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Fourth NS General election: participating parties

Ariddia
10-09-2006, 16:46
The election is OVER. Thank you to all who took part. The results can be found here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11772706&postcount=140).


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The election has now begun!

You can cast your vote here (http://www.hlj.me.uk/ns/election/).


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NEW! Important rule here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9041641&postcount=170) (post your new party ideas in this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9041641#post90416410) thread.)

Also: The POLITICAL DEBATE THREAD can be found here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11706345).


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This thread is to announce that your political party will be taking part in the fourth NS General election. This OP will list all participating parties, with a link to their thread and manifesto. When you announce your participation, please provide a link to your party's thread and, if it's not in the party thread OP, to your party's manifesto.

Also note:

Please do not announce your particîpation until your party has

a) at least two members, and

b) a manifesto, at least TEN FULL LINES in length, agreed upon by all party members.

If you've wandered into this thread by accident and have no idea what I'm talking about, see here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608).


List of parties

* Alcohol Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499772)
* Autonomist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499288)
* Choose [Your Pogo Stick] Wisely Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500344)
* Defenderist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11705166#post11705166)
* Democratic Socialist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472567)
* Free Republic Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499170)
* Freedom, Environment and Science Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499248)
* Human Rights Party (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499165)
* Libertarian Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499169)
* Mole and Other Borrowing Rodents Alliance (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11671154)
* New British Imperialist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499781)
* Not Particularly Vicious Black Friday Afternoon Non-Marxist Revolutionary Party for the Reunification of Gondwanaland (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499310)
* Opportunity & Fairness Meritocratic Party thread (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499585)
* PUNKS AND PIRATES Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500261)
* Religious Conservative Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499166)
* United Democratic Communist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418610)
Greill
10-09-2006, 16:54
The Free Republic Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499170) is ready.
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 17:13
The Free Republic Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499170) is ready.

Added!
Greill
10-09-2006, 17:19
Added!

w00t!
Wilgrove
10-09-2006, 17:22
The Libertarian Party is ready.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499169
Ieuano
10-09-2006, 17:22
i cant believe ive managed to miss al the other general elections :eek: what have i been doing!
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 17:26
The Libertarian Party is ready.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499169

You seem to have two members, and you've got a manifesto. Just one thing: this is the NS General election, not a US election. Voters will be from many different countries, so please don't refer to policies for a single country (in your case, the US).
IL Ruffino
10-09-2006, 17:46
The Choose Wisely Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499184)

:cool:
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 17:52
The Choose Wisely Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499184)


You've got several members, but your manifesto is too short. Please ask your fellow party members to help you expand it.
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 17:53
Common sense party up

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499236

You've got a manifesto but you've only got one member (yourself).
Soviestan
10-09-2006, 17:55
You've got a manifesto but you've only got one member (yourself).

Oh sorry, I post again when I have people.
Hydesland
10-09-2006, 17:55
As soon as my party has more then two members count it ready:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499235
IL Ruffino
10-09-2006, 17:57
You've got several members, but your manifesto is too short. Please ask your fellow party members to help you expand it.

Will do.

*heads off to add*
Free shepmagans
10-09-2006, 18:11
The Religious Conservative party. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499166)
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 18:16
The Religious Conservative party. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499166)

Added.
Kinda Sensible people
10-09-2006, 18:18
Human Rights Party (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499165)
IL Ruffino
10-09-2006, 18:21
I think I made it better..

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11662651&postcount=1

Is that good?
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 18:28
Human Rights Party (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499165)

Added.
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 18:30
I think I made it better..

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11662651&postcount=1

Is that good?

All right, I'll consider the parts in italics are part of the manifesto text. Added.
IL Ruffino
10-09-2006, 18:34
All right, I'll consider the parts in italics are part of the manifesto text. Added.

Thanks!
Kinda Sensible people
10-09-2006, 18:34
Do we have a date for elections yet, or is that still forthcoming?
Daistallia 2104
10-09-2006, 18:59
The Birthday Party will run again, if we can get the support we need...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499187
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 19:00
Do we have a date for elections yet, or is that still forthcoming?

Let's see... If the elections start in 3 weeks, with the list of parties finalised the day before that, that should be enough time (since campaigning will continue during the election).

Let's say October 1st.
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 19:01
The Birthday Party will run again, if we can get the support we need...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499187

I'll add you as soon as you have at least one other member and a full manifesto.
Daistallia 2104
10-09-2006, 19:04
I'll add you as soon as you have at least one other member and a full manifesto.

:D Unlike last time around, I now understand. Trying to drum up support, as I said. Will get a manifesto out by - when do you want it?
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 19:17
:D Unlike last time around, I now understand. Trying to drum up support, as I said. Will get a manifesto out by - when do you want it?

Hehe... OK; Good luck!

As for when, the provisional closing date for submitting new parties is September 30th, so you've still got plenty of time.
Wilgrove
10-09-2006, 20:02
You seem to have two members, and you've got a manifesto. Just one thing: this is the NS General election, not a US election. Voters will be from many different countries, so please don't refer to policies for a single country (in your case, the US).

Well, How can you make a party for the entire earth?
Ultraviolent Radiation
10-09-2006, 20:42
Well, How can you make a party for the entire earth?

It's a party for a hypothetical nation. NSGeneralia, if you like.
Ultraviolent Radiation
10-09-2006, 20:44
The Freedom, Environment and Science Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499248)
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 21:24
The Freedom, Environment and Science Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499248)

Added.
Pure Metal
10-09-2006, 21:25
how long do we have to nominate our party, aridd? i want to start up a new one but i have yet to write anything or even come up with a name :-S
(i will continue to support the UDCP insofar as i can :))
Ultraviolent Radiation
10-09-2006, 21:30
how long do we have to nominate our party, aridd? i want to start up a new one but i have yet to write anything or even come up with a name :-S
(i will continue to support the UDCP insofar as i can :))

"The Metal Party"? Hell, I'd be tempted to vote for that.
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 21:41
how long do we have to nominate our party, aridd? i want to start up a new one but i have yet to write anything or even come up with a name :-S
(i will continue to support the UDCP insofar as i can :))

Probably until September 30th.

Good to see you around again! :)
Pure Metal
10-09-2006, 22:54
"The Metal Party"? Hell, I'd be tempted to vote for that.
hehe no, if anything the 'Rawlsian Party' would be closest :P

Probably until September 30th.

Good to see you around again! :)

and you sir :D
(and plenty of time - good!)
Soviestan
10-09-2006, 22:59
The Democratic Islamic party is ready.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499264
Ariddia
10-09-2006, 23:15
The Democratic Islamic party is ready.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499264

Your manifesto is a bit short. Also, I'm not convinced Call to power is a member: He (she?) says he'll vote for you, not that he's joining the party.
Dissonant Cognition
11-09-2006, 02:56
Not yet requesting to be included in the list of qualified parties, just adding a link to the party thread in order to get the word out. :D

The Autonomist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499288)
Vegas-Rex
11-09-2006, 03:28
Is anyone interested in a resurgence of the Technocratic Party (this time, with spellcheck!)? If no one is particularly interested I won't bring it back, but if someone is either respond here or TG me.
Soviestan
11-09-2006, 15:13
Your manifesto is a bit short. Also, I'm not convinced Call to power is a member: He (she?) says he'll vote for you, not that he's joining the party.

I have ten lines in manifesto which is all we need. And call to power hasnt objected to being a member. We met the requirements. You can't deny this party simply because you do not want Muslims to have a voice in parliament.
Pure Metal
11-09-2006, 15:31
my new manifesto is almost complete... and its a lot more than 10 lines long :p
will post tonight and *hopefully* get a member or two to join...
Ariddia
11-09-2006, 15:40
I have ten lines in manifesto which is all we need. And call to power hasnt objected to being a member. We met the requirements. You can't deny this party simply because you do not want Muslims to have a voice in parliament.

There's no restriction whatsoever on the type of party allowed. But

a) your manifesto must be ten FULL lines in length (not ten short clauses), and

b) Call to power never said he wanted to be a member. He said he would vote for you. That's very different.
Soviestan
11-09-2006, 16:03
There's no restriction whatsoever on the type of party allowed. But

a) your manifesto must be ten FULL lines in length (not ten short clauses), and

b) Call to power never said he wanted to be a member. He said he would vote for you. That's very different.
your nitpicking. I have ten lines, they are complete sentences and long enough. If Call to power didnt want to be a member he would have objected which he hasn't.
Ariddia
11-09-2006, 16:40
your nitpicking. I have ten lines, they are complete sentences and long enough. If Call to power didnt want to be a member he would have objected which he hasn't.

I'm sorry, but the rules are the same for everyone. "Ten full lines" of text doesn't mean ten half-line clauses. And you don't enroll members without asking and assume they agree to be members if they don't protest: a member is a member when he explicitly says he is. He may not even realise you consider him a member.

To take a RL example, if in a British election you say you intend to cast your vote for the Lib-Dems, that doesn't magically make you a member of the Liberal Democrat party.
Andaluciae
11-09-2006, 17:54
I'd say it might be wise for the UDCP to check up on their party member rolls, there seem to be one or two folks that might not be existent anymore...I might be wrong, but, just random thoughts.
Greill
11-09-2006, 19:43
your nitpicking. I have ten lines, they are complete sentences and long enough. If Call to power didnt want to be a member he would have objected which he hasn't.

I hope you realize that you, instead of using all your time to complain, you could have fulfilled Ariddia's requirements and gotten your party up already.
Soviestan
12-09-2006, 01:26
I hope you realize that you, instead of using all your time to complain, you could have fulfilled Ariddia's requirements and gotten your party up already.

I hope you realise the time you spent writing this post you could have spent doing something useful.
Greill
12-09-2006, 01:29
I hope you realise the time you spent writing this post you could have spent doing something useful.

Hey, it's your party, not mine.
Zatarack
12-09-2006, 01:34
So, what party(ies) so far has(ve) a totaltarian platform?
Soviestan
12-09-2006, 01:38
Hey, it's your party, not mine.

thats kinda the point
Greill
12-09-2006, 01:40
thats kinda the point

I know it's the point, and the current tactic isn't exactly working.

So, what party(ies) so far has(ve) a totaltarian platform?

The National Socialist party, but they're joking. (I hope...)
Trotskylvania
12-09-2006, 01:46
Are we allowed to do polling before the General election? I would like to see how things stand now.
Greill
12-09-2006, 01:50
Are we allowed to do polling before the General election? I would like to see how things stand now.

Ya, you are allowed.
Trotskylvania
12-09-2006, 01:52
Ya, you are allowed.

Woohoo!
Soviestan
12-09-2006, 01:55
I know it's the point, and the current tactic isn't exactly working.



according to you. Its working just fine for me.
Greill
12-09-2006, 02:02
according to you. Its working just fine for me.

Your party still isn't listed, that's why I say it's not working.
Dissonant Cognition
13-09-2006, 02:23
Please do not announce your particîpation until your party has

a) at least two members, and

b) a manifesto, at least TEN FULL LINES in length, agreed upon by all party members.


The Autonomist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499288) would like to officially request addition to the list of qualified parties according to the requirements set out above. We now possess at least two members, as well as a manifesto that is well over 10 lines long.
Wilgrove
13-09-2006, 02:50
I demand you put the Libertarian party on the list, we met every one of your requirement!

Edit: we amended our platform to make it a global party.
Delator
13-09-2006, 08:09
The Autonomist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499288) would like to officially request addition to the list of qualified parties according to the requirements set out above. We now possess two member, as well as a manifesto that is well over 10 lines long.

Make it three members! :)

(check your party thread)
Jello Biafra
13-09-2006, 11:56
I'd say it might be wise for the UDCP to check up on their party member rolls, there seem to be one or two folks that might not be existent anymore...I might be wrong, but, just random thoughts.That would be a good idea, though we have at least two members, so that's good enough for the moment.
Ariddia
13-09-2006, 12:36
The Autonomist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499288) would like to officially request addition to the list of qualified parties according to the requirements set out above. We now possess at least two members, as well as a manifesto that is well over 10 lines long.

Added.
Ariddia
13-09-2006, 12:38
I demand you put the Libertarian party on the list, we met every one of your requirement!

Edit: we amended our platform to make it a global party.

I don't go around checking every party thread on the off chance that it may have been changed. When you bring it to my attention, I look at it, but not before.

Added.
Harlesburg
13-09-2006, 13:21
This thread is to announce that your political party will be taking part in the fourth NS General election. This OP will list all participating parties, with a link to their thread and manifesto. When you announce your participation, please provide a link to your party's thread and, if it's not in the party thread OP, to your party's manifesto.

Also note:

Please do not announce your particîpation until your party has

a) at least two members, and

b) a manifesto, at least TEN FULL LINES in length, agreed upon by all party members.

If you've wandered into this thread by accident and have no idea what I'm talking about, see here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608).


List of parties

* Autonomous Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499288)
* Choose Wisely Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11662651&postcount=1)
* Free Republic Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499170)
* Freedom, Environment and Science Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499248)
* Human Rights Party (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499165)
* Libertarian Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499169)
* Religious Conservative Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499166)
* United Democratic Communist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418610)
I was gonna do this.:(
Depending on whether or not that special program dealie has been done or not...
I think any party which has previously put itself forward for the elections should get put on the ballot sheet before any other(Assuming we have to go back to the 10 option NS Poll system).
If we cannot find 10 'Original' Parties, to fill those 10 slots, i propose a secondary poll to see which 'New' Political parties will get the remaining(If any) slots that remain on the ballot.
Harlesburg
13-09-2006, 13:23
The Mole and Other Borrowing Rodents Alliance. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11671154)
Pure Metal
13-09-2006, 13:32
I think any party which has previously put itself forward for the elections should get put on the ballot sheet before any other(Assuming we have to go back to the 10 option NS Poll system).
If we cannot find 10 'Original' Parties, to fill those 10 slots, i propose a secondary poll to see which 'New' Political parties will get the remaining(If any) slots that remain on the ballot.

i'll do the special secret ballot thing, which will allow me to screen out cheaters and double-voters. i'll submit the spreadsheets of data to NS in a post after i've done the count in case people don't believe i've been accurate or distrust me.

it'll also have room for as many parties as you want. it might be an idea to have two rounds of voting perhaps - all parties and then the top 10 or 7 or something? (assuming there'll be more than 10)
Ariddia
13-09-2006, 13:36
The Mole and Other Borrowing Rodents Alliance. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11671154)

Added!
Ariddia
13-09-2006, 13:37
it might be an idea to have two rounds of voting perhaps - all parties and then the top 10 or 7 or something? (assuming there'll be more than 10)

That could be an idea, yes. Though only if voters want to.
Pure Metal
13-09-2006, 13:46
That could be an idea, yes. Though only if voters want to.

it was just an idea. the important bit is this bit:


it'll also have room for as many parties as you want.
Harlesburg
13-09-2006, 13:47
That could be an idea, yes. Though only if voters want to.
I think it would be more a question of Parliment, i'm so so on the idea of the top 10 parties going into another round.
It aint too bad.
Evil Cantadia
13-09-2006, 14:42
Is there a none of the above option?
Europa Maxima
13-09-2006, 15:17
You seem to have two members, and you've got a manifesto. Just one thing: this is the NS General election, not a US election. Voters will be from many different countries, so please don't refer to policies for a single country (in your case, the US).
Well, I definitely support the NS LP, so count me as a member.
Ariddia
13-09-2006, 15:34
Is there a none of the above option?

No, but I've repeatedly sought support to create a Blank Party, which would be equivalent to a blank vote (i.e., none of the above). No-one's ever been interested, but if you are, let me know.
Dissonant Cognition
13-09-2006, 15:49
Added.

Thanks!

A correction, however. The correct name of the party is "Autonomist (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499288)," instead of "Autonomous." :D


List of parties

* Autonomous Party
* Choose Wisely Party
* Free Republic Party
* Freedom, Environment and Science Party
* Human Rights Party
* Libertarian Party
* Mole and Other Borrowing Rodents Alliance
* Religious Conservative Party
* United Democratic Communist Party
Ariddia
13-09-2006, 16:35
Thanks!

A correction, however. The correct name of the party is "Autonomist (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499288)," instead of "Autonomous." :D

Oops! Sorry... & fixed!

Indeed, "Autonomous Party" wouldn't mean much...
Daistallia 2104
13-09-2006, 17:12
The Birthday Party will run again, if we can get the support we need...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499187

It appears that particular idea is dead. I'm cogitating on another party idea...
Glitziness
13-09-2006, 19:24
You can only be a member of one party, can't you?
*has decision making to do* :p
Pure Metal
13-09-2006, 19:30
You can only be a member of one party, can't you?
*has decision making to do* :p

i'm not sure. i said on the UDCP thread that i'll be starting a new party but want to remain a member of the DCP. aridd didn't object so maybe its ok :P
New Burmesia
13-09-2006, 19:32
i'll do the special secret ballot thing, which will allow me to screen out cheaters and double-voters. i'll submit the spreadsheets of data to NS in a post after i've done the count in case people don't believe i've been accurate or distrust me.

it'll also have room for as many parties as you want. it might be an idea to have two rounds of voting perhaps - all parties and then the top 10 or 7 or something? (assuming there'll be more than 10)

There's no point in doing something if you can't be damn serious about it!:D
Pure Metal
13-09-2006, 19:51
Aridd, we now meet the requirements for party listing i think with two members (including myself), so please add the OFMP :) http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499585


There's no point in doing something if you can't be damn serious about it!:D

i'm a damn serious person underneath ;)
Glitziness
13-09-2006, 19:59
-snip-
I keep reading OFMP as OMFG..... :p
Pure Metal
13-09-2006, 20:10
I keep reading OFMP as OMFG..... :p

me too :(
was even considering changing the party name cos they were way too similar :p
Glitziness
13-09-2006, 20:29
me too :(
was even considering changing the party name cos they were way too similar :p
Hehe, it could be a good thing to draw attention so people want to find out what it's about *nods* :)
Harlesburg
14-09-2006, 10:00
i'm not sure. i said on the UDCP thread that i'll be starting a new party but want to remain a member of the DCP. aridd didn't object so maybe its ok :P
I think it is Retarded.
Harlesburg
14-09-2006, 10:05
It appears that particular idea is dead. I'm cogitating on another party idea...
Oh nooooooooooos, stick with it.:(
Philosopy
14-09-2006, 11:06
What happened to the New British Imperial Party?! :confused:
Ariddia
14-09-2006, 13:14
Aridd, we now meet the requirements for party listing i think with two members (including myself), so please add the OFMP :) http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499585


Added! Good luck. :)
Daistallia 2104
14-09-2006, 16:29
Oh nooooooooooos, stick with it.:(

Where was all this support when I was wandering in the wilderness?
Minaris
14-09-2006, 22:09
... and I was wondering when the election will be. So, when will the election be?
Ariddia
14-09-2006, 22:57
c. October 1st.
Fleckenstein
14-09-2006, 23:05
When's the cutoff for parties?

cause the NSDSP is having communication difficulties, it seems. :)
Fleckenstein
15-09-2006, 00:10
NSDSP is in! *thumbs up*
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
Dissonant Cognition
15-09-2006, 00:25
In the interest of not being accused of spamming and such, a question: when would it be appropriate to start another polling thread, similar to the one already started by Trotskylvania (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499390), except including the four additional parties (Autonomist, Libertarian, Opportunity & Fairness, Mole & Other Burrowing Rodents) that have been approved for participation since then? My understanding is that a poll can have up to 10 options, and there are exactly 10 approved parties listed as of now. These newly approved parties no longer really qualify for the "other" option, as described in Trotskylvania's poll, and should be able to have their full names listed just like any other party, instead of being all crammed together under a rather indescriptive category. :D

(edit: Indeed, note that "other" is now tied for second place (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499390). It is time for a new poll. :D )
Ginnoria
15-09-2006, 01:24
The OMG POGO STICK!!1 Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499748) is ready. Please do not forget the !!1. Thank you.
Soviestan
15-09-2006, 07:56
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499772

The alcohol party is ready, cheers.
Philosopy
15-09-2006, 10:58
Can I resurect the New British Imperial Party and oust Aust as leader, seeing as no one else seems to be starting it up?

I do think that a party with an MP should at least have a shot at defending its seat in the elections.
Philosopy
15-09-2006, 13:22
The New British Imperial Party is up and running, wot!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499781

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/Slippery__Jim/UnionJack.jpg
Vote NBIP
For the glory of the Emparh!
Harlesburg
15-09-2006, 13:40
http://static.flickr.com/19/115199744_29f5b2da3d_m.jpg
VOTE MOBRA!
GHOST MOUSE EXPECTS IT!
Glitziness
15-09-2006, 17:15
Arridia, are you only allowed to be a member of one party? *has confused memories*
Philosopy
15-09-2006, 17:17
Arridia, are you only allowed to be a member of one party? *has confused memories*

Well, Soviestan is currently the founder of more than one party, so it'll be interesting to see how that works. :p
Glitziness
15-09-2006, 17:20
Well, Soviestan is currently the founder of more than one party, so it'll be interesting to see how that works. :p
Well, Arridia founded two parties in the first elections (UDCP and a Tink one).... so I'm assuming that being a member of two is fine :p (and if so yay! cuts down on my decision making). It just seems a bit strange...
Soviestan
15-09-2006, 17:23
Well, Soviestan is currently the founder of more than one party, so it'll be interesting to see how that works. :p
yeah, but two of them have no support so theres no conflict. Plus people are allowed to create more than one party.
Ariddia
16-09-2006, 13:41
NSDSP is in! *thumbs up*
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif

Link to your party thread, please?

(I'm back; sorry about the delay. Woke up yesterday at 5:30 with the worst stomach pains I've ever had, and stayed off the Internet all day.)
Ariddia
16-09-2006, 13:43
The OMG POGO STICK!!1 Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499748) is ready. Please do not forget the !!1. Thank you.

Added.
Ariddia
16-09-2006, 13:46
The New British Imperial Party is up and running, wot!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499781

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/Slippery__Jim/UnionJack.jpg
Vote NBIP
For the glory of the Emparh!

Added. Welcome back, wot!
Ariddia
16-09-2006, 13:47
Arridia, are you only allowed to be a member of one party? *has confused memories*

No, you can be a member of several. You just can't be an MP for several.
Ariddia
16-09-2006, 13:48
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499772

The alcohol party is ready, cheers.

Added.
Fleckenstein
16-09-2006, 15:54
Link to your party thread, please?

(I'm back; sorry about the delay. Woke up yesterday at 5:30 with the worst stomach pains I've ever had, and stayed off the Internet all day.)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472567&highlight=nsdsp

sorry bout that. and hope you're feeling better.

how will the voting happen? or do we need to have coalitions or something?
Ariddia
16-09-2006, 17:39
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472567&highlight=nsdsp

sorry bout that. and hope you're feeling better.

how will the voting happen? or do we need to have coalitions or something?

Added. And yes I'm feeling better, thanks; not great, but better.

As for the voting... So far we have more than 10 parties (although some may wither away), but PM has an idea how to manage that. For now, coalitions don't seem necessary.
Fleckenstein
16-09-2006, 18:24
Added. And yes I'm feeling better, thanks; not great, but better.

Good. :)
As for the voting... So far we have more than 10 parties (although some may wither away), but PM has an idea how to manage that. For now, coalitions don't seem necessary.

Yeah, doesnt he have his multi-scanner voting thing? I dont remember how that works, but I know its how the real election will work.
Harlesburg
17-09-2006, 02:50
VOTE MOBRA!
Minaris
18-09-2006, 12:25
Burn
Underground
Mole
Penthouses
Greill
18-09-2006, 15:54
Burn
Underground
Mole
Penthouses

What about the Mole Bunkers? That's where they're planning to start the invasion, little tunnel digging tricksters.
Minaris
18-09-2006, 21:53
What about the Mole Bunkers? That's where they're planning to start the invasion, little tunnel digging tricksters.

Neither bump nor morba fits that, though... :(
Greill
18-09-2006, 22:01
Neither bump nor morba fits that, though... :(

Then we're doomed to subterranean servitude...
Philosopy
18-09-2006, 22:04
Then we're doomed to subterranean servitude...
No! You can fight the Mole invasion!

Vote NBIP!
What's a mole when you've got bulldogs?
Minaris
18-09-2006, 22:08
No! You can fight the Mole invasion!

Vote NBIP!
What's a mole when you've got bulldogs?

N00b
Brings
In
Party
Philosopy
18-09-2006, 22:12
N00b
Brings
In
Party

That...doesn't even make sense.
IL Ruffino
18-09-2006, 22:31
From day to day Lilith wondered about the future. She roamed the country side, looking for an escape from the future.

One day she wlaked thursty and starved; being lost in the woods for quite some time, she stumbled across a small pub that over looked a meddow. She smelled foods and decided to investigate..

Her entrance was little more than a click as her shoes tapped the stone floors. The men, five of them, were surprised to see a stranger such as her, in a pub such as this in the small village.

She nervously smiled and slowly walked towards the men. "What is the name of this village?" she asked the man with the grey beard; "This is Anister, ma'am." he riplied in a raspy voice.

She had no money, no way of paying for the food she was then offered; but in her mind, this did not matter. She gladly took the food. By the time she had finished this kind offering of food she knew she had to admit her financial disposition.

The men, now seven of them, had enjoyed her company so much that they offered to pay the tab. She couldn't just let them do such a thing. She offered any help possible, the men gladly declined this. Just then, the man sitting near the fireplace shouted "Tell us a tale and I will gladly pay for your meal!"

How could she rufuse such a simple request? She began to speak of her town and their recent elections.. telling of a fun loving, happy group of people who called themselves the Choose Wisely Party. The men seemed to admire this group of people so much that they started their own CWP in their little village.



Fun, Happy, Nonsense;
Vote CWP
Greill
18-09-2006, 22:37
I won't let anyone but me parody my party's initials first, so here I go. Vote for the

Foul
Rotten
Pizza
IL Ruffino
18-09-2006, 22:40
Chicken
With
Potatoes
Philosopy
18-09-2006, 22:44
Chicken
With
Potatoes

Did you know you're ripping off an Aussie paint company?

http://www.cwp.com.au/images/title.gif
IL Ruffino
18-09-2006, 22:49
Did you know you're ripping off an Aussie paint company?

http://www.cwp.com.au/images/title.gif

I love it!
Fleckenstein
19-09-2006, 02:41
So when exactly is the election? And will we have debates again?
Soviestan
19-09-2006, 05:05
So when exactly is the election? And will we have debates again?

I want to know this as well
Greill
19-09-2006, 05:07
The election begins on the 1st of next month, if I recall.
Ariddia
19-09-2006, 07:12
The election begins on the 1st of next month, if I recall.

Indeed.

As for debates... Of course; that would be good. Which reminds me there isn't a debate thread yet, although you can ask questions in specific party threads.

Want me to create one? Or you can; I'm going to be out for the next few hours.
Daistallia 2104
19-09-2006, 17:58
I'm floating a new party idea - the PUNKS AND PIRATES (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500261) party. At the moment, I've just floated it, so of course there are no other members yet. However, I'd like to say that I wish to see this party as a bridge between the "serious" and "silly" movements. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Daistallia 2104
19-09-2006, 18:10
Two member threshold reached! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11702968&postcount=6)

Does this meet the standard for manifestos - PUNKS AND PIRATES (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500261) party?

If not, please let me know, ASAP!
Greill
19-09-2006, 19:11
Indeed.

As for debates... Of course; that would be good. Which reminds me there isn't a debate thread yet, although you can ask questions in specific party threads.

Want me to create one? Or you can; I'm going to be out for the next few hours.

I'd kind of like an organized debate, personally. Would you be willing to start one up and guide it along, for the benefit of all voters? Right now I think everything else is limited to propaganda and mud-slinging.
The Archregimancy
20-09-2006, 01:23
I have my second member

The Not Particularly Vicious Black Friday Afternoon Non-Marxist Revolutionary Party for the Reunification of Gondwanaland (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499310) announces its participation in the forthcoming election.

Join us, and submit the NationStates world to the quixotic unaccountable rule of continental reunificationists.


And, as called for by clause 10 of the Party platform, I hereby denounce the so-called 'Not Particularly Vicious Black Friday Afternoon Non-Marxist Revolutionary Party for the Reunification of Gondwanaland - Pangaea Tendency' as a dangerous splittist faction.
Minaris
20-09-2006, 01:42
We have joined the running. See our signup thread and manifesto at

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11705166#post11705166

The Defenderists:

We will defend our people.
Fleckenstein
20-09-2006, 02:11
Anyone else think this many parties is insane?

No one will win a seat except the big dogs (UDCP, NSDSP, MOBRA, NBIP)!

And a nice organized debate would be nice, but I dont know about times and such. Or just throw out points like last time, and have parties throw their views. out.
Minaris
20-09-2006, 02:17
Anyone else think this many parties is insane?

No one will win a seat except the big dogs (UDCP, NSDSP, MOBRA, NBIP)!

And a nice organized debate would be nice, but I dont know about times and such. Or just throw out points like last time, and have parties throw their views. out.

Points:

We defend our people.

Teh Basics:

Economically- we will make sure everyone has something an tha noone hoards up too much (i.e., Bill Gates)

Civilly- although art and freedom of speech is sacrosant, there are exceptions (unconsented/child porn, etc.)

Politically- not too much democracy (as it is slow) but not too much ub3r authoritarianism (A- too much of an anarchy incubator
B-People need something)

Any other questions?
Greill
20-09-2006, 02:57
Anyone else think this many parties is insane?

No one will win a seat except the big dogs (UDCP, NSDSP, MOBRA, NBIP)!


Maybe we should do something to at least limit more parties, this is starting to get out of hand.
The Archregimancy
20-09-2006, 03:09
Maybe we should do something to at least limit more parties, this is starting to get out of hand.

While perhaps guilty of forming one of the more fringe parties (see above) - and struggling for over a week to find a second member, which suggests a certain struggle in finding mass acceptence - I have in fact agreed with Fleckenstein in his separate thread about having too many parties about the party proliferation situation.

In that separate thread, I proposed two simple reforms in any future elections:

1) Increase the minimum number of members to four or five

and/or

2) Ban people from signing up as members of more than one party
Greill
20-09-2006, 03:59
While perhaps guilty of forming one of the more fringe parties (see above) - and struggling for over a week to find a second member, which suggests a certain struggle in finding mass acceptence - I have in fact agreed with Fleckenstein in his separate thread about having too many parties about the party proliferation situation.

In that separate thread, I proposed two simple reforms in any future elections:

1) Increase the minimum number of members to four or five

and/or

2) Ban people from signing up as members of more than one party

I think the first would be fine. Don't need the second one- people aren't going to join every party and thus inflate the number of members, since they'd need to agree with the politics first.
Daistallia 2104
20-09-2006, 04:21
And the PUNKS AND PIRATES party membership is up to 8. :D
The Archregimancy
20-09-2006, 04:25
I think the first would be fine. Don't need the second one- people aren't going to join every party and thus inflate the number of members, since they'd need to agree with the politics first.

Ah. See, on that second point I think you're mistaken as the practice of temporarily signing up for another party for the sole purpose of allowing that party to reach the membership threshold already exists. As does the practice of trading temporary memberships to make sure that multiple parties reach the membership requirement.

Guilty, m'lud.

But while I've in fact done this on the basis that it doesn't seem to be explicitly banned at present, I don't necessarily think it should be permitted (do as I say, not as I do), hence the suggestion for bringing the practice to and end by banning multiple memberships.

Puppets are a trickier issue as they'd be harder to police, though note that since Ariddia knows what my two nations are anyway, I didn't give in to the temptation of having my puppet endorse my main nation's party.
Greill
20-09-2006, 04:58
Ah. See, on that second point I think you're mistaken as the practice of temporarily signing up for another party for the sole purpose of allowing that party to reach the membership threshold already exists. As does the practice of trading temporary memberships to make sure that multiple parties reach the membership requirement.

Guilty, m'lud.

But while I've in fact done this on the basis that it doesn't seem to be explicitly banned at present, I don't necessarily think it should be permitted (do as I say, not as I do), hence the suggestion for bringing the practice to and end by banning multiple memberships.

Puppets are a trickier issue as they'd be harder to police, though note that since Ariddia knows what my two nations are anyway, I didn't give in to the temptation of having my puppet endorse my main nation's party.

Really? I wasn't aware that this was happening. If so, then, ban that.
Daistallia 2104
20-09-2006, 05:58
The expanded manifesto: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11705853&postcount=36

I do belive that puts us well over the qualification threshold...
IL Ruffino
20-09-2006, 07:52
Could you please remove the Choose Wisely Party and the Pogo Stick Party and add this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500344

.. in their place?

We have decided to merge and not use the original parties.
Philosopy
20-09-2006, 11:22
Are the issues highlighted in this thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500322

going to be a problem?
Ariddia
20-09-2006, 11:27
Two member threshold reached! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11702968&postcount=6)

Does this meet the standard for manifestos - PUNKS AND PIRATES (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500261) party?


Yes. Added.
Ariddia
20-09-2006, 11:28
I have my second member

The Not Particularly Vicious Black Friday Afternoon Non-Marxist Revolutionary Party for the Reunification of Gondwanaland (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499310) announces its participation in the forthcoming election.


Added.
Ariddia
20-09-2006, 11:30
We have joined the running. See our signup thread and manifesto at

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11705166#post11705166


A tad bit iffy in terms of length, but... Added.
Ariddia
20-09-2006, 11:32
In that separate thread, I proposed two simple reforms in any future elections:

1) Increase the minimum number of members to four or five

and/or

2) Ban people from signing up as members of more than one party

That's probably a good idea. It can be discussed by Parliament as soon as it's up and running. ;)
Ariddia
20-09-2006, 11:35
Could you please remove the Choose Wisely Party and the Pogo Stick Party and add this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500344

.. in their place?

We have decided to merge and not use the original parties.

Done.

Which brings us to sixteen parties. Since a party needs 4% of the vote in order to enter Parliament, most probably won't get any seats.
Ariddia
20-09-2006, 11:48
Are the issues highlighted in this thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500322

going to be a problem?

See my reply in your thread.

Hopefully a limit on starting new threads will calm things down a bit.
Ariddia
20-09-2006, 11:49
I'd kind of like an organized debate, personally. Would you be willing to start one up and guide it along, for the benefit of all voters? Right now I think everything else is limited to propaganda and mud-slinging.

Will do in just a moment. It would indeed be good to have some actual political debate.

Edit: Done! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11706345#post11706345)
Philosopy
20-09-2006, 11:58
See my reply in your thread.

Hopefully a limit on starting new threads will calm things down a bit.

Wasn't my thread. ;)

I just saw it.
Ariddia
26-09-2006, 13:03
PM, if you're reading this. The election will soon begin. Are you ready with your electoral system?
Daistallia 2104
26-09-2006, 17:15
A clarification re party membership: Is it or is it not legal to be a member of two parties simultaneously?
Ariddia
26-09-2006, 20:04
A clarification re party membership: Is it or is it not legal to be a member of two parties simultaneously?

It is at present. If the next Parliament disagrees with it, they can legislate against it.
Ariddia
28-09-2006, 09:14
Bump.
Ariddia
30-09-2006, 18:15
The election begins tomorrow, and will last five days. It'll start officially when PM comes online with his Grand Electoral System Plan. ;)
Philosopy
30-09-2006, 18:18
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/Slippery__Jim/UnionJack.jpg
Vote NBIP
The Emparh Commands It
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/vonbek/rourke.gif
Ifreann
30-09-2006, 18:26
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/NuGo1988/CYPSWP2.jpg
Daistallia 2104
30-09-2006, 18:31
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Daistallia/PUNKSANDPIRATESFLAG.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Daistallia/PUNKSANDPIRATESFLAG.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Daistallia/PUNKSANDPIRATESFLAG.jpg
VOTE PUNKS AND PIRATES (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11702941)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Daistallia/PUNKSANDPIRATESFLAG.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Daistallia/PUNKSANDPIRATESFLAG.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Daistallia/PUNKSANDPIRATESFLAG.jpg
Philosopy
30-09-2006, 18:38
-Propoganda of a Terrible Party Snip, wot-
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/Slippery__Jim/unionjack.jpg
Vote NBIP
The Penguins Are With Us
Philosopy
30-09-2006, 18:41
Good sah, we British are not a vindictive people, wot, but surely this is an electoral irregularity of the most serious order?
Laddies, the elections be upon us:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11750849&postcount=154

Remember - vote early and vote oft.
I think this should be grounds for disqualification, wotwot!
Daistallia 2104
30-09-2006, 18:47
-Slanderous Propoganda of a Terrible Party Snip-

:rolleyes:
Philosopy
30-09-2006, 18:51
:rolleyes:
We are duty bound as men of Emparh to destroy the pirates through any means necessary, wot!

Everyone knows you cannot trust a man with an eyepatch, wot! He'd be Seebad the Sailor, wotwot!
Vacuumhead
30-09-2006, 19:12
We are duty bound as men of Emparh to destroy the pirates through any means necessary, wot!

Everyone knows you cannot trust a man with an eyepatch, wot! He'd be Seebad the Sailor, wotwot!

Lord Philosopy sah! I have with me a large quantity of rum, which the brave men of our navy confiscated from those filthy pirates. Do you want any bottles put aside for our party members before it gets distributed amongst the sailors that found it? It is good stuff, wot!

*Sips from a glass*
Ifreann
30-09-2006, 19:14
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/NuGo1988/CYSPWP5.jpg
Philosopy
30-09-2006, 19:18
Lord Philosopy sah! I have with me a large quantity of rum, which the brave men of our navy confiscated from those filthy pirates. Do you want any bottles put aside for our party members before it gets distributed amongst the sailors that found it? It is good stuff, wot!

*Sips from a glass*
Rum! Huzzah!!!

I am not a drinker myself, good Lady Sah, but by all means put some aside for our loyal supporters, wot!

And it'll keep the Navy in good spirits too! Let the sailors know that they get a barrel of rum for every pirate ship sunk!

Pip pip for Her Majesty!
Minaris
30-09-2006, 19:25
Vote TDP:THE DEFENDERIST PARTY

A left-libertarian party to protect its people.

Quick Preview:

Abortion- Until 19th week, except in cases of rape, incest, or health endangerment (THEY GET AN EXTENSION)

Marriage- Marry who/what you want.

Drugs- Any product whose USE does not harm others is legal. Note that acts under the influence is not considered.

Political Coordinates: (-3.5 to -6.5, -3.5 to -6.5)

Ideology: Moderate Left, Libertarians


Manifesto: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11705166#post11705166
Philosopy
30-09-2006, 19:28
Abortion- Until 19th week, except in cases of rape, incest, or health endangerment

You heard it here first, chaps; this party wants to force rape victims to have babies!
Minaris
30-09-2006, 19:33
You heard it here first, chaps; this party wants to force rape victims to have babies!

No; rape, incest, and health endangerment are cases for an EXTENSION.
Ifreann
30-09-2006, 19:39
No; rape, incest, and health endangerment are cases for an EXTENSION.

Welcome to the world of politics my friend.
Minaris
30-09-2006, 19:43
Welcome to the world of politics my friend.

Yeah...

Anyways, TDP is

The
Dankest
Party
Philosopy
30-09-2006, 19:45
Welcome to the world of politics my friend.
Fun, innit? ;)

Yeah...

Anyways, TDP is

The
Dankest
Party
Er... do you even know what that means?

Vote NBIP
Minaris is doing a good job of telling you why
Minaris
30-09-2006, 19:48
Fun, innit? ;)


Er... do you even know what that means?

Vote NBIP
Minaris is doing a good job of telling you why

"Dank" means "cool" 'round here... It's a colloquial expression here that means 'cool'. Don't ask. Not my idea...

NEVER VOTE NBIP! THE TDP IS TEH ONLY WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You Brits had your chance. Now stand down!\

*preps militia*
Ifreann
30-09-2006, 19:49
Fun, innit? ;)

Yup.


Vote CYPSWP
Or the infidels win!
Minaris
30-09-2006, 19:50
Yup.


Vote CYPSWP
Or the infidels win!

Never will I vote for such a sellout party. Especially one that has no stance on the real issues.
Ifreann
30-09-2006, 19:51
"Dank" means "cool" 'round here... It's a colloquial expression here that means 'cool'. Don't ask. Not my idea...

NEVER VOTE NBIP! THE TDP IS TEH ONLY WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You Brits had your chance. Now stand down!\

*preps militia*

The The [whatever the D stands for] Party?
Ifreann
30-09-2006, 19:52
Never will I vote for such a sellout party. Especially one that has no stance on the real issues.

Just because nobody else has addressed the issues of pi as a religion or silly poll options doesn't mean they aren't real.
Philosopy
30-09-2006, 19:53
The The [whatever the D stands for] Party?
Dankest, apparently. As the name suggests, they're unpleasantly damp and chilly.
Minaris
30-09-2006, 19:54
Dankest, apparently. As the name suggests, they're unpleasantly damp and chilly.

D is for Defenderist.

it has to do with the manifesto, which uses the word "defend" in almost every point.
Philosopy
30-09-2006, 19:55
D is for Defenderist.

it has to do with the manifesto, which uses the word "defend" in almost every point.
Perhaps I could lend you my thesaurus, good sah?
Minaris
30-09-2006, 19:57
Perhaps I could lend you my thesaurus, good sah?

It was done on purpose, Frenchie.

I mean Brit.

Ah, what's the difference?

[/allusion to SOUTH PARK]
Ifreann
30-09-2006, 20:04
Perhaps I could lend you my thesaurus, good sah?
Protect and guard come to mind instantly as synonyms.
Philosopy
30-09-2006, 20:05
It was done on purpose, Frenchie.

I mean Brit.

Perhaps your election slogan should be 'vote The Dankest Party: Defending poor English and Geography everywhere.'
Minaris
30-09-2006, 20:06
Perhaps your election slogan should be 'vote The Dankest Party: Defending poor English and Geography everywhere.'

It was an allusion to SOUTH PARK, in which Pip (teh Brit) is always called Frenchie.

Thus, we have excellent English. :p :p :p
Ifreann
30-09-2006, 20:07
Perhaps your election slogan should be 'vote The Dankest Party: Defending poor English and Geography everywhere.'

Don't forget 'Now colder, damper and more unpleasant than ever before'
Minaris
30-09-2006, 20:08
Don't forget 'Now colder, damper and more unpleasant than ever before'

*is warm, dry, and very pleasant.* ;) :p :D
Ifreann
30-09-2006, 20:15
*is warm, dry, and very pleasant.* ;) :p :D

Then you should get that Dankness out of your party.
Minaris
30-09-2006, 20:16
Then you should get that Dankness out of your party.

*Dankness out.*
Ifreann
30-09-2006, 20:17
*Dankness out.*
Now stand on one leg and sing I'm a little teapot.
Minaris
30-09-2006, 20:18
Now stand on one leg and sing I'm a little teapot.

*Smites 55555 times*

[/TGLM inside joke]
Ariddia
01-10-2006, 11:58
IMPORTANT!

The election has now begun!

Thanks to Pure Metal, you can go and cast your vote here (http://www.hlj.me.uk/ns/election/).

IMPORTANT!
Ariddia
01-10-2006, 12:07
Tsk, tsk. Already the first instances of cheating. Two votes cast for the Defenderist Party, fifteen seconds apart, from the same computer.

They will of course be discounted.
Philosopy
01-10-2006, 12:13
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/vonbek/rourke.gif
Vote NBIP!
For Her Majesty, Emparh and Honour!
Philosopy
01-10-2006, 12:15
Tsk, tsk. Already the first instances of cheating. Two votes cast for the Defenderist Party, fifteen seconds apart, from the same computer.

They will of course be discounted.

Is there any way to open up this process so that we can all see which way the votes are going?

And I suggest that all Party leaders put a notice in their threads telling their supporters to only vote once. I have already done so, wotwot!
Vote NBIP
We're the only honourable bunch of the lot
Ariddia
01-10-2006, 12:19
Is there any way to open up this process so that we can all see which way the votes are going?


Yep. See here (http://www.hlj.me.uk/ns/election/results.htm).
Philosopy
01-10-2006, 12:23
Yep. See here (http://www.hlj.me.uk/ns/election/results.htm).

That shows two votes for the Opportunity & Fairness Meritocratic Party from the same computer as well...

This could be fun. :p
Harlesburg
01-10-2006, 12:31
VOTE MOBRA!
Minaris
01-10-2006, 12:32
vote Tdp!
Jello Biafra
01-10-2006, 12:35
Ooh, that looks like it would be a lot of work to tally up all those votes. Glad I'm not doing it. :)

Vote UDCP!
Philosopy
01-10-2006, 12:35
VOTE MOBRAGET SLAVERY

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/Slippery__Jim/britflsmall.jpg
Vote NBIP
Moles for Her Majesty
Minaris
01-10-2006, 12:37
How can we tell who has how many votes?
Ariddia
01-10-2006, 13:21
How can we tell who has how many votes?

By counting them.

Unless anyone volunteers, I'll do that.
Minaris
01-10-2006, 13:27
No, I'm asking where/how we can check the votes.
Philosopy
01-10-2006, 13:28
No, I'm asking where/how we can check the votes.
You were told earlier.

If it helps, your party has 0 votes. :)
Ariddia
01-10-2006, 13:28
No, I'm asking where/how we can check the votes.

here (http://www.hlj.me.uk/ns/election/results.htm).
Minaris
01-10-2006, 13:29
here (http://www.hlj.me.uk/ns/election/results.htm).

thanks
Ariddia
01-10-2006, 14:21
Somebody has voted for the PUNKS AND PIRATES Party seven times. All seven votes will be discarded.
Daistallia 2104
01-10-2006, 16:27
IMPORTANT!

The election has now begun!

Thanks to Pure Metal, you can go and cast your vote here (http://www.hlj.me.uk/ns/election/).

IMPORTANT!

That comes up as a banner: "NationStates General election October 2006" and an otherwise blank page.

Yep. See here (http://www.hlj.me.uk/ns/election/results.htm).

That comes up little better:

Opportunity & Fairness Meritocratic Party
Remote Name:
87.112.85.205
Date:

here (http://www.hlj.me.uk/ns/election/results.htm).

That comes up the same as above.

Somebody has voted for the PUNKS AND PIRATES Party seven times. All seven votes will be discarded.

Say what? Why are you discarding all the votes for my party!?!?!
Neo Kervoskia
01-10-2006, 16:36
Vote for the Other Party
Ariddia
01-10-2006, 16:48
That comes up as a banner: "NationStates General election October 2006" and an otherwise blank page.


Oh? Weird. Is anyone else having that problem?

If it doesn't resolve itself, you can send a TG to PM (http://www.nationstates.net/pure_metal); the page is on his website.


That comes up little better:
That comes up the same as above.

It's supposed to; those two are the same page. ;) Minaris missed the first link, so I indicated it again.


Say what? Why are you discarding all the votes for my party!?!?!

I'm not. Only the seven votes which were cast by a single person (i.e., someone who cheated by voting seven times).
Daistallia 2104
01-10-2006, 16:54
Oh? Weird. Is anyone else having that problem?

Aha resolved - you might want to mention that weird scrolling. Seriously I missed it the first 3 times I looked at that page trying to figure it out.

It's supposed to; those two are the same page. ;) Minaris missed the first link, so I indicated it again.

I'm not. Only the seven votes which were cast by a single person (i.e., someone who cheated by voting seven times).
Thanks. Again, the hidden scrolling. Why on earth did PM set it up that way??? :confused: :confused: :confused:
Ariddia
01-10-2006, 16:55
Aha resolved - you might want to mention that weird scrolling. Seriously I missed it the first 3 times I looked at that page trying to figure it out.


Hmm. On my computer, there is no scrolling on the voting page. Although there is on the results' page.
Fleckenstein
01-10-2006, 16:56
Somebody has voted for the PUNKS AND PIRATES Party seven times. All seven votes will be discarded.

That's hilarious to look at in the results.

It's sooo obvious too.
Daistallia 2104
01-10-2006, 16:57
It's supposed to; those two are the same page. ;) Minaris missed the first link, so I indicated it again.

Well yes, it was, but the problem - solved now - was that all I saw was the short quoted portion and nothing more. That hidden scrolling is awful. Lets make sure it's fixed next time around, eh. :D

And I'll be leaving a message for my party re multi voting. My apologies.
Daistallia 2104
01-10-2006, 17:00
Hmm. On my computer, there is no scrolling on the voting page. Although there is on the results' page.

It comes up with just the banner - about 1 inch high - and nothing else apparent on mine, and the scroll bar barely visible - much smaller than a normal scroll bar. :(
Philosopy
01-10-2006, 17:56
Oh dear, multiple votes for the Moles as well.

Perhaps people can't read the big letters that say 'you will get caught doing this?'
Greill
01-10-2006, 18:00
vote:
Opportunity & Fairness Meritocratic Party
Remote Name:
87.112.85.205
Date:
01/10/2006
Time:
00:10:54

And right on down from there...

vote:
Opportunity & Fairness Meritocratic Party
Remote Name:
87.112.85.205
Date:
01/10/2006
Time:
00:15:59

Did anyone else notice this?

Edit: This too.

vote:
Defenderist Party
Remote Name:
65.33.172.197
Date:
01/10/2006
Time:
12:03:21

vote:
Defenderist Party
Remote Name:
65.33.172.197
Date:
01/10/2006
Time:
12:03:36

vote:
Mole and Other Borrowing Rodents Alliance
Remote Name:
68.171.124.243
Date:
01/10/2006
Time:
17:52:48

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

vote:
Mole and Other Borrowing Rodents Alliance
Remote Name:
68.171.124.243
Date:
01/10/2006
Time:
17:53:05

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

vote:
Mole and Other Borrowing Rodents Alliance
Remote Name:
68.171.124.243
Date:
01/10/2006
Time:
17:53:15
Fleckenstein
01-10-2006, 18:07
It comes up with just the banner - about 1 inch high - and nothing else apparent on mine, and the scroll bar barely visible - much smaller than a normal scroll bar. :(

are you in firefox? cause it doesnt work in firefox but is fine in IE.
Ariddia
01-10-2006, 18:08
That's hilarious to look at in the results.

It's sooo obvious too.

It is, isn't it? I suppose whoever did that didn't realise.


And I'll be leaving a message for my party re multi voting. My apologies.

No problem. Not your fault.


Did anyone else notice this?

It's rather difficult to miss. ;)
Daistallia 2104
01-10-2006, 18:12
are you in firefox? cause it doesnt work in firefox but is fine in IE.

Yep.

No problem. Not your fault.

If it be one o' me boys, he be kissing the captain's daughter afore long. If not, I hope you and PM take appropriate measures....
Greill
01-10-2006, 18:21
It's rather difficult to miss. ;)

Just wanna make sure everything's running fairly. :D
IL Ruffino
01-10-2006, 18:21
EDIT: Found it :p

Yay 6 votes!

(I think, I'm still half asleep..)
Vacuumhead
01-10-2006, 18:33
It looks like the NBIP is of to a jolly good start, wot!

Huzzah! http://www.teenhelp.org/groups/images/smilies/3dflagsdotcom_uk_2faws.gif
Philosopy
01-10-2006, 22:53
It looks like the NBIP is of to a jolly good start, wot!

Huzzah! http://www.teenhelp.org/groups/images/smilies/3dflagsdotcom_uk_2faws.gif
A first day lead, good Lady Sah! Pip pip, it's been a jolly good show!

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/Slippery__Jim/animated_union_jack2.gif
Vote NBIP
The Queen smiles on those who do
Minaris
01-10-2006, 22:57
Vote TDP!

Because being free whilst being supported is truly a great feeling and the ideal way to live.
Daistallia 2104
02-10-2006, 03:56
And the cheating abounds:
"Choose [Your Pogo Stick] Wisely Party","72.49.27.105","02/10/2006","01:00:09"
"Choose [Your Pogo Stick] Wisely Party","72.49.27.105","02/10/2006","01:00:50"

I must say, other than a few problems viewing, I mentioned before, this does seem to catch ballot stuffing.
Harlesburg
02-10-2006, 09:26
You were told earlier.

If it helps, your party has 0 votes. :)
lulz

VOTE MOBRA!
Valtia
03-10-2006, 14:35
By counting them.

Unless anyone volunteers, I'll do that.

I created small program, that should do the counting part. I tested it, and the results it gave were sensible, but I cannot guarantee there aren't any bugs in the code. (The source code is included in the zip, so anyone can search it for any bugs)

http://www.kansanpuolue.org/files/public/files.zip

The results it gave for me when testing:

Party: New British Imperialist Party
Votes: 18

Party: United Democratic Communist Party
Votes: 11

Party: PUNKS AND PIRATES Party
Votes: 8

Party: Democratic Socialist Party
Votes: 8

Party: Mole and Other Borrowing Rodents Alliance
Votes: 7

Party: Libertarian Party
Votes: 2

Party: Alcohol Party
Votes: 2

Party: Choose [Your Pogo Stick] Wisely Party
Votes: 18

Party: Religious Conservative Party
Votes: 3

Party: Freedom, Environment and Science Party
Votes: 8

Party: Human Rights Party
Votes: 7

Party: Opportunity & Fairness Meritocratic Party
Votes: 2

Party: Free Republic Party
Votes: 3

Party: Autonomist Party
Votes: 3
Ariddia
03-10-2006, 14:55
I created small program, that should do the counting part. I tested it, and the results it gave were sensible, but I cannot guarantee there aren't any bugs in the code. (The source code is included in the zip, so anyone can search it for any bugs)


Brilliant; thanks! Of course, we'll also have to weed out cheats manually.
Valtia
03-10-2006, 15:04
Brilliant; thanks! Of course, we'll also have to weed out cheats manually.

The program removes all cheats (At least when ip address is same), although it would be wise to make few checks manually, just to ensure there aren't any bugs.
Ariddia
03-10-2006, 15:12
The program removes all cheats (At least when ip address is same), although it would be wise to make few checks manually, just to ensure there isn't any bugs.

It does? Even better! Thanks a lot!

I will run manual checks too, of course, but it's good to have several ways of counting the votes.
Pure Metal
03-10-2006, 17:15
By counting them.

Unless anyone volunteers, I'll do that.

i've already taken care of that. the excel file found here (http://www.hlj.me.uk/ns/election/xls/) sorts by IP, checks for duplicates, i manually remove them (so there is an element of manual checking), and counts the votes for each party, as well as calculating percentages.
Ariddia
03-10-2006, 18:54
Thanks, PM!

Based on provisional results, with 100 valid votes cast, these would be the seats:

New British Imperialist Party: 4.5 seats => 5 seats
Choose [Your Pogo Stick] Wisely Party: 4.5 seats => 5 seats
United Democratic Communist Party: 2.75 => 3 seats
PUNKS AND PIRATES Party: 2 seats
Democratic Socialist Party: 2 seats
Freedom, Environment and Science Party: 2 seats
Mole and Other Borrowing Rodents Alliance: 1.75 => 2 seats
Human Rights Party: 1.75 => 2 seats
All others: no seat

Which gives us 23 seats. The attribution of the two remaining seats at this stage would be rather tricky.
The Friesland colony
03-10-2006, 21:44
I say, chaps, how does one cast ones good British vote? If merely by posting, consider me behinf the NBIP everystep of the jolly old way, wotowot!
Philosopy
03-10-2006, 21:46
I say, chaps, how does one cast ones good British vote? If merely by posting, consider me behinf the NBIP everystep of the jolly old way, wotowot!

No, good sah, you must go to this thread, wot!
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501923

Her Majesty smiles on you. Huzzah!