copy of it if ya can't find it, perhaps I can electricise it for you.
Londim
21-09-2006, 14:50
1. Catch 22
2.1984
3. Brave New World
4. The Amulet of Samarkand
5. The Golems Eye
6. Ptolemys Gate
7. Northern Lights
8.The Subtle Knife
9. The Amber Spyglass
10. The Teenagers guide to Parents ( or something like that)

*4, 5 and 6 are the Bartimaues trilogy. A highly entertaining anf funny read.

** 7, 8 and 9 are from the His Dark Material Trilogy by Philip Pullman. I believe they are currently being turned into films.
Bookislvakia
21-09-2006, 14:57
Here's the twelve books I want to read before I die (in no particular order):
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Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
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It's SO not worth reading. I hated every God-cursed minute of it, and would rather put out 10 lit cigarettes in my eyes than read it again.
Bookislvakia
21-09-2006, 15:00
In fact, the entire Hebrew Bible is in the Christian Bible, except the average Christian refers to it as "the Old Testament" while refering to the (edit: Written) Torah as the books "Genesis," "Exodus," "Leviticus," "Numbers," and "Deuteronomy."

Of course, I think the best way to put it is:

Isn't a good bit of the Qur'an in the Bible, which borrowed heavily from the Torah?

In order of youngest to oldest makes most sense, to me.
Sarkhaan
21-09-2006, 16:53
1. The Bible (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/10)*
2. Paradise Lost (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/20)*
3. Othello (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1531)*
4. Ordinary People (http://www.amazon.com/Ordinary-People-Judith-Guest/dp/0140065172/sr=1-1/qid=1158853450/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4814711-2285618?ie=UTF8&s=books)
5. Marat/Sade (http://www.amazon.com/Persecution-Assassination-Jean-Paul-Performed-Direction/dp/1577662318/sr=1-1/qid=1158853471/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4814711-2285618?ie=UTF8&s=books)
6. Uncle Tom's Cabin (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/203)*
7. Mao II (http://www.amazon.com/Mao-II-Novel-Don-DeLillo/dp/0140152741/sr=1-1/qid=1158853557/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4814711-2285618?ie=UTF8&s=books)
8. http://www.amazon.com/1984-Erich-Fromm/dp/0451524934/sr=1-1/qid=1158853578/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4814711-2285618?ie=UTF8&s=books
9. Europe Central (http://www.amazon.com/Europe-Central-William-Vollmann/dp/B000HT2OZ8/sr=1-1/qid=1158853623/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4814711-2285618?ie=UTF8&s=books)
10. I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell (http://www.amazon.com/Hope-They-Serve-Beer-Hell/dp/0806527285/sr=1-1/qid=1158853662/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4814711-2285618?ie=UTF8&s=books) (what? Everyone needs a good laugh after a dense reading list)

Starred texts are available for free download through the Gutenberg Project. The rest link to Amazon.