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Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?

Because men are meatheads!

That and yeah, I figure we are more compassionate towards animal suffering.

I'm male and vegetarian and I like it just fine. Mind you, I've never exactly seen a disbalance in the gender ratio, but I'm not exactly into the 'vegetarian scene', as it were.

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?

I vote for weight-loss. Women aren't good at rational thought when it comes to their figures.

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?

I can't speak for other countries, but it is quite common for women in the family to be vegetarian in India. Mine was. My Grandma, mom and sister were all veggies while my grandpa, dad and me (not now) and bro-in-law were non-veggies. I think it is also due to the ladies being more religious while the males in my family were agnostics at best.

I also think that men hanging out more (you know..going to restaurant with friends etc..) than women has something to do with this. Plus the whole "I need muscles and meat is good for protein" thing..etc..

Because women care more about health and animal rights and all that bullshit.

I can't speak for other countries, but it is quite common for women in the family to be vegetarian in India.
Isn't almost everyone in India vegetarian?

Yes women also tend to be more religious.

Maybe females are more genetically predisposed towards a pallette (sp?) of vegetables and fruits?

Weight control.

Three cousins converted and that was their prime reason.

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?
I think it's the mothering instinct. Aww, look at the cute puppy. How could you ever want to hurt it?

Besides that, men just seem to generally have more of a taste for meat (though I know some exceptions to that rule), but I don't know whether that's a result of societal or biological factors.

One more thing: Women generally have better table manners (again, I know some exceptions), and so it's just not as fun for them to eat a steak or chicken leg or somesuch meat item.

Who the hell said that?

Im male and currently converting to vegetarianism

(made it through 1st week without meat woot!)

Who the hell said that?

Im male and currently converting to vegetarianism

(made it through 1st week without meat woot!)
I'm also male and thinking of stopping eating red meat and poultry, but I would never go vegetarian because fish are too good to give up eating.

(What would I be? Pescotarian perhaps?)

Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer.

Why? Because going vegan takes balls.

Because some animals are cute. Women like to cuddle and hug cute things, while men like to kill cute things. It's well-documented, entirely scientifically-based fact.

Because some animals are cute. Women like to cuddle and hug cute things, while men like to kill cute things. It's well-documented, entirely scientifically-based fact.

The significant scientific data which shows that men like to cuddle and hug cute women is just aberrant data, yes?

Yes women also tend to be more religious.

If that were the case, more women think animals don't have souls and therefore you'd have less vegetarians.

The significant scientific data which shows that men like to cuddle and hug cute women is just aberrant data, yes?

Studies prove that men do not, in fact, enjoy cuddling and hugging cute women. They are simply seeking to place their penis nearest to the woman's vagina as allowed.

I'm also male and thinking of stopping eating red meat and poultry, but I would never go vegetarian because fish are too good to give up eating.

(What would I be? Pescotarian perhaps?)

I don't know but I am considering your idea as well(i'm becoming vegatarian for health reasons) Cutting red meat and poultry from your diet would be vey beneficial
-lowering rates of several cancers
-lower cholesterol
-lower blood pressure
-lower fat intake
-your exposing your body to much lower levels of preservatives and other additives
-your helping the environment;)

Fish is a very healthy meat(except for mercury in tuna and other processed fish:headbang:)


not much fat or cholesterol(except for sardines)

Why? Because going vegan takes balls.

Yeah, takes balls, cuts them off and throws them away.

Studies prove that men do not, in fact, enjoy cuddling and hugging cute women. They are simply seeking to place their penis nearest to the woman's vagina as allowed.
Doesn't take a study to figure that one out.

Because some animals are cute. Women like to cuddle and hug cute things, while men like to kill cute things. It's well-documented, entirely scientifically-based fact.

gotta love the "men are evil" mentality..

-your exposing your body to much lower levels of preservatives and other additives
Yes. Meat industry is fairly dodgy even in Europe (if living in America I absolutely would not eat meat from the things I've heard). I would be better to kill my own meat, but I don't really have the time, skill or motivation to do that.

I would be better to kill my own meat, but I don't really have the time, skill or motivation to do that.

Self-mutilation is not the answer.

Self-mutilation is not the answer.
The punmaster strikes again!

gotta love the "men are evil" mentality..

I <3 sarcasm.

Isn't almost everyone in India vegetarian?


No. India is only around 80% Hindu-Buddhist-Jainist and even amongst this group, around 50% (mostly men) eat meat at varying frequency, especially when you include eggs. This is my personal observation but I guess since I have travelled all over India and have been to many households, it has some validity, as far as anecdotes go...

We go hunting, they go pick the berries. :D

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?

There are quite a few male vegetarians. There could be a couple of reasons why you don't see them.

1) They just aren't as vocal about it as women. In western society it isn't considered manly to be vegetarian so a lot of guys don't go out of their way to advertise it.

2) Most men pay more attention to what women are doing (as they are into women) than to what other men are doing so they just don't notice all the male vegetarians.

3) Due to their (our actually, I'm a male veggie) high intake of fruits and veggies they have developed high concentrations of various color pigments thus allowing them to alter their own skin pigmentation to blend in with their surroundings. :p

I can't speak for other countries, but it is quite common for women in the family to be vegetarian in India. Mine was. My Grandma, mom and sister were all veggies while my grandpa, dad and me (not now) and bro-in-law were non-veggies.

:confused:

For some reason I've always thought you were female.

There are quite a few male vegetarians. There could be a couple of reasons why you don't see them.

1) They just aren't as vocal about it as women. In western society it isn't considered manly to be vegetarian so a lot of guys don't go out of their way to advertise it.

2) Most men pay more attention to what women are doing (as they are into women) than to what other men are doing so they just don't notice all the male vegetarians.

3) Due to their (our actually, I'm a male veggie) high intake of fruits and veggies they have developed high concentrations of various color pigments thus allowing them to alter their own skin pigmentation to blend in with their surroundings. :p
Rated in order of truthfulness I see!

You make a good point, vegetarianism is considered girly, but maybe that's because most vegetarians are female?

Because it is more expectable in our society for a woman to be enough of an emotional wreck to resort to such unreasonable means of self-satisfaction.

Is there any evidence to support the assertion that most vegetarians are female? I know alot of male vegetarians.

Rated in order of truthfulness I see!

You make a good point, vegetarianism is considered girly, but maybe that's because most vegetarians are female?

I don't know the stats, so I could be wrong. But from personal observation in shops and restaurants catering to vegetarians, I've noticed a fairly balanced male/female ratio. I've never noticed any shortage of male vegetarians.

Now, are you talking about society at large, or just high school/college kids. Because in high school and college, girls seem to be more open to experimentation than boys. That could explain it in those enviroments.

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?
Concept of caring is more intrinsic in females than males. They're just more likely to feel compassion for what's on the dinner plate.

Doing a quick search, this is the only survey of vegetarianism in the US I came across. I'm sure there are others though. For what it's worth this is the info it provides.

http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/poll2000.htm

In order to get a clearer sense of vegetarianism/veganism in the US, the VRG asked this question in its recent National Zogby poll: "Please tell me which of the following foods, if any, you never eat? Meat, Poultry, Fish/Seafood, Dairy Products, Eggs, Honey." Defining vegetarians as those who never eat meat, poultry, or fish, Zogby arrived at the figure 2.5% of the statistical population who can be considered vegetarian. About three in four people (72%) responded that they eat all of the foods on the list, and those who eschew meat numbered 4.5%. (Note that this figure includes the 2.5% whom we have already defined as vegetarian).

The Vegetarian Resource Group Zogby poll surveyed 968 adults, 18 and older.

According to this poll, the people most likely to never eat meat, poultry, or fish are those living on both coasts, residents of large cities, and women working outside the home. Interestingly, the split between male and female vegans is about equal, while twice as many women are vegetarian as men.

NEVER EAT MEAT, POULTRY, OR FISH (Vegetarians)
2.5% Total of those surveyed
3.5% East
1.8% South
1.3% Central Great Lakes
4.2% West
6.0% Ages 18-29
2.3% Ages 30-49
0.7% Ages 50-64
1.6% Ages 65 plus
3.7% Ages 18-24
5.6% Ages 25-34
1.8% Ages 35-54
1.6% Ages 55-69
1.4% Ages 70 plus
5.4% Large City
0.4% Small City
2.0% Suburb
2.2% Rural
1.6% White
9.4% Latino (we suspect this is a statistical error)
3.5% Afro-American
8.1% Asian
1.7% Male
3.2% Female

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?

Being vegetarian is a way of living on a low-calorie diet, without drawing attention to yourself. That's why more women are vegetarian, because women are compelled to be thin.

Being vegetarian is a way of living on a low-calorie diet, without drawing attention to yourself. That's why more women are vegetarian, because women are compelled to be thin.

I don't get where this whole vegetarian diet = low calorie idea comes from. I've known a lot of fat vegetarians (I've been one). Ice cream, potato chips, twinkes, chocolate, soda, donuts, and a great many other junk foods are technically vegetarian. And even just eating beans, rice, fruits, and veggies can make you fat if you eat too much of them. They are not calorie free foods.

:confused:

For some reason I've always thought you were female.

Haha...just curious, what made you think so...cuz I am vegetarian ? ..:p

Haha...just curious, what made you think so...cuz I am vegetarian ? ..:p

*lol* No. I'm not really sure why. Just something in your previous posts I guess.

Honestly, I personally know more male vegetarians than female.....

I don't get where this whole vegetarian diet = low calorie idea comes from. I've known a lot of fat vegetarians (I've been one). Ice cream, potato chips, twinkes, chocolate, soda, donuts, and a great many other junk foods are technically vegetarian. And even just eating beans, rice, fruits, and veggies can make you fat if you eat too much of them. They are not calorie free foods.

I know, I was just saying that SOME people believe that being vegetarian will help you lose weight. There's no such thing as calorie free foods. *Rolls Eyes*

Never noticed that, but it could be a lack of testosterone. Who knows. Maybe guys feel their masculinity will be called into question if they don't eat meat.

Isn't almost everyone in India vegetarian?
No. India is only around 80% Hindu-Buddhist-Jainist and even amongst this group, around 50% (mostly men) eat meat at varying frequency, especially when you include eggs. This is my personal observation but I guess since I have travelled all over India and have been to many households, it has some validity, as far as anecdotes go...

The wiki on Ahimsa, vegetarian diet and the cow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism#Ahimsa.2C_vegetarian_diet_and_the_cow) has this to say"

While vegetarianism is not a dogma or requirement, it is recommended as a sattwic (purifying) lifestyle. About 30% of today's Hindu population, especially in orthodox communities in South India, states like Gujarat, which has had significant Jain influence, and in many Brahmin and Marwari enclaves around the subcontinent, are lacto-vegetarian.[40] Some avoid even onion and garlic, as they are regarded as rajasic/tamasic. Another 20% of the Hindu population practice vegetarianism on certain days, especially on the day of their deity of devotion.

Those Hindus who do eat meat (usually chicken, goat and fish) predominantly abstain from beef.

So while it's fairly common, it's not universal. (And of course, the Islamic population tends not to be veg.)

Is there any evidence to support the assertion that most vegetarians are female? I know alot of male vegetarians.

Looks like it.

http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/poll2000.htm
Interestingly, the split between male and female vegans is about equal, while twice as many women are vegetarian as men.

Quite interesting.

Im male and currently converting to vegetarianismConverting? It's a religion?

Why? Because going vegan takes balls.Meatballs?

Studies prove that men do not, in fact, enjoy cuddling and hugging cute women. They are simply seeking to place their penis nearest to the woman's vagina as allowed.Studies show that 97% of the studies people talk about are made up.

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?

Are they? I kow three male vegetarians, and two female ones. Can't say I've noticed the trend you mention, really.

Why? Because going vegan takes balls.

Does it return them if a vegan reverts back to being an omnivore?

Because men are meatheads!

That and yeah, I figure we are more compassionate towards animal suffering.

As a vegetarian male, I'll try not to take offence at that.

Went 9 months without meat once. First time I had a hamburger after that I was sick for two days.


Mmm Meat.

I also lost a ton of weight, though that may be due to the fact I was only eating once a day, either raisen bran or oatmeal. A single bowl a day. After the first week or so you don't really get hungry anymore, 'cause you're hungry all the time you just tune it out.

Went 9 months without meat once. First time I had a hamburger after that I was sick for two days.


Mmm Meat.

I also lost a ton of weight, though that may be due to the fact I was only eating once a day, either raisen bran or oatmeal. A single bowl a day. After the first week or so you don't really get hungry anymore, 'cause you're hungry all the time you just tune it out.

:eek: I think even the Nazis gave more food to the Jews than you used to eat! And you think that losing weight may have been due to your eating so little?!

Studies prove that men do not, in fact, enjoy cuddling and hugging cute women. They are simply seeking to place their penis nearest to the woman's vagina as allowed.Woohoo! I'm an anomaly!

:eek: I think even the Nazis gave more food to the Jews than you used to eat! And you think that losing weight may have been due to your eating so little?!

I was unemployed! I was trying to see how cheaply I could survive. Answer, pretty fuckin cheap. I can live for a year or longer on $50 for food.

Because it is more expectable in our society for a woman to be enough of an emotional wreck to resort to such unreasonable means of self-satisfaction.
How is vegetarianism an unreasonable means of self-satisfaction?

Now, are you talking about society at large
Yes.

Doing a quick search, this is the only survey of vegetarianism in the US I came across. I'm sure there are others though. For what it's worth this is the info it provides.

-snip-
Vegetarianism seems to be linked to living in more left-wing states as well! Another interesting revelation.

I only know one vegan and he's male.

I find that a lot of the vegetarians I know just don't like meat, the taste etc. I'm pretty sure, though, more of the guy vegetarians I know are vegetarian for animal rights etc. whereas most of the girls i know just really don't like meat.

Bc0z g1rls r t3h puss13s!

Documented fact of manliness: Killing things and eating them imparts the strength of the consumed. It's quicker to get strength if you eat meat since most animals kick plants' anatomic equivalent of a butt. :D

For the documentation of this phenomenon, and why men eat meat to become manly, get a copy of "The Alphabet of Manliness" and look under the entry for "N." It involves telekinetically digesting a pig. I need say no more.

How is vegetarianism an unreasonable means of self-satisfaction?
Animals are at a level of intelligence and self-awareness far below all but the most severely mentally retarded of human beings, and nearly every single “human-like” thing that animals do can be attributed to imagination making too much of instinct. So, all reasonable ethical motivations for being a vegetarian are dismissible.

Of course, there is nothing wrong with a healthy diet, and most meat is fairly bad for you, but cutting out something entirely just doesn’t make any sense. A person on a low-fat diet will occasionally eat a piece of cake. Why must dietary vegetarians be so extreme?

All we are left with is that certain people are just in such a sorry state emotionally, that they must pretend that they are moral because they do not harm a creature that’s perceptions of pain and comfort are negligible.

I know, I was just saying that SOME people believe that being vegetarian will help you lose weight. There's no such thing as calorie free foods. *Rolls Eyes*

Celery. Hell, it takes more energy to digest it than digesting it gives.

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?

Because while men can love vegetables too, only women are really equipped to love vegetables. :D

Animals are at a level of intelligence and self-awareness far below all but the most severely mentally retarded of human beings, and nearly every single “human-like” thing that animals do can be attributed to imagination making too much of instinct. So, all reasonable ethical motivations for being a vegetarian are dismissible.

Of course, there is nothing wrong with a healthy diet, and most meat is fairly bad for you, but cutting out something entirely just doesn’t make any sense. A person on a low-fat diet will occasionally eat a piece of cake. Why must dietary vegetarians be so extreme?

All we are left with is that certain people are just in such a sorry state emotionally, that they must pretend that they are moral because they do not harm a creature that’s perceptions of pain and comfort are negligible.


Meat isn't bad for you, it's just way over-eaten. A few ounces of meat with some sort of whole grain (other than corn, which is mostly just starch) and some variety in fruits and vegetables makes for a perfectly balanced diet.

Many Americans eat over a pound of meat a day, and it's fatty meat at that. To say that meat is bad for you is like saying that water is bad for you, because if you drink too much at once you can suffer hydrolosis, or just mineral depletion.

I vote for weight-loss. Women aren't good at rational thought when it comes to their figures.

Well, it doesn't help that women are getting this impossible image of beauty shoved down their throats every second of every day.

Don't read beauty mags, they'll just make you feel ugly.

How is vegetarianism an unreasonable means of self-satisfaction?

Vegetarianism seems to be linked to living in more left-wing states as well! Another interesting revelation.

I only know one vegan and he's male.

Well, an ex-gf of mine told me that an ex-boyfriend of hers was a vegetarian and his semen tasted like cherry-pie filling. Many women have told me that they notice a definite correlation between a man's diet and his taste.

So there you go. If you're looking to encourage men to adopt veganism spread the word, "women will think that giving you a blowjob is delicious."

Animals are at a level of intelligence and self-awareness far below all but the most severely mentally retarded of human beings, and nearly every single “human-like” thing that animals do can be attributed to imagination making too much of instinct. So, all reasonable ethical motivations for being a vegetarian are dismissible.
It's not killing animals that bothers me, it's suffering animals. The meat industry give the animals nothing but suffering before they die.

Animals can feel pain. That doesn't necessitate intelligence.

Animals also require a lot of land to graze on, and emit harmful gases. Vegetarianism is pro-environment too.

Of course, there is nothing wrong with a healthy diet, and most meat is fairly bad for you, but cutting out something entirely just doesn’t make any sense. A person on a low-fat diet will occasionally eat a piece of cake. Why must dietary vegetarians be so extreme?
Not at all, pure vegetarianism can be quite healthy. You can go fine without any meat at all.

All we are left with is that certain people are just in such a sorry state emotionally, that they must pretend that they are moral because they do not harm a creature that’s perceptions of pain and comfort are negligible.
Those lacking emotions are worse off than those who have them.

Because while men can love vegetables too, only women are really equipped to love vegetables. :D
ROFL!

Celery. Hell, it takes more energy to digest it than digesting it gives.

That doesn't make it calorie free. In fact, it has 14 calories for a cup. http://www.calorieking.com/foods/calories-in-vegetables-fresh-celery-raw-edible-portion_f-Y2lkPTE0Nzc1JmJpZD0xJmZpZD02MzMwMCZlaWQ9ODQ5NjU5ODQmcG9zPTEmcGFyPSZrZXk9Y2VsZXJ5.html

Celery. Hell, it takes more energy to digest it than digesting it gives.

But not enough to matter.

Celery has about 6 calories per 8-inch stalk, making it a dieter's staple. Although it's loaded with latent energy, the amount we are capable of extracting from it is negligible thanks to the plant's cellulose composition. Its ingestion can result in negative calories, but it is a fallacy to believe that effect has to do with energy expended in chewing. Though chewing might feel like a somewhat strenuous activity, it burns about the same amount of energy as watching paint dry. It is the bodily energy devoted to the digestion of the green stalks that exhausts calories. A cold low-calorie drink would enhance the effect, because the liquid needs to be warmed to body temperature, an act that requires further expenditure of energy.

Yet as enticing as all this sounds, the dietary bankroll built by this approach would be very small, probably amounting to no more than a few dozen calories a day. In a world where it takes 3,500 calories to work off a single pound of fat, feasting on celery would make only the merest difference.
http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/celery.asp

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?
Because they are more impressionable and fall easier into pretense than most men. They care more about how they are percieved.

I think it is a combination of more concern for diet and misplaced mothering instinct.

Because women care more about health and animal rights and all that bullshit.

Buddy, it's called being socially aware, not bullshit.

the media, at least in the US, encourages certain "masculine" behaviors - eating meat is one of them

Buddy, it's called being socially aware, not bullshit.
No, it's bullshit.

No, it's bullshit.

what's bullshit about trying to be healthy?

what's bullshit about trying to be healthy?

The trying to be healthy part.:)

-lower fat intake

You can always cut away the fatty parts

-your helping the environment;)
How is NOT eating cows that fart tons of methane into the air hurting the environment?

what's bullshit about trying to be healthy?
Read.
Because women care more about health and animal rights and all that bullshit.
Buddy, it's called being socially aware, not bullshit.
No, it's bullshit.

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?

They're not. Most of the vegitarians I know are men. As for women thinking meat will make them fat? I don't think most vegitarians think like this, they just don't like eating animals or just don't like meat.

How is NOT eating cows that fart tons of methane into the air hurting the environment?

If no-one ate them, no-one would breed them and cows wouldn't survive without human help.

How is NOT eating cows that fart tons of methane into the air hurting the environment?
If there wasn't a demand for beef nobody would fucking breed cows. The cows that we eat aren't extant naturally.

They're not. Most of the vegetarians I know are men.
How many do you know? I know about 30 of them and about 80% are female. The vegan I know is male though.

Statistical evidence posted somewhere in this thread indicates that most vegetarians are female.

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?Becasuse only cunts are vegetarians. Real men are vegans ;)

I've never noticed any gender imbalance, but I only have anecdotal evidence. I am however a male vegan & a good chunk of my social circle are either vegans or vegetarians.

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?

I have known quite a few vegetarian women during my life, and I've noticed that many of them became vegetarians in their early teens (12-16 yo.), because they didn't want to hurt the cuddly animals, or some other animal rights stuff. As they grew older, most of them grew out of that nonsense, but kept their vegetarian habits, as they had gotten accustomed to them and had found it to be a healthy way of life.

As for vegetarian men, I guess they do it mostly to impress women.

If no-one ate them, no-one would breed them and cows wouldn't survive without human help.
Yes, but unless we hunt them all down and kill them, they will still know how to eat, walk, and reproduce. the result- we either have a massive cow genocide, or
we have a million cows running rampant around *shudders as he imagines a bull barging into a china shop*

Yes, but unless we hunt them all down and kill them, they will still know how to eat, walk, and reproduce. the result- we either have a massive cow genocide, or
we have a million cows running rampant around *shudders as he imagines a bull barging into a china shop*
Cows are continuously being bred. The methane emissions will be reduced if the cows are not bred. The remaining cows will either die naturally, get eaten, or I personally would have no problem with killing them all. Preferably in a humane way, like machine gun fire. :)


As for vegetarian men, I guess they do it mostly to impress women.
Contrary to stereotypes, not everything that men do is based on pulling women.

Yes, but unless we hunt them all down and kill them, they will still know how to eat, walk, and reproduce.
You think that all the cows required for human consumption are produced by the cows have sex with each other when they feel like it, with no intervention by farmers? No, they're made to breed breed breed.

It amazes me how it's always meat-eaters who know nothing about the meat industry.

The women probably care more about both the animals and their figures. I like meat because it tastes very good. Better then most vegetables anyway.

The women probably care more about both the animals and their figures. I like meat because it tastes very good. Better then most vegetables anyway.

Better than goddamn okra, that's for sure.

Stupid snot-textured crap...

Real men are vegans.

Damn right.

(Been a vegan 17 years and counting now).

Who knows. I have a feeling that it could be skewed because I know many girls who have been vegetarians for a while (for dieting, compassion, image, whatever) and quit, but the guys I know who are vegetarian have been for a long time and don't seem to have any doubts.

I dated a vegan for a year and it was really hell, let me tell you. I freaking hate tofu, although seitan wasn't so bad. I never realized how many things we eat have animal products involved. (He included milk, gelatin, honey, JUST everything.)

Well, an ex-gf of mine told me that an ex-boyfriend of hers was a vegetarian and his semen tasted like cherry-pie filling. Many women have told me that they notice a definite correlation between a man's diet and his taste.

So there you go. If you're looking to encourage men to adopt veganism spread the word, "women will think that giving you a blowjob is delicious."

BLECH, no. Oh HELL no. I don't care what your diet is, your semen will never be tasty. That girl is GROSS.

Just wondering about a trend I have always noticed. Vegetarian women are quite common, but veggie men are rarer. Do women think that meat will make them fat? Are they more compassionate towards animal suffering?

What do you think?

Females are more compassionate. But I have more compassion than most men, suprisingly enough. I hate seeing ANY form of death, plant included. I also repsect ALL forms of life, once again plant included. Only reason I eat plant is to survive. Sure, plants don't feel pain, but that doesn't mean they aren't living beings who deserve respect as much as everything else. So yeah, I only eat plants to survive. Animals I don't have to eat to survive, so I don't eat them.

Who knows. I have a feeling that it could be skewed because I know many girls who have been vegetarians for a while (for dieting, compassion, image, whatever) and quit, but the guys I know who are vegetarian have been for a long time and don't seem to have any doubts.

I dated a vegan for a year and it was really hell, let me tell you. I freaking hate tofu, although seitan wasn't so bad. I never realized how many things we eat have animal products involved. (He included milk, gelatin, honey, JUST everything.)

I agree! I dated a vegetarian for a little while. I hate Tofu and Soymilk!
We evolved as omnivores and I am glad to be one! Personally I love a good steak. :) :fluffle:

We evolved as omnivores and I am glad to be one!

We also evolved with (apparent) freedom of choice, and I am glad to exercise mine by avoiding consumption of animal produce.

We also evolved with (apparent) freedom of choice, and I am glad to exercise mine by avoiding consumption of animal produce.

You are correct about freedom of choice. You eat what you want and I'll eat what I want. De gustibus non disputandum.
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I dated a vegan for a year and it was really hell, let me tell you. I freaking hate tofu, although seitan wasn't so bad.

Then why did you eat it? As a vegetarian, I never force my food on someone else. Even if I'm living with them. And I expect the same treatment in return.

I never realized how many things we eat have animal products involved. (He included milk, gelatin, honey, JUST everything.)

Yep. Gelatin is a biggie. It is hidden in so many foods. Marshmallows, most yogurts, many candies (gummies especially), some dary products, etc. Same with chicken/beef broth. It's in almost all comercial and restaurant soups, chineese restaurant food (even the "vegetarian" items), and processed rice and noodle mixes. You have to pay attention to what you are eating. It can be kind of hard at first, but quickly becomes second nature.

Yes, but unless we hunt them all down and kill them, they will still know how to eat, walk, and reproduce.

Not necessarily. Modern meat animals have been bred over the last several hundred years to produce the maximum amount of meat and to be very docile. As a result they have lost most of their natural instincts. They bear almost no similarity to their wild ancestors. Most (if not all) would not survive in the wild. They need human care to survive because we made them that way.

Yep. Gelatin is a biggie. It is hidden in so many foods.

I think it is a preservative of some kind. It is there in breads too. Giving up bread was kinda hard on me in the beginning....but then it forced me to cook more...and I ended up being a decent cook...so I am not complaining now...:D

I think it is a preservative of some kind. It is there in breads too. Giving up bread was kinda hard on me in the beginning....but then it forced me to cook more...and I ended up being a decent cook...so I am not complaining now...:DMore importantly, it's in various types of beer :(

Being serious for a moment though, don't you guys have vegan shops like bakers & such? I cook a lot, but there's limits. We have neither the time nor inclination to make everything ourselves. We'd both be stuck in the kitchen all day long otherwise.

More importantly, it's in various types of beer :(

Is it not the case that beer is more likely to contain isinglas, rather than gelatine?

Is it not the case that beer is more likely to contain isinglas, rather than gelatine?Not "rather than". Isinglass is a type of fish-based gelatine.

Not necessarily. Modern meat animals have been bred over the last several hundred years to produce the maximum amount of meat and to be very docile. As a result they have lost most of their natural instincts. They bear almost no similarity to their wild ancestors. Most (if not all) would not survive in the wild. They need human care to survive because we made them that way.

Are you sure you arent talking about dairy animals? Because around here most cattle areon open rangeland and only get moved out of the wild during calving and for a short stay at a feedlot directly before the are sold.

Feral pigs do just fine in the wild and are in fact problematic because of this. Rabbits are even worse in this respect.

Some species of domesticated chickens do well feral but others seem not to make it

Feral sheep can individually live in the wild for years but I think that you are right, most types of domesticated sheep would go extinct if left to their own devices.

Domesticated turkeys are barely smart enough to survive in captivity with all the help we can give them. Except for the docile part turkeys are exactly as you described. The are big stupid dependant things with a mean streak that taste wonderful.

Im not sure how wellferal goats might fare, but they arent very good to eat anyway. Except when they are slow cooked in a deep pit barbecue where they become delicious.

Catfish salmon and trout all do just fine if they get freed from hatcheries or feeding ponds into the wild.

BLECH, no. Oh HELL no. I don't care what your diet is, your semen will never be tasty. That girl is GROSS.
you do realised that you've just lowered the chances that guys on these forums will become vegetarian? if you hadn't have said this, they might have tried it using that as an incentive.
just think about it:
hey baby, you like cherrie pie?

Why are the vast majority of vegetarians female?

You might as well ask why most Barbie collectors are female.

Or why most hunters are men.

Or why most people are in the majority.

More importantly, it's in various types of beer :(

That sucks. I have never thought about it.

I cook a lot, but there's limits. We have neither the time nor inclination to make everything ourselves. We'd both be stuck in the kitchen all day long otherwise.

Practice makes perfection. My staple food is

1. roti/chapathi - Mix the wheat flour with water and make the small rounds (usually I do this enough for a week - takes about 15 mins) which I flatten and heat whenever I want to (I don't have to be actively doing this part - I can do other stuff when this is being done)

2. rice - keep in the cooker - takes about active time of 2 mins.

and then the curry/sambar/chutney/rasam part which I make enough for two days at one time - takes about 30 mins active time.

I actually spend less time (and money) this way than I was when I used to eat out and eat meat a year back. My food related expenses used to be 400$ plus and now it is 150$ or so.