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My questions about the Bible and Faith

Himleret
09-09-2006, 06:08
1. Where is the Bible's proof that it is real?
2. How does God know he is all-knowing?
3. Why does god hate sheep and livestock?
4. If vanety is a sin why did Christ get to start a religoin that bares his name?
5. How did Noah gather aemebos?
6. How did Noahs family restart the human race race without Imbreeding,which has been labled as a sin?
7. Where the heck did Cains wife come from?
8. Why do I think god is the lesser of two evils?
9. How much wood could God chuck if god could chuck wood?
10. Why give peolple the choice to choose different religoins if your going to send them to hell for it?

If these questions offend any one I reccomend staying away from the "good news" for awhile then come back.
The Builders
09-09-2006, 06:23
Although I sense these are rhetorical questions aimed at getting the sheep of blind faith to thinking, my response is that there is no God. We don't even have a single shred of proof that Christ ever even existed. All we are hypcritacal texts of Jewish scribblers, who borrowed the teachings of the surmon on the mount from the Essenes which had been preaching the same things for over a hundred years almost verbatum with what Christ supposedly said, and I believe their aim was to draw up this big multi-cultural conglomeration of old fables purely for the purpose of selling self-destructive advice to their hated enemies, the Romans. After all, the thousand year empire of Rome did fall not long after Constantine made Christianity Rome's official religion.
The Nazz
09-09-2006, 06:27
Are you talking to yourself? Because the spelling errors in both posts look eerily similar, as does the tone of both posts.
The Keyi
09-09-2006, 06:32
1. Where is the Bible's proof that it is real?
2. How does God know he is all-knowing?
3. Why does god hate sheep and livestock?
4. If vanety is a sin why did Christ get to start a religoin that bares his name?
5. How did Noah gather aemebos?
6. How did Noahs family restart the human race race without Imbreeding,which has been labled as a sin?
7. Where the heck did Cains wife come from?
8. Why do I think god is the lesser of two evils?
9. How much wood could God chuck if god could chuck wood?
10. Why give peolple the choice to choose different religoins if your going to send them to hell for it?

If these questions offend any one I reccomend staying away from the "good news" for awhile then come back.

1. The Dead Sea Scrolls and Tablets of Elba
2. God knows all because He created all and you must know what you create
3. God does not hate those animals. The laws for the Jews were to protect them from disease and the sacrifices to God symbolized repentance.
4. Christians were not called Christians until after Christ's acension, the first was in Acts.
5. Noah gather all animals that could only survive on land.
6. There was not that law at that time, it came later, during the time of Moses.
7. His sister. And again there was not the 'inbreeding' law.
8. God is not evil, He is pure and holy. He just and merciful and all powerful.
9. What? :confused: I suppose He can, and as much as He wanted to.
10. God didn't create the other religions, man did, and free will was created first. If we didn't have free will, we could not truely love God.
Soheran
09-09-2006, 06:33
1. Where is the Bible's proof that it is real?

The Bible says it is, thus it is.

2. How does God know he is all-knowing?

He is all-knowing, thus He knows.

3. Why does god hate sheep and livestock?

He doesn't. He just loves their smell.

4. If vanety is a sin why did Christ get to start a religoin that bares his name?

Divine privilege.

5. How did Noah gather aemebos?

The Flood spared them; there was no need.

6. How did Noahs family restart the human race race without Imbreeding,which has been labled as a sin?

Since when is inbreeding a sin?

7. Where the heck did Cains wife come from?

She was his sister.

8. Why do I think god is the lesser of two evils?

Because you have been deluded by Satan.

9. How much wood could God chuck if god could chuck wood?

God can chuck wood, and He can chuck an infinite quantity.

10. Why give peolple the choice to choose different religoins if your going to send them to hell for it?

Divine amusement.
Soheran
09-09-2006, 06:35
1. The Dead Sea Scrolls and Tablets of Elba.

What kind of proof do they present?
Andaluciae
09-09-2006, 06:35
Your title says your answer:

The Bible and Faith
The Keyi
09-09-2006, 06:44
What kind of proof do they present?

The Tablets of Ebla are not Biblical, the are extremly old, dating before the time the Bible was written, and seem to mention the cities of Sodom and Gamora
Soheran
09-09-2006, 06:45
The Tablets of Ebla are not Biblical, the are extremly old, dating before the time the Bible was written, and seem to mention the cities of Sodom and Gamora

So possible confirmation of one event mentioned by the Bible is proof of its truth?
The Alma Mater
09-09-2006, 06:46
1. The Dead Sea Scrolls and Tablets of Elba
That is not an answer to the question. Thumbs up for the other answers though.
Anti-Social Darwinism
09-09-2006, 06:48
1. Where is the Bible's proof that it is real?
2. How does God know he is all-knowing?
3. Why does god hate sheep and livestock?
4. If vanety is a sin why did Christ get to start a religoin that bares his name?
5. How did Noah gather aemebos?
6. How did Noahs family restart the human race race without Imbreeding,which has been labled as a sin?
7. Where the heck did Cains wife come from?
8. Why do I think god is the lesser of two evils?
9. How much wood could God chuck if god could chuck wood?
10. Why give peolple the choice to choose different religoins if your going to send them to hell for it?

If these questions offend any one I reccomend staying away from the "good news" for awhile then come back.

1. There is no proof.
2. He knows because we told him.
3. He doesn't hate sheep and livestock, he thinks they're quite tasty.
4. Because vanity is only a sin if you're not God.
5. Two words - Amebic dysentary.
6. Evolution?
7. He wasn't married, they were living in sin.
8. Because you're not thinking of enough evils.
9. As much wood as God could chuck if God could chuck wood.
10. Mwahahahahahah.
The Alma Mater
09-09-2006, 06:48
So possible confirmation of one event mentioned by the Bible is proof of its truth?

But of course. Look at the current media.
1. Airplanes crashed into the WTC on 11/9
2. The WTC collapsed in an odd way
3. George Bush did it.

1 and 2 have been confirmed. Therefor 3 must be true.

(this post was irony. Unfortunately it also accurately represents the actual way of thought of many people)
Good Lifes
09-09-2006, 23:16
1. Where is the Bible's proof that it is real?
2. How does God know he is all-knowing?
3. Why does god hate sheep and livestock?
4. If vanety is a sin why did Christ get to start a religoin that bares his name?
5. How did Noah gather aemebos?
6. How did Noahs family restart the human race race without Imbreeding,which has been labled as a sin?
7. Where the heck did Cains wife come from?
8. Why do I think god is the lesser of two evils?
9. How much wood could God chuck if god could chuck wood?
10. Why give peolple the choice to choose different religoins if your going to send them to hell for it?

If these questions offend any one I reccomend staying away from the "good news" for awhile then come back.

1. The Bible is a group of wise men's understanding of God as creation has been observed over time. As more knowledge and understanding was gained, the concept of God evolved. That isn't to say God evolved--man's understanding of the infinate evolved. Christians consider Jesus to be the ultimate prophet, Muslims see Jesus as a great prophet. Mormans see a continueing prophesy.

2. If he's all knowing, by definition, he knows it.

3. God used symbolism that an illiterate people could understand. This is also the reason for dietary law. Jews could eat chickens because they lived off of seed, but not eagles because they lived off of the suffering of others. You were to live like that you ate. The same is true of animal sacrifice, they were a symbol of how people were to live and die.

4. Christ wasn't his name, it was probably Yashua ben David. Christ is the Roman form of messiah. Which was the ultimate prophet predicted.

5. I see Noah as a symbol rather than a real person. That isn't the "fundamentalist" way. But God doesn't change, and Jesus spoke in parables so why wouldn't God speak in parables in the OT?

6. As with Adam and Eve, Noah's family did interbreed. There was no law against interbreeding until Moses.

7. Adam and Eve had other children as stated in the Bible. As in the answer above, interbreeding law didn't happen until Moses. This follows evolution as any new creature interbreeds until established.

8. I can't comment on your thoughts.

9. All of the wood ever created.

10. The Bible says that all people can observe creation and recognize there is a creator and honor that creator. The thing the "Fundies" don't recognize is that part of God which was to become Jesus was--in the beginning--the creator. So if you honor the creator, regardless of the name you give the creator, you are honoring the same part of God that became Jesus. Different religions are in different levels of evolution in their understanding of the nature of the creator. So, God accepts many types of honor. The Bible says, "In My Father's House Are Many Rooms."
Checklandia
09-09-2006, 23:35
1. Where is the Bible's proof that it is real?
2. How does God know he is all-knowing?
3. Why does god hate sheep and livestock?
4. If vanety is a sin why did Christ get to start a religoin that bares his name?
5. How did Noah gather aemebos?
6. How did Noahs family restart the human race race without Imbreeding,which has been labled as a sin?
7. Where the heck did Cains wife come from?
8. Why do I think god is the lesser of two evils?
9. How much wood could God chuck if god could chuck wood?
10. Why give peolple the choice to choose different religoins if your going to send them to hell for it?

If these questions offend any one I reccomend staying away from the "good news" for awhile then come back.

1.There is no proof, in fact many 'gospels'and holy scriptures have been rejected, so even if the bible is true, it is only about 1/4 of the truth(look up gnostics/gospel of mary magdeline/gospel of james/the list goes on)
2.if god exists, he knows he is all knowing because he knows everything
3.God doesnt hate sheep and livestock, the writers of the old testament probably got swindled by a sheep herder or a livestock keeper.God wouldnt have created them if he hated them.
4.Jesus said to spread the word of god, and as gods son he is also god.God 'created everything'so he is allowed to be vain.
5.he didnt, the story is a metaphor and they didnt know about 1 cell organisms then.
6.Either the gospel writers thought incest was okay,or they didnt think of that.
7.The people who wrote the gospels had no concept of continuity or consistance(and its a made up story, that the catholic church acknowleges as a metaphor)
8.You tell me.
9.Infinate amounts as he is omnipotent(all powerful-useful in the wook chucking business)omnicent(knows everything, even how to chuck wood)and omnipresent(he can chuck wood in all places at once)
10.god probably doesnt care what people believe in, but the writers of the ot wanted to scare people into submission to their freaky laws and customs.
Whatever you worship, its all the same thing in the end, and as long as you live well then god wont care.
Big Jim P
09-09-2006, 23:47
1. Where is the Bible's proof that it is real?
2. How does God know he is all-knowing?
3. Why does god hate sheep and livestock?
4. If vanety is a sin why did Christ get to start a religoin that bares his name?
5. How did Noah gather aemebos?
6. How did Noahs family restart the human race race without Imbreeding,which has been labled as a sin?
7. Where the heck did Cains wife come from?
8. Why do I think god is the lesser of two evils?
9. How much wood could God chuck if god could chuck wood?
10. Why give peolple the choice to choose different religoins if your going to send them to hell for it?

If these questions offend any one I reccomend staying away from the "good news" for awhile then come back.


1. You only have the bibles word for it. Belief in the bible is called faith.

2. The qusestion answers itself. Circular logic.

3. "God" wanted to place hardships on his followers to test their faith (and ability to survive starvation)

4. Jesus did take all mans sins (including vanity) on himself, right?

5. In his intestinal tract.

6. The same question arises with Adam and Eves family. (on a side note, whether you go by evolution or creation, no two humans are more distantly related than 50th cousins).

7. Eve, of course. (Might have been Lillith. I wasn't there so I don't know).

8. The concept of "God" is niether good, nor evil, just horribly out of date.

9. Even "God" himself can't figure that out.

10. No matter what you do, you will go to hell. Thats the name of the game.
JuNii
09-09-2006, 23:51
1. Where is the Bible's proof that it is real?you want the Bible to prove that it's real? simple. it can be physically picked up, manipulated, and can be detected by your 5 senses... thus it is real.
2. How does God know he is all-knowing?because he would know
3. Why does god hate sheep and livestock?who says he does. where does it say that he HATES sheep and Livestock. if you're referring to burnt offerings, we no longer do that.
4. If vanety is a sin why did Christ get to start a religoin that bares his name?he didn't. we started a religion baring Christ's name.
5. How did Noah gather aemebos?with very, very fine tweezers.
6. How did Noahs family restart the human race race without Imbreeding,which has been labled as a sin? the same place where Caine and Able wives came from.
7. Where the heck did Cains wife come from?same place where Abel's wife came from.
8. Why do I think god is the lesser of two evils?dunno, why do you think God is the lesser of Two Evils?
9. How much wood could God chuck if god could chuck wood?all of it.
10. Why give peolple the choice to choose different religoins if your going to send them to hell for it?because we have a choice. you can choose correctly or incorrectly. you can switch your choice as you go along, but the choice you make at the end of your life is your final choice. and only then do you find out if you made the right one or not.
BackwoodsSquatches
10-09-2006, 12:54
18. God is not evil, He is pure and holy. He just and merciful and all powerful.

Really?

Who made the Angelic Host...including the Seraphim, the Cherubim, the Ophanum..all of em?

God.

So...Lucifer...

If God created Lucifer, the most beautiful angel, and this very angel rebelled against God, and was cast down by the leader of the Armies of Heaven, the Archangel Michael...

Certainly, we can say that Satan/Lucifer is indeed evil, right?

If you believe that, then certainly you must see that Lucifer was only as God made him.
How could something learn of something else, that wasnt present with its creator?

Too many Christians like assume that only good and nice things come from God.
Thats such a completely unrealistic attitude, is borders on insanity.

If you believe in God, you must take the world as he gave it you, and realize that God must be both Good and Evil, the bastard giveth, AND taken away.

Try to widen that narrow view of yours.
Smunkeeville
10-09-2006, 13:16
I am about to go to church so I can't really debate, but here you go for now




1. Where is the Bible's proof that it is real?
there isn't any


2. How does God know he is all-knowing?
I don't know.



3. Why does god hate sheep and livestock?
he doesn't


4. If vanety is a sin why did Christ get to start a religoin that bares his name?
vanity is a sin for us people, not for God, He gets away with tons of things that we can't because our motives are wrong. It's all about intent.


5. How did Noah gather aemebos?
did he?

6. How did Noahs family restart the human race race without Imbreeding,which has been labled as a sin?
they didn't, or at least I don't think they did.


7. Where the heck did Cains wife come from?
the land of nod, it says that in the Bible.
however, other than that I don't know, she could have been his sister.


8. Why do I think god is the lesser of two evils?
because I choose to.


9. How much wood could God chuck if god could chuck wood?
as much as He wanted.

10. Why give peolple the choice to choose different religoins if your going to send them to hell for it?
I don't know.


If these questions offend any one I reccomend staying away from the "good news" for awhile then come back.
why would I be offended?
GoodThoughts
10-09-2006, 13:29
In regards to number 10, there are those who believe (including myself) that revealed religion is one. All of the Prophets of God have come over time to reveal that same religion that is progressively unveiled to humankind as they are able to understand the next level of God's spiritual message. It's mankinds arragorance that rejects the next Messanger and message that causes the religious warfare.

Religion is the outer expression of the divine reality. Therefore it must be living, vitalized, moving and progressive. If it be without motion and non-progressive it is without the divine life; it is dead. The divine institutes are continuously active and evolutionary; therefore the revelation of them must be progressive and continuous. All things are subject to re-formation.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 224)
Willamena
10-09-2006, 14:25
QUOTE=Himleret
1. Where is the Bible's proof that it is real? The proof that it is real is that I can pick it up and hold it in my hands. Oh wait... that's subjective. ;p
2. How does God know he is all-knowing? Perhaps because he's all-knowing?
3. Why does god hate sheep and livestock? Who says he does? Sacrifices are a great honour.
4. If vanety is a sin why did Christ get to start a religoin that bares his name? Maybe because it wasn't him who started it?
5. How did Noah gather aemebos? Verrrrry carefully.
6. How did Noahs family restart the human race race without Imbreeding[sic], which has been labled as a sin? Other people survived the flood.
7. Where the heck did Cains wife come from? The Bible doesn't say, just that they met in Nod.
8. Why do I think god is the lesser of two evils? Because you know something that you consider to be more evil than your idea of God.
9. How much wood could God chuck if god could chuck wood? Rhetorical question!
10. Why give peolple the choice to choose different religoins if your going to send them to hell for it? Perhaps because God doesn't "send", rather we do the "going".
Io Amaya
10-09-2006, 14:47
1. Where is the Bible's proof that it is real? Faith, I guess. I dunno.
2. How does God know he is all-knowing? He knows what He's created...?
3. Why does god hate sheep and livestock?He doesn't. If you're wondering why He always wants burnt offerings, it's beause sometimes even an all-powerful Alpha Omega gets hungry and likes his meat burnt.
4. If vanety is a sin why did Christ get to start a religoin that bares his name? He didn't start the religion Himself... it was created after he went back to heaven.
5. How did Noah gather aemebos? Amoebas? Not sure...
6. How did Noahs family restart the human race race without Imbreeding,which has been labled as a sin? Uhhh.....
7. Where the heck did Cains wife come from? Hillbilly family reunion...
8. Why do I think god is the lesser of two evils? He seems to be a megalomaniac.
9. How much wood could God chuck if god could chuck wood? Dunno, but could God microwave a burrito so hot that He Himself couldn't eat it?
10. Why give peolple the choice to choose different religoins if your going to send them to hell for it? Dunno. Oddly that's part of the reason why I'm not Christian.
If these questions offend any one I reccomend staying away from the "good news" for awhile then come back. Not offended, but I'm Agnostic so maybe that's why...
Edwardis
11-09-2006, 01:07
1. Where is the Bible's proof that it is real?

You can't prove it: that's why it's faith.

2. How does God know he is all-knowing?

:confused: Isn't this a self defeating question?

3. Why does god hate sheep and livestock?

:confused: If you're referring to the OT sacrifices, then I'm sure He would prefer animal sacrifice to human sacrifice, since He condemns the latter quite often.

4. If vanety is a sin why did Christ get to start a religoin that bares his name?

He didn't name it. In fact, the word Christian is used only three times in the Bible, two of which are used by non-Christians in reference to Christians. The Bible usually calls Christians saints or the elect.

5. How did Noah gather aemebos?

He didn't. Just like He didn't gather fish. The amoeba either survived in the water, or ended up on the ship by God's providence through some means (hitching a ride on a camel, maybe?)

6. How did Noahs family restart the human race race without Imbreeding,which has been labled as a sin?

Incest wasn't labeled a sin until the Law was given by Moses.

7. Where the heck did Cains wife come from?

Unless a woman was unusually imprtant, they weren't mentioned in the Bible, and Adam and Eve had many children.

8. Why do I think god is the lesser of two evils?

I don't know your mind.

9. How much wood could God chuck if god could chuck wood?

As much as He wanted to, and He can if He wants.

10. Why give peolple the choice to choose different religoins if your going to send them to hell for it?

God doesn't want robots.