NationStates Jolt Archive


Computerology

Posi
16-09-2006, 21:46
Delightful news all you NSGers, Posi is going to show you the light.

Fairly recently, science has found that there are minmums in the universe:a minimum length of distance, a minimum lenght of time, and a minimum mass. Since all other measurements are just a combination of those three unites, they all have a minimum too. What do I mean by minimum unit? I mean if you were to say keep looking at smaller and smaller distances, you would get to a point were you couldn't subdivide your measurement anymore. Something could be at point x, or point y. There is no halfway point between them. Another exemple, you are measuring a subatomic particle, you find that it is exactly 15 units long. It would be completely imposible for it to be 15.1 units long. Why is this so? Because the smallest unit of measurement is a pixel. Well, what's a pixel then? A pixel is the smallest point possible on your computer screen. That is right, our entire universe is being run on some computer. Time also is easily explainable with this theory. The smallest unit of time is one frame on the computer that stores our universe. From this one can easily see that the universe as we know it is really a cumputer simulation.


EDIT: I forgot all the stuff about the supernatural.

The supernatural is possible. While there is no code that says that ghosts exist or that someone could walk on water, code does, on occasion, execute incorrectly. This is known wore commonly as a glitch.
Fartsniffage
16-09-2006, 21:48
I want what you're smoking.
Terecia
16-09-2006, 21:49
So The Wachowski Brothers were right! *dies*
Righteous Munchee-Love
16-09-2006, 21:49
*hopes it's not run on Windows*
Posi
16-09-2006, 21:49
I want what you're smoking.

Handsout free sample.
Fartsniffage
16-09-2006, 21:55
Handsout free sample.

I thank you sir:cool:
Philosopy
16-09-2006, 21:59
I have a big computer screen.

*Nods*
Posi
16-09-2006, 22:05
*hopes it's not run on Windows*
I think the owners of the computer would be far beyond Windows.
Gurguvungunit
16-09-2006, 22:09
The Matrix+drug of your choice=/=good.

The flashbacks! The flaassshbaaacks!
Call to power
16-09-2006, 22:10
I think the owners of the computer would be far beyond Windows.

linux?
Drunk commies deleted
16-09-2006, 22:12
Whoa, I know Kung Fu.
Ifreann
16-09-2006, 22:20
There is no spoon, only spork.
The War On Evil
16-09-2006, 22:40
what can i say? i tend to belive you posi, but i also tend to belive that it's ********... why? because: theory1: the universe is infinite. dividing it into pieces means that it's not infinite anymore because if you can divide it, then it's a unit and it's not an infinity anymore. theory2: in the same time, the universe, infinite, can be infinite by having an infinite number of units. theory3: every unit has an infinite number of pieces, or more exactly units. i say units because every piece can be divided into an infinite number of pieces (those can be divided too... and so on....) and that makes it a unit. theory4: the infinity is a piece too, or unit, can be divided... these are my theories about universe. it is strange how the infinity can be a unit. honestly it took me about an year to formulate this theory, and i reached to one conclusion. this is the balance of the universe. i called it infinity and unity. an d one more conclusion i reached: this balance is mainteined by god, and the devil is the one that wants to destroy the balance, leading into the destruction of the universe, and (hope i'm wrong) of god too
Ifreann
16-09-2006, 22:55
what can i say? i tend to belive you popsi, but i also tend to belive that it's ********... why? because: theory1: the universe is infinite. dividing it into pieces means that it's not infinite anymore because if you can divide it, then it's a unit and it's not an infinity anymore. theory2: in the same time, the universe, infinite, can be infinite by having an infinite number of units. theory3: every unit has an infinite number of pieces, or more exactly units. i say units because every piece can be divided into an infinite number of pieces (those can be divided too... and so on....) and that makes it a unit. theory4: the infinity is a piece too, or unit, can be divided... these are my theories about universe. it is strange how the infinity can be a unit. honestly it took me about an year to formulate this theory, and i reached to one conclusion. this is the balance of the universe. i called it infinity and unity. an d one more conclusion i reached: this balance is mainteined by god, and the devil is the one that wants to destroy the balance, leading into the destruction of the universe, and (hope i'm wrong) of god too
Oh course you can divide some thing infinite. The set of real numbers is infinite. The set of positive real numbers is half of it, but also infinite.
Kyronea
17-09-2006, 00:34
Delightful news all you NSGers, Posi is going to show you the light.

Fairly recently, science has found that there are minmums in the universe:a minimum length of distance, a minimum lenght of time, and a minimum mass. Since all other measurements are just a combination of those three unites, they all have a minimum too. What do I mean by minimum unit? I mean if you were to say keep looking at smaller and smaller distances, you would get to a point were you couldn't subdivide your measurement anymore. Something could be at point x, or point y. There is no halfway point between them. Another exemple, you are measuring a subatomic particle, you find that it is exactly 15 units long. It would be completely imposible for it to be 15.1 units long. Why is this so? Because the smallest unit of measurement is a pixel. Well, what's a pixel then? A pixel is the smallest point possible on your computer screen. That is right, our entire universe is being run on some computer. Time also is easily explainable with this theory. The smallest unit of time is one frame on the computer that stores our universe. From this one can easily see that the universe as we know it is really a cumputer simulation.


EDIT: I forgot all the stuff about the supernatural.

The supernatural is possible. While there is no code that says that ghosts exist or that someone could walk on water, code does, on occasion, execute incorrectly. This is known wore commonly as a glitch.
As fun as this sounds, Posi, it seems like the big ol' BS unless you can provide some proof.
Jimusopolis
17-09-2006, 01:34
This pixel you describe sounds like the Plank length :)

I think it was recently shown that statistically we were more likely to be living in a computer generated simulation than a 'real' world as well.
Xisla
17-09-2006, 02:10
This pixel you describe sounds like the Plank length :)

I think it was recently shown that statistically we were more likely to be living in a computer generated simulation than a 'real' world as well.

:eek:

Does that mean that... God is a Geek?

*Prepares offerings of porn software and chocolate*
Iakenuinui
17-09-2006, 03:27
Delightful news all you NSGers, Posi is going to show you the light.

Fairly recently, science has found that there are minmums in the universe:a minimum length of distance, a minimum lenght of time, and a minimum mass. Since all other measurements are just a combination of those three unites, they all have a minimum too. What do I mean by minimum unit? I mean if you were to say keep looking at smaller and smaller distances, you would get to a point were you couldn't subdivide your measurement anymore. Something could be at point x, or point y. There is no halfway point between them. Another exemple, you are measuring a subatomic particle, you find that it is exactly 15 units long. It would be completely imposible for it to be 15.1 units long. Why is this so? Because the smallest unit of measurement is a pixel. Well, what's a pixel then? A pixel is the smallest point possible on your computer screen. That is right, our entire universe is being run on some computer. Time also is easily explainable with this theory. The smallest unit of time is one frame on the computer that stores our universe. From this one can easily see that the universe as we know it is really a cumputer simulation.


EDIT: I forgot all the stuff about the supernatural.

The supernatural is possible. While there is no code that says that ghosts exist or that someone could walk on water, code does, on occasion, execute incorrectly. This is known wore commonly as a glitch.

How do you know there is no code that creates ghosts, etc...?

How is the code produced?

If the code is produced by some "programmer", then the creation of ghosts and the like would be a trivial coding exercise.

Why would the "programmer" not do fun stuff like that?

The question is, can we communicate with the programmer, and would it be any surprise to "him" if we tried to do so?

Also,.. what changes in my world (as I conceive it) if I accept this doctrine of how the universe works?

Why should I care, and what use is it to me?


-Iakeo
Hamilay
17-09-2006, 03:32
linux?
That would explain the natural disasters...
Iztatepopotla
17-09-2006, 04:48
This pixel you describe sounds like the Plank length :)

I think it was recently shown that statistically we were more likely to be living in a computer generated simulation than a 'real' world as well.

There is one real universe, in it live creatures capable of creating virtual universes, and these could also create their own subuniverses. So, while there's only one real universe, there are potentially many virtual universes. It's more probable that we live in one of those universes than in the real one.
Posi
17-09-2006, 07:42
As fun as this sounds, Posi, it seems like the big ol' BS unless you can provide some proof.
Actually it is you who has to prove it wrong.
Posi
17-09-2006, 07:43
This pixel you describe sounds like the Plank length :)

I think it was recently shown that statistically we were more likely to be living in a computer generated simulation than a 'real' world as well.
Correct

Pixel=Plank length. I didn't mention it because I cannot remember whether it is Plank or Flank. *nod*
Posi
17-09-2006, 20:38
How do you know there is no code that creates ghosts, etc...?
If they code existed, we could easily verify their existance. Since there is no code, there is no consistant method of ghosts modifying our world.
How is the code produced?
If we knew that we would all have our own universes would we not?
If the code is produced by some "programmer", then the creation of ghosts and the like would be a trivial coding exercise.
Easier to program than us. However, the programmer doesn't have towant ghosts in his universe does he.
Why would the "programmer" not do fun stuff like that?[quote]
How do you know that he is doing this for fun. He could be doing this to try to prove fate, or the creation of the universe.
[quote]The question is, can we communicate with the programmer, and would it be any surprise to "him" if we tried to do so?
As of now no, we cannot communicate. If we ever got technelogically advanced enoughwe could make a giant(as in the size of several superclusters) billboard to talk to him. It would be anyones guess whether it is a surprise.
Also,.. what changes in my world (as I conceive it) if I accept this doctrine of how the universe works?
If you want something that changes how you preceive the world, put on the beer goggles of Christianity.
Why should I care, and what use is it to me?
You should care because this is how the universe works. Remember, knowledge is power.
Theoretical Physicists
17-09-2006, 21:11
Fairly recently, science has found that there are minmums in the universe:a minimum length of distance, a minimum lenght of time, and a minimum mass.
Source? If you are referring to Planck units, a Planck mass is most certainly not the smallest.
Planck mass: 2.176 × 10e-8 kg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_mass
Mass of an electron: 9.109 × 10e−31 kg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron
Sonaj
17-09-2006, 21:18
*hopes it's not run on Windows*
That would be fun... The sky would turn into a bluescreen.
Minaris
17-09-2006, 21:23
That would be fun... The sky would turn into a bluescreen.

We'd be hit by a huge "Error" window to...

what if THAT was the comet that killed the dinosaurs?? :eek:
The Metal Horde
17-09-2006, 21:47
:eek:

Does that mean that... God is a Geek?

*Prepares offerings of porn software and chocolate*

Don't forget the Bawls. :D
Minaris
17-09-2006, 21:48
Don't forget the Bawls. :D

*Gets some. Strange yellow beam makes them disappear. Minaris is rewarded by becoming...

MECHA MINARIS!!! :p
The Metal Horde
17-09-2006, 21:50
*Gets some. Strange yellow beam makes them disappear. Minaris is rewarded by becoming...

MECHA MINARIS!!! :p

Damnit! I wish I was Mecha Metal Horde. :(
Minaris
17-09-2006, 21:55
Damnit! I wish I was Mecha Metal Horde. :(

*makes the situation so that The Metal Horde is transformed into his Mecha form, minus the ability to attack Mecha Minaris for 48 hours*
The Metal Horde
17-09-2006, 21:57
*makes the situation so that The Metal Horde is transformed into his Mecha form, minus the ability to attack Mecha Minaris for 48 hours*

Hell yes!
Minaris
17-09-2006, 21:58
Hell yes!

However, your Mecha form is a pink butterfly made of powdered milk and tissue paper. :p

after the 48 hours, your true Mecha form will come after being attacked.
The Metal Horde
17-09-2006, 21:59
However, your Mecha form is a pink butterfly made of powdered milk and tissue paper. :p

after the 48 hours, your true Mecha form will come after being attacked.

fuck! powedered milk?!
Minaris
17-09-2006, 22:01
fuck! powedered milk?!

Actually, it's artificial milk powder, but yes. :p

I'd run and hide for 48 hours (and then get in a fight) if I were you.

*gets fire hose*
The Metal Horde
17-09-2006, 22:02
Actually, it's artificial milk powder, but yes. :p

I'd run and hide for 48 hours (and then get in a fight) if I were you.

*gets fire hose*

Oh shit! *runs*
Damn powdered milk
Minaris
17-09-2006, 22:06
Oh shit! *runs*
Damn powdered milk

*grabs fire truck and goes to find TMH*

I'll dissolve yoU!
The Metal Horde
17-09-2006, 22:15
*grabs fire truck and goes to find TMH*

I'll dissolve yoU!

Son of a bitch! *runs faster*
*ducks underneath desk*
Posi
17-09-2006, 22:16
How dare you spam my first serious thread!
Minaris
17-09-2006, 22:17
How dare you spam my first serious thread!

*Uses hose to soak Posi. Luckily, only the shirt dissolved off.*

The Metal Horde, come out and play!

What's a matter, afraid of getting wet?
The Metal Horde
17-09-2006, 22:18
How dare you spam my first serious thread!

....he started it
Posi
17-09-2006, 22:19
....he started it
Damned noobs...
Minaris
17-09-2006, 22:21
Damned noobs...

*Prepares to fire again...*

/hijack (or is it?)

Of course, seeing as it was actually 48 NS hours (8 RL units) you will now be able to choose your true form.
The Metal Horde
17-09-2006, 22:25
*Prepares to fire again...*

/hijack (or is it?)

*runs faster* *finds cabinet to hide in* i cant take 48 hours of this!
Gorias
17-09-2006, 23:01
are we getting into quantum physics here? if so cool.
i can respound in about 3 months.
Righteous Munchee-Love
17-09-2006, 23:28
are we getting into quantum physics here? if so cool.
i can respound in about 3 months.

That's your quantum right there.
Weird shit indeed.
Barbaric Tribes
17-09-2006, 23:33
ok, honest to god dude if this were true, there would be so much sex and porn all over the place, there would be so much lag an viruses. It wouldn't even make sense... there'd be spywear everywhere wait...oh shit "spywear" big brother and the US gov wire tap...oh fuck.
Barbaric Tribes
17-09-2006, 23:36
How do you know there is no code that creates ghosts, etc...?

How is the code produced?

If the code is produced by some "programmer", then the creation of ghosts and the like would be a trivial coding exercise.

Why would the "programmer" not do fun stuff like that?

The question is, can we communicate with the programmer, and would it be any surprise to "him" if we tried to do so?

Also,.. what changes in my world (as I conceive it) if I accept this doctrine of how the universe works?

Why should I care, and what use is it to me?


-Iakeo

In turn this programer would be God would it not?
Pure Metal
17-09-2006, 23:39
The Matrix+drug of your choice=/=good.

The flashbacks! The flaassshbaaacks!

Alice In Wonderland + high = awesome :cool:
ditto + shrooms = :eek:
Posi
17-09-2006, 23:45
ok, honest to god dude if this were true, there would be so much sex and porn all over the place, there would be so much lag an viruses. It wouldn't even make sense... there'd be spywear everywhere wait...oh shit "spywear" big brother and the US gov wire tap...oh fuck.
The computer doesn't have to be connected to the internet, or on an OS that suffers from viruses.

We would never notice lag eithe, because if there were serious lag issues, our brains would lag too.
The Metal Horde
17-09-2006, 23:54
I'm thinking you're onto something here, Posi, with this whole computer thing. I am now a believer of the Church of Computerology. I shall endorse it from here on out.
Posi
17-09-2006, 23:57
I'm thinking you're onto something here, Posi, with this whole computer thing. I am now a believer of the Church of Computerology. I shall endorse it from here on out.
I'm touched.
Pyotr
18-09-2006, 00:20
this is easily the funniest thread i've ever witnessed.
Swilatia
18-09-2006, 00:25
what kind of religion is that??
Posi
18-09-2006, 00:27
what kind of religion is that??
There are kinds of religions? Splain please.
Minaris
18-09-2006, 04:36
*runs faster* *finds cabinet to hide in* i cant take 48 hours of this!

*Energy being appears in front of TMH*

Your 48 NS hours have long been up. You may now choose your true Mecha form...
New Domici
18-09-2006, 05:05
*hopes it's not run on Windows*

Why do you think Bush won two elections? It's a virus.
Wilgrove
18-09-2006, 06:34
If your theory is true Posi, then what are Agents?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/ff/Matrix_Agents_(Second_Generaton).jpg/550px-Matrix_Agents_(Second_Generaton).jpg
Posi
18-09-2006, 09:38
If your theory is true Posi, then what are Agents?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/ff/Matrix_Agents_(Second_Generaton).jpg/550px-Matrix_Agents_(Second_Generaton).jpg
That's just a movie silly.:p
Wilgrove
18-09-2006, 14:41
That's just a movie silly.:p

Yea, but wouldn't the Programmer need some form of programs to keep his creation in line and make sure they don't find out the truth? I mean who do you think killed Jesus, Martin Luthur King Jr., Ghandi, and JFK?
Posi
18-09-2006, 21:15
Yea, but wouldn't the Programmer need some form of programs to keep his creation in line and make sure they don't find out the truth? I mean who do you think killed Jesus, Martin Luthur King Jr., Ghandi, and JFK?
The British?

But that is a good question, but one we would never figure out. If they are as good as they are in the movie, they would be too seemless for us to discover.
Minaris
18-09-2006, 21:37
well, the crap in my house always disappears... maybe...

Nah!
Wilgrove
19-09-2006, 03:04
well, the crap in my house always disappears... maybe...

Nah!

Eh you never know, even the Programmer has bugs in this world of ours.
Wilgrove
19-09-2006, 03:14
The British?

But that is a good question, but one we would never figure out. If they are as good as they are in the movie, they would be too seemless for us to discover.

Also, as to the Agents, let's just assume that your theory is correct, and so is mine, that there are programs like the ones in the movie that keeps order in our reality. If these programs were to maintain order in our reality, and keep us from knowing the truth, then it would be logical that the Programmer gave them special abilities. Let's look at the JFK assination through the scope of both of our theories. Let us assume that JFK knows the truth. Now the programmer would know that he knows, but to just delete him (dissapearance) would be questionable and make us more aware of our reality, so the programmer must use assination to keep the cover up. Now as I said, the programmers has agents that have been given special abilities (they can bend the rules in our reality because of their codes) to carry our their mission. It would not be too far of a fetch to say that an Agent took control of Oswald body and kill JFK. However, to explain Ruby, well assuming Oswald saw the agent before he had a chance to leave. So another Agent takes control of Ruby and kill Oswald.

In order to complete their missions, Agents would have to be VERY good at their missions and they are.

Agents could also explain those people who saw UFO and then are visited by the men in black.
Posi
21-09-2006, 03:55
Also, as to the Agents, let's just assume that your theory is correct, and so is mine, that there are programs like the ones in the movie that keeps order in our reality. If these programs were to maintain order in our reality, and keep us from knowing the truth, then it would be logical that the Programmer gave them special abilities. Let's look at the JFK assination through the scope of both of our theories. Let us assume that JFK knows the truth. Now the programmer would know that he knows, but to just delete him (dissapearance) would be questionable and make us more aware of our reality, so the programmer must use assination to keep the cover up. Now as I said, the programmers has agents that have been given special abilities (they can bend the rules in our reality because of their codes) to carry our their mission. It would not be too far of a fetch to say that an Agent took control of Oswald body and kill JFK. However, to explain Ruby, well assuming Oswald saw the agent before he had a chance to leave. So another Agent takes control of Ruby and kill Oswald.

In order to complete their missions, Agents would have to be VERY good at their missions and they are.

Agents could also explain those people who saw UFO and then are visited by the men in black.
The agents wouldn't need to assassinate JFK. They could just make him disappear and make Fox News blame teh muslims.
Wilgrove
21-09-2006, 04:46
The agents wouldn't need to assassinate JFK. They could just make him disappear and make Fox News blame teh muslims.

Eh even that would be suspectable. People are more willing to believe an assassination than a kidnapping, espically the most powerful man in this reality.
Sheni
25-09-2006, 03:05
I'd like to point out that nobody ever said that the programmer didn't want us to know it exists.
Posi
25-09-2006, 03:42
I'd like to point out that nobody ever said that the programmer didn't want us to know it exists.
People like to assume he doesn't. Computerology doesn't mention it because we have know clues that would lead us to believe on way or the other.
Iztatepopotla
25-09-2006, 03:45
People like to assume he doesn't. Computerology doesn't mention it because we have know clues that would lead us to believe on way or the other.

Besides, if the programmer went and said to everyone "hey, here I am! did you like that new quantum gravity subroutine?", what fun would that be?
Wilgrove
25-09-2006, 05:53
I'd like to point out that nobody ever said that the programmer didn't want us to know it exists.

If The Programmer didn't want us to know, then how come he haven't tried to communicate with us?
Posi
25-09-2006, 05:55
If The Programmer didn't want us to know, then how come he haven't tried to communicate with us?
Because that would make us dependant on him the same way that welfare makes people dependant on the government.
IL Ruffino
25-09-2006, 06:16
If The Programmer didn't want us to know, then how come he haven't tried to communicate with us?

The sign is still in beta.
Posi
25-09-2006, 06:19
The sign is still in beta.
Which is why it worked for me, and not everyone else. I wonder how many people though I was serious?
IL Ruffino
25-09-2006, 06:21
Which is why it worked for me, and not everyone else. I wonder how many people though I was serious?

Exactly. I did.. =(
Posi
25-09-2006, 06:23
Exactly. I did.. =(
Indeed. I though you of all people would have seen through it.
IL Ruffino
25-09-2006, 06:26
Indeed. I though you of all people would have seen through it.

Quite. But, you are--my friend. *makes fist and lightly taps heart* I believe in you, man.
Posi
25-09-2006, 06:30
Quite. But, you are--my friend. *makes fist and lightly taps heart* I believe in you, man.
OMG. You are as old as me but have 3x the posts.:eek:
IL Ruffino
25-09-2006, 06:32
OMG. You are as old as me but have 3x the posts.:eek:

Lol..

Where'd that come from?!

:eek:
Posi
25-09-2006, 06:35
Lol..

Where'd that come from?!

:eek:

I'm not even stoned.
IL Ruffino
25-09-2006, 06:41
I'm not even stoned.

For realz?
Posi
25-09-2006, 06:42
For realz?

Fo sho
IL Ruffino
25-09-2006, 06:48
Fo sho

Dayem.
Posi
25-09-2006, 06:49
Dayem.
O RLY?
IL Ruffino
25-09-2006, 06:53
O RLY?

:D
Posi
25-09-2006, 06:56
:D

WTF?
IL Ruffino
25-09-2006, 07:11
WTF?

:confused:

Aye?
Posi
25-09-2006, 07:12
:confused:

Aye?

Did she eat the owl? That would be a sweet pick...
IL Ruffino
25-09-2006, 07:14
Did she eat the owl? That would be a sweet pick...

Oh my computer aided diety!!

No!!
Posi
25-09-2006, 07:23
Oh my computer aided diety!!

No!!

Why not?
IL Ruffino
25-09-2006, 07:33
Why not?

Because.. it's.. blah.
Posi
25-09-2006, 20:27
Because.. it's.. blah.

Blah is not on adjective!
IL Ruffino
25-09-2006, 20:43
Blah is not on adjective!

LIES!
Wilgrove
26-09-2006, 00:12
LIES!

LIES AND SLANDER!
German Nightmare
26-09-2006, 00:28
Saw the thread just now, read the OP, thought of the matrix, prepared to make matrix jokes, and...

Whoa, I know Kung Fu.

There is no spoon, only spork.

DAYS too late!

Good job!
Posi
26-09-2006, 03:09
Saw the thread just now, read the OP, thought of the matrix, prepared to make matrix jokes, and...





DAYS too late!

Good job!
You seem to think this is some kind of sick joke.