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I don't like muslims. I don't care what you say. My will does not like muslims, and I shall not question it. I don't like liberals or communist. I do not question my will. You know what? Don't bother debating with me. 'Cause you know what? I don't care. Even if your argument is so good that it shatters worlds, I don't care, because my will will not waiver. Capeesh?

Denial is the first stage on the path to Acceptance. :D

And the point to this is.............

I don't like muslims. I don't care what you say. My will does not like muslims, and I shall not question it. I don't like liberals or communist. I do not question my will. You know what? Don't bother debating with me. 'Cause you know what? I don't care. Even if your argument is so good that it shatters worlds, I don't care, because my will will not waiver. Capeesh?

This is the thought process of murderers and Nazis and people lacking the ability of critical thought and compassion. Sad.

*sits back, starts roasting marshmallows*

I don't like muslims. I don't care what you say. My will does not like muslims, and I shall not question it. I don't like liberals or communist. I do not question my will. You know what? Don't bother debating with me. 'Cause you know what? I don't care. Even if your argument is so good that it shatters worlds, I don't care, because my will will not waiver. Capeesh?

Good for you, keep your mind closed. If you shut your eyes & pretend nothing's happening, then that must be the case. :rolleyes:

This is the thought process of murderers and Nazis and people lacking the ability of critical thought and compassion. Sad.

Compassion is for the weak.

This is the thought process of murderers and Nazis and people lacking the ability of critical thought and compassion. Sad.

While I agree with you that this type of thinking is disgusting, I disagree with the rest. Nazis systematically justified genocide in small steps, over a course of years. The throught process in question is MUCH too lazy for that. While it is still hateful, it is a follower's hate, not the hate of an organizer nor even that of a typical person I think.

Or maybeit is typical, and I have too much faith in humanity.

Good for you, keep your mind closed. If you shut your eyes & pretend nothing's happening, then that must be the case. :rolleyes:

I don't pretend that nothing's happening. But I acknowledge that my subconcious has infinitely greater and more powerful than my conscious self.

I don't like muslims. I don't care what you say. My will does not like muslims, and I shall not question it. I don't like liberals or communist. I do not question my will. You know what? Don't bother debating with me. 'Cause you know what? I don't care. Even if your argument is so good that it shatters worlds, I don't care, because my will will not waiver. Capeesh?

Have fun with all that hatred; I hate you too. Just another person choosing to hate me because I believe in a responsible government...sheeeeeesh.

I don't like muslims. I don't care what you say. My will does not like muslims, and I shall not question it. I don't like liberals or communist. I do not question my will. You know what? Don't bother debating with me. 'Cause you know what? I don't care. Even if your argument is so good that it shatters worlds, I don't care, because my will will not waiver. Capeesh?

There you go! Embrace your inner dumbass! Speak to your inner dumbass! Hold it close to you and LOVE your inner dumbass!

Logic, facts, and all that nonsense? Meh... They have a liberal bias. Hate... Now there's the thing! To catch the "nature" of a thing....

Compassion is for the weak.

No, compassion is for the smart.

And since when were you and your 'will' two seperate enteties?

Is Will your imaginary friend?

I don't like muslims. I don't care what you say. My will does not like muslims, and I shall not question it. I don't like liberals or communist. I do not question my will. You know what? Don't bother debating with me. 'Cause you know what? I don't care. Even if your argument is so good that it shatters worlds, I don't care, because my will will not waiver. Capeesh?

In other words:

I an closed minded, I like being close minded don't even attempt to free my ind, as I quite like being ignorant.

Fair doos then, each to their own I guess. Ohh shit Perhaps I shouldn't have said that, now I'm gonna get called liberal and you'll not talk to me:rolleyes:

Wow... just when you thought humans couldn't sink any lower.

My will says that you be ignored, or possibly have your computer and door confiscated so that you cannot interact with the world.

No, compassion is for the smart.

And since when were you and your 'will' two seperate enteties?

There's a difference between conscious and subconscious; I'm simply letting the sub take control.

No, compassion is for the smart.

And since when were you and your 'will' two seperate enteties?

Hehe and I always thought that compassionms was for the, well compassionate?

Wow... just when you thought humans couldn't sink any lower.

My will says that you be ignored, or possibly have your computer and door confiscated so that you cannot interact with the world.

It's easier to defend myself when I don't think as much.

This is the thought process of murderers and Nazis and people lacking the ability of critical thought and compassion. Sad.

And our President.

The accounts of people who discussed the Iraq invasion before hand have him saying things like
"I know Saddam has WMD's."
"How? All the weapons inspectors say he doesn't."
"Faith."

Or the story Joe Biden told in Real Time with Bill Maher when he was asked where he went after signing the order to invade Iraq.
"I had just signed and order that brought our nation to war. I went to pray."
"He doesn't pray beforehand for the sense to do what's right. He does what he wants and then prays afterwards that he's right."

There's a difference between conscious and subconscious; I'm simply letting the sub take control.

Ah. So you're admitting you're on par with, say, animals, in that your conscious mind is unable to reign in it's sub counterpart? Congrats to you.

It's easier to defend myself when I don't think as much.

I'll have to remind the confiscators to bring cattle prods.

There's a difference between conscious and subconscious; I'm simply letting the sub take control.

That's not your will. Will means that you overcome things, including your bestial conditioning.

In attempting to surrender all thoughts to your subconcious, you are in fact becoming subhuman by your own choice.

There's a difference between conscious and subconscious; I'm simply letting the sub take control.

So...basiclly, you're giving up your ability to make conciouse desicions by letting some "Entity" in your mind tell you to be a closed-minded racist?

I'd rather be a member of the living dead than a subconcious zombie. At least you can eat brains.

And our President.

The accounts of people who discussed the Iraq invasion before hand have him saying things like
"I know Saddam has WMD's."
"How? All the weapons inspectors say he doesn't."
"Faith."

Or the story Joe Biden told in Real Time with Bill Maher when he was asked where he went after signing the order to invade Iraq.
"I had just signed and order that brought our nation to war. I went to pray."
"He doesn't pray beforehand for the sense to do what's right. He does what he wants and then prays afterwards that he's right."

Faith has nothing to do with the will.

That's not your will. Will means that you overcome things, including your bestial conditioning.

My subconscious' will, then.

In attempting to surrender all thoughts to your subconcious, you are in fact becoming subhuman by your own choice.

Good. It's not a very good species anyhow.

Ah. So you're admitting you're on par with, say, animals, in that your conscious mind is unable to reign in it's sub counterpart? Congrats to you.

Hmm, because humans aren't animals, right?

Well, I suppose we could try euthanasia. *shrug*

So...basiclly, you're giving up your ability to make conciouse desicions by letting some "Entity" in your mind tell you to be a closed-minded racist?

In a sense. I do as I feel, not as I think.

Hmm, because humans aren't animals, right?

Humans are animals with a greatly increased mental capacity and ability to think beyond instincts. That is what makes us different from other species, and a thing you are giving up.

Hmm, because humans aren't animals, right?

Speaking from a biological standpoint, yes, we are part of the animal kingdom. Speaking from a practical standpoint, humans are indeed seperated from the general term 'animal'

Perhaps I should have said 'beast of the wild'?

Well, I suppose we could try euthanasia. *shrug*

Why?

Why?

If nothing else works, what else is left?

Humans are animals with a greatly increased mental capacity and ability to think beyond instincts. That is what makes us different from other species, and a thing you are giving up.

Free thought leads to suffering. It is a good thing to give up.

In a sense. I do as I feel, not as I think.

So...can I kill your family and claim an entity in my subconsious made me do it? It wouldn't be my fault; I was just following what I was told to do. According to you, thinking is overrated anyways.

If nothing else works, what else is left?

I still work.

God how I've missed Kievan Prussia

Free thought leads to suffering. It is a good thing to give up.

Hmm.

Are you a communist?

No... no sense of the community anywhere here...

How about a technophobe? Are you a technophobe?

Free thought leads to suffering. It is a good thing to give up.

A lack of free thought leads to enslavement, ignorance, arrogance, and stupidity. At least you can attepmt to avoid suffering with a free will.

I don't like muslims. I don't care what you say. My will does not like muslims, and I shall not question it. I don't like liberals or communist. I do not question my will. You know what? Don't bother debating with me. 'Cause you know what? I don't care. Even if your argument is so good that it shatters worlds, I don't care, because my will will not waiver. Capeesh?

If you're not looking for debatte on the subject, why post it in an internet forum?

So...can I kill your family and claim an entity in my subconsious made me do it? It wouldn't be my fault; I was just following what I was told to do. According to you, thinking is overrated anyways.

I never said it wouldn't be your fault.

In Freudian terms, the best way to describe this is giving much more influence to the id.

If you're not looking for debatte on the subject, why post it in an internet forum?
Because acting that emo in real life will get him beaten up during recess.


/wrists

A lack of free thought leads to enslavement, ignorance, arrogance, and stupidity. At least you can attepmt to avoid suffering with a free will.

A lack of free thought leads to a lack of tolerance for suffering.

Because acting that emo in real life will get him beaten up during recess.


/wrists


I'm not an emo. Emos are pathetic.

A lack of free thought leads to a lack of tolerance for suffering.

Er...

Logic? Now, I'm no psychologist, but as I understand it, your subconscious is concerned with protecting you, yes?

However, in a situation where you are opressed, there's a pretty good bet that it either A) won't be blatant enough for your subconscious to notice (Dana Lyons songs aside when have you seen cows revolt?) or B) Will be to much for your subconcious to overthrow on it's own. (A cow could kick someone, for example, but then along comes someone else and shoots the cow.)

I don't like muslims. I don't care what you say. My will does not like muslims, and I shall not question it. I don't like liberals or communist. I do not question my will. You know what? Don't bother debating with me. 'Cause you know what? I don't care. Even if your argument is so good that it shatters worlds, I don't care, because my will will not waiver. Capeesh?

Why sprout the thought from your closed mind then?

seriously :)

Know what? I have no problem with this.

Not that I endorse hatred for Muslims, not that I endorse the idea of refusing to be flexible in a discussion.

It's because half the people who enter into debates like this feel exactly the way Potato Factory does, only they're not honest enough with themselves or the rest of us to admit it. You may not like what Potato Factory is saying, and I certainly don't agree, but I respect the honesty here.

I'm not an emo. Emos are pathetic.

"Hey if it quacks like a duck, it looks like a duck then it's a duck"

Er...

Logic? Now, I'm no psychologist, but as I understand it, your subconscious is concerned with protecting you, yes?

However, in a situation where you are opressed, there's a pretty good bet that it either A) won't be blatant enough for your subconscious to notice (Dana Lyons songs aside when have you seen cows revolt?) or B) Will be to much for your subconcious to overthrow on it's own. (A cow could kick someone, for example, but then along comes someone else and shoots the cow.)

My subconscious thinks and does everything my conscious would never do. That why it is a better defender of me than the conscious.

A lack of free thought leads to a lack of tolerance for suffering.

...What?

I feel that you're using circular logic here-or mabey no logic at all. Are you saying you, right at this moment, wouldn't mind a bit if I came to your house, tourtured you for hours, killed your love ones, broke your back, and threw you in a river?

If you can tolerate that, then I'm impressed.

Know what? I have no problem with this.

Not that I endorse hatred for Muslims, not that I endorse the idea of refusing to be flexible in a discussion.

It's because half the people who enter into debates like this feel exactly the way Potato Factory does, only they're not honest enough with themselves or the rest of us to admit it. You may not like what Potato Factory is saying, and I certainly don't agree, but I respect the honesty here.

People expect me to justify my opinions. Screw them. I don't have any arguments or evidence or crap like that.. I just don't like certain groups and beliefs, because something inside tells me to, and from now on, I'm going to listen to it.

Because acting that emo in real life will get him beaten up during recess.


/wrists


*lol And he knows it'll get him verbally beaten up here. He must be a bit of a masochist

Free thought leads to suffering. It is a good thing to give up.

Yeah... thinking for yourself can be such a pain in the ass. Best to let someone else think for you.

If you're not looking for debatte on the subject, why post it in an internet forum?

I love your way of reasoning, concrete and simple, but devastating. Can you be my new sister? *highfives*

Remember that from time to time, smelling, furry monsters emerge from beneath bridges and beg or threat for food to the Nationstates General comunity. Seems to me that he is another case of attack from said mythological creatures.

People around here still love to toss the occasional treat to them. I guess that's how they survive.

Wait a minute...

This might all make sense if we consider your Asperger post earlier; is it really Asperger or PDDNOS?

It is all about routine and stability, right?

no offence meant :)

...What?

I feel that you're using circular logic here-or mabey no logic at all. Are you saying you, right at this moment, wouldn't mind a bit if I came to your house, tourtured you for hours, killed your love ones, broke your back, and threw you in a river?

If you can tolerate that, then I'm impressed.

Where are you getting this from? The subconcious doesn't like that, and would fight it to the death. The conscious would cower in the corner. Which is worth more?

My subconscious thinks and does everything my conscious would never do. That why it is a better defender of me than the conscious.

Everything your conscious would never do? But you haven't jumped off of a cliff yet. Or slit your wrists. Or...

See what I mean?

Anyways, you haven't answered the question of what would happen if the oppression was not blatant enough for your subconcious to recognize it, and/or was extreme enough that when you started smacking around and opressor, you simply got shot.

Wait a minute...

This might all make sense if we consider your Asperger post earlier; is it really Asperger or PDDNOS?

It is all about routine and stability, right?

no offence meant :)

Asperger's runs in my family.

Where are you getting this from? The subconcious doesn't like that, and would fight it to the death. The conscious would cower in the corner. Which is worth more?

Okay. Let me put it this way.

The conscious mind was the main step in developing technology, yes or no?

Everything your conscious would never do? But you haven't jumped off of a cliff yet. Or slit your wrists. Or...

See what I mean?

Anyways, you haven't answered the question of what would happen if the oppression was not blatant enough for your subconcious to recognize it, and/or was extreme enough that when you started smacking around and opressor, you simply got shot.

Why would the oppression be not blatant enough for the sub to recognise it? The sub recognises just as much as the conscious.

And why would the sub kill itself? How is that beneficial?

There's a difference between conscious and subconscious; I'm simply letting the sub take control.


Heheh so you are conciously letting your subconciouse take contorl huh. How is then that you are writting here sunconsciously?

Why would the oppression be not blatant enough for the sub to recognise it? The sub recognises just as much as the conscious.

And why would the sub kill itself? How is that beneficial?

Do cattle recognize that they are oppresed?

As for why would the sub kill itself, you never said everything beneficial. You said it would do everything your conscious would never do.

Okay. Let me put it this way.

The conscious mind was the main step in developing technology, yes or no?

So? I don't want to do anything great. I want to follow. Nothing in this world is worth following except myself. So I listen to my id.

"And that brings us to tonight's word: Truthiness.

Now I'm sure some of the word-police, the "wordanistas" over at Websters, are gonna say, "Hey, that's not a word!" Well, anybody who knows me knows that I am no fan of dictionaries or reference books. They're elitist. Constantly telling us what is or isn't true, what did or didn't happen.

Who's Britannica to tell me the Panama Canal was finished in 1914? If I want to say it happened in 1941, that's my right.

I don't trust books. They're all fact, no heart. And that's exactly what's pulling our country apart today. Because face it, folks, we are a divided nation. Not between Democrats or Republicans, or conservatives and liberals, or tops and bottoms. No, we are divided by those who think with their head, and those who know with their heart.

Consider Harriett Miers. If you think about Harriett Miers, of course her nomination's absurd! But the President didn't say he thought about his selection, he said this:

President Bush: "I know her heart."

Notice how he said nothing about her brain? He didn't have to. He feels the truth about Harriett Miers. And what about Iraq? If you think about it, maybe there are a few missing pieces to the rationale for war. But doesn't taking Saddam out feel like the right thing...right here in the gut? Because that's where the truth comes from, ladies and gentlemen...the gut.

Did you know that you have more nerve endings in your stomach than in your head? Look it up. Now, somebody's gonna say "I did look that up and its wrong." Well, Mister, that's because you looked it up in a book. Next time, try looking it up in your gut. I did. And my gut tells me that's how our nervous system works.

Now I know some of you may not trust your gut...yet. But with my help you will. The "truthiness" is, anyone can read the news to you. I promise to feel the news...at you."

-- Stephen Colbert

I think The Potato Factory just got up to 2005 in his Word of the Year Calendar...

So? I don't want to do anything great. I want to follow. Nothing in this world is worth following except myself. So I listen to my id.
Okay. So without conscious thought no technology. Agreed?

Potato Factory, are you sure this isn't just the Asperger's talking here?

Heheh so you are conciously letting your subconciouse take contorl huh. How is then that you are writting here sunconsciously?

Subconscious isn't a very good word for it. Id is closer to what I mean.

I love your way of reasoning, concrete and simple, but devastating. Can you be my new sister? *highfives*

Remember that from time to time, smelling, furry monsters emerge from beneath bridges and beg or threat for food to the Nationstates General comunity. Seems to me that he is another case of attack from said mythological creatures.

People around here still love to toss the occasional treat to them. I guess that's how they survive.

I always wanted a sister :D

Yep, I have to agree I somehow sometimes enjoy to feed this particular troll.

Oh, and in a side note...

Let me ask you a question...You have a lot of sexual desire, right?, like any other human. I guess you get sexually aroused by several men or women on a daily basis. I am pretty sure that your instincts and your will commands you to have sexual intercourse, with or without consent. Do you rape said people?

No, because if you do, you would be in a mental institution and not sitting in front of your computer. Stop saying that you obey no careful and high thinking, you do it every day.

In a sense. I do as I feel, not as I think.

Ahhh thats the old Satanist line that is, and their wrong as well.

Okay. So without conscious thought no technology. Agreed?

Sure, whatever.

Asperger's runs in my family.

In this case we should not try to change your views for it will only make you uncomfortable, right?

perhaps you may only want a place to rant...

Still, you would want some occasional feedback, or are you happy to be ignored.

(no sarcasm :) )

Where are you getting this from? The subconcious doesn't like that, and would fight it to the death. The conscious would cower in the corner. Which is worth more?


Well, no. The subconscious would fight to the death. And be dead.

The conscious would consider the question, and say "No, please don't come to my house and torture and kill me." Then the conscious would consider better alternatives, find a way to diffuse or avoid the situation and live happily ever after.

Conscious is active, subconscious is reactive.

Potato Factory, are you sure this isn't just the Asperger's talking here?

Probably. It's a good point, actually. How can I listen to "neurotypicals", as they're called?

I always wanted a sister :D

Yep, I have to agree I somehow sometimes enjoy to feed this particular troll.

Well, when they are as easier to feed and lash as this one, yes, it is enjoyable...Almost as going into the "contact farm" of the zoo.

Oh, and in a side note...

Let me ask you a question...You have a lot of sexual desire, right?, like any other human. I guess you get sexually aroused by several men or women on a daily basis. I am pretty sure that your instincts and your will commands you to have sexual intercourse, with or without consent. Do you rape said people?

Whoa, let's just slow down for a minute there.

Are you actually saying that you think a typical person will experience impulses to commit rape, but they refrain from doing so through conscious thought?

That's fucking disturbing, dude.

Oh, and in a side note...

Let me ask you a question...You have a lot of sexual desire, right?, like any other human. I guess you get sexually aroused by several men or women on a daily basis. I am pretty sure that your instincts and your will commands you to have sexual intercourse, with or without consent. Do you rape said people?

No, because if you do, you would be in a mental institution and not sitting in front of your computer. Stop saying that you obey no careful and high thinking, you do it every day.

Then what the hell do I have? I have a part of me that says "Fuck everyone, I'm right because I say so." What the hell is that?

I'm not an emo. Emos are pathetic.

I'm confused now, which part of your brain makes you think that? Coz that sounds like a rationalised idea to me, which means it is your conciousense and higher brain functions doing it, which makes you....... Ohhhhh My gosh, a liar!:eek:

Probably. It's a good point, actually. How can I listen to "neurotypicals", as they're called?

I wouldn't know, I just remember your thread yesterday about having an attack. You seemed fairly bummed over that and I was wondering whether this wasn't a continuation. I don't recall you being quite so bleak and nihilistic before this.

Then what the hell do I have? I have a part of me that says "Fuck everyone, I'm right because I say so." What the hell is that?

Sociopathic.

There you go! Embrace your inner dumbass! Speak to your inner dumbass! Hold it close to you and LOVE your inner dumbass!

Logic, facts, and all that nonsense? Meh... They have a liberal bias. Hate... Now there's the thing! To catch the "nature" of a thing....

Reality has a well know liberal bias dont you know :)

It's easier to defend myself when I don't think as much.

lol this one is great!
"i'm gonna let myself be ruled by my subconcious fear cos then i can be paranoid, bigoted and fearful without having to explain myself...yay!" :rolleyes: :p

Know what? I have no problem with this.

Not that I endorse hatred for Muslims, not that I endorse the idea of refusing to be flexible in a discussion.

It's because half the people who enter into debates like this feel exactly the way Potato Factory does, only they're not honest enough with themselves or the rest of us to admit it. You may not like what Potato Factory is saying, and I certainly don't agree, but I respect the honesty here.


I can agree with you, I respect his honesty, it is his stupidity that makes me laugh.

In this case we should not try to change your views for it will only make you uncomfortable, right?

perhaps you may only want a place to rant...

Still, you would want some occasional feedback, or are you happy to be ignored.

(no sarcasm :) )

YES. I want people to accept my views, and stop bugging me with their PC CRAP. BECAUSE I DON'T CARE. THIS IS HOW I FEEL, AND I WILL NEVER, EVER CHANGE.

This wasn't what Bruce Lee meant.

"Hey if it quacks like a duck, it looks like a duck then it's a duck"

Umm unless it's A Witch!:eek:

BECAUSE I DON'T CARE. THIS IS HOW I FEEL, AND I WILL NEVER, EVER CHANGE.

Ah the perpetual whine of the teenager

YES. I want people to accept my views, and stop bugging me with their PC CRAP. BECAUSE I DON'T CARE. THIS IS HOW I FEEL, AND I WILL NEVER, EVER CHANGE.

Then why come to a debate forum? What is the entertainment for you? I mean I personally come here to discuss and re-evaluate all sorts of my beliefs. I have most defiantly changed through age and gaining more knowledge, in part because of these forums.

If you don’t wish to debate, nor do you wish to change or to learn why are you here?

If you don’t wish to debate, nor do you wish to change or to learn why are you here?

I DON'T KNOW. To talk. Boredom. Obsession.

I love your way of reasoning, concrete and simple, but devastating. Can you be my new sister? *highfives*

Remember that from time to time, smelling, furry monsters emerge from beneath bridges and beg or threat for food to the Nationstates General comunity. Seems to me that he is another case of attack from said mythological creatures.

People around here still love to toss the occasional treat to them. I guess that's how they survive.

I think it's part of a process of ellimnation, if we could only draw them all out into the open, then we could just off the lot of them at the same time. Unfourtunalty they appear to be solitary creatures.

YES. I want people to accept my views, and stop bugging me with their PC CRAP. BECAUSE I DON'T CARE. THIS IS HOW I FEEL, AND I WILL NEVER, EVER CHANGE.

*pats the troll*

(so you're fed up of people beating your arguements and are resorting to not thinking at all so that you have an excuse not to argue or listen to other people's arguements any more? hmm. sounds like giving up to me)

Ah the perpetual whine of the teenager

IT'S THE FUCKING SYNDROME! If I wasn't so scared of pain, I'd get a knife and cut it out of my head. Why can't I BE NORMAL?

Then why come to a debate forum? What is the entertainment for you? I mean I personally come here to discuss and re-evaluate all sorts of my beliefs. I have most defiantly changed through age and gaining more knowledge, in part because of these forums.

If you don’t wish to debate, nor do you wish to change or to learn why are you here?

Probably the Asperger acting up again. Boy needs to be medicated like a bull elephant.

Probably the Asperger acting up again. Boy needs to be medicated like a bull elephant.

You say that in jest, I suspect, but it's true.

YES. I want people to accept my views, and stop bugging me with their PC CRAP. BECAUSE I DON'T CARE. THIS IS HOW I FEEL, AND I WILL NEVER, EVER CHANGE.

Ok. I accept that your views are YOURS. I don't accept them as useful or good, but they are yours and you are entitled to them.

I am sorry that you are so sad and confused and isolated that you feel the need to spew this sort of thing here, (in a place where you KNOW you are going to get a lot of "bugging" about it) rather than to someone in your real life who might know you better and be able to help you deal with these feelings, or rather than simply having your feelings and keeping them private.

You had to know, going into this, that the crowd around here was not going to validate your views. We will (because we are liberals, in large part) validate your right to your views, but not the views themselves. I hope that is enough for you.

IT'S THE FUCKING SYNDROME! If I wasn't so scared of pain, I'd get a knife and cut it out of my head. Why can't I BE NORMAL?

Because life blows sometimes … I don’t have a medical syndrome but my past fucks with me every day of my life

I at least sort of know what a daily struggle life can be

Whoa, let's just slow down for a minute there.

Are you actually saying that you think a typical person will experience impulses to commit rape, but they refrain from doing so through conscious thought?

That's fucking disturbing, dude.

Dude? funny...

A typical person experiences fierce attraction to several people during normal life. They have the impulse first, without regard if the person in front of them would give her/his consent, but they reprise it, usually not even realizing they do it. It's normal and happen to everybody, if you find it disturbing, well, welcome to the human mind.

If you claim to fall entirely into your impulses, then you would act accordingly to them, including trying to have intercourse with someone who you find attractive without finding consent first. It's what dogs do, for example. Haven't you seen a dog trying to mount a female before finding if she wants him or not?

If you're not looking for debatte on the subject, why post it in an internet forum?

I see you still haven't answered this....

IT'S THE FUCKING SYNDROME! If I wasn't so scared of pain, I'd get a knife and cut it out of my head. Why can't I BE NORMAL?
Because life isn't fair.

Sorry.

There are lots of people who will try to tell you that normal is just a construct, or that normal is over-rated, or that you're SPECIAL and that means that you're better than normal.

You know, and I know, that those people are full of shit. Normal is real, and normal is a whole lot easier than not-normal. It goddam well sucks when something inside you is wonky, because you don't get a choice.

Honestly, go right ahead and be pissed off about it. You're right to feel that way.

What you gotta do, though, is figure out how to be pissed off without embarassing yourself. Running around bitching about Teh Muzlims is just going to be one more thing you feel silly about in the future. Find creative ways to express your anger, instead using the same boring racism, sexism, and xenophobia as everybody else.

IT'S THE FUCKING SYNDROME! If I wasn't so scared of pain, I'd get a knife and cut it out of my head. Why can't I BE NORMAL?

And why muslims have to pay the consequences of your mental illness? Go and find your therapist, the pills and go to sleep. Tell your mom to give you a good night kiss, too.

Dude? funny...

A typical person experiences fierce attraction to several people during normal life. They have the impulse first, without regard if the person in front of them would give her/his consent, but they reprise it, usually not even realizing they do it. It's normal and happen to everybody, if you find it disturbing, well, welcome to the human mind.

If you claim to fall entirely into your impulses, then you would act accordingly to them, including trying to have intercourse with someone who you find attractive without finding consent first. It's what dogs do, for example. Haven't you seen a dog trying to mount a female before finding if she wants him or not?

the ID is a scary thing...
*goes to watch Forbidden Planet again*

And why muslims have to pay the consequences of your mental illness? Go and find your therapist, the pills and go to sleep. Tell your mom to give you a good night kiss, too.

You never cease to crack me up, Aelosia. :D

Fuck you.


http://www.p0stwh0res.com/images/birgittroll01.gif

EDIT: Nice try, but you deleted it after I quoted you. :p

Fuck you.

So nice. You're going to do it in any case.

When I was young, I loved to play with caged animals, and watch their rage. I should have grown up, but looks like that child in me still lives on.

You wish, I do not engage sexual intercourse with such mental unstable subjects as yourself. Keep that attitude and you will doomed to eternal solitude.

Oh, sorry, you are doomed anyway. Good luck with that.

Dude? funny...

A typical person experiences fierce attraction to several people during normal life. They have the impulse first, without regard if the person in front of them would give her/his consent, but they reprise it, usually not even realizing they do it. It's normal and happen to everybody, if you find it disturbing, well, welcome to the human mind.
I dunno about that. I think, with most people, the initial impulse or fantasy INCLUDES the assumption that the other person is consenting.

If I see a hot guy or girl, I may think to myself, "Boy, I'd sure like to have some sex with them." However, "sex" carries the automatic assumption of consent, because non-consenting sexual contact is rape and rape turns me off bigtime.


If you claim to fall entirely into your impulses, then you would act accordingly to them, including trying to have intercourse with someone who you find attractive without finding consent first.

Absolutely not. I experience the impulse to have sex, sure, and I experience the impulse to have sex with people all the time, but I NEVER experience the impulse to have sex with somebody who does not want to have sex with me. My impulse might be to initiate sexual contact, but the moment the other party rejected my advances I would cease to have any impulse to continue.

Maybe it's a nitpick, but I think your example would have made more sense if you had said, "You don't go around hitting on every hottie you see, right?"


It's what dogs do, for example. Haven't you seen a dog trying to mount a female before finding if she wants him or not?Sure. I've also seen a dog try to mount my leg, a couch, and a house plant.

I don't experience any impulse to hump people's legs, couches, or house plants. Why should I assume that a dog's impulses will equate to my own?

You never cease to crack me up, Aelosia. :D

Thanks, you always being such a pleasant gentleman.

Did you see the lightning edit?

Remorse and repent are also high thoughts. Looks like he is betraying his will again.

Fuck you.

You are crying for help in the wrong place. Go see a therapist. Talk to a live person who is able to help you. Pissing here is only going to get you kicked out eventually.

So nice. You're going to do it in any case.

When I was young, I loved to play with caged animals, and watch their rage. I should have grown up, but looks like that child in me still lives on.

You wish, I do not engage sexual intercourse with such mental unstable subjects as yourself. Keep that attitude and you will doomed to eternal solitude.

Oh, sorry, you are doomed anyway. Good luck with that.

On the forum that is called baiting I believe

I dunno about that. I think, with most people, the initial impulse or fantasy INCLUDES the assumption that the other person is consenting.

If I see a hot guy or girl, I may think to myself, "Boy, I'd sure like to have some sex with them." However, "sex" carries the automatic assumption of consent, because non-consenting sexual contact is rape and rape turns me off bigtime.

Are you assuming that rape turns me on big time?

However, you feel the impulse before finding out, and then you rationalize. The rationalize part is the one I am all about.


Absolutely not. I experience the impulse to have sex, sure, and I experience the impulse to have sex with people all the time, but I NEVER experience the impulse to have sex with somebody who does not want to have sex with me. My impulse might be to initiate sexual contact, but the moment the other party rejected my advances I would cease to have any impulse to continue.

Maybe it's a nitpick, but I think your example would have made more sense if you had said, "You don't go around hitting on every hottie you see, right?"

If it works for you in that way, no problem, I can rephrase. My point still stands, although.


Sure. I've also seen a dog try to mount my leg, a couch, and a house plant.

I don't experience any impulse to hump people's legs, couches, or house plants. Why should I assume that a dog's impulses will equate to my own?

Why he should assume the same then?

On the forum that is called baiting I believe

And a "Fuck you" reply is considered a direct insult. "Flaming" is the proper internet term, I think.

Thanks, you always being such a pleasant gentleman.

Did you see the lightning edit?

Remorse and repent are also high thoughts. Looks like he is betraying his will again.


For you, always a gentleman. :)

And yeah, caught the lightning edit. Beat him to it, in fact. ;)

For you, always a gentleman. :)

And yeah, caught the lightning edit. Beat him to it, in fact. ;)

Thanks for it.

His "will" is too fast for me to follow. Seems to be a shifting and unstable one, at least.

On the forum that is called baiting I believe

No, actually, that would be a restrained response to obvious trolling.

You are crying for help in the wrong place. Go see a therapist. Talk to a live person who is able to help you. Pissing here is only going to get you kicked out eventually.Kicked out AGAIN, more like.

No, actually, that would be a restrained response to obvious trolling.

Wasn't he making all these posts about how he wouldn't show "restrain" anymore?

Looks to me that his will wasn't able to eliminate his restraint.

Wasn't he making all these posts about how he wouldn't show "restrain" anymore?

Looks to me that his will wasn't able to eliminate his restraint.

Nah, and he's whining in another thread about how awful his life is. :rolleyes:

Oh, and you should try gabbly (http://gabbly.com/http://forums.jolt.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=1227). You might be able to do it from work.

Good lord this kid is a stereotype if I've ever saw one.

Not only is he a conservative (probably christian) who dislikes muslims for no reason, but he's admittedly DARK-SIDED ("Compassion is for the weak."). Holy crap. I'm blown away by how amazingly ignorant and frightfully stupid this little boy must be.

And honestly, I don't care how old he is. He's a kid. He's a little, bratty child. Age has nothing to do with being an adult.

http://www.hlj.me.uk/ns/ruffy.jpg

*dusts hands, leaves thread*

Sure, whatever.

Okay. I think we can all agree that without technology, no firearms, yes?

*image snip**dusts hands, leaves thread*


Well done, PM. :D

Okay. I think we can all agree that without technology, no firearms, yes?

Well, technology is a wide term. Flint handaxes were once advanced weapons technology. Take out technology and you have nothing.

Well, technology is a wide term. Flint handaxes were once advanced weapons technology. Take out technology and you have nothing.
Exactly. So no firearms.

Exactly. So no firearms.

Or anything else. That's like saying "remove oxygen and water and we have no life!".

*IMG snip*

*dusts hands, leaves thread*

That was the funniest thing I've seen all day. Well done, sir.

Anyway, someone already beat me to "Truthiness" so I don't have a whole lot to say.

I find it amazing he thinks he's so special that we should accept what he thinks just because he thinks it. I think a lot of this is just his desire to be special or different from everyone else.

Well done, PM. :D

That was the funniest thing I've seen all day. Well done, sir.


:D :fluffle:

That was the funniest thing I've seen all day. Well done, sir.

Anyway, someone already beat me to "Truthiness" so I don't have a whole lot to say.

I find it amazing he thinks he's so special that we should accept what he thinks just because he thinks it. I think a lot of this is just his desire to be special or different from everyone else.

No, he's admitted to having mental problems. That said, I'm not sure what the point of this thread was to begin with.

No, he's admitted to having mental problems. That said, I'm not sure what the point of this thread was to begin with.
To show orf his mental problems?

Need of attention and feeling popular by having lots of people hearing (or reading) what he has to say (or write)?

Need of attention and feeling popular by having lots of people hearing (or reading) what he has to say (or write)?

Most likely.