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this is the ABC I am talking about http://abc.com (not the other ABCs)

the latest neocon propaganda at ABC makes me wonder.

WTF do Jews have to do with anything?

WTF do Jews have to do with anything?

To Ocean, everything is a Jewish conspiracy.

Am I the only one who don't really gives a rats ass about "Deseprate Housewives"?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/funny/tinfoil-hat.jpg

WTF do Jews have to do with anything?good question.


in my book.. the Jewish Lobby was very supportive of the Iraq war.
extremely supportive...
desicively supportive...

good question.
in my book.. the Jewish Lobby was very supportive of the Iraq war.
extremely supportive...
desicively supportive...
Prove it. Link, please.

good question.


in my book.. the Jewish Lobby was very supportive of the Iraq war.
extremely supportive...
desicively supportive...

But Jews vote for Democrats, unless my understanding of demographics is fundamentally flawed.

But Jews vote for Democrats, unless my understanding of demographics is fundamentally flawed.

80% of US Jews always vote Democrat.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/funny/tinfoil-hat.jpg

So that what happened to Uncle Ron.

Am I the only one who don't really gives a rats ass about "Deseprate Housewives"?most females over 15.. do like that show..

how about TOs stunt?.. did you hate that too?

I have no clue what this thread is supposed to be about. What does the ABC site have to do with Jews or neocons?

80% of US Jews always vote Democrat.Prove it.

most females over 15.. do like that show..

how about TOs stunt?.. did you hate that too?

what is TOs stunt?

Prove it.

Ok, but you have to prove that ABC is Jewish owned and operated.

Prove it.

Here you go:

Bush has made small gains among Jews since his first election, but short of what some GOP strategists had envisioned. A staunch supporter of Israel who won the backing of a few prominent Democratic Jews such as former New York City mayor Ed Koch, Bush captured between 22 and 26 percent of the Jewish vote in 2004, based on various exit polling surveys. In 2000, he won 19 percent.

100 minus 19 is 81.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/02/AR2006080201692.html

I have no clue what this thread is supposed to be about. What does the ABC site have to do with Jews or neocons?Like I said

#1 the latest neocon propaganda at ABC makes me wonder.

#2 Jewish Lobby is decisively supportive of the Neocons.. IMO.

Like I said

#1 the latest neocon propaganda at ABC makes me wonder.

#2 Jewish Lobby is decisively supportive of the Neocons.. IMO.

Okay, perhaps I'm missing something. I don't see any evidence that there is neocon propaganda on ABC or that the Jews are in support of the neocons.

Like I said

#1 the latest neocon propaganda at ABC makes me wonder.

#2 Jewish Lobby is decisively supportive of the Neocons.. IMO.

Kool-aid anyone?

Like I said

#1 the latest neocon propaganda at ABC makes me wonder.

#2 Jewish Lobby is decisively supportive of the Neocons.. IMO.

Prove it. You still haven't. Prove the "Jewish lobby" is decisively in favor of neocons.

I've just linked to something that proves that it isn't.

BTW, George Soros is a Jew. How does that fit into your fantasy? He's definitely not in support of neocons.

George Soros, a Hungarian-born Jew who escaped the Holocaust by fleeing to London as a child, is ranked the 28th richest person in the United States (with a fortune valued at $7 billion) by Forbes magazine.

Like I said

#1 the latest neocon propaganda at ABC makes me wonder.

#2 Jewish Lobby is decisively supportive of the Neocons.. IMO.

In your racist, discriminatory, unsupported opinion you mean. You're just as bad as certain people claim DK is.

Here you go:



100 minus 19 is 81.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/02/AR2006080201692.html

I-may-be-wrong-but-I doubt the washingtonpost had cameras inside the voting cubicules. ;)

In your racist, discriminatory, unsupported opinion. my opinion belong to me.

your opinion of my opinion.. is descriminatory and Unsuported. (But I do not care)

You're just as bad as certain people claim DK is.
I am bad.
Life is a beach.

I-may-be-wrong-but-I doubt the washingtonpost had cameras inside the voting cubicules. ;)

Welcome to the wild world of exit polling, and demographics collecting.

I-may-be-wrong-but-I doubt the washingtonpost had cameras inside the voting cubicules. ;)

So, your conspiracy theory requires that all Jews lie to pollsters, lie about who they give their money to, and then go vote Republican and give money to Bush?

Are you saying that George Soros is really a Bush-supporter and a neocon?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

my opinion belong to me.

your opinion of my opinion.. is descriminatory and Unsuported. (But I do not care)


I am bad.
Life is a beach.

I discriminate against racist twits. How is my opinion unsupported? You openly support organizations whose goal is to kill all Jews, you use racist terms like "Jew Crew", and blame any action you don't like on this mythical "Jewish Lobby". Racist, discriminatory, and unsupported.

Welcome to the wild world of exit polling, and demographics collecting."wild" is the correct word indeed.

going AFK
back in 8h+

Welcome to the wild world of exit polling, and demographics collecting.

Yep, those wonderful exit polls.

"wild" is the correct word indeed.

going AFK
back in 8h+

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/funny/ownednuns0sj.jpg

Holy God! No ## at the front of the thread!

AmaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaazing!

Are you saying that George Soros is really a Bush-supporter and a neocon?
if G.Soros is the owner..

the question I am asking is if G.Soros is Jewish.

as for ABC being Pro-Neocon.. you will have to wait for me to come back online.

I discriminate against racist twits. How is my opinion unsupported? You openly support organizations whose goal is to kill all Jews, you use racist terms like "Jew Crew", and blame any action you don't like on this mythical "Jewish Lobby". Racist, discriminatory, and unsupported.

Umm, jew crew was a phrase coined by a pro-isreali poster on these forums, DM I think.

Holy God! No ## at the front of the thread!

AmaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaazing!there is a reason.. I will explain when I come back.
patience.

if G.Soros is the owner..

the question I am asking is if G.Soros is Jewish.

as for ABC being Pro-Neocon.. you will have to wait for me to come back online.
I posted that he's a Hungarian-born Jew.

He's most definitely Jewish. One of the richest Jews in the world.

You're saying that Jews are supportive of neocons, and running a conspiracy.

And I asked if you think that Soros is part of this conspiracy.

good question.


in my book.. the Jewish Lobby was very supportive of the Iraq war.
extremely supportive...
desicively supportive...

What Jewish lobby?

Are you perhaps refering to this?
http://www.edomit.com/edomit_lobby.html

this is the ABC I am talking about http://abc.com (not the other ABCs)

the latest neocon propaganda at ABC makes me wonder.

Please give the anti-semitism a rest

abc is owned by disney

is disney jewish?

abc is owned by disney

is disney jewish?

Ocean thinks it is.

It's a publicly held company. You know, stocks.

this is the ABC I am talking about http://abc.com (not the other ABCs)

the latest neocon propaganda at ABC makes me wonder.

*picks up the phone and calls the men in the white jackets*

Ocean, can you please stop thinking that everything is a jewish conspiracy. It is really making you look like hitler who saw jewish conspiracies where there were none.

abc is owned by disney

is disney jewish?

Ol' Walt actually had a few things to say about them Jews that didn't exactly make it into Bambi...if you know what I mean.

Umm, jew crew was a phrase coined by a pro-isreali poster on these forums, DM I think.

Yeah, talk about misguided…

Supporting Israel with anti-Semitism…

Who needs enemies, with friends like these
:rolleyes:

80% of US Jews always vote Democrat.

Ironic is it not?

what is TOs stunt?

Happened during a Monday night Football game where he did the opening sequence with a white chick from Desperate Housewives.

Of course, the charge of racism was tossed about like Candy and calls of censorship were also running rampant.

Welcome to the wild world of exit polling, and demographics collecting.

Exit Polls should not be trusted.

Yeah, talk about misguided…

Supporting Israel with anti-Semitism…

Who needs enemies, with friends like these
:rolleyes:

What's antisemitic about it?

Exit Polls should not be trusted.

Oh, pah, they can be trusted, you just have to make sure you make use of a proper degree of belief, and not accord them with "word of God" status.

Oh, pah, they can be trusted, you just have to make sure you make use of a proper degree of belief, and not accord them with "word of God" status.

Hence why I do not trust them :D

*picks up the phone and calls the men in the white jackets*

Ocean, can you please stop thinking that everything is a jewish conspiracy. It is really making you look like hitler who saw jewish conspiracies where there were none.

Well, lookee here! I found one of Occean's baby pictures!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/squorn/givemepoland.jpg

:p

Prove it.

Go to a Temple and see for yourself. It's a sad fact, but most Jews are liberal.

Go to a Temple and see for yourself. It's a sad fact, but most Jews are liberal.


And be surrounded by teh evil joos?!?! Occean would never do that. He probably thinks they'd eat him or something. :rolleyes:

What's antisemitic about it?

It is the name...

Equating Jew with (unconditional support for) Israel is portraying Jews in a narrow way. Moreover many in the Jew crew are not even Jewish, and have little to do with Judaism...

Furthermore, note that equating Israel with Judaism is one of the main causes of contemporary anti-Semitism, as is equating large business with Judaism

Ol' Walt actually had a few things to say about them Jews that didn't exactly make it into Bambi...if you know what I mean.

Yup, if I remember right, Walt Disney hired former Nazis to work for him.

Umm, jew crew was a phrase coined by a pro-isreali poster on these forums, DM I think.

IIRC, it was adopted by DM, IDF, etc. after OD started using it as a derogatory term for anyone who supported Isreal.

ABC is owned by The Walt Disney Company.
Currently, the CEO of TWDC is Bob Iger
the rest of the board is as follows:
John E. Bryson
John S. Chen
Judith L. Estrin
Steve Jobs
Fred H. Langhammer
Aylwin B. Lewis
Monica C. Lozano
Robert W. Matschullat
George J. Mitchell
Leo J. O'Donovan, S.J.
John E. Pepper, Jr.
Orin C. Smith

Why would it matter if Jews owned the company? After all, it's the "Zionists" and not the Jews who are supposed to be the bad guy that is oppressing the world and propagandizing for the neoconservative worldview, right?

IIRC, most Jews are fairly liberal Democrats anyway so any Jewish owners probably wouldn't be shilling for Bush.

Oh, now I get it. See when the term "neocon" was thrown around it fooled me, I thought it referred to folks like ... GW Bush, Cheney, PNAC...

but now I see it's really just a Politically Correct euphemism for "The evil Jews who control the world and drink the blood of white christian babies as part of their plot to pollute and destroy our precious bodily fluids."

Good to know.

Why would it matter if Jews owned the company? After all, it's the "Zionists" and not the Jews who are supposed to be the bad guy that is oppressing the world and propagandizing for the neoconservative worldview, right?

IIRC, most Jews are fairly liberal Democrats anyway so any Jewish owners probably wouldn't be shilling for Bush.

To those who are fervently anti-Jew, all Jews are Zionists, though. :rolleyes:

Oh, now I get it. See when the term "neocon" was thrown around it fooled me, I thought it referred to folks like ... GW Bush, Cheney, PNAC...

but now I see it's really just a Politically Correct euphemism for "The evil Jews who control the world and drink the blood of white christian babies as part of their plot to pollute and destroy our precious bodily fluids."

Good to know.

The latter is the more common meaning, as a racial slur.

IIRC, it was adopted by DM, IDF, etc. after OD started using it as a derogatory term for anyone who supported Isreal.???

what???
Its now my fault.. If the Crew was created. ??

I am quikly just jumping-in to check these one out..
I will reply to the others later..

carry on.. with the anti-OD rethoric.. :cool:

Its all the jews fault. They are responsible for all the wars in the world. I conspricacy I tell ya! Go see my movie, Christ Passion.

Carry on.. with the anti-Jewish rhetoric..

Also, learn that it should always be three periods, ergo:

Carry on... With the anti-Jewish rhetoric...

Its all the jews fault. They are responsible for all the wars in the world. I conspricacy I tell ya! Go see my movie, Christ Passion.

Mr. Gibson, please blow into this tube...

Ol' Walt actually had a few things to say about them Jews that didn't exactly make it into Bambi...if you know what I mean.
Well. Do tell.....

Ocean thinks it is.

It's a publicly held company. You know, stocks.

HEY! How do we know you are not Jewish!

Mr. Gibson, please blow into this tube...

ah, No! Your a jew arent you! You only want me to blow in it to steal my air and make a jew baby with my DNA! conspricacy!

ah, No! Your a jew arent you! You only want me to blow in it to steal my air and make a jew baby with my DNA! conspricacy!

If you punch him in the nose, he'll spray out Jew gold!

Everything said by Ocean Drive has been true, if you take out the Jewish part ;)

Yup, if I remember right, Walt Disney hired former Nazis to work for him.

He did. Wernher Von Braun was hired as an expert for the "World of Tomorrow" There was another fellow who helped design rides.

He also refused to meet Leni Riefenstahl who made the films Olympia and Triumph of the Will.

So it's not consistent with what is implied.

He did. Wernher Von Braun was hired as an expert for the "World of Tomorrow" There was another fellow who helped design rides.

He also refused to meet Leni Riefenstahl who made the films Olympia and Triumph of the Will.

So it's not consistent with what is implied.

I do remember reading somewhere that Walts' politics were a bit on the far-right side and that there was nazi symbology in his earlier films but I can't remember where. Anyone here know or is this just tin-foil hat time?

Well. Do tell.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney:_Hollywood's_Dark_Prince

While the book is a bit tabloidish, from what I've heard, there are parts that are true.

He did. Wernher Von Braun was hired as an expert for the "World of Tomorrow" There was another fellow who helped design rides.

He also refused to meet Leni Riefenstahl who made the films Olympia and Triumph of the Will.

So it's not consistent with what is implied.

I've heard it claimed by certain people that Leni Riefenstahl was a Jew, maybe that helps explain something.

I do remember reading somewhere that Walts' politics were a bit on the far-right side and that there was nazi symbology in his earlier films but I can't remember where. Anyone here know or is this just tin-foil hat time?

Disney did a lot of propaganda animation during the war, with Donald going after Hitler and stuff. There were plenty of swastikas appearing in those I think. Could that be what you were thinking of?

Disney did a lot of propaganda animation during the war, with Donald going after Hitler and stuff. There were plenty of swastikas appearing in those I think.

I was thinkning more along the lines of his motion pictures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney:_Hollywood's_Dark_Prince

While the book is a bit tabloidish, from what I've heard, there are parts that are true.

Oh yea that book. It's VERY tabloidish. I remember taking a scan of it and found a few things on snopes.

I was thinking more along the lines of his motion pictures.

Of the 7 made before and during WWII, I've seen 6 of them, and don't remember anything like that. I suppose it could have been so subtle it wouldn;'t have been noticed, but that would kinda defeat the purpose, wouldn't it?

I would think for there to be something subtly added to the films, not only would Walt himself have to condoned it, but the 9 Old Men, his main staff of animators, would have had to been in on it as well. I cannot for the life of me see all of them as closet nazis'.

I suspect that it is an urban myth, like alot of the things said about Disney.

Of the 7 made before and during WWII, I've seen 6 of them, and don't remember anything like that. I suppose it could have been so subtle it wouldn;'t have been noticed, but that would kinda defeat the purpose, wouldn't it?

I would think for there to be something subtly added to the films, not only would Walt himself have to condoned it, but the 9 Old Men, his main staff of animators, would have had to been in on it as well. I cannot for the life of me see all of them as closet nazis'.

I suspect that it is an urban myth, like alot of the things said about Disney.

Arghhh, just remembered where I read it, it was in the Da Vinci code. Ignore everything I posted on the subject...*runs off the clean out eyes with bleach again in penance for reading such dross*

WTF do Jews have to do with anything?

well it's like this.

It's completely normal for different ethnic/religious groups to gravitate to the same industry. Where I live it seems the Ceramic tile industry is dominated by Italians and Portugese. The film and media industry in the USA appears to have a high % of Jews in it, higher than it should if you look at their total numbers in the USA, they do dominate the media industry in the US. This isn't a conspiracy it's normal, family members stay in the business, hire others of the religion or nationality that they know.

Now if someone is jewish they are naturally going to side with Israel and any policy that favours that country. If you're running a media outlet of some type you are going to push your point of view and your company will reflect your interests. Because there is such a high percentage of Jews in the american media opinions expressed about Israel will so a pro Israel bias swaying public opinion and government poilcy. European media have a much smaller if not very little Jewish influence in their media, public opinion in europe toward the Israel/Plestinian issue is very different than the average americans.

If you look at the Whitehouse staff that advises the President I believe(this may have changed) there were 35 Jews in prominent positions and no muslims that I could find in my searches. So when discussing issues of the middle east and shaping foreign policy which side is going to get the most sympathy? There was even one who at one time worked at the Pentagon in regards to foreign policy can't remember his title(Wolfowitz? Pearl?) who was also on the board of directors for a Jerusalem newspaper. To me an obvious conflict of interests who side is he going to take, there is no way that he can be unbiased.


Ok, now you call anti-semitic

Arghhh, just remembered where I read it, it was in the Da Vinci code. Ignore everything I posted on the subject...*runs off the clean out eyes with bleach again in penance for reading such dross*

CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG.

well it's like this.



Ok, now you call anti-semitic

So, the question is still begged, WTF do Jews have to do w/ ABC and where is this alledged "Jewish Lobby" conspiracy?

this is the ABC I am talking about http://abc.com (not the other ABCs)

the latest neocon propaganda at ABC makes me wonder.


What the fuck does that matter? Get a fucking grip.

this is the ABC I am talking about http://abc.com (not the other ABCs)

the latest neocon propaganda at ABC makes me wonder.

If this is about "The Path to 9/11" it makes Bush look like a complete bafoon, too.

well it's like this.

It's completely normal for different ethnic/religious groups to gravitate to the same industry. Where I live it seems the Ceramic tile industry is dominated by Italians and Portugese. The film and media industry in the USA appears to have a high % of Jews in it, higher than it should if you look at their total numbers in the USA, they do dominate the media industry in the US. This isn't a conspiracy it's normal, family members stay in the business, hire others of the religion or nationality that they know.

Now if someone is jewish they are naturally going to side with Israel and any policy that favours that country. If you're running a media outlet of some type you are going to push your point of view and your company will reflect your interests. Because there is such a high percentage of Jews in the american media opinions expressed about Israel will so a pro Israel bias swaying public opinion and government poilcy. European media have a much smaller if not very little Jewish influence in their media, public opinion in europe toward the Israel/Plestinian issue is very different than the average americans.

If you look at the Whitehouse staff that advises the President I believe(this may have changed) there were 35 Jews in prominent positions and no muslims that I could find in my searches. So when discussing issues of the middle east and shaping foreign policy which side is going to get the most sympathy? There was even one who at one time worked at the Pentagon in regards to foreign policy can't remember his title(Wolfowitz? Pearl?) who was also on the board of directors for a Jerusalem newspaper. To me an obvious conflict of interests who side is he going to take, there is no way that he can be unbiased.


Ok, now you call anti-semitic

As it stands the thread is about the ABC documentary specifically, and Occeandrive started out by bringing up Jews. ABC is a subsidiary of Disney, and looking at the rolls at both firms, it doesn't seem to be that either firm is dominated by Jews.

Not only that, but this documentary has nothing directly to do with the Israel-Palestine Conflict, instead it has to do with the conflict dealing with Al Qaeda, and how the US government handled that prior to the September 11 terrorist attacks.

So, while I'm not disputing that there is indeed a larger number of Jews in the US media, I'm asking WTF do Jews have to do with this incident in particular.

well it's like this.

It's completely normal for different ethnic/religious groups to gravitate to the same industry. Where I live it seems the Ceramic tile industry is dominated by Italians and Portugese. The film and media industry in the USA appears to have a high % of Jews in it, higher than it should if you look at their total numbers in the USA, they do dominate the media industry in the US. This isn't a conspiracy it's normal, family members stay in the business, hire others of the religion or nationality that they know. add in the fact that Jews were migrating to American en masse during the silent film era, and it was easy to get a job there because no one could hear you talk, and so accent didn't matter.

Now if someone is jewish they are naturally going to side with Israel and any policy that favours that country.I'll just going to stop here and say that this premise is wrong. Surprisingly, Jews can have opinions of their own on any given nation, including Israel, be those positive or negative. Being Jewish is no way means I have to support, or even like, Israel.
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I agree Sarkhaan. Both sides of my family are Jewish. I also have quite a few Jewish friends, and you know what? We debate about Israel all the time. Do I support its right to exist? Yes. But I, and most of the Jews I know, are just as quick to protest when Israel does something we don't like. Also, as numerous people have explained before on countless threads, Jews are not only heavily neocon but in fact tend to be very liberal. Of all the Jews I know, not one is a conservative (and I'm not just talking about people from here in New York. Many of them live or come from more conservative parts of the country.) I'm tired of people like Oceandrive who think they can instantly categorize me based on my religion (and I'm not even religious. Pfft.)

Look at me as a person, not a stereotype.

I agree Sarkhaan. Both sides of my family are Jewish. I also have quite a few Jewish friends, and you know what? We debate about Israel all the time. Do I support its right to exist? Yes. But I, and most of the Jews I know, are just as quick to protest when Israel does something we don't like. Also, as numerous people have explained before on countless threads, Jews are not only heavily neocon but in fact tend to be very liberal. Of all the Jews I know, not one is a conservative (and I'm not just talking about people from here in New York. Many of them live or come from more conservative parts of the country.) I'm tired of people like Oceandrive who think they can instantly categorize me based on my religion (and I'm not even religious. Pfft.)

Look at me as a person, not a stereotype.

You're just trying to distract us from your membership in the conspiracy and wanting your pound of flesh.

So that what happened to Uncle Ron.

No. Uncle Ron (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/farenhype_911/) took his had off. That's why he's pro-Bush now.

I agree Sarkhaan. Both sides of my family are Jewish. I also have quite a few Jewish friends, and you know what? We debate about Israel all the time. Do I support its right to exist? Yes. But I, and most of the Jews I know, are just as quick to protest when Israel does something we don't like. Also, as numerous people have explained before on countless threads, Jews are not only heavily neocon but in fact tend to be very liberal. Of all the Jews I know, not one is a conservative (and I'm not just talking about people from here in New York. Many of them live or come from more conservative parts of the country.) I'm tired of people like Oceandrive who think they can instantly categorize me based on my religion (and I'm not even religious. Pfft.)

Look at me as a person, not a stereotype.
So wait...you're telling me your dad is a doctor? Whats that? you're going to be a lawyer? AND you eat chinese food every december 25?! (okay, so that one is true...)
mmm...stereotypes;)

I support Israels right to exist like I do every other nation. I don't, however, support many of their actions, and protest them quite vocally.

By the way, I lost my membership card to The Jewish Conspiracy...do you know where I can get a new one?

Onoz teh evil joos.

This is ludicrous, really. Jews are not all evil baddies. Just like everyone else.

So wait...you're telling me your dad is a doctor? Whats that? you're going to be a lawyer? AND you eat chinese food every december 25?! (okay, so that one is true...)
mmm...stereotypes;)

I support Israels right to exist like I do every other nation. I don't, however, support many of their actions, and protest them quite vocally.

By the way, I lost my membership card to The Jewish Conspiracy...do you know where I can get a new one?

is eating Chinese food on Christmas a Jewish thing? because my family does that, it's been passed down as a tradition for like 30 years.

So wait...you're telling me your dad is a doctor? Whats that? you're going to be a lawyer? AND you eat chinese food every december 25?! (okay, so that one is true...)
mmm...stereotypes;)

I support Israels right to exist like I do every other nation. I don't, however, support many of their actions, and protest them quite vocally.

By the way, I lost my membership card to The Jewish Conspiracy...do you know where I can get a new one?

Actually, my dad AND my mom are doctors. Seriously.
*Hangs head in shame, goes back to running the world's media*

is eating Chinese food on Christmas a Jewish thing? because my family does that, it's been passed down as a tradition for like 30 years.

Yes. It stems from the era when the lower east side of Manhattan had a large Jewish population. On Christmas (and Sundays) in those days, most restaurants were closed. Chinatown, which was close by and served enough delicious vegitarian dishes to satsify those who kept kosher, became the logical choice.

As a New York Jew, I have to admit I've never had chinese food on christmas. I did have sushi once though.:cool:

Actually, my dad AND my mom are doctors. Seriously.
*Hangs head in shame, goes back to running the world's media*

haha...no worries...my dad is a doctor, mom and aunt are nurses (but both christian), and uncle is a dentist.

To those who are fervently anti-Jew, all Jews are Zionists, though. :rolleyes:

Bingo. Many anti-Semitic statements can be covered up by using "Zionist" when you really mean "Jewish"...just look at Ahmadinejad's ranting. That's not to imply that OD is anti-Jew but that's how these threads come across.

It's like people who say "No offense" or "In all due respect" before insulting you...you may try and cover it up using other words, but it still comes through in the end.

He did. Wernher Von Braun was hired as an expert for the "World of Tomorrow" Von Braun was never a hard core member of the Nazi party, (In order to get anywhere in the higher ups you'd have to be a member)
He also, (not by choice) made an officer of the SS.
Heinrich Himmler personally awarded an honorary SS rank to von Braun in May 1940, which von Braun accepted only after he and his colleagues agreed that to turn it down might risk Himmler's wrath. From "Power to Explore" (http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/vonbraun/excerpts.html)


But despite his shady past he was the foremost in knowledge of the Jet engine being both one of the inventors of both the V1 and V2 rockets, as well as the German Jet engine. That would be why Walt would have hired him, Braun was the biggest expert in America on Rockets and Jet engines. The "Future" of Flight.

That's not to imply that OD is anti-Jew but that's how these threads come across.

No. That is what these threads are.

Yeah, talk about misguided…

Supporting Israel with anti-Semitism…

Who needs enemies, with friends like these
:rolleyes:

Ahahahahaha

You know, there are some over-sensitive shmucks in this world.

Seriously, is everything racist? Or do people like you just need something to bitch about? Or is it that you just aren't old enough yet to realize that racial slurs can be used without hostile intent, and without offense being taken. I suggest a good dose of the real world, and then go hang out with a bunch of military boys of mixed race. Every possible slur will be used at least once, and no one will get mad. Only on general is everything used to gain a hypothetical "point" on another person for some perceived slight to some minority etc. And it's mainly done by the douchebags who will flame me for this post.

No. That is what these threads are.

Agreed...he just hides behind it with ";)" ":p" ":)" smileys....:rolleyes:

OcceanDrive, just out of curiosity, what religion are you?

OcceanDrive, just out of curiosity, what religion are you?

Jidahonjudaismish?

add in the fact that Jews were migrating to American en masse during the silent film era, and it was easy to get a job there because no one could hear you talk, and so accent didn't matter.

I'll just going to stop here and say that this premise is wrong. Surprisingly, Jews can have opinions of their own on any given nation, including Israel, be those positive or negative. Being Jewish is no way means I have to support, or even like, Israel.
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first paragraph-abosolutely-it seems every greek immigrant in my city ends up working in a greek pizza house.

2nd point- I know there are jews who do not support Israel or even think Israel should exsit, but with no evidence to support me I 'd still wager that the overwheming majority support Israel.

No. That is what these threads are.

I always phrase my words carefully. Those who read between the lines can usually find out what I really mean pretty quickly. ;)

As it stands the thread is about the ABC documentary specifically, and Occeandrive started out by bringing up Jews. ABC is a subsidiary of Disney, and looking at the rolls at both firms, it doesn't seem to be that either firm is dominated by Jews.

Not only that, but this documentary has nothing directly to do with the Israel-Palestine Conflict, instead it has to do with the conflict dealing with Al Qaeda, and how the US government handled that prior to the September 11 terrorist attacks.

So, while I'm not disputing that there is indeed a larger number of Jews in the US media, I'm asking WTF do Jews have to do with this incident in particular.well if understand the inference correctly that a Jewish owned or run network is running a documentary favourable to neo-cons? is that not correct?

everything is contected to the Israel-Palestine conflict, you cannot seperate Al Qaeda from that conflict. Al Queda, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, 9/11-they're all connected(ask Osama) not understanding that underlines the failure of US foreign policy.

I can relate this to another Media network in Canada-The Global empire, TV and Newspapers. The owner founder Izzy Asper a jew forebade the use of the word militants to describe terrorist/freedom fighters. All his Newspapers and TV stations were directed to use only the word Terrorist(what happens if you defy the boss?). He was very annoyed that the government owned CBC preferred the word Militants, which was unbiased did not pass judgement, neither terrorist or freedom fighter. So yes an owner whether Jewish, Islamic, Nazi, Christian Fund, can influence the programing on their media outlet and sway it to their beliefs. If that wasn't the point of the original post I apologize.

2nd point- I know there are jews who do not support Israel or even think Israel should exsit, but with no evidence to support me I 'd still wager that the overwheming majority support Israel.

With no evidence to support me I'd wager that all Jews are robots from the Pluto formerly known as Planet.

Von Braun was never a hard core member of the Nazi party, (In order to get anywhere in the higher ups you'd have to be a member)
He also, (not by choice) made an officer of the SS.


I thought it was obvious. ;)

ABC is owned by The Walt Disney Company.
Currently, the CEO of TWDC is Bob Iger
the rest of the board is as follows:
John E. Bryson
John S. Chen
Judith L. Estrin
Steve Jobs
Fred H. Langhammer
Aylwin B. Lewis
Monica C. Lozano
Robert W. Matschullat
George J. Mitchell
Leo J. O'Donovan, S.J.
John E. Pepper, Jr.
Orin C. Smith

I'll bet that O'Donovan Smith, and Chen are the evil Jews that Occean Drive is blatantly frightened of. err concerned about...errr whatever it is he is attempting to communicate

So once again we have a thread of OD being a bigotted douche and then he runs and doesn't post. How typical of him.

So once again we have a thread of OD being a bigotted douche and then he runs and doesn't post. How typical of him.

Well its because he got his ass OWNED, BITCH!...in the first 2 or so pages....duh!:p

this is the ABC I am talking about http://abc.com (not the other ABCs)

the latest neocon propaganda at ABC makes me wonder.


What is your problem with Jews anyway ?

you get a bad cut on your wiggy ? They snip too much off ?


Is your name like Adolph and your trying to live up / down to it ?

I just want to know why he hasn't mentioned that the Towers were destroyed on the orders of our Zionist Overlords?

I just want to know why he hasn't mentioned that the Towers were destroyed on the orders of our Skull and Bones Zionist Freemason Overlords?

You forgot some of the greater abusurdities.

Damn, missed a few. Thanks Andaluciae.

You forgot some of the (Skull and Bones)ohhh.. I remember that..

good comebak ;)

ohhh.. I remember that..

good comebak ;)

You really are a wuss aren't you. You don't even have the balls to defend yourself when you act like an ass.

I just want to know why he hasn't mentioned that the Towers were destroyed on the orders of our Zionist Overlords?

I thought the towers were destroyed by Gandalf, the Ents and Frodo.

I thought the towers were destroyed by Gandalf, the Ents and Frodo.

I think Isengard was left standing. ;)

You really are a wuss aren't you. You don't even have the balls to defend yourself when you act like an ass.


I suspect the title; Inept Troll would be more appropriate.

But don't go by me.

You don't even have the balls ...If you had ever learned anything @ NSG.. it would be that I do have "the" balls... ;)

I thought the towers were destroyed by Gandalf, the Ents and Frodo.:D

pwned.

:D

pwned.

I am afraid to ask, but how was ANYONE pwned by that post?

I am afraid to ask, but how was ANYONE pwned by that post?please.. dont be afraid to ask me questions.. if I find the time I will answer..
(if you ask politely.. I shall find the time.. sooner or later)

what I meant to say in this case is.. "the thread" was pwned.. "the conversation" was pwned.. (not a poster in particular)

his reply "pwned"..

It was a great reply.. dont you agree?

Meh, it's an old joke, so IMO, nothing special. Hardly up to the level of thread pwnage.

Meh, it's an old joke, so IMO, nothing special. Hardly up to the level of thread pwnage.you are probably rigth.

What's antisemitic about it?
Holding Jews responsible for the actions of Israel is a defined form of anti-Semitism, whether you agree with Israel's actions or not.

Go to a Temple and see for yourself. It's a sad fact, but most Jews are liberal.
Why is that sad?