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I know you'll say it wont happen, but what would Britain be like if it did?

Imagine they take power in the next electons after the Populace becomes most Britains were either too disillusioned or apathetic to vote for the Big Three Parties, so the Minority of the BNP becomes the Majority.

Think about it.

What would they do?

I know you'll say it wont happen, but what would Britain be like if it did?

Imagine they take power in the next electons after the Populace becomes most Britains were either too disillusioned or apathetic to vote for the Big Three Parties, so the Minority of the BNP becomes the Majority.

Think about it.

What would they do?They would rule with an iron fist until a man dressed up as Guy Fawkes blew up parliament and began a struggle to bring them down.

I know you'll say it wont happen, but what would Britain be like if it did?

Imagine they take power in the next electons after the Populace becomes most Britains were either too disillusioned or apathetic to vote for the Big Three Parties, so the Minority of the BNP becomes the Majority.

Think about it.

What would they do?
I really really don't want to....

I know you'll say it wont happen, but what would Britain be like if it did?


First, I wouldn't say it won't happen. I hear some scary shit from the UK.

I think it's increasingly likely. And what if some British equivalent of 9/11 happens? Then the BNP can rally yet more support in the same way the GOP did.


Imagine they take power in the next electons after the Populace becomes most Britains were either too disillusioned or apathetic to vote for the Big Three Parties, so the Minority of the BNP becomes the Majority.

Think about it.

What would they do?

Too depressing to think about, honestly. :(

They would rule with an iron fist until a man dressed up as Guy Fawkes blew up parliament and began a struggle to bring them down.

I have no idea what the BNP is, I am assuming British Nationalist Party, no?

please enlighten my ignorant yankee arse.

Well they will try to force all immigrants to leave after they encourage race riots and such of course it wont work and Britain will become a war zone and once the dust settles there will be no U.K rather England, Scotland ,Wales and the northern part of EIRE

I have no idea what the BNP is, I am assuming British Nationalist Party, no?

please enlighten my ignorant yankee ass.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/

Have a read. It's quite scary.

Here's a few ideas...

We leave the E.U... which isn't that *terrible*.
All immigration is stopped and immigrants are deported.
Police presence on every street looking for those exhibitting "Anti-British Values".

The Police will be given permission to arrest anyone they feel is threatening our Culture and will not shy from doing so.

And that's just off the top of my head.

:eek: I'm scared.

A BNP-ruled Britain? Id imagine it'd be much the same apart from economic collapse due to the immigrants who do the jobs Britons dont want to do being forced out. Oh, and the random beatings of non-whites and gays. What a nice bunch the BNP are

They would quickly destroy the economy and public infrastructure.

Electrical power would go out, gas supplies - even domestic ones - would be disrupted, the transport network would grind to a halt, water shortages would strike, food would start running low, public disorder would become ever more common, and eventually sisease would stalk the land as public health systems and sanitation failed.

And all because none of them have an education worth a damn.

They'd last about as long as the Labour government after the Winter of Discontent.

We leave the E.U... which isn't that *terrible*.


We can't leave the EU. One of the treaties we signed (Maarstrict I think but don't hold me to it) give the EU complete control over British law meaning that unless the EU approved the bill renouncing our membership it could never become law, a bit of a catch 22 for us really.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/

Have a read. It's quite scary.

wow, I haven't read any of the articles, but just looking at the titles puts a very disturbing image in my mind...I will read a few articles.

wow, I haven't read any of the articles, but just looking at the titles puts a very disturbing image in my mind...I will read a few articles.

dont, it would ruin our image, and think, they are alrady the offical opposition in a borough somewhere, like the commies are the opposition in flint or something

wow, I haven't read any of the articles, but just looking at the titles puts a very disturbing image in my mind...I will read a few articles.

just read some of the manifesto from the 2005 election

http://www.bnp.org.uk/candidates2005/man_menu.htm

We can't leave the EU. One of the treaties we signed (Maarstrict I think but don't hold me to it) give the EU complete control over British law meaning that unless the EU approved the bill renouncing our membership it could never become law, a bit of a catch 22 for us really.

No... I don't think they'd really be able to stop us leaving if the Government *really* wanted to.

All we need to do is stop obeying their rules and stop sending them delegations.

Sure the treaty says we can't, but what does the B.N.P. care?

We leave the E.U... which isn't that *terrible*.
Unless you're a farmer, or want free trade with Europe...

just read some of the manifesto from the 2005 election

http://www.bnp.org.uk/candidates2005/man_menu.htm

and that is their moderate policies, when they were the BUF (British Union of Facsists) they were Nazis of britain

Unless you're a farmer, or want free trade with Europe...

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for an E.U. superstate, but in comparison to the beatings of Gay or Black people, it's not really an issue.

No... I don't think they'd really be able to stop us leaving if the Government *really* wanted to.

All we need to do is stop obeying their rules and stop sending them delegations.

Sure the treaty says we can't, but what does the B.N.P. care?

Maybe true but a schism with Europe could very easily result in a trade embargo, I doubt that even the BNP are daft enough to completely destroy the economy of a country they intend to rule.

I think it's increasingly likely. And what if some British equivalent of 9/11 happens? Then the BNP can rally yet more support in the same way the GOP did.
The British people are not so easily bought into all of this "get the terrorists" stuff. The overwhelming response to the London Bombings of July last year was "We will go on as we did before", exactly as it should have been, and I don't doubt that the same would be true regardless of the scale of any potential attacks.

The British are passive aggressive by nature. We fight back by defiantly deflecting all attacks and getting on with things rather than making more enemies through a desire for revenge; a notion that is contrary to the pro-active hostility of the BNP and, indeed, to our government's own current foreign policy. In this respect, it is highly unlikely that the BNP, the clearest proponent of radical and forceful change, would ever take power by any means other than an armed uprising, just as it is the case that Blair's government is deeply unpopular among almost everyone in the country.

Maybe true but a schism with Europe could very easily result in a trade embargo, I doubt that even the BNP are daft enough to completely destroy the economy of a country they intend to rule.

Depends... would the E.U. really *want* a BNP ruled nation?

What I find funny about the BNP is that they are actually much closer to being Stalinist then their sworn foes, LabourUK and the rest of the SocIntern.

I doubt that even the BNP are daft enough to completely destroy the economy of a country they intend to rule.

Don't be so sure.

They would quickly destroy the economy and public infrastructure.

Electrical power would go out, gas supplies - even domestic ones - would be disrupted, the transport network would grind to a halt, water shortages would strike, food would start running low, public disorder would become ever more common, and eventually sisease would stalk the land as public health systems and sanitation failed.

And all because none of them have an education worth a damn.

They'd last about as long as the Labour government after the Winter of Discontent.

Save the last sentence that is an odd scenario.

They would quickly destroy the economy and public infrastructure.

Electrical power would go out, gas supplies - even domestic ones - would be disrupted, the transport network would grind to a halt, water shortages would strike, food would start running low, public disorder would become ever more common, and eventually sisease would stalk the land as public health systems and sanitation failed.

And all because none of them have an education worth a damn.

They'd last about as long as the Labour government after the Winter of Discontent.


Yeah I would imagine that would happen but unfortunatly by then the would have such power that they would rule the UK with an iron fist. I can't imagine the UK ruled by fascists I would think even the Conservatives hate the BNP.

LOL on the V for Vendetta reference. As long as I get to be the guy in the Guy Falkes costume.

Depends... would the E.U. really *want* a BNP ruled nation?

No, they'd want the money of a BNP ruled nation.

Save the last sentence that is an odd scenario.
Not at all. Give a nub a hideously complex machine, and watch the fireworks.

Nothing would change : British people love their pound sterling, eye asians with suspicion, even the government is only allowing new EU state citizens to move if they are desirable enuf for Britain. France and Germany opposed Iraq war, the former being Britains most hated land since the start of time! Tis just what the people think.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/

Have a read. It's quite scary.

hhhmmm, EU becoming an inter-national police state, liberals are allied with jihadists, Muslims can't be trusted to hold office in parliament.....its like an orgy of stupidity..

Madonna told me britons were smarted than this -_-

LOL on the V for Vendetta reference. As long as I get to be the guy in the Guy Falkes costume.

I kinda wanna know... Does anyone here have a small want for this to happen so they can live out their revolutionary day dreams?

Yeah I would imagine that would happen but unfortunatly by then the would have such power that they would rule the UK with an iron fist. I can't imagine the UK ruled by fascists I would think even the Conservatives hate the BNP.
You assume that power would naturally come with office.

I would wager that they would be weak, muddled and ineffectual.

Not at all. Give a nub a hideously complex machine, and watch the fireworks.

I'm not sure I'd call Nick Griffin a nub. I've heard him speak and he's disturbingly compelling and intelligent.

He may not make a good govener but he is an amazing orator.

I'm suprised no-one has mentioned some sort of civil war yet. (or have they)

I'm not sure I'd call Nick Griffin a nub. I've heard him speak and he's disturbingly compelling and intelligent.

He may not make a good govener but he is an amazing orator.

Reminds me of an other facist...

What was his name again?

Start's with a H or something...

I'm suprised no-one has mentioned some sort of civil war yet. (or have they)

They've meantioned a V for Vendetta style revolution.

Does that count?

They've meantioned a V for Vendetta style revolution.

Does that count?

Probably though i have never seen the movie. Whats it about?

Reminds me of an other facist...

What was his name again?

Start's with a H or something...

Very much so, even to the level that in the club where I saw him there were some very large men wearing nice dark suits watching the crowd for dissent.

I kinda wanna know... Does anyone here have a small want for this to happen so they can live out their revolutionary day dreams?


I have always had repressed revolutionary ideals. I always belived that I could maybe change the way the world is going but It doesn't seemed to be going that way.

Probably though i have never seen the movie. Whats it about?

It's about a Freedom Fighter/Terrorist trying to take down an Evil/Safe Fascist regeme in the UK.

PLUS he dresses like Guy Fawkes.
Cool Guy.

Guy Fawkles.
Cool Guy.

guy FAWKES


jeebus

Invade Poland?

Invade Poland?

don't be silly we need to re-occupy the channel first :p

guy FAWKES


jeebus

Spelling Nazi...

You assume that power would naturally come with office.

I would wager that they would be weak, muddled and ineffectual.

If they had a Hitler/Mussolini/Franco like leader they probaly would have a stronger government especailly if they had the approval from the Monarchy. Also TG if you look at the Italy/Germany/Spain(after WW2) during fascists they actually had a excellent economy.

Invade Poland?

don't be silly we need to re-occupy the channel first :p

Poor poland, i feel sorry for them.

Poor poland, i feel sorry for them.

Don't. It's not like anyone lives there.

I have no idea what the BNP is, I am assuming British Nationalist Party, no?

please enlighten my ignorant yankee arse.

Spot on. As we are a parliamentary democracy, rather than elected dictatorship on a four year cycle, anyone can make a party up, or be an independent, and wield a little power in our system. BNP is the most widely supported hard right party here. Essentially racist xenophobes preying on poverty stricken areas with high immigrant populations. And we have a well tabloided illegels problem in the UK they exploit. They usually have a few local politicians in minor posts here and there, but it's thankfully unlikely they'll get one MP, let alone enough to form a government.

If the BNP ever managed to put both of their brain cells together and managed to win a general election...

COMRADES! TO SWITZERLAND!

If the BNP ever managed to put both of their brain cells together and managed to win a general election...

COMRADES! TO SWITZERLAND!

I don't understand why people assume that the BNP are all stupid, as I said earilier Nick Griffins is a very intelligent bloke. His politics may suck but it doesn't make him stupid and it's a little dangerous to assume that it does.

I've just realised how easy it would be for the BNP.

They would just have to put a new Labour face one.... All smiles and comfort with their femine sides.
You're average eegeit on the street would probably vote for them just because they had a good image.

They would rule with an iron fist until a man dressed up as Guy Fawkes blew up parliament and began a struggle to bring them down.

Aha. Therein lies the reason they couldn't last. To rule with an iron fist, you need the support of the military. Anything noticeably undemocratic, like banning other parties, and bang goes that support. Our military, certainly the leadership, are proper bright. Probably right wing old men, but I'm thinking pro Thatcher right wing not dangerous loony right wing.

I don't understand why people assume that the BNP are all stupid, as I said earilier Nick Griffins is a very intelligent bloke. His politics may suck but it doesn't make him stupid and it's a little dangerous to assume that it does.

Hold on whilst I find this lovely article...

Aha. Therein lies the reason they couldn't last. To rule with an iron fist, you need the support of the military. Anything noticeably undemocratic, like banning other parties, and bang goes that support. Our military, certainly the leadership, are proper bright. Probably right wing old men, but I'm thinking pro Thatcher right wing not dangerous loony right wing.

actually the Queen decides power in Britain its who the armed forces swear an oath to (but what if we have the prince of Wales on the throne God knows what he will do afterwards)

You assume that power would naturally come with office.

I would wager that they would be weak, muddled and ineffectual.

I agree. Politicians have enough trouble getting the opposition-appointed Civil Service to do what they want without being the BNP - and having a distinct lack of the intellectual ability to run government, if experience with BNP councillors is experience enough. In one case these councillors were fooled into passing a motion encouraging migrants to sette into their district, and in another walked out because they didn't know what the budget was for.

Funny if it wasn't so serious.

In all honesty, something like V for Vendetta would not be beyond reason. Unfortunately, if they managed to implement enough of their policies, the result would likely be a violent retaliation by many immigrants, especially Muslims (since they'd be the main target). That would bring the people over to the BNP's side, resulting in their entrenchement in British politics.

Another question is, how quickly would the US end the alliance with Britain? Given that half of the policies in here are quite contrary to American values (especially anything regarding culture), I doubt many American politicians would stand by the British.

EDIT: There is also the question of how long the monarchy would tolerate such a government. If the Queen went public and condemned the BNP, what would be the result?

Probably though i have never seen the movie. Whats it about?The comic book is better. By strange coincidence, it's lying next to my left elbow.

I know you'll say it wont happen, but what would Britain be like if it did?

Imagine they take power in the next electons after the Populace becomes most Britains were either too disillusioned or apathetic to vote for the Big Three Parties, so the Minority of the BNP becomes the Majority.

Think about it.

What would they do?
Force all sane people to emigrate to the relatively liberal America.

Force all sane people to emigrate to the relatively liberal America.

LOL...that just looks funny when talking about a European country.:p

You think the BNP is bad...imagine the NPD getting into government.

http://www.npd.de/medien/bilder/brd.gif

Look at the way they drew the Eastern Border. :rolleyes:

EDIT: You might have to highlight the post, the white background isn't ideal.

You think the BNP is bad...imagine the NPD getting into government.

http://www.npd.de/medien/bilder/brd.gif

Look at the way they drew the Eastern Border. :rolleyes:

EDIT: You might have to highlight the post, the white background isn't ideal.

I dont get it...like it keeps going on into Czeck Republic and Poland because thats the first places Hitler attacked???

http://www.bnp.org.uk/

Have a read. It's quite scary.

Thanks for the link ;)

I dont get it...like it keeps going on into Czeck Republic and Poland because thats the first places Hitler attacked???

No. The NPD thinks that the territories of former Prussia and Sudetenland belong to Germany by right, and thus refuses to accept Germany's eastern border.
(However, I wonder that Elsaß-Lothringen isn't included on their map.)

If you want to now what would be the right borders in the NPD's opinion, take a look on a map of Germany before World War One.

No. The NPD thinks that the territories of former Prussia and Sudetenland belong to Germany by right, and thus refuses to accept Germany's eastern border.
(However, I wonder that Elsaß-Lothringen isn't included on their map.)

If you want to now what would be the right borders in the NPD's opinion, take a look on a map of Germany before World War One.

I was thinking the EXACT same thing....wasnt that a very hot area, that France and Germany conflicted over?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/German_Empire%2C_Wilhelminian_second_version.PNG
Nice chunk o' land there. :p

I was thinking the EXACT same thing....wasnt that a very hot area, that France and Germany conflicted over?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/German_Empire%2C_Wilhelminian_second_version.PNG
Nice chunk o' land there. :p

Ireland looks very nice without a border...

I know you'll say it wont happen, but what would Britain be like if it did?

Imagine they take power in the next electons after the Populace becomes most Britains were either too disillusioned or apathetic to vote for the Big Three Parties, so the Minority of the BNP becomes the Majority.

Think about it.

What would they do?

I think they'd try to do what they claim:

The ending of immigration to the UK
"A massively-funded and permanent programme, using and doubling Britain's current foreign aid budget, will aim to reduce, by voluntary resettlement to their lands of ethnic origin, the proportion of ethnic minorities living in Britain" [29]
The removal of all illegal immigrants [30]
The repeal of all equality and anti-discrimination legislation, including the Race Relations Act and measures aimed at employing people with disabilities.
Withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union and the pursuit of protectionist economic measures.
Encouraging greater share ownership and worker co-operatives.
Restricting foreign aid to the support of countries receiving "repatriated" members of ethnic minorities. Griffin argued against giving unconditional foreign aid, including disaster aid, claiming 'charity' is not an acceptable use of public funds[31].
The introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the introduction of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers.
The reintroduction of national service and the withdrawal of some civil rights from conscientious objectors, including the right to vote.[32]
The requirement that all law-abiding adults completing national service maintain a standard-issue military assault rifle and ammunition in their home.[33]
A mandatory jail term for anyone assaulting an NHS worker.
Providing extra resources for special needs children, and reversing the closure of special needs schools.[34]
The reunification of the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland in a 'federation of the nations of the British Isles'[35]
Other policies include the promotion of organic farming, funding to encourage women (in every family) to stay home and raise children not yet of school age, and increasing defence spending.

Link (http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/policies.htm)

I think they'd try to do what they claim:

The ending of immigration to the UK
"A massively-funded and permanent programme, using and doubling Britain's current foreign aid budget, will aim to reduce, by voluntary resettlement to their lands of ethnic origin, the proportion of ethnic minorities living in Britain" [29]
The removal of all illegal immigrants [30]
The repeal of all equality and anti-discrimination legislation, including the Race Relations Act and measures aimed at employing people with disabilities.
Withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union and the pursuit of protectionist economic measures.
Encouraging greater share ownership and worker co-operatives.
Restricting foreign aid to the support of countries receiving "repatriated" members of ethnic minorities. Griffin argued against giving unconditional foreign aid, including disaster aid, claiming 'charity' is not an acceptable use of public funds[31].
The introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the introduction of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers.
The reintroduction of national service and the withdrawal of some civil rights from conscientious objectors, including the right to vote.[32]
The requirement that all law-abiding adults completing national service maintain a standard-issue military assault rifle and ammunition in their home.[33]
A mandatory jail term for anyone assaulting an NHS worker.
Providing extra resources for special needs children, and reversing the closure of special needs schools.[34]
The reunification of the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland in a 'federation of the nations of the British Isles'[35]
Other policies include the promotion of organic farming, funding to encourage women (in every family) to stay home and raise children not yet of school age, and increasing defence spending.

Link (http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/policies.htm)

Allo of it evil. I doubt the Republic Of Ireland would want anything to do with a BNP government. Also people you must realise even if a party wins a generla elecition the Queen can choose anyone to be a leader and deny the winnig party the right to form government. If they did get into power I'd be one of the people starting a revolution

Ireland looks very nice without a border...

Yeah, it does...and look at Austria-Hungary..DAMN!:eek:

Yeah, it does...and look at Austria-Hungary..DAMN!:eek:

Hmmmm.

Thing is, now adays, having borders like that wouldn't make that much of a difference.

We're all democracies now. =)

I wouldn't care all that much. If the BNP was actually democratically elected, then problems such as immigration and crime would have grew to the point that this country wasn't worth living in. Under those circumstances I doubt things could really get much worse.

First, I wouldn't say it won't happen. I hear some scary shit from the UK.

I think it's increasingly likely. And what if some British equivalent of 9/11 happens? Then the BNP can rally yet more support in the same way the GOP did.

Too depressing to think about, honestly. :(

It really is quite dramatically unlikely.

Facism was rather big in Western Europe in the 1930s, with Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal all having facist Governments. Meanwhile the British Union of Fascist got absolutely nowhere.

Terrorism is hardly new to the UK.

I am not sure what you base this fear on, but as a resident in the UK, I feel confident I can reasssure you. I live here, and whilst nowhere is perfect, there is not too much in the way of scary shit.

I think BNP should tone it down and they can have a chance of being one of the biggest 3 parties. Like trying to annex Ireland sounds too surreal. And someone said they are homophobic? Or like denying right to people who refuse to go to military. They should tone it down. They got a huge support when it comes to immigration.



A majority of people back the British National Party's policies, according to a poll released today.

But the YouGov survey found that many people disown the policies once they are associated with the BNP.

What do you think of the BNP's policies? Have your say in our reader comments below.

The poll comes ahead of local elections next week when there are fears the BNP could make an electoral breakthrough.

It found that 59 per cent of people supported a halt to all further immigration to the UK - one of the BNP's main pledges - when they were not told of the far-right group's association with the policy.

Among those who were told that it was a BNP commitment, support for the policy was only 48 per cent.

And 52 per cent of those who took part in the survey agreed that all immigrants should be denied the right to bring further members of their family into this country. But when told it was a BNP policy, support fell by 9 per cent.

Overall there was 55 per cent support for BNP policies until people were informed of the party's stance, when backing dropped to 49 per cent.

More than a third of people, 37 per cent, said they would seriously consider voting for the BNP's policies in an election. But identifying the BNP with the policies caused support to fall by 17 per cent.

Large majorities dismissed two of the BNP's most hardline ideas. Some 68 per cent refused to support the stance that non-white British citizens are inherently less British than white people.

And 52 per cent were opposed to encouraging immigrants and their families to leave Britain.

Peter Kellner, chairman of YouGov, commented: "The results demonstrate that the BNP is tapping into some widely-held views, but that the party suffers from a negative image.

"If the BNP were able to erase this view, it could make significant gains in the upcoming local elections. This may explain what is happening in certain localities where the BNP now polls strongly."

The poll was carried out for Sky News, between April 21 and 24. Around 900 people were asked if they supported policies without any mention of the BNP, while 941 were told that they were BNP commitments.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=384167&in_page_id=1770


BRITAIN has been named as one of the most xenophobic countries in the world, surpassing France, Germany, Spain and Japan in its hostility to immigration.

A new opinion poll which sampled opinion across ten countries found the majority of people in Britain are supportive of religious tolerance - but still believe that immigration has damaged the country.

The research triggered a mixture of disbelief and concern from mainstream political parties yesterday, amid fears that asylum is becoming a growing issue ahead of the 10 June European Parliament elections.

Ipsos, a Paris-based polling firm, found 60 per cent believing that immigrants were a bad influence on Britain - the highest proportion of all countries surveyed.

France, where the far-right National Front came second in the presidential election two years ago, emerged as one of the more moderate countries in the study with only 53 per cent arguing that migrants made the country worse.


http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=602872004

Hmmmm.

Thing is, now adays, having borders like that wouldn't make that much of a difference.

We're all democracies now. =)

It would still make a huge difference. More resources, more people to contribute to your economy, ect....

Allo of it evil. I doubt the Republic Of Ireland would want anything to do with a BNP government. Also people you must realise even if a party wins a generla elecition the Queen can choose anyone to be a leader and deny the winnig party the right to form government. If they did get into power I'd be one of the people starting a revolution

Yeah. Our approval is kind of crucial, and I can't think of any circumstances in which we would join.

Or you could invade ''poor catholic Belgium'' oops! sorry Ireland.

Guess what that would achieve.

Yeah. Our approval is kind of crucial, and I can't think of any circumstances in which we would join.

Or you could invade ''poor catholic Belgium'' oops! sorry Ireland.

Guess what that would achieve.

If the Republic was invaded... the USA would go Men-tal on the UK's ass...

all of this is just one of those moral panics that pop up every once in a while... depending on the impact of the enlarged EU next year and how the war on terror develops (conected with "islamophobia") itll pass in a couple of years or so... and although the BNP are gaining gorund i think the libdems are much more likely to gain strength in this envrionment, especially if labour doesnt get out to well out of this mandate

all of this is just one of those moral panics that pop up every once in a while... depending on the impact of the enlarged EU next year and how the war on terror develops (conected with "islamophobia") itll pass in a couple of years or so... and although the BNP are gaining gorund i think the libdems are much more likely to gain strength in this envrionment, especially if labour doesnt get out to well out of this mandate

I don't know... There is still an air of "throwing your vote away" when you vote for the Lib Dems. I think it's the Tories who will gain power.

absolutely, what i was saying was only that libdems will show more growth than the BNP could dream of:rolleyes:

Scotland would not put up with Griffin and declare themselves independent straight away.

"They came to stand besides the English people,
To try and stand the rising fascist tide.
Griffin's allies were powerful and anti-social
Gavin Simpson's men came from the other side.

Even the barley was bleeding,
As the battle for Carlisle had thundered on,
Truth and love against the force of evil
Brotherhood against the fascist clan."

"Many Germans heard the call of Griffin.
Joined Verdonk and Sarkozy too.
Propaganda from the tabloids and from Murdoch,
Helped Dewinter to enlist his fascist crew.

But the word came from Salmond, support the redshirts,
For goodness' sake the nazi's failed their plan,
As the imams blessed the redshirts down in Weeze,
As they flew to fight the swastika in Leeds."

Kudos for the person recognizing the original version of this song:)

I have no idea what the BNP is, I am assuming British Nationalist Party, no?

please enlighten my ignorant yankee arse.

yup,british nationalist party,racist scumbags.They want to introduce incentives for people to go back to their 'native' lands(this incuded pakistani decendants who have lived in gb for generations)special treatment for the 'indiginous'peoples of gb.They are gaining support at the mo as it is percieved-especially among the working class-that no party represents the 'white persons' vote.They make out they are not racist,but they are, they just disguise it to get people to vote for them.Others voted for them as aprotest against labour(some protest)

They would rule with an iron fist until a man dressed up as Guy Fawkes blew up parliament and began a struggle to bring them down.

Hahaha ... you beat me to it!

The reunification of the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland in a 'federation of the nations of the British Isles'[35]


That, I would like to see them try.

Scotland would not put up with Griffin and declare themselves independent straight away.

"They came to stand besides the English people,
To try and stand the rising fascist tide.
Griffin's allies were powerful and anti-social
Gavin Simpson's men came from the other side.

Even the barley was bleeding,
As the battle for Carlisle had thundered on,
Truth and love against the force of evil
Brotherhood against the fascist clan."

"Many Germans heard the call of Griffin.
Joined Verdonk and Sarkozy too.
Propaganda from the tabloids and from Murdoch,
Helped Dewinter to enlist his fascist crew.

But the word came from Salmond, support the redshirts,
For goodness' sake the nazi's failed their plan,
As the imams blessed the redshirts down in Weeze,
As they flew to fight the swastika in Leeds."

Kudos for the person recognizing the original version of this song:)

Vive La Quinta Brigada!

Scotland would not put up with Griffin and declare themselves independent straight away.

"They came to stand besides the English people,
To try and stand the rising fascist tide.
Griffin's allies were powerful and anti-social
Gavin Simpson's men came from the other side.

Even the barley was bleeding,
As the battle for Carlisle had thundered on,
Truth and love against the force of evil
Brotherhood against the fascist clan."

"Many Germans heard the call of Griffin.
Joined Verdonk and Sarkozy too.
Propaganda from the tabloids and from Murdoch,
Helped Dewinter to enlist his fascist crew.

But the word came from Salmond, support the redshirts,
For goodness' sake the nazi's failed their plan,
As the imams blessed the redshirts down in Weeze,
As they flew to fight the swastika in Leeds."

Kudos for the person recognizing the original version of this song:)


I would think that Scotland would find a new William Wallace to defend itself against the British Fascists. Probaly Wales and N. Ireland would join them to.

Calling the British National Party a "political party" is a misnomer. What they are is a motley gang of thugs, half-wits, louts, and crooks.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/BNP_Sun_headline.jpg

BLOODY

NASTY

PEOPLE

sums it up nicely.

The BNP are just sickening. I've read the manefesto to see what they feed to the public. Thats bad enough, then of course you have to remember that's the public image. The hardcore members would be much worse.

I personally believe a revolution would quickly ensue. And it would turn into something resembling a modern Spanish civil war.

The BNP would be a complete failiure as a government anyway. Removing all non-white pure british people would cut the workforce and destroy the economy. The logistics of such a job would be unimaginable.
Britian is not self sufficient, we require imports, the entire history of britain is one big trade agreement. Isolationism would cripple the nation. Imagine it, no cotton, no steel, no oil, no free trade from EU nations.
Boycotts of british products would undoubtly happen.

I would type more but i have to go now.

Although i swear here, If the BNP ever took control of britian. I would take up an active resistance to them.
Long Live The Resistance!

http://www.bnp.org.uk/

Have a read. It's quite scary.

I thought their actual chances were quite remote.

I would think that Scotland would find a new William Wallace to defend itself against the British Fascists. Probaly Wales and N. Ireland would join them to.

Why would they want some rich **** to lead them like to lambs to the slaughter at the hands of the english?

Braveheart was based off a storytale

I think the Royal Family would be sensible enough to sack a BNP led government on the first signs of trouble (like beatings of asians as a policy etc)

I think the Royal Family would be sensible enough to sack a BNP led government on the first signs of trouble (like beatings of asians as a policy etc)

Nah. Ever heard Prince Philip when he thinks the microphones are turned off? Ever seen Harry in a Nazi uniform? ;)

bah... forget the nazi prince and everything... let us remember that in soviet britain tea drinks you:D (although you can't really imply anything about labour with that line anymore)

The BNP should be all arrested as everyone knows they incite racial hatred and want to turn Britain into a pure British place ( hmm sounds similar to what those ebul muslims want to do :rolleyes: BUT they can't because of political freedom which even though it means this party can stay thats something I wouldn't want to give up.



VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

I don't reckon the BNP will _ever_ manage to attain power 'democractically'

The BNP now have 52 Local Councillors after the 2006 Local Elections here in Britain. There are 20,000 Councillors in total however.

Lets also remember that our First Past The Post Westminster system is pretty unforgiving at General Elections. We essentially live in a two party (some would now say three) state. 616 out of our 646 MP's belong to the three biggest parties. The BNP would be lucky to get a handful of MP's at the next election, let alone enough to form a government or be invited into a coalition government. Thats the beauty of having a FPTP system rather than proportional representation see, fringe parties don't stand a chance. Just too many votes for them to overcome...

Why would they want some rich **** to lead them like to lambs to the slaughter at the hands of the english?

Braveheart was based off a storytale


The real William Wallace not the movie Braveheart(which was very inaccurate) by that anti-semite, Mel Gibson. He probaly would want the BNP in power.

I'm really wondering here about the OP. I don't for a second think that the BNP has any realistic chance of getting into power. So is this some sort of paranoia exercise?

I'm really wondering here about the OP. I don't for a second think that the BNP has any realistic chance of getting into power. So is this some sort of paranoia exercise?

Hmmm...i kinda thought that too. BNP might make gains if the Islamic extremist threat intensifies, but even then i doubt there are enough people in Britain who would be stupid enough to vote for the BNP to allow them to form a government. But it makes a change from threads about abortion and gay marriage, so can't criticise too much!:D

I have no idea what the BNP is, I am assuming British Nationalist Party, no?

please enlighten my ignorant yankee arse.

The british equivalent of the U.S. Bushists.

The real William Wallace not the movie Braveheart(which was very inaccurate) by that anti-semite, Mel Gibson. He probaly would want the BNP in power.

thought he is a kafflic! he has as much to fear from these boys as the asians!!

As much as I don't like the BNP I feel to be a real democratic country we should let them stay.

Theres a quote, 'As much as I hate what you say, I will fight to the death for your right to say it'.

As much as I don't like the BNP I feel to be a real democratic country we should let them stay.

Theres a quote, 'As much as I hate what you say, I will fight to the death for your right to say it'.

even if they explicitly state they will remove democratic freedoms first chance they get?

no free speech for facists. ever. :sniper:

even if they explicitly state they will remove democratic freedoms first chance they get?

no free speech for facists. ever. :sniper:

Would that not make us as bad as them? While your at its lets execute paedophiles in the streets by public stoning? If you ban the BNP, why not ban the anarchists, Class War, Communists its a spiral.

Would that not make us as bad as them? While your at its lets execute paedophiles in the streets by public stoning? If you ban the BNP, why not ban the anarchists, Class War, Communists its a spiral.


where did i say ban them? i said no free speech. SF were banned from the media, why not the same approach to the BNP?


nice strawmanning btw. how did you make the leap from not allowing facists to use democracy to subvert it to linching kiddyfiddlers?

No thats just a BNP policy I imagine of shooting them in the street.

SF was actively and well know to be involved in terrorist activities by the inteligence community. As yet the BNP have no been found connected to wanting to kill people.