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I won't post a lengthly article about why you should like Jews, but I thought it would be nice to see an equivalent thread or two.

Mostly positive, a bit negative for me

Jews have made many contributions to my society, and all the Jews I know are really nice. But I have heard some right-wing Israeli Jews ranting and some of the things they believe and tie to their faith are pretty sickening.

With my eyes, what else?
(There, that joke has been done)

How in the world can you have an opinion on millions of people you've never met?

I don't 'view Jews' in any way. I view each person I meet as and when I meet them.

No differently from anyone else I meet..

With my eyes, what else?
(There, that joke has been done)

Through the Jewmaster? Like the Viewmaster, but more Aryan?

Seriously, though, Meath Street, what kind of question is that?

Seriously, though, Meath Street, what kind of question is that?
SAme kind of question as posed by the Northland!

With my eyes, what else?
(There, that joke has been done)

Then the work is done here...

The Jewish faith itself is flawed, as is the Islamic faith, and the Christian faith. Anyone who takes said faith too seriously is viewed somewhat negatively by me.

SAme kind of question as posed by the Northland!

Oh. Well why would you want to pose the same kind of question as that racist POS?

SAme kind of question as posed by the Northland!

Of all the posters on this board, Ny Nordland is not the one you want to copycat.

SAme kind of question as posed by the Northland!

*Nordland.

And believe me, you don't wanna act like Nordland.

Through the Jewmaster? Like the Viewmaster, but more Aryan?
I just got this mental image of NAZIs running around with little red plastic things attached to their helmets trading white, round circles to find Jews...

I'm pretty sure that's your fault.

Seriously, though, Meath Street, what kind of question is that?
NN strikes again with the How do you view Muslims? thread.

I just got this mental image of NAZIs running around with little red plastic things attached to their helmets trading white, round circles to find Jews...

I'm pretty sure that's your fault.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was going for. Glad to have been of service.

As with the previous poll thread involving Muslims, I have the same opinion: "Somewhat positive, somewhat negative".

Oh. Well why would you want to pose the same kind of question as that racist POS?
Equality quota?

I'll save us all some time and just link to my answer in the "How do you view muslims" thread. The answer is the same anyways...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11698018&postcount=42

I view everyone positively:)

How in the world can you have an opinion on millions of people you've never met?

I don't 'view Jews' in any way. I view each person I meet as and when I meet them.

Well, you can always judge someone by the ideology he holds. And a Jew per definitionem holds the ideology of Judaism.

A religion less freaky than some yet far more freaky than others.

Somewhat positively, somewhat negatively. This is because of all the jews I've met, about half were very cool and nice people, and a half were total assholes and/or annoying whiners. That's how I feel about the jewish people.

My feelings toward Judaism itself are slightly more negative, mostly because of the attitude that if you ever criticize Israel for any reason, that somehow makes you personally responsible for the Holocaust. Also, I oppose any religion that supports or requires ritual genital mutilation.

If they are irreligious, I view them the same as other people, without even subconscious prejudice.

If they are judaists... I don't really care if someone is a muslim, a judaist, or of another "strong" religion, and prefer to be very careful about them. Being strongly religious indicates a lot of things, mostly not good.

All the Jews I have met were just like Muslims
All the Muslims I have met were just like Christians
All the Christians I have met were just like other people
:D

On the whole people are similar everywhere and the real differences between them are thin. The core goals and desires are the same; Family, friends, Home, a job, respect…
As everywhere individuals differ greatly in their views….

I assume that everybody thinks something about the Jews, but how many have a least one little thought about Bigtopians?

And that's I call injustice...

I got nothing against them. Although their nation can be a bit jerky sometimes.

I assume that everybody thinks something about the Jews, but how many have a least one little thought about Bigtopians?

And that's I call injustice...

Bigtopians seldom get in the news... :rolleyes:
Negative or positive...

I got nothing against them. Although their nation can be a bit jerky sometimes.

I have nothing really negative about that particular group. All nations can get a bit jerky however not just Israel.

Jews, as a whole, are all right with me. I grew up going to school with an assortment of Jewish kids, and the cool thing was we got all their holidays off school. On the other hand, my MIL worked for a year for a medical practice run by five Jewish doctors, and three of them were, to put it politely, hellions. One was stingy, one tried to see way too many patients, and one was a snob. The other two actually didn't operate the practice and, by all accounts, were nice folks; one of them even treated my broken ankle, and he couldn't have been more of a gentleman.

That said, it's my understanding that they weren't hard to work for because they were Jewish. Doctors are notoriously hard to work for, from what I have heard, and breaking HIPAA and labor laws (as they did) knows no religious or ethnic boundaries (as my MIL's past employers also did.) So to say they were evil because they were Jewish is looking at the problem with tunnel vision. Then again, I have a mild distrust of the medical industry anyway, mostly brought on by drug companies.

With my eyes, what else?
(There, that joke has been done)

the answer to the "Jewish" question, one could say?

Well, you can always judge someone by the ideology he holds. And a Jew per definitionem holds the ideology of Judaism.

That assumes that 1) all Jews are practicing Jews and 2) that there is a monolithic ideology that covers all practicing Jews. By the way, both assumptions are incorrect.

Well, I can't say I agree with the whole "chosen people" thing or the issues with interracial marriage. Other than that, though, they aren't any worse than any of the other religions out there.

I view jews through a kaleidoscope. It creates an entertaining Multi-jew effect. :)

with my eyes?

is this a trick question?

I view jews through a kaleidoscope. It creates an entertaining Multi-jew effect. :)

dont forget the jew trails when tripping on acid.....

Great post, I edited it slightly so people can insert any religion...
:)
That assumes that 1) all [...] are practicing [...] and 2) that there is a monolithic ideology that covers all practicing [...]. By the way, both assumptions are incorrect.

the answer to the "Jewish" question, one could say?

There are no answers to the jewish question, only solutions.

Jews are fine. Although I view most Israelis negatively.

There are no answers to the jewish question, only solutions.

Sure, the solution is never to ask the question again.

I view them as jewish. Which many jews, suprisingly, are.

That assumes that 1) all Jews are practicing Jews and 2) that there is a monolithic ideology that covers all practicing Jews. By the way, both assumptions are incorrect.

What does "practicing" mean in this regard? Beliefs are not practiced, they are what's in people's minds. If you believe in the matters of Christianity you are a Christian, if you believe in the matters of Judaism you are a Jew. What you "practice" or what your official membership of any religious group is does not necessarily correspond with who and what you are.
And the core matters of Judaism are pretty monolithic, i.e. the assumption that there is a singular god who has interacted with humans in the way the Tanakh renders it.
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Through my spectacles.

What does "practicing" mean in this regard? Beliefs are not practiced, they are what's in people's minds. If you believe in the matters of Christianity you are a Christian, if you believe in the matters of Judaism you are a Jew. What you "practice" or what your official membership of any religious group is does not necessarily correspond with who and what you are.
And the core matters of Judaism are pretty monolithic, i.e. the assumption that there is a singular god who has interacted with humans in the way the Tanakh renders it.
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Practicing in this regard means religiously observant, and not all Jews are observant. And even among those who are, there's a wide range of belief systems. But it is very much possible to be ethnically Jewish and yet not observant or even a believer in the faith, which is why the issue is ridiculous.

It all depends on if they are evil zionests or not. Zionisim is evil it is was has cause 90% of the problems in the middle east. If they would leave Jeruselem alone and just go back to the land that was partioned out to them in the 1948 accord by the Un WHICH DID NOT INCLUED Jeruselem then everything would be so much better.

Practicing in this regard means religiously observant, and not all Jews are observant. And even among those who are, there's a wide range of belief systems. But it is very much possible to be ethnically Jewish and yet not observant or even a believer in the faith, which is why the issue is ridiculous.

Since when does Judaism constitute an ethnicity? Now that's ridiculous.
The belief that there is a singular god who has interacted with humans in the way the Tanakh renders it is not what I would consider a "wide range of belief systems". There might be differences between factions in certain aspects of the faith but the foundation is the same for all Jews. That is why they have a collective name. Christianity also consists of various factions such as Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, etc, yet they have a collective name "Christians" because of their common belief in Jesus as the incarnation of a god.
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Wow, what a moronic poll this is. I didn't bother reading through the myriad responses so I don't know if this has been said.

Where the hell was the option that you don't view them any diffrent than anyone else. The closest option was (paraphrasing at best) "somewhat postive, somewhat negitive". Which is bs the the nth degree. I don't judge a person based on their race, creed, religious beliefs etc etc. I base them on their character.

Poll is BS.

Piekrom;11702852']It all depends on if they are evil zionests or not. Zionisim is evil it is was has cause 90% of the problems in the middle east. If they would leave Jeruselem alone and just go back to the land that was partioned out to them in the 1948 accord by the Un WHICH DID NOT INCLUED Jeruselem then everything would be so much better.

Don't tell me. You think that the Protocols of the Elder Zion is a secret Jewish blueprint for taking over the world, right?

with my eyes?

is this a trick question?

yes. you have to view them through 3-D glasses to prevent the jew-rays eminating from their noses from harming your wallet!?!?!?!

i view jews the same way as muslims, christians, etc...

silly faith, but if they feel the need to believe in god, good luck to them.

Jews as a race does not exist

so..... I view them as people who want what most people want, home, family, happiness.

How fucked up is this thread ?

Why not start a what race is better ?

Or Why are white people superior ?

Or should all Arabs be drawn and quartered and fed to pigs ? thread..

WTF is wrong with you ?


The hitler youth is over .

And everyone already knows the Aryans are the master race .


Think instead....Whats wrong with not excepting EACH individual for what they are and not judging anyone by race or religion but by deed and interaction.

This thread is one HUGE example of why the world is so fucked up .

I've actually been thinking of converting to Judaism >_>;

Don't tell me. You think that the Protocols of the Elder Zion is a secret Jewish blueprint for taking over the world, right?

Or maybe he is writing the next generation protocol.

I won't post a lengthly article about why you should like Jews, but I thought it would be nice to see an equivalent thread or two.

Mostly positive, a bit negative for me

Jews have made many contributions to my society, and all the Jews I know are really nice. But I have heard some right-wing Israeli Jews ranting and some of the things they believe and tie to their faith are pretty sickening.

I see Jew's positively. No reason not too. I don't know that many. As for people who are overly anti or pro Jewish all because of Israel...that just annoys me. Israel is an Israeli situation not a jewish one. Yes Israel is a Jewish state but that doesn't make it a jewish problem. It's like describing the Norhern Ireland situation soley a Catholic/Protestant problem. When if you look more closely its more to do with land than religion...

Since when does Judaism constitute an ethnicity? Now that's ridiculous.
The belief that there is a singular god who has interacted with humans in the way the Tanakh renders it is not what I would consider a "wide range of belief systems". There might be differences between factions in certain aspects of the faith but the foundation is the same for all Jews. That is why they have a collective name. Christianity also consists of various factions such as Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, etc, yet they have a collective name "Christians" because of their common belief in Jesus as the incarnation of a god.
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Judaism is a religion, but the question refers to Jews, which encompasses more than just the religion, which is what you don't seem to get. Here's some Wiki goodness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew#Ethnic_divisions) on the subject.

As to your other point, I imagine that if we go back far enough, we can find enough similarities between many world religions so as to make the distinctions between them meaningless, which is what I think you're trying to do with Judaism.

Well, I can't say I agree with the whole "chosen people" thing or the issues with interracial marriage. Other than that, though, they aren't any worse than any of the other religions out there.

the interracial marriage?
But jews are not a race. or do you mean marrying outside of the religion? If so what do you expect its a religion. they like funny rules

I got nothing against them. Although their nation can be a bit jerky sometimes.
"Their nation"? Did you know that less than half of Jews live in Israel? And that one in five Israelis is not a Jew?

I view jews through a kaleidoscope. It creates an entertaining Multi-jew effect. :)
You win!

Well, it's a vague question because some are ethnic Jews, some are practicing Jews, and there's orthodox Jews, etc.

Everyone I've met who calls themself Jewish has been extremely nice, very polite, and had good character. I'm sure there are some who are Jewish who are very nice and probable some who are huge jerks.

I've actually been thinking of converting to Judaism >_>;

no need to be ashamed/nervous about it, ask a rabbi in your community about conversion.

I've heard(I dont know) that converting to judaism is quite hard, have to learn hebrew and all that jazz.

Forgot to put in a funny one such as 'Time for some pork.'

I love Jews. Positive all the way.

When I first meet a person my view of them is positive until they give me a reason to think otherwise.

How fucked up is this thread ?

Why not start a what race is better ?

Or Why are white people superior ?

Or should all Arabs be drawn and quartered and fed to pigs ? thread..

WTF is wrong with you ?


The hitler youth is over .

And everyone already knows the Aryans are the master race .


Think instead....Whats wrong with not excepting EACH individual for what they are and not judging anyone by race or religion but by deed and interaction.

This thread is one HUGE example of why the world is so fucked up .

Yeah okay, and what did you think of the "How do you view Muslims?" thread? Same kind of example, or is it different cuz they're just Muslims?