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Pride

Edwardis
08-09-2006, 19:11
I've always known it, but I've noticed recently that there's a lot of pride in the world.

How do you define pride? I think it's a desire to promote one's self interest, of course it can be defined many different ways and those different definitions can be applied to different things. For example, school pride, national pride, protect one's pride (speaking mainly of protecting one's name from slander, etc.), and many other things can be called pride. I would like to focus on pride as the advancement of one's own self interest.

So my questions are:

Do you consider yourself prideful? I do.

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? I do, if we're speaking of the advancement of self-interest.

How do you respond to pride in others? I have to say it depends on the situation for me.

How do you fight pride in your own life? Prayer and smacking my own wrist (figuratively).

Feel free to add other questions or go more in depth or whatever.
Drunk commies deleted
08-09-2006, 19:15
Do you consider yourself prideful? I've never thought about it. Maybe sometimes.

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? No, I'm not prideful to a harmful degree. At least I don't think I am.

How do you respond to pride in others? They're entitled to their pride.

How do you fight pride in your own life? Don't think I've ever felt the need to fight pride.


BTW, there is one definition of pride you've forgotten. http://www.pridefc.com/
United Discordianists
08-09-2006, 19:16
Do you consider yourself prideful? Yes, when I feel like I'm doing something worthwile.

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? No. Just no.

How do you respond to pride in others? Hey, we're all free agents.

How do you fight pride in your own life? I don't.
Smunkeeville
08-09-2006, 19:16
when I think about pride I think about being self absorbed, interested only in things that involve you. You don't really have to even like yourself to be prideful, you can spend your whole life hating yourself and still be self absorbed.

Do you consider yourself prideful? yes.

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? I think being self aborbed is bad. Some people don't seem to make the same distinction that I do about pride=self centered though.


How do you respond to pride in others? I really try to remember that it's a problem we all have and try not to judge them, but there are people who are so prideful that it makes me almost physically ill.

How do you fight pride in your own life? I try to remember that as much as I like (or hate) myself, in the grand scheme of things I really don't matter much more than anyone else. I try to remind myself the important things in life, and remember my own self interest isn't one of the top 10
Pyotr
08-09-2006, 19:26
Making oneself superior and also wishing to appear so publicly. If the first is lacking and the second is desired nevertheless, then one speaks of vanity. If the second is lacking and is not missed, then one speaks of pride.

*nods*
Revasser
08-09-2006, 19:32
Do you consider yourself prideful? Yep.

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? No. It's natural and, when justified, perfectly acceptable.

How do you respond to pride in others? Ask them why they're proud. If it's for what I consider to be a good reason, I'll happily acknowledge it. If it's not, then I'll probably scoff and make a sarcastic remark.

How do you fight pride in your own life? I don't believe in quaint little notions of false humility or of pride being "sinful", so there is no need for me to "fight" it. If I'm proud for no good reason, there are plenty of people around willing to call me out on it.
Glitziness
08-09-2006, 19:45
I can be proud of things I do, or who I am, but I wouldn't call myself prideful and I don't know anyone who would call me that.

Pride, in the sense of valueing yourself and your achievements, is a good thing, if you're still compassionate and kind towards others, and relatively modest. Being arrogant or looking down on others, I cannot stand.

My response would vary on the situation. I'm generally not that judgemental in my actions, and always give people the benefit of the doubt.

And I've never felt the need to fight pride, because I don't think I've ever been prideful in a bad way... I have more of a problem of being too critical of myself, if anything.
Edwardis
08-09-2006, 19:50
And I've never felt the need to fight pride, because I don't think I've ever been prideful in a bad way... I have more of a problem of being too critical of myself, if anything.

Better to be too critical than not critical enough in my mind.
The Mindset
08-09-2006, 19:56
Do you consider yourself prideful? Yes, especially when I believe I've done a good job.

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? No. I think that pride is a good thing; it makes me feel good, and doesn't harm others.

How do you respond to pride in others? I mock them if their pride is misplaced, or, congradulate them if it isn't.

How do you fight pride in your own life? I don't. Pride is a good thing.
IL Ruffino
08-09-2006, 20:14
Pride is just propaganda used by the neocons and the homos.
Fartsniffage
08-09-2006, 20:15
Pride is just propaganda used by the neocons and the homos.

As in Gay Pride Parades? It's all starting to make sense now :cool:
Zilam
08-09-2006, 20:20
For the most part I am not prideful, however i do have my touts with it, and when i do, it is rather extreme.
Edwardis
08-09-2006, 20:22
Pride is just propaganda used by the neocons and the homos.

So Jesus was either a homo or a neocon? It's not looking good either way.
Laerod
08-09-2006, 20:27
Do you consider yourself prideful? Yes and no. There are times when I'm utterly convinced of myself and others when I unnecessarily put down what I can be proud of. I try to walk the line between the two, though.

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? Prideful, perhaps, but not proud when it is valid.

How do you respond to pride in others? Depends on the situation and what they are proud about.

How do you fight pride in your own life? I make jokes about being overly proud and make sure to drop the line "and I'm incredibly modest on top of all that."

What makes it difficult to stay on the carpet? For one, I get told I'm cute quite often. I'm trying not to let it get to my head (posting it here shows that it has, somewhat) by making "cute" and "attractive" attributes similar to height in my mind.
Laerod
08-09-2006, 20:29
Better to be too critical than not critical enough in my mind.Better to die of thirst than to drown?
Cabra West
08-09-2006, 20:30
Do you consider yourself prideful? No. Proud, yes. Of many things. But I'm not even sure what prideful is exctly.

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? Well, if it's the same as being proud, no. It took me avery long time to actually allow myself to be proud of things I achieved, pride is a very good thing. As long as it's not excessive.

How do you respond to pride in others? I normally congratulate them on it. Unless it's excessive and unfounded, in which case I'll try to bring them down to earth.

How do you fight pride in your own life? Fight it? Are you f****ing kidding me? I'm fighting to be able to take pride in more things I achieved!!! I'm fighting for pride, not against it.
Edwardis
08-09-2006, 20:31
Better to die of thirst than to drown?

In my mind. But you can pick your own poison.
Cabra West
08-09-2006, 20:32
So Jesus was either a homo or a neocon? It's not looking good either way.

Are you saying Jesus was a propagandist?
Pure Metal
08-09-2006, 20:33
Do you consider yourself prideful? i don't consider myself prideful but i am, inside, far more than i let on

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? yup.

How do you respond to pride in others? very badly. pride, if manifested in arrogance makes me want to hit people.

How do you fight pride in your own life? i try to be modest and remember to be humble if i can. i try not to put others down or put myself 'up' so to speak.
Laerod
08-09-2006, 20:35
In my mind. But you can pick your own poison.Better to avoid both extremes ;)
Edwardis
08-09-2006, 20:38
Are you saying Jesus was a propagandist?

No, but someone else is. I can't remember who made the comment: pride is only propaganda used by neocons and homos. Or something similar.

Jesus talked about being meek, and was therefore speaking against pride.
Willamena
08-09-2006, 20:43
How do you define pride? Pride is righteousness about one's own importance or glory.

Do you consider yourself prideful? Not generally.

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? It depends on the circumstances. It can be self-defeating in some instances, self-promoting in others. Endearing in some people, replusive in others.

How do you respond to pride in others? Again, it depends on the circumstances. If it is healthy pride,then I applaude it (literally, or figuratively).

How do you fight pride in your own life? I don't find it necessary to do so.
IL Ruffino
08-09-2006, 20:58
I'm an ass for never reading the complete OP..

Do you consider yourself prideful? Yes.

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? No.

How do you respond to pride in others? I don't mind unless they shove it in my face..

How do you fight pride in your own life? I see no point in ruining my ego.

Feel free to add other questions or go more in depth or whatever.
I'm vain, too. But seeing as I use to have such a bad self image, I see no problem overcoming a shitty life and feeling good about myself and what not.
So Jesus was either a homo or a neocon? It's not looking good either way.
Who said I think Jesus was real? :)
UpwardThrust
08-09-2006, 21:00
Do you consider yourself prideful? I do at times

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? Not within limits (where pride becomes a harmful trait rather then a helpful one)

How do you respond to pride in others? Depends on the person

How do you fight pride in your own life? I don’t fight it I control it … I do so just by keeping my eyes open to the good AND bad effects of my attitude and weigh when it becomes out of balance
Edwardis
08-09-2006, 21:00
Who said I think Jesus was real? :)

:(
IL Ruffino
08-09-2006, 21:01
:(
*shrugs*

Sorry.
Upper Botswavia
08-09-2006, 21:18
I am proud of myself when I do well, and not when I do wrong. But I don't think being proud is of necessity a bad thing. Only when it is unjustified.
Llewdor
08-09-2006, 21:20
No need to apologise. I'm quite proud of my absence of belief in Jesus.

I deem pride irrelevant. You can be proud or not - your call. What's relevant is whether the subject of your pride is worthy of pride.

It makes sense that Christians wouldn't be proud. I wouldn't be proud either if my entire worldview was based on unreasonable beliefs.
Dinaverg
08-09-2006, 21:27
Yay pride! My pride is awesome, I'm awesome....awesome pride. Yup.
Vacuumhead
08-09-2006, 21:55
Do you consider yourself prideful? Of course. ;)

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? Absolutely not. I have pride and respect for myself, I have pride in the things I do (or at least the good things or stuff I have tried very hard at). Pride encourages me to be creative and helpful, that feeling of self-satisfaction is good. Yeah, pride is fantastic. :)

How do you respond to pride in others? Usually I'll respond postively, unless they have so much pride that they think they're generally better than other people and announce it. Although I don't even see that as a bad thing, a little annoying, but I can live with it.

How do you fight pride in your own life? Didn't I mention I thought it was a good thing? I fight for pride. Go on, feel better about yourself. Give in to your pride. :cool:
Chandelier
08-09-2006, 22:23
"Do you consider yourself prideful?"
I tend to vary between being proud and sometimes arrogant about the things that I do very well and self-depreciating about things that I don't like about myself.

"Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful?"
If taken too far or if it hurts others, yes.

"How do you respond to pride in others?"
Depends on how the pride they have compares to the pride their accomplishment merits...

"How do you fight pride in your own life?"
I try to manage it as best I can. I'm more concerned with my perfectionism hurting me, although it's hard for me to not become prideful about school. I try not to be arrogant about it, but sometimes its hard. I do tend to be very critical of myself in everything but school, and in school when I don't live up to my own high standards.
Kamsaki
08-09-2006, 22:36
How do you define Pride? Pride is an assessment of the value of a part of your identity that you actively assert to be somehow superior to an etherial standard.

Do you consider yourself prideful? Not as such. I place value in myself as a member of a greater machine and in what I contribute to this system that helps it to function, but rarely does this actually filter down to any notion of personal or communal superiority. I am, as has been said manys a time, doing my job.

Do you think it's bad for you to be prideful? I think pride in certain things can be misplaced, but I also think it is no bad thing to be aware of and to accept and acknowledge our strengths rather than fear them or cover them up.

How do you respond to pride in others? Pride in itself may not necessarily receive any action from me. I do not react well to arrogance, well placed or not, but it is only truthful to acknowledge and appreciate that in which we are gifted. The trick is to not become too engrossed in this truth.

How do you fight pride in your own life? When you look at the role you play relative to the entire of existence, you learn to appreciate both yourself as an individual and that of everything else as well. Pride in myself is often tempered by perspective, such that my strengths become those of others as well as my own.
Vesperia Prime
08-09-2006, 22:39
Pride is fine until it turns into arrogance. There's a very thin line.