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A Dove Shoot. (http://www.gawker.com/news/politics/on-911-the-south-remembers-why-they-get-a-bad-rap-199085.php)

It is however, quintessentially Republican.

"To comemmorate the worst attack our nation has suffered in most living memory, let's get together and kill the symbol for peace."

Doves should be a protected species, since they are the symbol of peace and all. Espcecially the common grey doves, because that's what they're shooting.

Doves should be a protected species, since they are the symbol of peace and all. Espcecially the common grey doves, because that's what they're shooting.

It would of been more symbolic of the republicans to go a "Hawking" like in the Middle Ages to hunt those doves. Complete with full armor, swords, hawks on the wrist, and horses big enough to carry all that bulk (and that doesn't include their FAT ASSES!).

It would of been more symbolic of the republicans to go a "Hawking" like in the Middle Ages to hunt those doves. Complete with full armor, swords, hawks on the wrist, and horses big enough to carry all that bulk (and that doesn't include their FAT ASSES!).

Why would you wear armour to go hawking thats a tights activity:D

Deja vu. I could've sworn I saw something in a similair situation.

Cost of shoot $1000 (casual attire)? Dammit! If I'm paying $1000 to shoot at something I wanna look good! And I want other people to look too, not being surrounded by hobbos!

Why would you wear armour to go hawking thats a tights activity:D

Oh dear god! The mental image has come...

OH MY GOD MY VIRGIN EYES!!!:eek:

It would of been more symbolic of the republicans to go a "Hawking" like in the Middle Ages to hunt those doves. Complete with full armor, swords, hawks on the wrist, and horses big enough to carry all that bulk (and that doesn't include their FAT ASSES!).

So very insightful.

I guess it's good practice for shooting protestors?

I guess it's good practice for shooting protestors?

I thought Republican's shot their best friends first, (I think they save the protestors so they can be burnt at the stake as witches once the Republicans have made America a Theocracy).

It would of been more symbolic of the republicans to go a "Hawking" like in the Middle Ages to hunt those doves. Complete with full armor, swords, hawks on the wrist, and horses big enough to carry all that bulk (and that doesn't include their FAT ASSES!).


Yeah, those Republicans are very fat!

Consider:
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/3239.jpg;http://www.sitevip.net/michael-moore/images/indexpic.jpg

Please, stop the silly stereotypes. :rolleyes:

My bus driver informed us two weeks ago that dove-hunting season was about to start. I guess he was right..

Doves should be a protected species, since they are the symbol of peace and all. Espcecially the common grey doves, because that's what they're shooting.

That's about as ridiculous as 'celebrating' 9/11 as a memorial day.

Yeah, those Republicans are very fat!

Consider:
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/3239.jpg;http://www.sitevip.net/michael-moore/images/indexpic.jpg

Please, stop the silly stereotypes. :rolleyes:

http://jacobswellchurch.org/blogs/jason/archives/New%20Image.JPG

That's about as ridiculous as 'celebrating' 9/11 as a memorial day.

Yeah, fuck all those people who died. Why should they be remembered?
And it's the same as shooting common wild doves, right?



@ Wilgrove - That picture made me happy, then very scared.

Yeah, fuck all those people who died. Why should they be remembered?
And it's the same as shooting common wild doves, right?



@ Wilgrove - That picture made me happy, then very scared.

Yea, I was in my American President class, and this guy thought that Hillary was hot. :eek:

Yea, I was in my American President class, and this guy thought that Hillary was hot. :eek:

2:1 he thought Janet Reno was hot too.

2:1 he thought Janet Reno was hot too.

Jeezus, if he thinks that too, he either needs to gouge his eyes out or get glasses!

http://jacobswellchurch.org/blogs/jason/archives/New%20Image.JPG

Quite obviously the republicans have sold their souls for good looks.

Duh.

Quite obviously the republicans have sold their souls for good looks.

Duh.

Do Democrats have souls?

Do Democrats have souls?
The Democrats sold their souls for power.
The Republicans did too, but they got the good looks thrown in as an "extra" because they were best friends with the dealer.

Yea, I was in my American President class, and this guy thought that Hillary was hot. :eek:

That doesn't seem that weird to me. Though that silly photo doesn't show it, I'd say she's a pretty decent-looking woman for being nearly 60, and she was quite definitely attractive 10-15 years ago, presuming one's into the politician's-wife look.

On the other hand, by the time Ann Couter is 58, I bet she'll look like a scary, scary skeleton of scariness. Eek.

That doesn't seem that weird to me. Though that silly photo doesn't show it, I'd say she's a pretty decent-looking woman for being nearly 60, and she was quite definitely attractive 10-15 years ago, presuming one's into the politician's-wife look.

On the other hand, by the time Ann Couter is 58, I bet she'll look like a scary, scary skeleton of scariness. Eek.

Only woman I know who looks good at any age above 50 is that one woman who does the ads for Bowflex.

Only woman I know who looks good at any age above 50 is that one woman who does the ads for Bowflex.

My mom looks pretty good for being 50.

On the other hand, by the time Ann Couter is 58, I bet she'll look like a scary, scary skeleton of scariness. Eek.

Well, duh. She already does.

Well, duh. She already does.

Come now. She's not that bad.

Come now. She's not that bad.

You're right. She just looks like an emaciated hermaphrodite.

My mom looks pretty good for being 50.

No comment.

Yeah, fuck all those people who died. Why should they be remembered?
And it's the same as shooting common wild doves, right?


You missed the point. Memorial Days should not be glorified excuses for a party. Neither should the remembering be foisted upon people who don't care to wallow in others misery at every opportunity. Yes we appreciate lives were lost. Lives are lost to hunger, war, terrorism and worse all over the world every day. What makes this one so special? That it took the USA by surprise? That it was broadcast live worldwide?
What about having a Lady Diana Day that the USA is forced to recognise? Or maybe Hiroshima Day (August 6th, I believe)? Would you be so vociferous in shouting about how we should remember those victims?

My mom looks pretty good for being 50.

I dunno, tell her to wear less makeup.

Just a stupid bird who cares. I mean it's a dove, it's not like it's a beautiful bird to look at. An Eagle is a fine and majestic bird to gaze upon, but the dove looks like a pigeon, and pigeons seagulls, they all need to die. All they do is crap. If you make an animal a protected species, then you fuck things up. First of all an animal does not need to be a protected species if there are more than 2 fem and 2 male animals in the zoo. Then corporate businesses will be shut down for getting rid of a protected species from their stores, or removing their nests, or because it's pregnant. I say if it strolls around the streets, and it strolls around businesses, kill it. My future is more important than some stupid animal's. Besides we can just genetically engineer them in the future.

Anyways a bit off subject? I think the worst commeration is the 9/11 coin, where you can make the silver twin towers stan ontop of the coins, then when it's done standing you can put it back down. Awful or what?

You missed the point. Memorial Days should not be glorified excuses for a party. Neither should the remembering be foisted upon people who don't care to wallow in others misery at every opportunity. Yes we appreciate lives were lost. Lives are lost to hunger, war, terrorism and worse all over the world every day. What makes this one so special? That it took the USA by surprise? That it was broadcast live worldwide?
What about having a Lady Diana Day that the USA is forced to recognise? Or maybe Hiroshima Day (August 6th, I believe)? Would you be so vociferous in shouting about how we should remember those victims?

.... What does international politics have to do with this? Who's forcing you to go to an invitation-only privately-hosted event? Seriously, where'd you pull that out of?

I don't know about any of you, but here in the US, we have Memorial day...

Memorial Day is a United States federal holiday that is observed on the last Monday of May (most recently observed May 29, 2006). It was formerly known as Decoration Day. This holiday commemorates U.S. men and women who have died in military service to their country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_day
You know that the big thing for Memorial day weekend is to get the day off from work, burn some burgers, and have a few beers with friends and family. Isn't that a party?

Yeah, those Republicans are very fat!

Consider:
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/3239.jpg;http://www.sitevip.net/michael-moore/images/indexpic.jpg

Please, stop the silly stereotypes. :rolleyes:

So...theyre all fat, except that heartless, undead, bile spewing, malificent succubus...got it.

Cost of shoot $1000 (casual attire)? Dammit! If I'm paying $1000 to shoot at something I wanna look good! And I want other people to look too, not being surrounded by hobbos!Casual attire... oops... I read that as "carnal attire"...

My mom looks pretty good for being 50.

The less said about this, the better.

The less said about this, the better.

But it's so Sig worthy, I'm considering using it.

But it's so Sig worthy, I'm considering using it.

lol, well I got that line from an MST3K movie. it went something like this

Movie: The oldest son seats his mother like she was his best gal
Robot: The less said about this, the better.

and yea.

My mom looks pretty good for being 50.

Yeah, but your sister does that thing with her tongue...

Hehe, that reminds me of this:

What's the bird of peace?
The Dove.
What's the bird of love?
The swallow.

Anyway - I just saw this thread now (why so late?) and think that indeed it is the worst way to remember. I bet Dick Cheney would've loved to come, though... :D

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/dove.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/shotgun.gif

A dove is only a symbol of peace if it is holding an olive branch. If a dove is not holding an olive branch, they are fair game.

Yeah, but your sister does that thing with her tongue...

Ohh yea, mmmmmmm, dammit now I'm horny.

You'd think the religious right would have moral objections to shooting the animal whose form that the Holy Spirit took when Jesus was baptized, but noooo...

What better way to celebrate America than to spend $1,000 dollars to shoot small, harmless (and most likely domesticated) birds? It's almost as dumb as buying a Hummer to show your masculinity, but not quite.

... I don't know how many times I have to reiterate this...


They are NOT shooting at the 'white' doves that symbol peace, but your common grey doves.

The pigeons and doves are some 300 species of near passerine birds in the order Columbiformes. The terms "dove" and "pigeon" are used interchangeably, although smaller species are more likely to be called doves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dove

FFS, they're shooting common mourning doves. White doves don't live in the wild, and you don't spend loads of money to buy them just to shoot them. They're going pigeon-shooting. Nothing more, nothing less.


And bird shooting is a common social gathering in the souther part of the states (not to exclude other parts). It's part of the culture. They're free to memorialize any way they want. Who are you to critize them for that?

Who are you to critize them for that?

Elitist liberals can criticize anybody who does not conform to their high-brow method of celebrating, mourning, or remembering. They do it all the time, in extremely snobbish and salient methods; they think they are above such common "Bible-belt, hickish" ceremonies such as shooting birds, and they make it their personal crusade to tell the world of the butchery, horror, and lack of civilization evident in the American South.

You sure this isn't fake?

You know how ugly people are usually smarter than pretty people (out of need, IIRC)?

Would you rather have a really hot chick ruling over you?

or

Someone who thinks of things like, increasing the country's small business incentives and technology grants to foment GDP growth? (made up example)

hmm, shoes or prosperity.

That picture illustrates a much deeper message than the one obvious from the simple examination of it. By recognizing that republican women are "hotter" you open up the logical (by deduction) conclusion that whatever the republicans say is less intellectually-inclined, and conversely, that whatever the democrats say is more intellectually-inclined.

But sadly, since people are such fucking dumbasses, they'd still vote for a pretty face over someone who knows what they're doing.

The american united states a treacherous road treads, yes. The road of ignorance and complacency it is. [/yoda]

You know how ugly people are usually smarter than pretty people (out of need, IIRC)?

No, I don't. That's because it's total, unsubstantiated, bullshit. Are you saying that because of some evolutionary mechanism, people who are attractive cannot be intelligent?

Begoner21;11682163']Elitist liberals can criticize anybody who does not conform to their high-brow method of celebrating, mourning, or remembering. They do it all the time, in extremely snobbish and salient methods; they think they are above such common "Bible-belt, hickish" ceremonies such as shooting birds, and they make it their personal crusade to tell the world of the butchery, horror, and lack of civilization evident in the American South.

And who says there's not something wrong with shooting another living being for no reason except the fun of it? It's not like they're going to -eat- them. That's just my personal point of view, but I'm sure at least enough of a case could be made for it, especially given the date, that you'd look a little silly getting -that- indignant over it. *shrug*

Begoner21;11682217']No, I don't. That's because it's total, unsubstantiated, bullshit. Are you saying that because of some evolutionary mechanism, people who are attractive cannot be intelligent?

Nope, a psychological mechanism. And not "cannot", but "are less likely to".

This is the worst case of "lets viscously attack a majority, for the acts of a very small minority" I have ever seen.

Typical hypocritical liberalism.

Nope, a psychological mechanism. And not "cannot", but "are less likely to".

Care to expound upon that? How does psychology have anything to do with intelligence? You could be fucking crazy and a genius simultaneously (case in point, John Nash). Are you saying that if you have the smart "gene" you are less likely to have the "hot" gene and vice versa?

And who says there's not something wrong with shooting another living being for no reason except the fun of it? It's not like they're going to -eat- them. That's just my personal point of view, but I'm sure at least enough of a case could be made for it, especially given the date, that you'd look a little silly getting -that- indignant over it. *shrug*



Nope, a psychological mechanism. And not "cannot", but "are less likely to".

Who said they're not going to do something with the downed birds? Plenty of hunters donate spare meat to food panries that feed the poor and such. Who's to say they're not going to do the same?
The whole 'hunting' debate is for another time.



And FYI, my girlfriend is on the National Deans list, hasn't gotten anything below a 95% on her business management tests... and is a model.

And FYI, my girlfriend is on the National Deans list, hasn't gotten anything below a 95% on her business management tests... and is a model.

I'm afraid you must be mistaken. She's hot, therefore she's stupid. She's stupid, therefore she could not have gotten 95%+ on all her business management tests. I see no flaw in that particular chain of logic -- it seems to flow perfectly.

Begoner21;11682217']No, I don't. That's because it's total, unsubstantiated, bullshit. Are you saying that because of some evolutionary mechanism, people who are attractive cannot be intelligent?

Stop assuming crap. I didn't say that, notice the "usually". And it's a recognized psychological effect. Pretty people, growing up, can get more stuff on their looks exclusively than they can on intellect, which comes a bit harder (not because of the looks. ugly kids get smart by reading and building legos and all that jazz). when you're the center of attention exclusively because of your looks. So beautiful people tend to become, once they reach adulthood, "less smart" people. I'm not saying they're dumb, because some of they can have extremely high IQs and logical connection mechanisms, but they will be less likely to do things like, say, advance the field of philosophy, while a person who spent his childhood reading greek mythology will probably come to it much easier than someone who spent his childhood being ogled at by the chicks 6 grades over him, saying he's gonna be hot when he's bigger.

Begoner21;11682268']I'm afraid you must be mistaken. She's hot, therefore she's stupid. She's stupid, therefore she could not have gotten 95%+ on all her business management tests. I see no flaw in that particular chain of logic -- it seems to flow perfectly.

Either that or you've had some bad relationship problems.

Begoner21;11682163']Elitist liberals can criticize anybody who does not conform to their high-brow method of celebrating, mourning, or remembering. They do it all the time, in extremely snobbish and salient methods; they think they are above such common "Bible-belt, hickish" ceremonies such as shooting birds, and they make it their personal crusade to tell the world of the butchery, horror, and lack of civilization evident in the American South.

Elitist liberals? Are people still buying that tripe?

Conservatives control the government, the corporations, and the religious discourse, and liberals are the elitists because we value knowing what the fuck you're talking about... Oh, sorry, "intellectuals."

How disgusting. Just thinking of the sick joy all these non doubt "pro-life" (and I use the term loosely) Republicans took in killing these birds as a substitute for human doves. I'm sure they would kill anti-war protestors if it was legal.

Conservatives control the government

Because the government is democratic. It makes sense that the party of the people is in power while the party of the elitist fringe is not.

How disgusting. Just thinking of the sick joy all these non doubt "pro-life" (and I use the term loosely) Republicans took in killing these birds as a substitute for human doves. I'm sure they would kill anti-war protestors if it was legal.

I'm sure anyone would kill anyone if it was legal...

Thank you for expressing your opinion.


BTW, what's a 'human dove'?

Begoner21;11682343']Because the government is democratic. It makes sense that the party of the people is in power while the party of the elitist fringe is not.




...


You're wrong.

Somehow...


"But they're rich, so they bought all the votes." or "But (insert common denial involving money and/or voting problems here)"

Begoner21;11682163']they make it their personal crusade to tell the world of the butchery, horror, and lack of civilization evident in the American South.
The American South is the west's (slightly more moderate) equivalent of Ahedjimad's Iran. Which will go first?

Begoner21;11682343']Because the government is democratic. It makes sense that the party of the people is in power while the party of the elitist fringe is not.
If they're not in power then they're hardly an elite. And this statement can't be taken seriously when 49% of people vote for "the party of the elitist fringe".

Look at the ad. Not many of "the people" have $1,100 to throw away on a dove shoot.

The American South is the west's (slightly more moderate) equivalent of Ahedjimad's Iran. Which will go first?

What a horifically uninformed opinion.

Begoner21;11682268']I'm afraid you must be mistaken. She's hot, therefore she's stupid. She's stupid, therefore she could not have gotten 95%+ on all her business management tests. I see no flaw in that particular chain of logic -- it seems to flow perfectly.

I DID NOT SAY THAT.

beauty \/ intelligence... it can be the case that both variables are true. there are always exceptions to a rule. I am not talking about innate intelligence, the kind geniuses have (george lucas, for instance, was a straight D student, and I'll be the first to advocate his genius-ness). I did not say anything about grades either, I am a firm believer in the "grades don't mean that you're smart or stupid in either way, you can be a complete idiot who gets straight A's and vice versa." thing. I have no doubt that your girlfriend is an A+++ student and a model at the same time.

The "intelligence" I was talking about is the kind that comes through extensive studying and hard work. Notice that most of the people on the republican picture are stuff like radio hosts or talk show hosts or some other kind of host. The democrat picture is mostly politicians.(I don't know every single person in either picture, so don't go on another rampage over that). To become a talk show host you need to study nothing in particular. To become a politician you need to study law/economics/SOMETHING.

So, the same case as kindergarten. The show hosts get by on their looks and wit, while the politicians get by on their knowledge of how a country works and politics, which is a complicated field.

What a horifically uninformed opinion.
Seems to be the last major part of the west where hypocritical religious fundamentalism is mainstream, killing in defence of property is seen as good and hatred of minorities is rife.

I DID NOT SAY THAT.

beauty \/ intelligence... it can be the case that both variables are true. there are always exceptions to a rule. I am not talking about innate intelligence, the kind geniuses have (george lucas, for instance, was a straight D student, and I'll be the first to advocate his genius-ness). I did not say anything about grades either, I am a firm believer in the "grades don't mean that you're smart or stupid in either way, you can be a complete idiot who gets straight A's and vice versa." thing. I have no doubt that your girlfriend is an A+++ student and a model at the same time.

The "intelligence" I was talking about is the kind that comes through extensive studying and hard work. Notice that most of the people on the republican picture are stuff like radio hosts or talk show hosts or some other kind of host. The democrat picture is mostly politicians.(I don't know every single person in either picture, so don't go on another rampage over that). To become a talk show host you need to study nothing in particular. To become a politician you need to study law/economics/SOMETHING.

So, the same case as kindergarten. The show hosts get by on their looks and wit, while the politicians get by on their knowledge of how a country works and politics, which is a complicated field.


extensive studying and hard work
=
an A+++ student


And to be a politician, you don't really have to do anything. There's no real set application process with prequisets aside from having certain political beliefs.

To become a talk show host you need to study nothing in particular.

To be a talk show host you need a number of qualities which are important in politicians. First of all, you need to be well-informed of current and past events -- you must be prepared for whatever your guest may throw at you. You'll look pretty stupid if he says something and you're left stuttering in the dust. Second, you must be a quick thinker on your feet. You don't have the luxury of pondering a repartee for half an hour. Third, you must be a good debater. Obviously, this is essential in a talk show. To be a good debater, you need to have a healthy grasp of logic, philosophy, etc. Being a talk show host is not as easy as it seems, and it certainly isn't just being a pretty face.

I made the distinction between getting grades and generally being smart. I didn't say his girlfriend was dumb. To become a PhD in economics, a much larger degree of studying is required than needed to become a radio host.

The difference between extensive studying and being a good student isn't exactly subtle. Extensive studying means actually knowing the subject, reading loads of books about it, knowing everything humanly possible about a subject, so that you can become an authority on it.

Getting good grades means studying exclusively whatever the professor throws at you. It's WAAAAAY easier to do than the above, and it's still quite a bit hard. A student who asks "will this be on the exam?" is a grade-getter. A student who gets a background feeling about the topic, pays attention to anything the teacher says and debates with the teacher whatever he disagrees with is a knower. Knowers tend to have the ability to dispense themselves of doing things like studying for the exam.

The difference is that, instead of having a recording machine in their eyes during class, and a photograph of a textbook in their minds the day the exam happens to be on, knowers will KNOW the subject. If the class was western philosophy, and the class went over Socrates, Kant and Marx, the knower will know about Nietzche, Descartes, Hume and Spinoza.

Now, to get back to the beautiful vs less beautiful in intelligence, the less beautiful tend to be more commonly knowers, while the beautiful tend to be more commonly grade-getters. Notice how I left that statement open to all possibilities, including, but not limited to, a really hot chick who is a knower.

man, you gotta be a lawyer to debate around here...

As for that bit on the politicians, I guess that is true, but a politician can only get so far exclusively on charisma. There comes a point where he actually needs to know what he's talking about.

Begoner21;11682446']To be a talk show host you need a number of qualities which are important in politicians. First of all, you need to be well-informed of current and past events -- you must be prepared for whatever your guest may throw at you. You'll look pretty stupid if he says something and you're left stuttering in the dust. Second, you must be a quick thinker on your feet. You don't have the luxury of pondering a repartee for half an hour. Third, you must be a good debater. Obviously, this is essential in a talk show. To be a good debater, you need to have a healthy grasp of logic, philosophy, etc. Being a talk show host is not as easy as it seems, and it certainly isn't just being a pretty face.

With the singular exception of george w bush, politicians usually have to have a degree from somewhere in something relevant to the rule of a country, as well as being in posession of a long-term thinking brain. Everything you say in this post is true, and don't think I don't appreciate the work of hosts such as McLaughlin.

I made the distinction between getting grades and generally being smart. I didn't say his girlfriend was dumb. To become a PhD in economics, a much larger degree of studying is required than needed to become a radio host.

The difference between extensive studying and being a good student isn't exactly subtle. Extensive studying means actually knowing the subject, reading loads of books about it, knowing everything humanly possible about a subject, so that you can become an authority on it.

Getting good grades means studying exclusively whatever the professor throws at you. It's WAAAAAY easier to do than the above, and it's still quite a bit hard. A student who asks "will this be on the exam?" is a grade-getter. A student who gets a background feeling about the topic, pays attention to anything the teacher says and debates with the teacher whatever he disagrees with is a knower. Knowers tend to have the ability to dispense themselves of doing things like studying for the exam.

The difference is that, instead of having a recording machine in their eyes during class, and a photograph of a textbook in their minds the day the exam happens to be on, knowers will KNOW the subject. If the class was western philosophy, and the class went over Socrates, Kant and Marx, the knower will know about Nietzche, Descartes, Hume and Spinoza.

Now, to get back to the beautiful vs less beautiful in intelligence, the less beautiful tend to be more commonly knowers, while the beautiful tend to be more commonly grade-getters. Notice how I left that statement open to all possibilities, including, but not limited to, a really hot chick who is a knower.

man, you gotta be a lawyer to debate around here...

As for that bit on the politicians, I guess that is true, but a politician can only get so far exclusively on charisma. There comes a point where he actually needs to know what he's talking about.

That is all quite valid. But, for the record, my girlfriend takes corrispondence courses. Her only interaction with her instructor is over the internet when she takes her tests.
"Tend to be"? Or statistically proven? There's a difference between steriotypes and truth.

It's not the beauty itself that makes the person smarter or less smarterer. It's the growth conditions. If you put Tyra banks through the exact same life Bill gates had, you'd get Tyra banks, gates version, fmr CEO of microsoft inc.

Of course, that's impossible, since the simple fact that she's a woman would completely change everything.

It's not the beauty itself that makes the person smarter or less smarterer. It's the growth conditions. If you put Tyra banks through the exact same life Bill gates had, you'd get Tyra banks, gates version, fmr CEO of microsoft inc.

Of course, that's impossible, since the simple fact that she's a woman would completely change everything.

I hope that last sentence was just sarcasim/satire. It's hard to convey that emotion over the Internet.

Anyways, you point is valid, but the arguement that "beautiful = dumb, ugly = smart" (which was the original argument) isn't grounded in anything solid.

Ah, OK, I get what you mean and I agree. Since being hot opens other doors and possibilities which being ugly does not afford, it is likely that the concentration of hot people will be more diluted in intellectual pursuits because some would also choose fashion, while ugly people cannot.

This year I greeted everybody in my department with a hearty, "Happy 9/11, everybody!" before realizing I'd said it instead of just thinking it.

But I'm like that before I have my first coffee of the day.

It got a laugh, though...

This year I greeted everybody in my department with a hearty, "Happy 9/11, everybody!" before realizing I'd said it instead of just thinking it.

But I'm like that before I have my first coffee of the day.

It got a laugh, though...

You don't live in the US, do you? Here, you'd probably be publicly stoned for saying something like that (and not the good stoned, either -- the Medieval kind).

This year I greeted everybody in my department with a hearty, "Happy 9/11, everybody!" before realizing I'd said it instead of just thinking it.

But I'm like that before I have my first coffee of the day.

It got a laugh, though...

Jeez, what do you do for an encore? Tell Christians "Happy Good Friday!"? Wish some Jewish friends "Happy Kristallnacht!"? Wish a Canadian a "Good day of shooting!"?

:rolleyes:

I hope that last sentence was just sarcasim/satire. It's hard to convey that emotion over the Internet.

Anyways, you point is valid, but the arguement that "beautiful = dumb, ugly = smart" (which was the original argument) isn't grounded in anything solid.

Like I said, it's not the beauty itself that makes a person smart or not. it's not like intelligence is reversely proportionate to beauty or anything like that, especially since beauty is a very relative thing.

I meant that last sentence, though I thought about it for a while before typing it knowing it would be misinterpreted. I didn't mean it in a machismo way, but you can't seriously say that sex isn't one of the determining factors in one's life, especially if you throw machismo into the equation...

Yes, and after we shoot doves we can go and kill whales for Green Peace

Than we could screw eachother to promote abstinance

And after that lets ride around in Hummers to promote safety for the environment!

Argh!:headbang:

Do you get what I'm saying???

:sniper: :mp5: :gundge:

Yes, and after we shoot doves we can go and kill whales for Green Peace

Than we could screw eachother to promote abstinance

And after that lets ride around in Hummers to promote safety for the environment!

Argh!:headbang:

Do you get what I'm saying???

:sniper: :mp5: :gundge:

What would be better? A day of marksmanship or a day of flight lessons?

Begoner21;11682828']You don't live in the US, do you? Here, you'd probably be publicly stoned for saying something like that (and not the good stoned, either -- the Medieval kind).

Serves you right. Far right. And no, I live in the free world.

Serves you right. Far right. And no, I live in the free world.

You're welcome.

Jeez, what do you do for an encore? Tell Christians "Happy Good Friday!"? Wish some Jewish friends "Happy Kristallnacht!"? Wish a Canadian a "Good day of shooting!"?

:rolleyes:

I usually just stick to well-wishing at the solstii and equinoxes. I was blithely saying it in the spirit of, 'happy commemoration of a surprise day off work we all enjoyed five years ago'.

I blame the not first having had a coffee. And yeah, I once wished a Christian a Happy Good Friday...

Whaaat?

A Dove Shoot. (http://www.gawker.com/news/politics/on-911-the-south-remembers-why-they-get-a-bad-rap-199085.php)

It is however, quintessentially Republican.

"To comemmorate the worst attack our nation has suffered in most living memory, let's get together and kill the symbol for peace."
Umm... the Boy Scout Council holds Turkey Shoots every year... we don't shoot turkeys but targets.

the same could be for this. It's a bad title... and a misleading one. but doesn't mention anything about actually shooting anything.

http://jacobswellchurch.org/blogs/jason/archives/New%20Image.JPG

Dammmmmmmmmmnnn, those Democrats are smokin' hot babes!

I know I said Democrat.