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All those forced too a life of involuntary celibacy (will never have sex, for whatever the reason), congregate here! (church bells ring)

Wow... your poll has 4 options that all, generally, mean the same thing. Congratulations. ALSO, is there such a thing as what you're describing. I mean... really. There's always someone out there who wants to have sex with you. Isn't that true? I believe that even the ugliest person can find a mate.

Wow... your poll has 4 options that all, generally, mean the same thing. Congratulations. ALSO, is there such a thing as what you're describing. I mean... really. There's always someone out there who wants to have sex with you. Isn't that true? I believe that even the ugliest person can find a mate.
Maybe an ugly one, and who wants that? Sometimes nothing is better than something terrible.

I'm 22 years old and still a virgin... and I'm not exactly good looking either lol.

I'm 22 years old and still a virgin... and I'm not exactly good looking either lol.
He isn't kidding.

Wow... your poll has 4 options that all, generally, mean the same thing. Congratulations. ALSO, is there such a thing as what you're describing. I mean... really. There's always someone out there who wants to have sex with you. Isn't that true? I believe that even the ugliest person can find a mate.

Oh yes, this must be true.

A girl at work is hideous, smells funny, has a voice that sounds worse than nails on a chalk board, and I'm not even going to try and describe her personality. Yet somehow she has a kid....

I'm 22 years old and still a virgin... and I'm not exactly good looking either lol.

My point is... if you go your whole life without having sex, I can almost guarantee you it is because you didn't want to, or you never really tried to. People who want sex can get sex. There are even people in this world who PREFER their mates to be fat.

What's wrong with celibacy? I find it more than normal, and in fact even better. By giving myself to the teachings of the stoics, I have been able to avoid all the pleasures of the flesh and live a simple, modest life of peace. I believe that is much better than being a horny person always on the look out for someone else to fornicate with.

Oh yes, this must be true.

A girl at work is hideous, smells funny, has a voice that sounds worse than nails on a chalk board, and I'm not even going to try and describe her personality. Yet somehow she has a kid....

Alcohol, or an equally ugly guy without standards.

There are even people in this world who PREFER their mates to be fat.

Those people are ugly.
What's wrong with celibacy? I find it more than normal, and in fact even better. By giving myself to the teachings of the stoics, I have been able to avoid all the pleasures of the flesh and live a simple, modest life of peace. I believe that is much better than being a horny person always on the look out for someone else to fornicate with.Denial lol

My point is... if you go your whole life without having sex, I can almost guarantee you it is because you didn't want to, or you never really tried to. People who want sex can get sex. There are even people in this world who PREFER their mates to be fat.

I'm not fat, I'm just umm, rough.

What's wrong with celibacy? I find it more than normal, and in fact even better. By giving myself to the teachings of the stoics, I have been able to avoid all the pleasures of the flesh and live a simple, modest life of peace. I believe that is much better than being a horny person always on the look out for someone else to fornicate with.

As in, the stoicism-ideal of Ancient Rome? Cool. Not a choice I'd make, but cool.

Alcohol, or an equally ugly guy without standards.

Thats the only explanation I can come up with, but even then, how does that excuse her personality.

What's wrong with celibacy? I find it more than normal, and in fact even better. By giving myself to the teachings of the stoics, I have been able to avoid all the pleasures of the flesh and live a simple, modest life of peace. I believe that is much better than being a horny person always on the look out for someone else to fornicate with.

You remind me of Armenian Cheese, and someone else who I can't remember his name. They both made threads based on your findings, and "explaining" why we don't need sex. Somehow these are the only debates I actually debated in, and somehow, I was the only one who did little more than flame.

Not so long ago Armenian cheese changed his mind after finding these "pleasures of the flesh," and I don't know what happened to the other.

Thats the only explanation I can come up with, but even then, how does that excuse her personality.

What you're doing is like trying to understand the mind of a phsyco serial killer. Not possible to people on the outside.

I'm 18, I only got laid for the first time about a week ago. I don't normally try and pick up when I go to parties (I live on campus at a uni) and I'm not bad looking and I'm not deformed.

It doesn't live up to the expectations.

So if unvoluntary virgins come fourth, then who comes first, second and third?

Thanks. I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

Maybe an ugly one, and who wants that? Sometimes nothing is better than something terrible.That would make such a person a voluntary virgin, and thus unable to pick at least one of the options on the poll.

Thats the only explanation I can come up with, but even then, how does that excuse her personality.

chances are, she is a control freek and has a little pet man in the room, doing her every bidding. i'v seen it done, just the guy was doing it to my freind, thank God she is out of that, and without the kid.:)

I'm 18, I only got laid for the first time about a week ago. I don't normally try and pick up when I go to parties (I live on campus at a uni) and I'm not bad looking and I'm not deformed.

It doesn't live up to the expectations.You must not be doing it right...

Okay, so I posted in the "how often..." thread, but I wanted to post here too. I said there that being married... has its benefits. I stand a perfect 0% chance of remaining a virgin, either voluntarily or involuntarily since I'm not one. Anymore.

Until I got married, however, I was. And there's not only nothing wrong with not chasing around random partners to fornicate with, there's a lot right with keeping "clean" until being married. And for you people who think that is bizarre, I think you have no idea what you're dealing with... you may never... you may someday realise I'm right. I don't know. But don't look down on the ones who agree with me and either choose to remain celibate indefinitely or are just waiting to be married.

chances are, she is a control freek and has a little pet man in the room, doing her every bidding. i'v seen it done, just the guy was doing it to my freind, thank God she is out of that, and without the kid.:)

She doesn't have a guy, trust me on this. Otherwise she wouldn't throw herself all over every guy that worked there. Yes, she threw herself at me, and when I told her I was taking my job back after I took a break, she freaked out on me. I'm still trying to figure out what I did wrong, so are the other five people who all watched this situation unfold.

Shortly there after she started obsessing over the next guy. Only to nearly quit the job, screaming that the boss is an asshole. Only being saved by one VERY kind hearted coworker, who talked her into staying. That same coworker saved her from quiting on three other occasions, until she called the coworker a bitch. Somehow she still is working with us, and said kind hearted coworker has dissapeared.

Okay, so I posted in the "how often..." thread, but I wanted to post here too. I said there that being married... has its benefits. I stand a perfect 0% chance of remaining a virgin, either voluntarily or involuntarily since I'm not one. Anymore.

Until I got married, however, I was. And there's not only nothing wrong with not chasing around random partners to fornicate with, there's a lot right with keeping "clean" until being married. And for you people who think that is bizarre, I think you have no idea what you're dealing with... you may never... you may someday realise I'm right. I don't know. But don't look down on the ones who agree with me and either choose to remain celibate indefinitely or are just waiting to be married.

I'll stand here as counterpoint. I was a virgin until I married as well, and for me, it was a mistake, because I built sex up into such a big deal that there was no way it could live up to expectations. In a sense, I was a bit like Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off, only, you know, poor as hell--so ready to feel sex as love that when I did get married and get laid, I had no self-respect, and that kept me in the marriage longer than I should have been. Looking back, I have to believe that if I'd had sex, seen what the big deal was, I wouldn't have been so desperate to be married at 20.

I'm a voluntary virgin. I know very well that I could get a hooker at least. :p

I'll stand here as counterpoint. I was a virgin until I married as well, and for me, it was a mistake, because I built sex up into such a big deal that there was no way it could live up to expectations. In a sense, I was a bit like Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off, only, you know, poor as hell--so ready to feel sex as love that when I did get married and get laid, I had no self-respect, and that kept me in the marriage longer than I should have been. Looking back, I have to believe that if I'd had sex, seen what the big deal was, I wouldn't have been so desperate to be married at 20.

Is that the fault of marriage or the fault of society, though? So many people today grow up with this attitude that 'sex is everything' because that's what they're told since the moment they're about 10; it's probably inevitable that more stories like yours will occur.

I can admit this because I've grown with you people and I can trust you. Women scare me.

Is that the fault of marriage or the fault of society, though? So many people today grow up with this attitude that 'sex is everything' because that's what they're told since the moment they're about 10; it's probably inevitable that more stories like yours will occur.

In my case, I blame the culture I was raised in--fundamentalist Christianity that taught that sex outside specific, prescribed bounds was dirty and sinful. Consensual sex is just sex--it's as dirty as you want to make it, and as long as it's consensual, it can be, as Maud Lebowski put it, a zesty enterprise.

It's the linking of it to sinfulness that I have the biggest problem with, because it imposes artificial control and guilt on what is a perfectly natural desire.

I'm 18, I only got laid for the first time about a week ago. I don't normally try and pick up when I go to parties (I live on campus at a uni) and I'm not bad looking and I'm not deformed.

It doesn't live up to the expectations.

i'm 21 and only got laid for the first time a few months ago because i've never tried to 'pick up' chicks at parties either, and have never had or wanted anything like a one-night-stand, but rather waited for a real relationship with someone i cared about to come along. that's just what i wanted, and while it was difficult to see all my friends (well, most of them) get laid before me, to each his own, and i'm still very happy with my choice :)

and for the record, it gets better... and better... and better ;) :D

i'm 21 and only got laid for the first time a few months ago because i've never tried to 'pick up' chicks at parties either, and have never had or wanted anything like a one-night-stand, but rather waited for a real relationship with someone i cared about to come along. that's just what i wanted, and while it was difficult to see all my friends (well, most of them) get laid before me, to each his own, and i'm still very happy with my choice :)

and for the record, it gets better... and better... and better ;) :D

*high five*

*cough* Uuuh yeah....I'm still 14, I don't think I quite count yet.

*high five*

*cough* Uuuh yeah....I'm still 14, I don't think I quite count yet.

*ruffles hair* :D

As it stands, I'm a voluntary.

*high five*

*cough* Uuuh yeah....I'm still 14, I don't think I quite count yet.

Hey, my mom is 39 and my dad 42.

I'm 4 months away from my 25th birthday.

Not so long ago Armenian cheese changed his mind after finding these "pleasures of the flesh," and I don't know what happened to the other.
*fap*fap*fap*fap probably.

I'm a voluntary virgin. I know very well that I could get a hooker at least. :p
I'm not a voluntary virgin. It's the female population of this town that has taken a vow of celibacy, not me.
Or rather a vow of me-libacy.

The entire fucking town!
All 4 million of them.

*sigh*

I'm 18 and I'm a virgin. But considering I've never really had a serious girlfriend this is not really suprising to me.

I believe that even the ugliest person can find a mate.

Let me put it this way. I've had 5 g.f.s so far, all quite attractive. If I can get a g.f. ...almost anyone can.

Do you think you are destined too a life of involuntary celibacy?

No but I think I'm destined to a life watching others butcher the English language.

No, but I think I'm destined to a life watching others butcher the English language.

I fixed your grammar.

I corrected your grammar.
Ditto.

Ditto.

You got me. :p

All those forced too a life of involuntary celibacy (will never have sex, for whatever the reason), congregate here! (church bells ring)

I'm still a virgin, but I think I will meet a guy who will want me to be their boyfriend before I get out of high school. I mean, gay guys can't be THAT rare.

I'm still a virgin, but I think I will meet a guy who will want me to be their boyfriend before I get out of high school. I mean, gay guys can't be THAT rare.


Gays who are still in highschool, and already out, are.

Especially if you live in America. (with the exception of some neighborhoods of SF and PDX)

So if unvoluntary virgins come fourth, then who comes first, second and third?

Thanks. I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

Damn, you beat me to it.

Seriously folks, we're not grammar-Nazis but sometimes a little spelling goes a long way. "Forth" and "fourth" don't mean the same thing.

Now watch as Murphy's law hits me in the face and people correct my spelling.

Hey, my mom is 39 and my dad 42.

I'm 4 months away from my 25th birthday.

...umm...

Damn, you beat me to it.

Seriously folks, we're not grammar-Nazi's but sometimes a little spelling goes a long way. "Forth" and "fourth" don't mean the same thing.

Now watch as Murphy's law hits me in the face and people correct my spelling.
Sorry.

Damn, beat me to it.

Seriously folks, we're not grammar-nazis but sometimes a little spelling goes a long way. "Forth" and "fourth" don't mean the same thing.

Now watch as Murphy's law hits me in the face and people correct my spelling.

Eh, there's probably more.

...umm...

that's right. 14.

Sorry.

And Murphy is proven once again. :p

And Murphy is proven once again. :p

I proved him better. :p

Eh, there's probably more.

Why the bold s in hits?

Not a native speaker

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Right, wasn't present in the original post...

*Cries ashamed in a corner*

Well, I'm both boring and quite unattractive, so yep.

Hmm the poll is kind of rubbish.

Because most people will go between "once or twice ever" and "Fifty times a day", let's be honest.

Anyway, I've not had sex in a couple of weeks. Bah.

But before that my partner and I made love probably once a week on average.

He isn't kidding.

how do you know this?

As in, the stoicism-ideal of Ancient Rome? Cool. Not a choice I'd make, but cool.

Yes, that of ancient Rome. It's rather enlightening.