NationStates Jolt Archive


Terrorist attacks in the West

Inconvenient Truths
19-09-2006, 21:28
There is still much talk of a clear and present danger to the US and UK.
In the last year the US government has been caught carrying out several illegal operations and the UK government has tried to bypass democracy and introduce a law giving total executive power to the PM, unfettered by current restrictions or past laws. Each case was appraently justified by the need to combat the growing threat of terrorism.

If the threat is so real and urgent, why haven't there been more attacks?
No offence to the various security services involved but there is no way they can have stifled a concerted campaign against the West. Even before the advent of suicide bombers (which even the IDF failed to eradicate) countries were highly vulnerable to terrorist action.
All the plots that I have heard of being foiled all involve incredibly complicated plans which necessitate a great deal of organisation. Surely the terrorists have thought about doing things more simply? They seemed to have reached that conclusion in Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Indonesia, etc, which is where the terrorists we apparently need to sacrifice our liberties to stop are trained.

There is certainly a threat to national security. But is it the threat that our governments make it out to be?
LiberationFrequency
19-09-2006, 21:31
"introduce a law giving total executive power to the PM, unfettered by current restrictions or past laws"

Link?

Why the hell would anyone want give the PM so much control? He's hated and everyone is trying to get him to leave.

Yes, the threat is exagerrated.
Inconvenient Truths
20-09-2006, 19:28
"introduce a law giving total executive power to the PM, unfettered by current restrictions or past laws"

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmbills/111/2006111.htm
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/print/0%2C%2C329426895-102273%2C00.html
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/constitution/comment/0,,1724047,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1072-2049791,00.html
http://www.saveparliament.org.uk/
http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2006/03/_the_legislativ.asp

There are others, just do a search for 'The Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill' or 'The Abolition of Parliament Bill'.

This is what Brits are referring to when they say that reactions to terrorism are destroying the way we live.
Strummervile
20-09-2006, 19:36
There is a threat no doubt about that. But a threat justifying what has been done well no there isnt that.