NationStates Jolt Archive

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Unfortunately, I think things are going to get a lot worse before the get better.

Unfortunately, I think things are going to get a lot worse before the get better.

It took the goddamned Black Death to get rid of feudalism in the Middle Ages and WWII to get rid of imperialism, so there's kind of a well-established history of shit hitting the fan before things improve. I guess it's comforting that it's usually one hell of an improvement, but that doesn't make the SHTF period better for the people involved...

Very lovely.

The economic numbers are funny. They spend 100 billion on development projects amoungst these 100 people, yes ~59% live on at or less than $2 a day?


Holy balls they're lousy with money!

The economic numbers are funny. They spend 100 billion on development projects amoungst these 100 people, yes ~59% live on at or less than $2 a day?


Holy balls they're lousy with money!

I think rather than try to explain the very complicated math involved in scaling down the entire world's budget to 100 people they just left some of those numbers as they really are.

It took the goddamned Black Death to get rid of feudalism in the Middle Ages and WWII to get rid of imperialism, so there's kind of a well-established history of shit hitting the fan before things improve. I guess it's comforting that it's usually one hell of an improvement, but that doesn't make the SHTF period better for the people involved...

WWII didn't get rid of imperialism, it reduced it to a few imperialist powers...

I think rather than try to explain the very complicated math involved in scaling down the entire world's budget to 100 people they just left some of those numbers as they really are.

Yeah but it ends up making the entire thing look absurd. Reducing the wealth the same way they reduced the numbers would of worked well enough. Though the number they came up with for the under a dollar a day folks would of been absurdly tiny.

WWII didn't get rid of imperialism, it reduced it to a few imperialist powers...

I think he meant colonialism...

WWII didn't get rid of imperialism, it reduced it to a few imperialist powers...

It finished off hard imperialism; namely, the direct accquisition of colonies and the like that had dominated the 19th century.

Just another sympathetic hogwash to make people feel sad about the state the world is in.

Just another sympathetic hogwash to make people feel sad about the state the world is in.

The world's state does have quite a degree of sadness.

Just another sympathetic hogwash to make people feel sad about the state the world is in.

You should feel sad about it. It's in a sad state.

Just another sympathetic hogwash to make people feel sad about the state the world is in.

I didn't know hogwash could be singular. Did you isolate a single hogwash molecule or something?

I didn't know hogwash could be singular. Did you isolate a single hogwash molecule or something?

Symbol: Hw
Atomic Mass: 7.0024
Propeties: foolish talk or writing; nonsense.


P.S. But yes, I wanted to mention that.

I didn't know hogwash could be singular. Did you isolate a single hogwash molecule or something?

No, it's a place where rednecks wash their hogs - like a car wash.

I want to live on Miniature Earth. One of me for 99 other people? That would be a kickass place! :)

Until a fundamentalist christian killed me. :(

Want to house the homeless? Teach them how and help them to build homes. Want to feed the hungry? Teach them how and help them to fish, hunt, and farm.

Militaries R&D, those technologies will hit the civilian market and make life better for people.

Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day but set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

Symbol: Hw
Atomic Mass: 7.0024
Propeties: foolish talk or writing; nonsense.


P.S. But yes, I wanted to mention that.

:D


No, it's a place where rednecks wash their hogs - like a car wash.
Rednecks don't have hogs... they have trailers. And abused dobermen... stuff like that...

It took the goddamned Black Death to get rid of feudalism in the Middle Ages and WWII to get rid of imperialism, so there's kind of a well-established history of shit hitting the fan before things improve. I guess it's comforting that it's usually one hell of an improvement, but that doesn't make the SHTF period better for the people involved...

Just a thought, but would it be fair to say that we are in one of these periods now, what with the War in Iraq, 9/11 and all the other major political events of the last 5 years.

Just a thought, but would it be fair to say that we are in one of these periods now, what with the War in Iraq, 9/11 and all the other major political events of the last 5 years.

You could say that but then you have to ask what will be lost and what will be gained? If we are to follow the pattern.

Rednecks don't have hogs... they have trailers. And abused dobermen... stuff like that...

I didn't mean hog as in Harley, I meant as in actual hog.

I didn't mean hog as in Harley, I meant as in actual hog.

No shit? I didn't... realise... that... [/deadpan]

You know when I started reading the blurb I was expecting some wacky sitcom about the only 100-person community left on post-apocalyptic Earth, and I was a little disappointed.

You know when I started reading the blurb I was expecting some wacky sitcom about the only 100-person community left on post-apocalyptic Earth, and I was a little disappointed.

Wouldn't be very wacky, the biggest worry would be genetic diversity and disease. That 1 person with HIV could end the species if they didn't know they had it.

I'm willing to do my part to create a more diverse population. :)

Given the small genetic pool I'd say you'd have to have multiple children with muliple women.

Given the small genetic pool I'd say you'd have to have multiple children with muliple women.

Bwahaha! Polygamy shall triumph! ^_^

Wouldn't be very wacky, the biggest worry would be genetic diversity and disease. That 1 person with HIV could end the species if they didn't know they had it.

Well, world-wide, howmany people have HIV?

Well, world-wide, howmany people have HIV?

Something like that doesn't scale well. Honestly if everyone was aware and took precautions it wouldn't be an issue at all. The problem being a lot of people aren't aware they're HIV positive, if we were down to 100 people on the entire planet and they were clustered it could be a major issue. That one person could seriously damage the genetic diversity of the populace, if not threaten to wipe the species out entirely.

Of course it's not just HIV, there's other concerns depending on where these 100 people are. There's animals, poisons, bacteria, infections, enviromental concerns.

Appreciate what you have


good message :)


problem is of course that if you are one of the 30% (iirc) that had a bank account etc, you're caught in a rat race between those other 30 people, and stopping to appreciate what you have is very difficult without dropping out of that 30% (metaphorically speaking)

problem is of course that if you are one of the 30% (iirc) that had a bank account etc, you're caught in a rat race between those other 30 people, and stopping to appreciate what you have is very difficult without dropping out of that 30% (metaphorically speaking)

You have a point (sorta).

Does anyone else find it odd that in the people in the Developed World are usually sadder than in the developing nations?

It's weird.

This again?

You have a point (sorta).

Does anyone else find it odd that in the people in the Developed World are usually sadder than in the developing nations?

It's weird.

Because people in the developing world don't have time to be sad. Their emotional expenditures tend to swing between desperation, fear, religious euphoria and anger and [random neighboring ethnic group x].

Finally ... something worth posting!

You have a point (sorta).

Does anyone else find it odd that in the people in the Developed World are usually sadder than in the developing nations?

It's weird.

i think a fair bit of that may be because we have time to contemplate our own existance (for example) in the developed world, wheras in the 3rd world just surviving is struggle enough.
one of my all-time favourite quotes is "in the modern world, man's struggle is not for survival but for meaning"

there's also the problem of being caught in the rat race. you may want to stop, you may not want to aquire material this and that and compete with everyone else, but you don't have much of a choice in our society. either you do or you end up at the bottom of the heap (with poor quality of life) as others take advantage of you.

then take the fact that we are constantly being manipulated by those with money to get more money. advertisers give us false needs and wants, together with the media, and show us that if we buy their products (these days, buy into the 'lifestyle' they're marketing) we'll be happy. so we work harder to earn the cash to get something that won't actually make us happier; maybe for a very short time it will, but distracting yourself with new material goods is a short term fix for a larger problem. a problem that i can't, myself, put words to really, or summarise in a sentence. a set of problems that culminate in unhappiness, greed, and an endless and pointless cycle.

http://www.altruists.org/ideas/society/consumerism/


(who says i'm cynical??)

good message :)


problem is of course that if you are one of the 30% (iirc) that had a bank account etc, you're caught in a rat race between those other 30 people, and stopping to appreciate what you have is very difficult without dropping out of that 30% (metaphorically speaking)

Just suck back a big fat bong load and wash it down with a forty of O'E'. :)

Well, world-wide, howmany people have HIV?

i might be going out on a limb here, but i'd say "appx. 1%"?

[edit] on second thought, was that HIV statistic only for a certian age group? if that's the case, then it's probably more like 2-4% :(

i might be going out on a limb here, but i'd say "appx. 1%"?

[edit] on second thought, was that HIV statistic only for a certian age group? if that's the case, then it's probably more like 2-4% :(

120,000,000 to 240,000,000?

120,000,000 to 240,000,000?

*drags out a calculator* appx. 6,500,000,000 * 0.02 = 130,000,000

so yeah, if my guessed percentage is correct, than somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 million people have HIV. yowzah.

Hm, this video has impressed me with a very interesting fact.
Namely: You fuckers are all oppressing me; what with your having fridges and "improved" water sources (whatever that means).
*plots against "the man"*

More importantly, I've never understood how other people having it worse than me should make me feel better or more content. I don't go to the movies because I'm in some sort of perverse competition my 19-year-old Chinese counterpart who works at a sweat shop 16 hours a day; I go to the movies because I want to personally enjoy myself.

Last I checked, a 1% infection rate didn't constitute an epidemic.

You know what 53 of the people in that village need? A sweatshop. It would improve their lives significantly.

Boohoo...?

Is this supposed to upset me? I'm already aware of the inequities in the world. Absurd metaphors do no one any good.