NationStates Jolt Archive

For the love of God... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57DcmfM6BSE)

Amazing, ain't it?

Notice that kid wasn’t actually walking with all that shit.

No baggy pants and all shirts tucked in? Totalitarians.

I hope the little fuckwad that volunteered to be a part of that gets the shit beat out of him.

I would never think of putting a dangerous weapon so near my crotch though they do make a point about being able to identify intruders

Still school dress codes are good IMHO because when I was at school I had enough trouble finding cloths for mufti days let alone everyday

I hope the little fuckwad that volunteered to be a part of that gets the shit beat out of him.

even with all those guns?

lets see him try to walk or sit down with all that in his pants.

and big surprise, I can still sneak weapons even wearing skin tight pants with my shirt tucked in.

land big surprise, I can still sneak weapons even wearing skin tight pants with my shirt tucked in.

you just stuck a bazooka down your pants and no man dared ask didn’t you :p

That's a frightening amount of weaponry! But why does this have to do with a dress code?

I wouldn't terribly object to a dress code, except that I'm not sure about something. Do many dress codes force girls to wear skirts? Because that would be bad, and I couldn't get by without only wearing long pants (not skirts or shorts). Also, dress code mandated clothing may not be as comfortable as what I usually wear.

you just stuck a bazooka down your pants and no man dared ask didn’t you :p

Is that an RPG in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? :p

His guns will fall out when he starts moving around.

Is that an RPG in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? :p

imagine the chaffing :eek:

OMG, BAGGY PANTS CONCELED ALL THOSE WEAPONS, MUST HAVE DRESS CODE BECAUSE EVERY BAGGY PANTS WEARERS MUST BE PACKING!


Give me a break, Dress codes never solve anything, all it does is white wash the problem. :rolleyes:

imagine the chaffing :eek:

Why do you think they'd call it a third leg?

Notice that kid wasn’t actually walking with all that shit.

No baggy pants and all shirts tucked in? Totalitarians.

I hope the little fuckwad that volunteered to be a part of that gets the shit beat out of him.
Amen.

Seriously, if I want to, I can conceal thirty deadly weapons in a nice-looking school uniform. You can have a knife or two in each pants leg, a throwing star in your breast pocket, a small handgun, a dirk, and a few glass shards in your left pocket; two guns and a pair of brass knuckles in your right pocket, knived in your sleeves; one of those collapsible rifles in the back of your shirt (on the condition that you can have some sort of jacket on), a short length of razor wire hidden in your collar, a blowgun hidden behind your tie (if you have one, some schools do, some don't), explosive charges in each shoe as well as tucked into the inside of your waistband, a small gun in each butt pocket, a vial of botulinum by your wrist, for dumping in the school cafeteria food (as if it could get any worse), I could go on...

And don't get me started on the backpack.

Just another day at the office for Deep Kimchi....

For the love of God... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57DcmfM6BSE)

Amazing, ain't it?I take it you haven't seen Bowling for Columbine yet?

I take it you haven't seen Bowling for Columbine yet?

Sorry, I don't watch anything Michael Moore makes.

Notice that kid wasn’t actually walking with all that shit.

No baggy pants and all shirts tucked in? Totalitarians.

I hope the little fuckwad that volunteered to be a part of that gets the shit beat out of him.

lets see him try to walk or sit down with all that in his pants.

and big surprise, I can still sneak weapons even wearing skin tight pants with my shirt tucked in.
actually, it's rather easy to walk with all that shit, including the shotgun. notice how most kids sit in their chairs, one leg stretched out and slightly bent? that is possible with a shotgun. also, most lockers will hide the weapon once it's in school property.

notice tho, a dress code won't stop the smaller guns from being in the pockets. and then there are knives...

For the love of God... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57DcmfM6BSE)

Amazing, ain't it?

o_0

If the best response to fears of gun violence your school board can make is to change the dress code, then you've got the stupidest school board in history.

Sorry, I don't watch anything Michael Moore makes.Yeah. If you had, you would have seen this before. ;)

I take it you haven't seen Bowling for Columbine yet?

There are a million other ways to hide a weapon. And besides, at Columbine, the students didn't come into class with the weapons hidden in their clothes. They kept them in the car until they were ready to start shooting everyone.

o_0

If the best response to fears of gun violence your school board can make is to change the dress code, then you've got the stupidest school board in history.

hehehehe... considering the negative parental responses to Metal Detectors, armed guards on campus, random locker/restroom searches, bans on leaving school grounds... etc.... what would be your solution?

We haven't seen whether he is capable of moving around, sitting down, etc. with all those firearms in his clothes, and we also haven't seen that dress codes would prevent this.

Thus, this is hardly a "good argument."

hehehehe... considering the negative parental responses to Metal Detectors, armed guards on campus, random locker/restroom searches, bans on leaving school grounds... etc.... what would be your solution?

Negative parental reaction? My high school implemented three of those four, and they left out the metal detectors because the board was too cheap to spring for them. That funding decision was being reconsidered due to a parent-driven push when I left. I'm still thankful I never have to go through that school system again.

That being said, I favor measures that prevent kids from getting hold of weapons in the first place. Students can be violent outside of school as easily as inside, and pretending that making a school safer will make your kids safer is just ignoring the rest of your kid's life outside of school. Making it more difficult for kids to buy weapons themselves, programs to inform parents how to properly secure their firearms so that the kids can't steal them, programs that keep the kids occupied with activities other than plotting killing sprees, etc. Treat the entire problem that leads to a kid opening fire on his classmates, rather than trying to limit the damage at school.

Here's a crazy idea: take the guns out of society before they get down some guttersnipe's trouserleg.

Here's a crazy idea: take the guns out of society before they get down some guttersnipe's trouserleg.

Yea.... I'm sure that'll work, and the black market doesn't really exist either. :rolleyes:

There are a million other ways to hide a weapon. And besides, at Columbine, the students didn't come into class with the weapons hidden in their clothes. They kept them in the car until they were ready to start shooting everyone.
I think the point he was making is that this clip was shown in "Bowling for Columbine".

Yea.... I'm sure that'll work, and the black market doesn't really exist either. :rolleyes:


You seem to be operating under the assumption that I'm just positing more restrictive gun licensing or a ban on firearms. I mentioned society there, not people's hands.

Anyhow, would you consider society to be safer if there were more guns in circulation or less? Or is the safety of a society not affected by the number of guns in circulation?

That's a frightening amount of weaponry! But why does this have to do with a dress code?

I wouldn't terribly object to a dress code, except that I'm not sure about something. Do many dress codes force girls to wear skirts? Because that would be bad, and I couldn't get by without only wearing long pants (not skirts or shorts). Also, dress code mandated clothing may not be as comfortable as what I usually wear.

Most dress codes force girls to wear skirts.

So do you consider society to be safer if there were more guns in circulation or less? Or is the safety of a society not affected by the number of guns in circulation?

Safer with more. Especially if "in circulation" excludes the state and its enforcers.

Safer with more.

Interesting. Did the invention of firearms make the world a safer place?

Regarding school uniforms, I think George Carlin said it best...

Here's another bunch of ignorant shit: school uniforms. Bad theory. The idea that if kids wear uniforms to school it helps keep order. Don't these schools do enough damage makin' all these kids think alike? Now they're gonna get 'em to look alike, too? And it's not a new idea, I first saw it in old news reels from the 1930's...but it was hard to understand because the narration was in German.

Interesting. Did the invention of firearms make the world a safer place?

No, because they have served as auxiliaries to state power.

Uniforms don't really solve the problem.

Instead of telling some kids to pull up their baggy pants, I'm telling some of my students to stop trying to make their uniform pants baggy (Yes, it is a very sad sight).

Any good dress code should include proper holsters for weapons; it's dangerous carrying them like that. Just one mis-step and he could have ended up a eunuch.

Amen.

Seriously, if I want to, I can conceal thirty deadly weapons in a nice-looking school uniform. You can have a knife or two in each pants leg, a throwing star in your breast pocket, a small handgun, a dirk, and a few glass shards in your left pocket; two guns and a pair of brass knuckles in your right pocket, knived in your sleeves; one of those collapsible rifles in the back of your shirt (on the condition that you can have some sort of jacket on), a short length of razor wire hidden in your collar, a blowgun hidden behind your tie (if you have one, some schools do, some don't), explosive charges in each shoe as well as tucked into the inside of your waistband, a small gun in each butt pocket, a vial of botulinum by your wrist, for dumping in the school cafeteria food (as if it could get any worse), I could go on...

And don't get me started on the backpack.

:eek:
I'm fucking scared now.

Here's a crazy idea: take the guns out of society before they get down some guttersnipe's trouserleg.

Here's an even zanier idea. Take the guttersnipes out of society.

Why do dress codes always bash baggy pants? What do adults have against the penis?

:eek:
I'm fucking scared now.

Most of what he mentioned isn't deadly. Throwing stars, for example. You can't kill someone with them. Hell, it's difficult to seriously injure someone with them. They're used to slow people down, nothing else.

There are a million other ways to hide a weapon. And besides, at Columbine, the students didn't come into class with the weapons hidden in their clothes. They kept them in the car until they were ready to start shooting everyone.
They had them hidden at the max 10 seconds. And as for bowling for Columbine, I heard it is full of shit.

They had them hidden at the max 10 seconds. And as for bowling for Columbine, I heard it is full of shit.
And if notices that you have a gun, shoot the fuck outta them.

Anyhow, would you consider society to be safer if there were more guns in circulation or less? Or is the safety of a society not affected by the number of guns in circulation?

I would say safer, because people would have the means to protect themselves with their guns. If someone breaks into my house and they have a gun, they better be prepared to look down the barrel of my 12 gauge shotgun. Not to say I don't take precausion. I do have a gun box in my room that is locked and secure to the floor under my bed, and I keep the shells in another location in my room.

I would never think of putting a dangerous weapon so near my crotchMy sentiments exactly..

Sorry, I don't watch anything Michael Moore makes.But then how will you know why to hate him?

Yea.... I'm sure that'll work, and the black market doesn't really exist either. :rolleyes:Takes a bit of effort for high school kids to get access to the black market though, or is that right next to walmart in the US?

The US black market, so it's pretty much inside the schools.

Also, If I was wanting to rob a house, let's see, In a country with strict gun laws (I.e. NZ) Get a gun for $5 (Handgun mind you) rob a house, have to be in and out before police arrive to arrest you.
In a country where responsible adults can have guns, you have to be in and out before a resident awakes and kills you.

Guns help prevent crimes in my opinion.

The only way less guns would decrease crime, is if all were removed, which will never happen as long as they get smuggled in.

In a country with strict gun control, you don't need a gun to rob a house. Afaik most burglers here don't have guns. True, not having a gun doesn't deter a burgler in the slightest. But if you spot a burgler you don't have to worry about getting shot because he's worried you might shoot first.
There's a lot of pros and cons to factor in. I'm not sure what the end balance would be.

Back to topic, the kid who smuggled all the guns in his jeans could just put even more of them in his rucksack and it'd be a hell of a lot easier and less noticable.

Most dress codes force girls to wear skirts.

That's ridiculous. Why?

OMG, BAGGY PANTS CONCELED ALL THOSE WEAPONS, MUST HAVE DRESS CODE BECAUSE EVERY BAGGY PANTS WEARERS MUST BE PACKING!


Give me a break, Dress codes never solve anything, all it does is white wash the problem. :rolleyes:

And they are teh unconstitutional type of suckishness (in other words, they are illegal).


And yes, the rules apply. Even if one is a highschool freshman.

That's ridiculous. Why?Probably due to lobbying by the "people for the ethical treatment of tentacle monsters"..

Probably due to lobbying by the "people for the ethical treatment of tentacle monsters"..
PETTM?

At my school, I feel so sorry for my female students. They FREEZE in the winter (and it is REALLY cold here in Nagano). You know it's the deep part of winter when the girls start showing up wearing long underwear under their skirts and carry small fuzzy blankets to wrap their legs in an effort to keep them from turning blue and falling off.

PETTM?

At my school, I feel so sorry for my female students. They FREEZE in the winter (and it is REALLY cold here in Nagano). You know it's the deep part of winter when the girls start showing up wearing long underwear under their skirts and carry small fuzzy blankets to wrap their legs in an effort to keep them from turning blue and falling off.

Why don't they just wear tights?

...

I hope the little fuckwad that volunteered to be a part of that gets the shit beat out of him.

cus that's not a childish thing to say...
:rolleyes:

Why don't they just wear tights?
They do, they still have to have the blanket (Japanese schools have NO cental heating or insulation. I've literally had my coffee freeze in its mug).

They do, they still have to have the blanket (Japanese schools have NO cental heating or insulation. I've literally had my coffee freeze in its mug).
:eek:

That doesn't sound like a uniform problem, though. A freezing cold room is a freezing cold room whatever you're wearing.

:eek:

That doesn't sound like a uniform problem, though. A freezing cold room is a freezing cold room whatever you're wearing.
Yes, but they are stuck in the skirt whether the weather is nice or no. At least I have the option of dressing in warm slacks, a thick sweater, flece socks, and long undies.

Hmm... that could explain why I am so popular amoung my female students during the winter, I'm warm. ;)

lets see him try to walk or sit down with all that in his pants.
My thoughts exactly. He would have to walk so strange he'd be expelled for drinking.

Just another day at the office for Deep Kimchi....

I didn't think he ever left his bunker

Spandex for all!