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Should people in Hollywood really be getting into politics and deciding what is right for people who don't live like them? The stars of Hollywood are just so disconnected from the rest of America, that for them to go into Politics is just asaine. Of course rich disconnected people have always gone into politics because they have the means to do so. I think that people like Ronald Reagan and Arnold are the exception to the rule. Basically 99.5% of Hollywood stars should never ever be in politics and should never ever have more power than they already do to influence the lives of normal average American citizens.

You could argue that anybody who is obscenely wealthy is too detached from the world the rest of us live in making them incapable of understanding what's important to/for us and so shouldn't be allowed to enter politics.
Unfortunately American politics as it is set up, pretty much makes it impossible for anyone except the obscenely wealthy to stand.
So why just single out the movie types?

You could argue that anybody who is obscenely wealthy is too detached from the world the rest of us live in making them incapable of understanding what's important to/for us and so shouldn't be allowed to enter politics.
Unfortunately American politics as it is set up, pretty much makes it impossible for anyone except the obscenely wealthy to stand.
So why just single out the movie types?

Because they are the most vocal, they think that they know what is the best, but clearly don't and God forbid if they live by what they preach.

You could argue that anybody who is obscenely wealthy is too detached from the world the rest of us live in making them incapable of understanding what's important to/for us and so shouldn't be allowed to enter politics.
Unfortunately American politics as it is set up, pretty much makes it impossible for anyone except the obscenely wealthy to stand.
So why just single out the movie types?

I agree, and it is unfortunate. I don't see why we don't try and get just some average Joe into the game one of these days.

I agree, and it is unfortunate. I don't see why we don't try and get just some average Joe into the game one of these days.

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Should people in Hollywood really be getting into politics and deciding what is right for people who don't live like them? The stars of Hollywood are just so disconnected from the rest of America, that for them to go into Politics is just asaine. Of course rich disconnected people have always gone into politics because they have the means to do so. I think that people like Ronald Reagan and Arnold are the exception to the rule. Basically 99.5% of Hollywood stars should never ever be in politics and should never ever have more power than they already do to influence the lives of normal average American citizens.

They're just a bunch of blabbering idiots who serve little purpose except as cannon fodder if aliens ever invade the Earth.

They're just a bunch of blabbering idiots who serve little purpose except as cannon fodder if aliens ever invade the Earth.

So that would explain the big target on Hollywood that can only be seen on the air.

I agree, and it is unfortunate. I don't see why we don't try and get just some average Joe into the game one of these days.
Because average Joe doesn't have enough money, and the truth is that we'd never vote for someone who didn't have a nice, glitzy campaign.

So that would explain the big target on Hollywood that can only be seen on the air.

Shhhh they're listening to you...don't give it away.

Because they are the most vocal, they think that they know what is the best, but clearly don't and God forbid if they live by what they preach.

You mean like Ronald Regan? Sorry, but he is not the exception you seem think he is. It that blithering idiot could publicly speak his mind and go into politics, so can any other entertainer. Or for that matter, so can any deranged mental patient with enough money.

You mean like Ronald Regan? Sorry, but he is not the exception you seem think he is. It that blithering idiot could publicly speak his mind and go into politics, so can any other entertainer. Or for that matter, so can any deranged mental patient with enough money.

Yea, but at least a deranged mental patient would be less hypocritical and more imformative than the Hollywood crowd. That's another thing I don't really like or understand their desire to be in politics. How informed are they? I mean do they really know worldy things, or are they just barking talking points and have no clue what they actually mean?

Yea, but at least a deranged mental patient would be less hypocritical and more imformative than the Hollywood crowd. That's another thing I don't really like or understand their desire to be in politics. How informed are they? I mean do they really know worldy things, or are they just barking talking points and have no clue what they actually mean?
Ah! You mean like you?

And me?

And anyone else on NS General?

Or anyone else in the US?

Or the world?

What gives YOU the right to demand that someone shut the hell up because you don't like their politics? Or is it ok for you, but not for them? I hear stupidity coming from people all the time (Rush Limbaugh leaps instantly to mind), but I respect his right to say what his beliefs are because that's what being American is about.

Try to remember that.

Also, try to remember that they are actors, not your personal court jesters who performs upon command and shuts up when you tell them to.

So, are you trying to say famous people and various Hollywood go-ers don't understand the real events of the day? Well, perhaps that's because they aren't reading the paper, likely because the pictures of them and slander is just too irritating. So maybe if the 'normal' paparazzi people would get outta there face you'd see the oddity of normal people with half a brain in Hollywood.

That's another thing I don't really like or understand their desire to be in politics.

Same reason anyone (right or left) goes into it. There are many reasons such as power, the chance to remake the world in their own image, to give back to society, to be helpful, to bring change.

How informed are they? I mean do they really know worldy things, or are they just barking talking points and have no clue what they actually mean?

They know just as much as Ronald Regan, Arnold S., Charelton Heston, etc. knew. Personally I'd perfer someone who is trained in politics, economics, internatonal affairs, law, etc. to be in (any) office. I don't trust Joe Sixpack from just any walk of life to make the right decisions. Unfortunatly I'm in the minority there.

Ah! You mean like you?

And me?

And anyone else on NS General?

Or anyone else in the US?

Or the world?

What gives YOU the right to demand that someone shut the hell up because you don't like their politics? Or is it ok for you, but not for them? I hear stupidity coming from people all the time (Rush Limbaugh leaps instantly to mind), but I respect his right to say what his beliefs are because that's what being American is about.

Try to remember that.

Also, try to remember that they are actors, not your personal court jesters who performs upon command and shuts up when you tell them to.

So you're telling me that you would be HAPPY to have oo I dunno, for the hell of it, let's just say Paris Hilton for President? I mean she has a right to be in politics, she has a right to run. No, well, how about well let's just say Mel Gibson. I'm sure we'll all love to see what he has to say during talkins between US and Israel. Still not good enough, well let's just say umm, Ellen, or Rosie O' Donnell, or Tom Hanks.

Just because a person has the right to voice their opinion, doesn't mean they should. However, they are doing one good service to their country by opening their mouths. At least they prove why they shouldn't be in politics.

So, are you trying to say famous people and various Hollywood go-ers don't understand the real events of the day? Well, perhaps that's because they aren't reading the paper, likely because the pictures of them and slander is just too irritating. So maybe if the 'normal' paparazzi people would get outta there face you'd see the oddity of normal people with half a brain in Hollywood.

Hey, if they didn't want the Paparazzi in their face, they shouldn't have become famous, and don't give me that bullshit. These people love the attention. They love it because it's free publicity. Hell did you think that Mel Gibson or Paris didn't like the bad publicity that they've gotten? Hell no, it just one more step for them to become a house hold name!

So you're telling me that you would be HAPPY to have oo I dunno, for the hell of it, let's just say Paris Hilton for President? I mean she has a right to be in politics, she has a right to run. No, well, how about well let's just say Mel Gibson. I'm sure we'll all love to see what he has to say during talkins between US and Israel. Still not good enough, well let's just say umm, Ellen, or Rosie O' Donnell, or Tom Hanks.

Just because a person has the right to voice their opinion, doesn't mean they should. However, they are doing one good service to their country by opening their mouths. At least they prove why they shouldn't be in politics.

They never said people should or would be elected or anything. They still have a right to run, and if they want to voice their opinions and run for president, fine, doesn't mean they'll be elected.

So you're telling me that you would be HAPPY to have oo I dunno, for the hell of it, let's just say Paris Hilton for President? I mean she has a right to be in politics, she has a right to run. No, well, how about well let's just say Mel Gibson. I'm sure we'll all love to see what he has to say during talkins between US and Israel. Still not good enough, well let's just say umm, Ellen, or Rosie O' Donnell, or Tom Hanks.
If they run, they have the right TO run. I doubt that I would vote for them, or that they would win.

Or did you forget that the people have to vote them into office? Sounds like you'd like to remove the voting rights of a good chunk of the population.

Just because a person has the right to voice their opinion, doesn't mean they should. However, they are doing one good service to their country by opening their mouths. At least they prove why they shouldn't be in politics.
No, prove to ME that someone should be forced to be removed from the political process due to their job. Last I checked the Constitution didn't read that all poltical canadates must not be actors or must be checked and approved by Wilgrove before they can be voted on.

We vote, that's the whole of the idea and we vote for those people that we like. Hopefully we vote for those who are intelligent and in touch with current events (though President "I never read a newspaper" Bush has blown THAT idea out of the water). But if we DO vote an idiot into office, well... we got the leader that we wanted and that we deserved.

Same reason anyone (right or left) goes into it. There are many reasons such as power, the chance to remake the world in their own image, to give back to society, to be helpful, to bring change.

I hate to see the change Paris Hilton would bring.


They know just as much as Ronald Regan, Arnold S., Charelton Heston, etc. knew. Personally I'd perfer someone who is trained in politics, economics, internatonal affairs, law, etc. to be in (any) office. I don't trust Joe Sixpack from just any walk of life to make the right decisions. Unfortunatly I'm in the minority there.

Now Arnold I agree, I think he just got into politics because his look faded. However, as for Reagan, yes he was in Hollywood, but he also took part in California's politics. He was part of the Actor's Guild, he spearheded many Anti-Communist commity, was a Governor for California, and President. At least he was able to be an actor and actually study politics at the same time.

Charles heston, eh that's a tough one to call, he is in the NRA which is a political group, but he may just be a figure head, like the queen.

I hate to see the change Paris Hilton would bring.



Now Arnold I agree, I think he just got into politics because his look faded. However, as for Reagan, yes he was in Hollywood, but he also took part in California's politics. He was part of the Actor's Guild, he spearheded many Anti-Communist commity, was a Governor for California, and President. At least he was able to be an actor and actually study politics at the same time.

Charles heston, eh that's a tough one to call, he is in the NRA which is a political group, but he may just be a figure head, like the queen.
And thus your own theory comes crumbling down around you fool feet.

They never said people should or would be elected or anything. They still have a right to run, and if they want to voice their opinions and run for president, fine, doesn't mean they'll be elected.

The problem I have is, people in Hollywood, they act like they know everything ok. They act like they know what's best. Now the fact that they're actors doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that well, 1. they are disconnected with rest of America, so actually knowing what is best for the average American is just silly. It's like saying that I, a white Catholic middle class male knows what's right for a poor black islmaic female! I don't know what's best for her, so I'm not going to say anything, because I'll just end up looking like a jackass. Personally I think they do all of this "politics" (if you can call it that) just so they can seem worldy, when they are not.

It's like this column I read a while back. This columnist usually writes about the latest dance clubs, the best drinks, you know crap like that. Well a while back she wrote a political piece. Now I'm not saying she doesn't have the right to do that, but to image someone who mostly writes about the bar and dance scene and then write a political piece is hard to follow and makes it doubtful that she devotes herself as much to politics that I do or anyone else does.

And thus your own theory comes crumbling down around you fool feet.

Not really, notice I said he was the exception. I'm talking about the people who does acting and jobs like that all day long, and then go home, that's it. Also, Reagan was hardly a mega-millionaire Hollywood actor, he only made a few B rated movies. To compare Reagan to people like Rosie O' Donnell or Barbara Striestand is silly.

If celebrities didn't want people pawing through their trash and calling them gay they shouldn't have expressed themselves creatively.

Charles heston, eh that's a tough one to call, he is in the NRA which is a political group, but he may just be a figure head, like the queen.

The Queen isn't just a figure head, just so's yer know.

The Queen isn't just a figure head, just so's yer know.

Yea, but she doesn't really have any real power either. Tony Blair has more power than her.

The problem I have is, people in Hollywood, they act like they know everything ok. They act like they know what's best. Now the fact that they're actors doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that well, 1. they are disconnected with rest of America, so actually knowing what is best for the average American is just silly. It's like saying that I, a white Catholic middle class male knows what's right for a poor black islmaic female! I don't know what's best for her, so I'm not going to say anything, because I'll just end up looking like a jackass. Personally I think they do all of this "politics" (if you can call it that) just so they can seem worldy, when they are not.

It's like this column I read a while back. This columnist usually writes about the latest dance clubs, the best drinks, you know crap like that. Well a while back she wrote a political piece. Now I'm not saying she doesn't have the right to do that, but to image someone who mostly writes about the bar and dance scene and then write a political piece is hard to follow and makes it doubtful that she devotes herself as much to politics that I do or anyone else does.

What a ridiculous cartoon world you live in where people can only be or do one thing and that one thing precludes them from anything else.

If celebrities didn't want people pawing through their trash and calling them gay they shouldn't have expressed themselves creatively.


Why shouldn't someone be able to express themselves without people going through their stuff etc?




The Queen still has power. Clearly not as much as Tony Blair, but she coudl start a war. She improves relations with other countries, and :sniper: to you.

What a ridiculous cartoon world you live in where people can only be or do one thing and that one thing precludes them from anything else.

I don't know, I guess a world where people who decide to talk about politics at least know what they are talking about, and can actually relate with 99% of it's population. (Remember the rich only makes up 1%) So, I guess a better one.

I am off to bed, I'll respond to anymore post when I awake.

Not really, notice I said he was the exception. I'm talking about the people who does acting and jobs like that all day long, and then go home, that's it. Also, Reagan was hardly a mega-millionaire Hollywood actor, he only made a few B rated movies. To compare Reagan to people like Rosie O' Donnell or Barbara Striestand is silly.

I get it. If they agree with you, then by all means.

Gopher from The Love Boat is a senator, should he be removed from office because he is guilty of having once been an actor? Seeing as you praise Reagan's work with HUAC, no doubt you do. Sorry, your true intentions are far too visible.

Fucking ridiculous.

Why shouldn't someone be able to express themselves without people going through their stuff etc?




The Queen still has power. Clearly not as much as Tony Blair, but she coudl start a war. She improves relations with other countries, and :sniper: to you.

Yea, nice use of the gun smiley. :rolleyes: Any credibility you have just went down the drain with that statement.

The Queen isn't just a figure head, just so's yer know.

What power does she have?

Naw, I just felt like using the smilie since I hadn't used one yet. Just ignore that bit.

What power does she have?

I just said, she improves relations with other countires and could quite easily start a war.

I don't know, I guess a world where people who decide to talk about politics at least know what they are talking about, and can actually relate with 99% of it's population. (Remember the rich only makes up 1%) So, I guess a better one.

I am off to bed, I'll respond to anymore post when I awake.

Remember that the kind of rich that actors are pale in comparison to the kind of rich that actually run this country. Look at the richest 200 people in this country and you'll find a scant few entertainers.

And the 'don't know what their talking about' seems really nothing more than fresh from your ass. Step up, don't give me Paris Hilton shaped strawmen. It's obvious it's simply that you don't agree with them so you have decided that they don't know what they're talking about and should be silenced.

Better? If you're a fucking facsist that loves to silence opposition. Nice.

I get it. If they agree with you, then by all means.

Gopher from The Love Boat is a senator, should he be removed from office because he is guilty of having once been an actor? Seeing as you praise Reagan's work with HUAC, no doubt you do. Sorry, your true intentions are far too visible.

Fucking ridiculous.

Eh he can stay, he may have been once an actor, but at least he's now into politics and I dunno. It's really up to the people who elected him, not me. lol.

Ok, let me put it this way.

Would you say, that Barbara Striestand, would be able to relate to you, and your problems? Would she be able to relate to you politically and what you think is best for America? Do you honestly think that she can actually comprehend where you are coming from, etc. I highly doubt it, and the same is true for most of the Hollywood crowd. They can't relate to us, they can't relate to me, and any attempts on them to do so is pointless and a moot point.

For someone who is obviously disconnected from the majority of society to try to influence the same society is folly.

I just said, she improves relations with other countires and could quite easily start a war.

How does she improve relations with other countries, and how could she start a war?

She goes to visit countries and talk to the important people. And how about she sends some troops to bomb/shoot people in another country?

Remember that the kind of rich that actors are pale in comparison to the kind of rich that actually run this country. Look at the richest 200 people in this country and you'll find a scant few entertainers.

Hey, you people elected them, you're stuck with them.


And the 'don't know what their talking about' seems really nothing more than fresh from your ass. Step up, don't give me Paris Hilton shaped strawmen. It's obvious it's simply that you don't agree with them so you have decided that they don't know what they're talking about and should be silenced.

Yes, they should be quiet, because I really don't give a rats ass what any of them have to say. Why, because I don't relate to them. I actually get up early in the morning, I go to school all day, I work part time, and I have responsibility to my family and friends. To say that these people can relate to me, and thus tell me what is best for me is stupid. It's asaine. Yes, they should shut up until they are willing to give up their wealth, and get down from their pedstal, and come live with Average Americans!

Better? If you're a fucking facsist that loves to silence opposition. Nice.

Yea, nice use of the facist comment. :rolleyes:.

Eh he can stay, he may have been once an actor, but at least he's now into politics and I dunno. It's really up to the people who elected him, not me. lol.

Ok, let me put it this way.

Would you say, that Barbara Striestand, would be able to relate to you, and your problems? Would she be able to relate to you politically and what you think is best for America? Do you honestly think that she can actually comprehend where you are coming from, etc. I highly doubt it, and the same is true for most of the Hollywood crowd. They can't relate to us, they can't relate to me, and any attempts on them to do so is pointless and a moot point.

For someone who is obviously disconnected from the majority of society to try to influence the same society is folly.
Yeah, because an elite born member of a political legacy that is handed things like oil companies and baseball teams to ruin as he sees fit really sees eye to eye with my day to day existance.

Silly rabbit.

Yeah, because an elite born member of a political legacy that is handed things like oil companies and baseball teams to ruin as he sees fit really sees eye to eye with my day to day existance.

Silly rabbit.

I never said Bush could relate to us either. FYI, I never supported Bush, in fact I dispise him because he tries to pass himself off as Conservative, but he's not.

Hey, you people elected them, you're stuck with them.
So if people want to elect a celebrity of some sort or listen to what they have to say it should likewise be thier choice. Not to mention that ignoring the statement really more or less crumbles your tiny little thesis. "These kind of rich disconnected people are okay, but these aren't."



Yes, they should be quiet, because I really don't give a rats ass what any of them have to say. Why, because I don't relate to them. I actually get up early in the morning, I go to school all day, I work part time, and I have responsibility to my family and friends. To say that these people can relate to me, and thus tell me what is best for me is stupid. It's asaine. Yes, they should shut up until they are willing to give up their wealth, and get down from their pedstal, and come live with Average Americans!

A good deal many of them come from average backgounds, worked meanial jobs and struggled and sweated to get to where they where. Or do you think they where visited by the Fame Fairy at birth and granted it?

Yea, nice use of the facist comment. :rolleyes:.
I don't know another word for someone who wants to silence opposing voices.

I never said Bush could relate to us either. FYI, I never supported Bush, in fact I dispise him because he tries to pass himself off as Conservative, but he's not.

Never mind that the same thing could be applied to a majority of people in office....

But we know-only rich disconnected people who you agree with should say anything. We can see that as clear as day in your posts.

She goes to visit countries and talk to the important people. And how about she sends some troops to bomb/shoot people in another country?

So she has power because she's famous? How is talking to important people in other countries important other than as a publicity event? Does she have the power to make treaties or promises with foreign government? The Queen has the authority to have troops shoot/bomb people in other nations on whim?

She improves diplomatic relations, actually.

And I reckon so, since she pays the troops. She may not pay for the weaponry etc. but she does pay the troops. So ya, I think so. *nods*

And I reckon so, since she pays the troops. She may not pay for the weaponry etc. but she does pay the troops. So ya, I think so. *nods*

Damn! I want the Queen to go nuts a kill some folks in some country now. :P

Damn! I want the Queen to go nuts a kill some folks in some country now. :P

Yer might be outta luck there I'm afraid.

Would you say, that Barbara Striestand, would be able to relate to you, and your problems? Would she be able to relate to you politically and what you think is best for America? Do you honestly think that she can actually comprehend where you are coming from, etc.

Sure. Just because she is rich now doesn't mean she always was. She was born into a working class family. Her father died when she was only 15 months old. She was always told she would never ammount to anything because she was too ugly. Yet she busted her ass working night and day to make something of herself. And she suceded. And you can't relate to that???? Hell kid, that's what the American dream is all about.

I hate to see the change Paris Hilton would bring.

Ditto Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Riley, Toby Keith, etc. And that's why people won't vote any of them into office.

What a stupid question. Should democratic rights be denied to an entire group of people because Wilgrove doesn't like Paris Hilton?

As soon as you properly define who 'they' are, what 'their' collective crime is, and why it's so terrible to society, then we'll talk. Until then, get a grip.

Yes, they should be quiet, because I really don't give a rats ass what any of them have to say.

Well, I don't give a rats ass about what you have to say. Does that mean YOU should have to be quiet too? In the few months that you have been on here, you have yet to prove that you are any more intelligent or well informed than any of the people you rant about. If you can work and go to school and still have time to become "informed," what makes you think that they can't? And I'm guessing that they are probably far more knowledgeable than you are just by virtue of the fact that they have lived in this nation longer than you have and have had more time to explore it.

And thus your own theory comes crumbling down around you fool feet.

Remember the all-purpose mantra:

It's Okay If You're A Republican

Would you say, that Barbara Striestand, would be able to relate to you, and your problems? Would she be able to relate to you politically and what you think is best for America? Do you honestly think that she can actually comprehend where you are coming from, etc. I highly doubt it, and the same is true for most of the Hollywood crowd.
Do you honestly think that anyone can relate to you and your problems? They can't, people's view of the Universe is inherently in the first person, and so the only person whom they can really understand are themselves, and the only interests they can relate to are their own.

Yes, they should be quiet, because I really don't give a rats ass what any of them have to say. Why, because I don't relate to them. I actually get up early in the morning, I go to school all day, I work part time, and I have responsibility to my family and friends. To say that these people can relate to me, and thus tell me what is best for me is stupid. It's asaine. Yes, they should shut up until they are willing to give up their wealth, and get down from their pedstal, and come live with Average Americans!
You DO realize that just about everyone who currently makes up our goverment make millions or more, don't you? You REALLY think that THEY understand your Average Americans (Whatever the hell they are, I've never met one)?

You just don't like what they're saying so you want them to shut up. It ain't going to happen and it doesn't need to happen. If you REALLY don't like them, boycott their products, simple as that.

But if you like staying in Hilton Hotels or watching movies... well, tough shit, ain't it?

Actually, when you think about it, loads of entertainers in Hollywood came from Average Joe backgrounds. And usually (because of the American system) your Average Joe wouldn't be able to voice an opinion publicity.

So maybe some Celebrities actually are the voice of the common man.

I dunno.

Just because a person has the right to voice their opinion, doesn't mean they should. However, they are doing one good service to their country by opening their mouths. At least they prove why they shouldn't be in politics.

Every idiot in America has, and should always have, the ability, and the right to speak up and let his worthless opinion be heard.

Even you.

Should people in Hollywood really be getting into politics and deciding what is right for people who don't live like them? The stars of Hollywood are just so disconnected from the rest of America, that for them to go into Politics is just asaine. Of course rich disconnected people have always gone into politics because they have the means to do so.
It's no different from 95% of American politicians. They all come from the upper classes.

I think that people like Ronald Reagan and Arnold are the exception to the rule.
Could you be more transparent? To you there an exception because they agree with your politics.

Basically 99.5% of Hollywood stars should never ever be in politics and should never ever have more power than they already do to influence the lives of normal average American citizens.
Unless they hold political office they have no power. They has as much right to free speech and to campaign as anyone else.

Yes, they should be quiet, because I really don't give a rats ass what any of them have to say. Why, because I don't relate to them. I actually get up early in the morning, I go to school all day, I work part time, and I have responsibility to my family and friends. To say that these people can relate to me, and thus tell me what is best for me is stupid. It's asaine. Yes, they should shut up until they are willing to give up their wealth, and get down from their pedstal, and come live with Average Americans!
All of what you're talking about could apply to right-wing celebrities or politicians.

It's so obvious that you just want them to shut up because they don't agree with you. Why not just come out and say it?

I never said Bush could relate to us either. FYI, I never supported Bush, in fact I dispise him because he tries to pass himself off as Conservative, but he's not.
Then why do you never complain about him? As an uninformed rich guy who not only knows nothing about the common man's life, but actually got into power, I think he's much more deserving of your ire.

She improves diplomatic relations, actually.

And I reckon so, since she pays the troops. She may not pay for the weaponry etc. but she does pay the troops. So ya, I think so. *nods*
The British people pay both the troops and for their weapons through taxes. They also pay for the Queen's life of luxury through taxes, and so did we til 1921!

The only celebrities who should be in politics are Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. Everyone else can go 'fornia themselves.

And the American people should definitely get Average Joe Sixpack in there, I'm sick of all the rich kids. It'd be nicer if there was an Average Jane in there though.

Yes Hollywood needs to stay away from politics they have been in fantasy world for to long that it has corrupted their brains and reasonable thinking They do not have the Best Interest of the American People. I say they need to stick to their Fantasy World. The People or the most reasonable thinking people would probably agree.

Should people in Hollywood really be getting into politics and deciding what is right for people who don't live like them? The stars of Hollywood are just so disconnected from the rest of America, that for them to go into Politics is just asaine. Of course rich disconnected people have always gone into politics because they have the means to do so. I think that people like Ronald Reagan and Arnold are the exception to the rule. Basically 99.5% of Hollywood stars should never ever be in politics and should never ever have more power than they already do to influence the lives of normal average American citizens.

Politicians are so disconnected from real people that they shouldn't become politicians, but that doesn't stop them.

Yes Hollywood needs to stay away from politics they have been in fantasy world for to long that it has corrupted their brains and reasonable thinking They do not have the Best Interest of the American People. I say they need to stick to their Fantasy World. The People or the most reasonable thinking people would probably agree.
:rolleyes:
Right...

I thought that Hollywood politics =

British and Russians = Ne'er do wells.
White Americans = These people are heroes.
Blacks and Hispanics = These are useful as working-class people in our films and oft baddies
Germans = Entirely Nazis
Italians = Pervs / Nazi Sympathisers / Fools / Plumbers
The French = These are useful for rude people / cowards, and their part in saving our arses from the British need be ignored at every turn.
Asians = Ninjas. All of them.

I don't know, I guess a world where people who decide to talk about politics at least know what they are talking about, and can actually relate with 99% of it's population. (Remember the rich only makes up 1%) So, I guess a better one.

I am off to bed, I'll respond to anymore post when I awake.
you mean the superrich who only make up 1% shouldn't be allowed to run for president? Or just the 1% who are both superrich and can't tell you the cost of a gallon of milk? That 2nd one would be George Bush Snr.

That first category would be just about every president, particularly those of recent elections

Remember, they are citizens too. Should we not vote for you because you can't relate to their problems? I doubt any politician can relate to the problems of a 20 year old unemployed student whos biggest weekly worries are "can I get my 300 pages of reading done ontime?" "where am I getting beer for the weekend?" and "I wonder if she'd bang me?"

I agree, and it is unfortunate. I don't see why we don't try and get just some average Joe into the game one of these days.

i dont know about other countries but the US is full of average joes making it in politics

look at the past few presidents...

bush--man of privilege

clinton--self made man

bush-- man of privilege

reagan -- self made man

carter--self made man

ford--self made man

nixon --self made man

lyndon johnson--self made man

john kennedy-- man of privilege

dwight eisenhower--self made man

harry truman--self made man

fdr--manof privilege.

Should people in Hollywood really be getting into politics and deciding what is right for people who don't live like them? The stars of Hollywood are just so disconnected from the rest of America, that for them to go into Politics is just asaine. Of course rich disconnected people have always gone into politics because they have the means to do so. I think that people like Ronald Reagan and Arnold are the exception to the rule. Basically 99.5% of Hollywood stars should never ever be in politics and should never ever have more power than they already do to influence the lives of normal average American citizens.

A person in Hollywood is just a person. A person who works in the entertainment industry should and does have the same rights to participate in politics and in the community that anyone else does. It is their right and indeed their duty to look out for their own interests and beliefs. Any problem does not lie with the people in Hollywood expressing opinions or running for office it lies with those who adopt the opinions of entertainers and who vote for them rather than forwarding their own interests.

That's another thing I don't really like or understand their desire to be in politics.

Look, at least they have a desire. There are those (oddly enough) those who are currently in politics who have no real desire for the task-at-hand.

How informed are they?

As informed as the electorate demands they be, come election day. Ronald Reagan was a pillock; never seemed to impact on his political fortunes.

I mean do they really know worldy things, or are they just barking talking points and have no clue what they actually mean?

That'd be up to them to demonstrate to your satisfaction, and up to you to investigate - again, to your satisfaction. Just like any other political hopeful. Just like candidates in elections anywhere.

i dont know about other countries but the US is full of average joes making it in politics
Even if some of them were born middle class, they all seem to be absolutely swimming in it by the time they get to political office.