Coup in Thailand!
Pablicosta
19-09-2006, 19:23
It just came over BBC TV news that Bangkok has been taken by a Military Coup. After the 'revolution' in Hungary, this has really made my day. Honestly, I love it. The fact they did it while the Prime Minister was away in New York makes it oh so much better to,
You can laugh because nobodies been killed, and I think the whole 6 month situation is quite novel. If you don't know, the PM was elected when no other parties showed up to the ballot, got told that election didn't count but decided to stay in power anyway. What a guy :)
Linky
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/5361512.stm
Farnhamia
19-09-2006, 19:29
I liked this:
An army-owned TV station is showing images of the royal family and songs linked in the past with military coups.
In Thailand the military coups have soundtracks! What a civilized country!
Pablicosta
19-09-2006, 19:32
Yeah I saw that video, and the for 3 minutes the most patriotic thing I saw was a river. Go Team Taiwan! *Morphs*
Its not a coup unless blood is spilled. This officially sucks.
Its not a coup unless blood is spilled. This officially sucks.
Totally lame LOL!!!!!!1111 What a rip off!!!!!111 It's not right unless a bunch of people are killed, WTF?!
Gift-of-god
19-09-2006, 19:46
The King of Siam may be returning! Where's Julie Andrews?
Free Soviets
19-09-2006, 19:49
Its not a coup unless blood is spilled.
why not?
Call to power
19-09-2006, 19:50
Poor Bangkok having no parties
I for one will stand for office if there that desperate…could the NSG election be for the presidency!
Drunk commies deleted
19-09-2006, 19:53
Circle Jerks Coup D'Etat Lyrics
coup d'éat [x4]
the government gets overthrown
a sudden force,a major blow
over out,the new comes in
coup d'éat
give me a bomb
a molotov
it's a coup d'état!
the generalisimo sets up shop
step out of line
your neck's on the block
armies marching through the streets
dressed so sharp,dressed so neat
coup d'état [twice]
a push from the left and a shove from the right
it's all plaaned up,we'll do it tonight
first the president then his wife
we'll take them for ranson
or take their lives
attack their embassy
they are our enemies
el presidente smokes cigars
whoever he does not like
he shoots or put behind bars
coup d'état [twice]
kill all
Dontgonearthere
19-09-2006, 19:54
In Russia, government overthrows military coup!
Its funny 'cause its true ;)
Todays Lucky Number
19-09-2006, 20:02
live through one and lets talk then.
Farnhamia
19-09-2006, 20:04
The King of Siam may be returning! Where's Julie Andrews?
Uhm ... Gertrude Lawrence?
Pablicosta
19-09-2006, 20:05
live through one and lets talk then.
I doubt I'l ever live through one, but yeah I suppose it could suck.
On the other hand, its great fun to watch.
<token pirate day "arrrrrr">
New Burmesia
19-09-2006, 20:09
I liked this: In Thailand the military coups have soundtracks! What a civilized country!
Even better:
"We ask for the co-operation of the public and ask your pardon for the inconvenience," the announcement said.
It's like a closing supermarket!
Skinny87
19-09-2006, 20:11
Even better:
"We ask for the co-operation of the public and ask your pardon for the inconvenience," the announcement said.
It's like a closing supermarket!
"I'm sorry, the government you are trying to dial is currently engaged. Please hold the line."
Pablicosta
19-09-2006, 20:12
"I'm sorry, the government you are trying to dial is currently engaged. Please hold the line."
"Your citizenship is important to us"
LiberationFrequency
19-09-2006, 20:32
Freedom, Freedom, Revolution
Freedom, Freedom, Revolution
Freedom, Freedom, Revolution...
Staying up all night planning the downfall of your corrupted system.
What plot will I figure out and what thoughts will I pen down?
I will have my coup d'état.
I will start a riot.
I will hold your burning flag in my hand.
Sitting up all night planning my revolution with a catchy phrase.
A shitty band with an awesome plan.
A punk crusade throughout the land.
Sick of silence, of passive masses.
Educate, resist and take control.
To live a life in fear of changing is to not live at all.
I will have my coup d'état.
I will start a riot.
I will hold your burning flag in my hand.
And I will watch your empire fall.
And I will watch your empire fall.
And I will watch your empire fall.
I will not die for you.
I will not kill for you.
I will not fight for you.
I will not die for you.
I will not kill for you.
I will not fight for you.
I will hold your burning flag in my hand as I watch your empire fall.
Because I know it will.
Because I know it will.
I will have my coup d'état.
I will have my coup d'état.
I will have my coup d'état.
I will have my...
Scarlet States
19-09-2006, 20:41
Well I can only hope that this coup is truly for the good of the country and the new government will not be some form of autocracy or military-style dictatorship.
I would like to be optimistic that the dear General Sonthi Boonyaratglin will allow for the installment of a fairer and just democracy.
Cape Isles
19-09-2006, 20:42
I wounder if the General who lead the coup cares that he got the sack?
I wounder if he is the new acting PM?
LiberationFrequency
19-09-2006, 20:43
Well I can only hope that this coup is truly for the good of the country and the new government will not be some form of autocracy or military-style dictatorship.
I would like to be optimistic that the dear Lieutenant-General Prapart Sakuntanak will allow for the installment of a fairer and just democracy.
LOL!
The blessed Chris
19-09-2006, 21:00
There is something so refreshingly sincere about military coups. Considerably better for a populace than centrist, disenengenous politicians I feel.
Yay coup's!!! far more fun than cuorrupt elections!!!
but seriously, if you have a look at a few of the recent coups most of the Generals involved have become dictators, hope this one doesnt
When is the last time a country had a military coup? 80s?
LiberationFrequency
19-09-2006, 21:06
Didn't Thatcher's boy attempt a coup in South Africa?
That was pretty funny
Pablicosta
19-09-2006, 21:11
I think he got off with just 'providing funds' to the revolutionary cause, obviously he didn't know where his dosh was going...
Before that one, I think it was Taiwan in about 1990.
Guys, if you need help with your own coup, call 0800-TAIWAN now!
When is the last time a country had a military coup? 80s?
2005, Mauritania
Crossman
19-09-2006, 21:12
In Thailand the military coups have soundtracks! What a civilized country!
The only way it should be!
Greyenivol Colony
19-09-2006, 21:14
All signs so far have pointed to the fact that the new junta are douchebags. They seemed to have planned this in advance and their first moves have been to purge the cabinet, disempower the judiciary and the legislature, order the citizens of the street and cripple the free press.
This is a sad day for South East Asia... :(
The blessed Chris
19-09-2006, 21:16
All signs so far have pointed to the fact that the new junta are douchebags. They seemed to have planned this in advance and their first moves have been to purge the cabinet, disempower the judiciary and the legislature, order the citizens of the street and cripple the free press.
This is a sad day for South East Asia... :(
Not if it strengthens the Thai economy and society.
Meath Street
19-09-2006, 21:17
I'm most curious to find out how the new martial government handles the separatists in the south.
Barbaric Tribes
19-09-2006, 21:18
their leader was probably to buisy playing NS.
Apollynia
19-09-2006, 21:21
"Sonthi is a Muslim in this Buddhist-dominated nation, AP reported."
Linky
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/19/thailand.coup.rumor/index.html
More barbaric behavior from Abraham's most violent child. Evil and inhuman, right on the money, Pope Benedict. Just one more reason to eliminate religion altogether.
Fnordislovakia
19-09-2006, 21:27
More barbaric behavior from Abraham's most violent child. Evil and inhuman, right on the money, Pope Benedict. Just one more reason to eliminate religion altogether.
Becuase obviously, he did this because he's uslim :rolleyes:
Teh_pantless_hero
19-09-2006, 21:31
I'm most curious to find out how the new martial government handles the separatists in the south.
Invites them to an armed tea party where the lunch on crumpets and rice wine.
Greyenivol Colony
19-09-2006, 21:32
Not if it strengthens the Thai economy and society.
Anyone can strengthen an economy by enslaving the people within it, that does not mean that it is a wise or humane thing to do?
And strengthen society? What does that even mean? It doesn't sound like anything convusive to a military dictatorship.
The blessed Chris
19-09-2006, 21:33
Anyone can strengthen an economy by enslaving the people within it, that does not mean that it is a wise or humane thing to do?
And strengthen society? What does that even mean? It doesn't sound like anything convusive to a military dictatorship.
Wise? Wise in the pursuit of what goal?
Humane? Since when have the most humane governments equated to the most powerful and secure?
The Maritime Union
19-09-2006, 21:42
Nothing like a coup in the morning! I hope the Thai's can get on there feet quickly.
Greyenivol Colony
19-09-2006, 22:06
Wise? Wise in the pursuit of what goal?
Humane? Since when have the most humane governments equated to the most powerful and secure?
Actually, there is a definate corallation between the liberty and the success of a country. Simply because the populace are more willing to work for a state that respects and cares for them, than one that oppresses and hates them.
The USA, the most powerful nation the world has ever seen was 'conceived in liberty', and thus attracted the best of the brightest of the world. Ironically, if Nazi Germany had not been so Evil, and the USA had not been so Good, the nuclear scientists would not have fled to the latter and there would be a very different balance of power today.
And previously, the early British Empire prided itself on the moralistic nature of its dealings. Indian vassal states willingly allied themselves to Britain as they traded fairly, unlike all other Europeans who sought only to exploit. And in opposition to Europe's tyrants, it was Britain that first called itself 'the Land of the Free'.
And further back still, Ancient Athens and Republican Rome were two of the most successful civilisations ever in the Mediterranean, and all because they could convince the world that their humane governments were superior.
Inversely, evil regimes scarcely last long. They are eventually crushed by their righteous opposition or crumble without a charismatic leader.
There is no doubt that being Just is essential for a regimes long-term survival, history rarely forgives tyrants, and neither do the people.
Coup in Thailand! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_2006_Thailand_military_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat)
For the first time in 15 years the government in Thailand has been overthrown. From what I have read during the last couple of years Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has made a real mess of Thailand and at this point the only thing holding the country together is the uniform love the Thai people hold for King Bhumibol Adulyadej.
This could get very ugly very fast if the King refuses to support the Coup and calls for Thaksin's restoration.
The Lone Alliance
20-09-2006, 00:07
I have a picture from the news on the coup.
What tank is this (http://216.77.188.54/editorial/images/97/5038397/main-93c49c8e-85a3-4ba0-8e55-450f13840470.jpeg)?
Greyenivol Colony
20-09-2006, 00:10
Why the hell are people acting like this is a good thing. Its the total cancellation of liberty in an emerging and promising democracy.
Why the hell are people acting like this is a good thing. Its the total cancellation of liberty in an emerging and promising democracy.
The reason most people support this is because Thaksin has pretty much all but discredited democracy in Thailand with his endless blunders, blatant corruption, and his mismanagement of the Muslim Insurrection in southern Thailand.
If there was ever a time for a righteous coup in any country (other than the US with Bush) Thailand needed one.
Meath Street
20-09-2006, 00:23
Humane? Since when have the most humane governments equated to the most powerful and secure?
Europe and America now are the most humane (well not sure about America anymore) and the most powerful and secure.
Katganistan
20-09-2006, 00:30
Uhm ... Gertrude Lawrence?
Or Deborah Kerr, if you're talking the Yul Brynner musical film.
Pablicosta
20-09-2006, 06:10
Why the hell are people acting like this is a good thing. Its the total cancellation of liberty in an emerging and promising democracy.
Thailand was being screwed, and the PM was the cause of it. He had to go, but flat refused to leave office and under his rule Taiwan started to become seperated more than ever. This essentially non-military, military coup is good for the people from where I'm standing.
...plus, I quite like any coup.
Question is, what's the opinion of the people in Thailand about this?
Pablicosta
20-09-2006, 08:23
I dont think we have any way of telling right now. I dont even think the coup leaders know if they're going to take over or hold an election.
Cromotar
20-09-2006, 08:51
The funny part is that the tourists currently there have barely noticed.
"Coup? What coup?"
It's amazing how smoothly this is going down.
Scarlet States
20-09-2006, 10:53
I have a picture from the news on the coup.
What tank is this (http://216.77.188.54/editorial/images/97/5038397/main-93c49c8e-85a3-4ba0-8e55-450f13840470.jpeg)?
That my boy appears to be an M41 Walker Bulldog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M41_Walker_Bulldog).
Markiria
20-09-2006, 11:05
o my god:eek:
Air Union
20-09-2006, 12:02
*is in Thailand*
>_>......
Generally alot of thai people (well, in bangkok, most intellectuals, and what not), are anti-taksin due to his corruption and abuse of laws. He's also been switching around cabinet and military leaders so that his allies are in those seats.
Even better:
"We ask for the co-operation of the public and ask your pardon for the inconvenience," the announcement said.
Yes, that was funny. They overthrow a government, but they remain polite and apologise for it. ;)
More seriously, I hope the situation remains stable and peaceful. I wouldn't have expected a coup in Thailand, despite how unpopular the PM was.
Evil Cantadia
20-09-2006, 12:38
Apparently the King of Thailand has been through 14 coups before. Gotta have respect for that.
Southeastasia
20-09-2006, 13:01
I wasn't expecting a Constantino Sorantanali being pulled off in Thailand, or at least close to a Constantino Sorantanali situation being pulled off in Thailand, despite how unpopular the Thai Kingdom's Prime Minister was, in the first place, never mind a miltary coup.
And I'm not quite sure what will happen next, as it could very easily devolve into civil war.....and I frankly, fail to see the difference between the military junta in charge now, and Thaksin, and the Thai King, and I see various problems with the Thai system in general.
Thailand isn't ready for republicanism.
Greyenivol Colony
20-09-2006, 13:38
Thailand was being screwed, and the PM was the cause of it. He had to go, but flat refused to leave office and under his rule Taiwan started to become seperated more than ever. This essentially non-military, military coup is good for the people from where I'm standing.
...plus, I quite like any coup.
Firstly, Thailand and Taiwan are not the same place.
Secondly, while it is true that Thaksin Shinawatra has not been an ideal premier, he has not violated the Thai constitution and has acted entirely within the law. The boycott of the election was performed by elements opposed to democracy as a whole.
There is no argument that suspending the elected legislature and disempowering the rule of law is beneficial to the people.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-09-2006, 13:48
I'm most curious to find out how the new martial government handles the separatists in the south.
Hopefully by killing the bastards.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-09-2006, 13:49
Secondly, while it is true that Thaksin Shinawatra has not been an ideal premier, he has not violated the Thai constitution and has acted entirely within the law. The boycott of the election was performed by elements opposed to democracy as a whole.
I call bullshit.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-09-2006, 13:51
Question is, what's the opinion of the people in Thailand about this?
A little nervous about it, but they're not letting it affect their lives. Although some are reluctant to go outside.
Deep Kimchi
20-09-2006, 13:51
In keeping with the anti-Israel conspiracy theory making the rounds here on NS General, this is all Israel's fault. :rolleyes:
Congo--Kinshasa
20-09-2006, 13:52
This could get very ugly very fast if the King refuses to support the Coup and calls for Thaksin's restoration.
No it won't. They wouldn't dare do anything to the King.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-09-2006, 13:53
In keeping with the anti-Israel conspiracy theory making the rounds here on NS General, this is all Israel's fault. :rolleyes:
Damn. I was gonna blame Bob Dole...
Deep Kimchi
20-09-2006, 13:53
No it won't. They wouldn't dare do anything to the King.
Wait until they find out that he bleeds like a man.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-09-2006, 13:54
Wait until they find out that he bleeds like a man.
If you knew anything about Thailand, which, by your statement above, you clearly don't, you would know damn well they wouldn't lay so much as a finger on him.
Deep Kimchi
20-09-2006, 13:55
If you knew anything about Thailand, which, by your statement above, you clearly don't, you would know damn well they wouldn't lay so much as a finger on him.
I do know quite a bit about it. By your statement above, you clearly have absolutely no sense of humor.
Congo--Kinshasa
20-09-2006, 13:56
I do know quite a bit about it. By your statement above, you clearly have absolutely no sense of humor.
My apologies. It's hard to know when someone's being humorous on an internet forum. :(
Scarlet States
20-09-2006, 18:15
Well it seems that Premier Thaksin is heading from the US to London in the UK in order to join up with his wife and children.
The coup in Thailand seems to be proceeding quite well so far, not a single shot fired. By the way there are actually videos of the Thai Coup leaders announcement on Youtube.com if anyone is interested.
GreaterPacificNations
20-09-2006, 22:47
Question is, what's the opinion of the people in Thailand about this?
Should be 50/50 if the last election is anything to go by (which it's most probab;y not, as there are numerous allegations it was fixed). Nevertheless, Thaksin has a very strong support base in the rural areas.
GreaterPacificNations
20-09-2006, 22:49
The King will fix everything...When he makes a decision, everyone will just obey. The first thing any coup does in Thailand is pledge alliegience to the king.
The Psyker
20-09-2006, 23:16
It seems that the king has endorsed the coup.
GreaterPacificNations
20-09-2006, 23:33
It seems that the king has endorsed the coup.
Good, everyone will agree with him then.
Southeastasia
21-09-2006, 10:46
Good, everyone will agree with him then.
That is what worries me about monarchies and the people. What if the monarchy isn't always benign?
The Thai King does have good intentions and he does remain popular indeed by the people (and he supports democracy), but what if one of his heirs doesn't support democracy, and has virtually all of the Thai King's popularity and respect, if not more?
What if the Thai heir wants an absolute monarchy, and along with most of the military, decides to oust a non-ineffective-and-impotent Thai Prime Minister simply because he or she doesn't personally get along with that Thai PM and because the heir believes in absolute monarchy, via violent means and a simple letter? The Thai Royal Military Forces would be divided, and along with the people.
That is why I believe that having a nigh-popular monarch would be bad, especially with regards to their way of thought.