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Would you be more willing to die for your country or for your God(or lack there of)? I'll take country.

Neither, thanks.

I am more willing to LIVE for my country than for God, if that helps.

I'd be willing to die for either, but more for God. Since I'm a Christian, it is far less likely that I will have to die for God than for my country, though.

Neither, thanks.

I am more willing to LIVE for my country than for God, if that helps.

Right. What did George Patton say? You make the the other bastard die for his country.

My country IS my God!

/fascist

If I've got to choose one I'll pick the one that isn't imaginary.

I choose....

Neither.

If I've got to choose one I'll pick the one that isn't imaginary.

define "imaginary". I would/could argue that our country is an imagined community.

Would you be more willing to die for your country or for your God(or lack there of)? I'll take country.

Neither.

Why would God want me to kill myself for Him?

Neither.

I didn't say which would you be willing to die for, I said which would you be MORE willing to die for. As in if you had to choose one.

I'd rather be a martyr for the cause of Christ, than the cause of US intrests.

Dying spreading a message of Love > dying protecting the economic intrests of the US

I didn't say which would you be willing to die for, I said which would you be MORE willing to die for. As in if you had to choose one.

I am entirely 100% non willing to die for either. Bad poll, lacks the option I would choose.

Is english your 1st language, and if it is how old are you?

Why does it matter if English is someone's first language? Are you trying to attack their grammar? I would say your writing ability is sufficiently lacking that you have no ground to stand on or from which to attack the writing abilities of others.

None of the above. Besides that, which country should i need to die for? My Passport says "United States of America" and i've lived most of my life in Scotland and the Netherlands.

My religion doesn't require me to give my life for the advancement of it, as a matter of fact, it's frowned upon.

IMHO, it only makes sense to give your life to retain your independence, liberty or out of self-defense.

I love my country, but I dunno if I'd truly give my life up for it... And I definitely wouldn't die for "god", I don't think it would want me to do that anyway.

Why does it matter if English is someone's first language? Are you trying to attack their grammar? I would say your writing ability is sufficiently lacking that you have no ground to stand on or from which to attack the writing abilities of others.
disregard, I didnt read what he wrote completely. Didn't notice it said 100% NOT willing.

disregard, I didnt read what he wrote completely. Didn't notice it said 100% NOT willing.

it actually says "100% non willing"

it actually says "100% non willing"

same difference

Why would God want me to kill myself for Him?

Ask Abraham. Slightly different situation, I know, but the question is essentially the same. Teleological suspension of the ethical, and all that.

same difference

Just trying to promote precision. :D

I would die for both, but if I had to choose between the two, I would die for God.

My list of priorities:

God and general Christianity
Protestantism
Evangelicalism
Calvinism
Presbyterianism
My family
My friends
My country

So, as you can see, a lot of things come before however much nationalism I have, if I really have any at all.

Actually I wish there was a third option. To die to help or save others. Because that is why people die for country, because they want to help or save their countrymen and future geneations. Since I happen to be Christian, it's a tennant of faith that laying down ones life for another is not only divine, it's what God himself did as an example. But I would hardly call that "dying for God."

Actually I wish there was a third option. To die to help or save others. Because that is why people die for country, because they want to help or save their countrymen and future geneations. Since I happen to be Christian, it's a tennant of faith that laying down ones life for another is not only divine, it's what God himself did as an example. But I would hardly call that "dying for God."

But why are you helping them? It should be to show the love of your Savior, and to obey Him. So, you would be dying for God.

The motto for Jesus Freaks Int'l is "Fear God, not man", and defines martyr as:

mar·tyr
(mar' ter)n.
[from the Greek word for "witness"]


1) One who chooses to suffer death rather than deny Jesus Christ or His work.
2) One who bears testimony to the truth of what he has seen or heard or knows, as in a witness in a court of justice.
3) One who sacrifices something very important to further the kingdom of God.
4) One who endures severe or constant suffering for their Christian witness.
5) A Jesus Freak.

Let us go after God!

I'd die for neither.

I would possibly die for my country should another WWII situation occur. Otherwise neither.

Neither. But if I HAD to die for one of them I still wouldn't choose. I'd make them fight over me. :p

Easy for me. While I'd fight for the right to remain an Athiest, I'd die for a country that said I didn't have to.

I'd probably be ready to die to save the lives of my countrymen, (not because they are my countrymen, but because they are people).

I wouldn't give my life for God, as I can't think He's done anything to deserve it.

And Edwardis, desire to please Jesus would not go threw my head at all. I find the view that all positive behaviour is motivated towards protecting one's soul. I for one believe that people have it within themselves.

Ach... die for one made-up human concept or another... urmm...

I'd probably prefer to die to aid my countrypeople, but not "my country" per se, because I refuse to die on patriotic grounds, whereas if I'm actually helping a real person, rather than a concept, then fair enough, I suppose.

Since I don't believe that God exists, I'm certainly not dying to aid that cause.

well if God exists and I can save her I guess God but then again I don’t think anyone can be sure they would actually give there life for anything so I just don’t know

I would only die for my love.

EDIT:

Now, THAT was pathetic.

I'd much rather just live.

Neither is likely.

Though I don't believe in a God, I would probably be more likely to die for my beliefs than to protect my country, with which I am reasonably frustrated at this point in time.

Saying that, I would perhaps risk my life in order to improve my country, so that it falls in line with aforesaid beliefs.

Country, God does not demand life, and one need not die for your faith, to protect it within yourself. Country, on the other hand, might require defense from an external force.

Would you be more willing to die for your country or for your God(or lack there of)? I'll take country.

Neither.

I didn't say which would you be willing to die for, I said which would you be MORE willing to die for. As in if you had to choose one.

Meh. If someone wants to kill me, go ahead and do so. Why would I need to choose what I die for? It's completely pointless either way.

neither. wait, why isn't that on the poll?

I can't think of any situation where I would have to die for God, except one. If a fascist government was killing all religious people... I certainly wouldn't go die for a country like that.

In all other situations I would be charged with killing for God, which I will not do.

If I've got to choose one I'll pick the one that isn't imaginary.
National borders are basically imaginary.

Meh. If someone wants to kill me, go ahead and do so.
Come on, aren't you worth more than that?

Would you be more willing to die for your country or for your God(or lack there of)? I'll take country.

That's like asking if I would be more willing to chew glass or jagged shards of metal. I'm not "willing" to do either one.

Come on, aren't you worth more than that?

More than what? :confused:

God or Country?

Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself.

Choose your future.

Choose life.


I'm going to go throw up, now.

Neither.

I don't have faith in either of them.

God or Country?

Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself.

Choose your future.

Choose life.


I'm going to go throw up, now.

Waiting to get colonised by wankers?

Waiting to get colonised by wankers?

Can't even find a decent culture to get colonized by...

No poor bastard ever won a war by dieing for his country (or his god). He won it, by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. Enough said.

I would much rather die defending secularism against religious fundamentalist factions than for any arbitrarily defined location on the map.

Assuming that "god" simply means "your chosen deity" (as it would be very peculiar to ask a Buddhist or Muslim to die for the Christian God), I'd chose that.
However, since I have elected myself as my own god, and my interests are in no way served by my own extermination, I don't think the issue will ever broach itself.

neither. I'd die to protect my family and a (very) select group of friends. That is about it.

Neither. My gods don't need people to die for them, and as for my country -- I pay my taxes, so it can kiss my ass.

I would not choose to die for anything or anyone. But I would choose to risk dying, i.e. put myself in harm's way, for my family, friends -- oh, hell, my cat, too; he's so cute -- if I absolutely had to in order to stop them from being seriously harmed. Oh, yeah, and for my principles, too. I'm a real "give me liberty or give me death" nut.

But isn't this whole question kind of pointless? Can any of us choose not to die, reason notwithstanding? Nobody is getting out of here alive anyway, so I think the concept should be more, "Under what circumstances would you try less to avoid dying at the given moment, and how much less would you try?" Remember, even soldiers duck.

After all, from what I've heard, God is damn good at taking care of himself.

If I had to choose which was more likely, I have to say religion. Even though I don't really have faith in any religion, it is possible that if I ever obtain faith in a belief, I would die for what I believed in. I don't think that I would ever willingly die for my country.

Although it is almost impossible for me to imagine willingly dying at all.

Would you be more willing to die for your country or for your God(or lack there of)? I'll take country.

I would rather die for freedom than either of those two.

Would you be more willing to die for your country or for your God(or lack there of)? I'll take country.I believe it's not my duty to die for God or Country... but to make those little pissants die for their God or Country!

Right. What did George Patton say? You make the the other bastard die for his country.

lol

i remember the recruiters talking to me and the army recruiter told me of a quote that some MArine general said and it went along the line of giving your life up for your country something or other, then he said that quote from George Patton. supposed to make me choose the army over the marines, but i showed him (i chose neither)

I don't have a god, so it would have to be country. I'm not too keen on that either though.

god is more important than anything!

I would die to save the lives of my friends and family...nothing else.

I don't have a god, so it would have to be country. I'm not too keen on that either though.

Here, you can have my God....I havent used him in ages!

Eugene Debs said: "I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth, and I am a citizen of the world."

neither. but assuming god means religion, and i have none... i therefore assume 'god' to mean ethics or one's take on morality (rather than necessarily a church), which i would be more inclined to 'die for' over some arbitary lines on a map

Neither. And even if I had to choose, what difference would it make? Either way, I'd be dead. IF I was so loyal to either god or country, I would probably be a lot more helpful by NOT dying.

Here, you can have my God....I havent used him in ages!

Does he come with any useful functions or gadgets?

Actually I wish there was a third option. To die to help or save others.

As long as we're defining save in a physical sense and not a "my god is better than your pantehon" sense THAT I would die for.

What god?

What god?

Yours, or your lack of one.

Country, I suppose. I don't believe in any gods. Although if a deity came down personally and asked me to fight for them, I suppose I would.

the lack of one

religion is so .........fake