NationStates Jolt Archive

This may seem overly redundant, because that's why we're all here: we made our own nations.

But, it's difficult to see how your nation would handle certain issues, because not all the issues come up. So, I thought it might be a good to give some of the most controversial issues (and some not so controversial) and to say what our nation's stances on them would be.

The examples in the categories are my answers. :)

Government type: Christian republican theocracy (not the Republican Party)

Homosexual rights: No marriage, no civil unions

Abortion: Only if the fertilized egg has implanted in the fallopian tube, and the doctors had better be trying to save that baby!

Taxes: low, low, low

Military: Sadly, we need one, and it needs to be strong

Unions: Ban 'em!

Marijuana: If legal, it would be only for medical purposes (doctor's prescription)

Religious displays: As long as your clothed and not sacrificing anyone, it's okay

Religion in politics: All national officials must be elders, ministers, or something similar in a Christian church

UN: actively work against

That's all I've thought of so far. Feel free to make suggestions and I'll add them.

Dude your nation would suck. Mine would be pretty much like my NS nation. Great civil liberties. You want to gay marry? Fine, none of anyone else's business. You want to do drugs? OK, just don't let it interfere with your job or your ability to obey the laws or there will be consequences. Fairly low taxes, strong defense, strong funding for education.

I manage Cluichstan exactly as I would were I running a real nation. Oh, look! Superb civil rights and political freedoms, along with an all-consuming economy. Life in Cluichstan is goooooood. :cool:

I manage Cluichstan exactly as I would were I running a real nation. Oh, look! Superb civil rights and political freedoms, along with an all-consuming economy. Life in Cluichstan is goooooood. :cool:

See, how do you mean? All your nation's page says is that you have good civil rights (or so you say). Expound upon that.

Government type: Small, efficient, secular, atheist, capitalist, democratic republic.

Marriage: No government sactioned marriage. Civil unions for any two consenting adults.

Abortion: At any time during pregnancy.

Taxes: A system of taxes scaled to income and wealth.

Military: Ideally, disbanded. Practically, small, well-trained force used primarily as peacekeepers.

Unions: The government won't regulate them.

Public religious displays: Banned, universally. Practise at home or in a temple.

Religious influence in politics: Banned, universally. It would be illegal for a politician to use their religion as a platform.

UN membership: Support (minus security council).

EU membership: Support integration.

Drugs: All drugs legal, and subject to taxation and government regulated quality control.

Education: Free public education until age of sixteen; government grants for low income families to pursue degree level education.

Basically, my nation would be comprised of this golden rule: it's legal, as long as it doesn't harm anyone else without their consent.

Couldn't be more opposite ;)

Government type: socialist participative democracy; mix of Soviet-style and parlementary democracy, with strong control of the population on representatives

Homosexual rights: Marriage and exactly the same rights than heterosexuals

Abortion: Allowed and free, until a time limit that has to be decided; but alternative solutions (before: contraception and after: adoption, ...) encouraged.

Taxes: pointless, since the economy would be socialised ;) but else, high and very progressive

Military: inexsitant as we know it. A civilian, voluntary National Guard would ensure the defense of the nation. A strong, well equiped, but not armed emergency force would be able to handle emergency situations (like natural disaster) both inside and outside of the country.

Unions: encouraged and participating in the decision process of "companies" (the exact power depending on the kind of "companies").

Marijuana: legal, but with strong prevention policies.

Religious displays: as long as it's not too offensive, allowed for non-officials. Representant of the "governement" (especially teachers) must not show their religious believes while in service.

Religion in politics: religious parties are tolerated, but the state itself is independant from all religions.

UN: strong support for a democratic, effective, and fair UN, with no veto rights

Education: Totally free public education for everyone, mandatory until 18. Education all life long (either part time or by phases) strongly recommanded.

Healthcare: totally free healthcare, drug patents not recognized, all hospitals and doctors paid directly by the community.

See, how do you mean? All your nation's page says is that you have good civil rights (or so you say). Expound upon that.

When issues come up, I let people pretty much do whatever the hell they want, as long as it's not going to infringe upon others' liberties. Trouble is, and I learned this after playing for a few months, that issues are a little tricky. If you don't read them very carefully, they can have unintended consequences. Also, the game's a bit slanted to the left, so what I might consider a perfectly libertarian policy, for instance, the game reads it as a bad thing. Thus, my civil rights often flip-flop between Very Good and Superb.

Cripes, I feel like I'm posting in the Gameplay forum...

I feel like I'm posting in the Gameplay forum...

Well, my apologies: I didn't think of that. I haven't explored the other forums, so I just posted on this one. If this thread belongs on a different forum, my mistake.

Well, my apologies: I didn't think of that. I haven't explored the other forums, so I just posted on this one. If this thread belongs on a different forum, my mistake.


No, that's not what I meant. I was merely commenting on how I'd gone off in my post there. This thread is "General" enough to me (though I'm not a mod, despite any suggestions to the contrary in my sig ;) ). It was my response that seemed like a Gameplay post.

Government type: Social democracy, very secular. No governing body can endorse or condemn any religion.

Homosexual rights: Same as heterosexuals. I would not recognize any marriage or civil unions between anyone.

Abortion: Allowed but seen as a last resort. A strong sex education program would seek to minimize abortions. Anything to save the mother's life is allowed.

Taxes: Progressive, and all public expenditures would be made public information.

Military: Large and in charge, but mainly used to help advance technology and enlistees mainly join because of a GI Bill-type deal.

Unions: Encouraged. Someone has to counteract big business.

Marijuana: Legal, but strictly regulated.

Religious displays: OK by private individuals and on private land. Government officials can practice religion only in specific circumstances. Also, all national laws must be obeyed.

Religion in politics: No one may simultaneously hold a position in religion and politics. Also, no state religion is recognized. Basically, like the First Amendment if we did it right.

UN: Work with it. Not for it.

Homosexual rights: Treated the same as anyone else. All legal marriages would be renamed civil unions - even heterosexual ones. The term "marriage" would be left to the religious to apply as they saw fit, but have no legal significance.

Taxes: Enough to fund important government projects, but low enough to allow private enterprise to function effectively.

Drugs: No penalty for taking them, possibly illegal to distribute harder ones.

Education: The focus of education would be to ensure that people are as educated as possible. Education would be a high priority and all students would be able to reach their maximum potential. Sex education would be compulsory. No religion in schools.

Military: The nation would be capable of self-defense.

International Relations: The nation would avoid war with other nations. Attempts to aid other countries in times of poverty, natural disaster may be made, but not simply by handing over money.

Law Enforcement: Rehabilitation would be a focus. Prisoners would be kept away from each other where possible so as to avoid bad influence from each other and to prevent a "convicts versus guards" attitude. The point of rehabilitation would be to teach criminals how to behave in the real world, not to get them used to prison life.

Religion: Permitted, but the government would be strictly secular.

Government type: Federal Republic, with an Independent Executive

Homosexual rights: Civil Unions

Abortion: State-by-state

Taxes: As low as is possible to keep the government from falling into a gigantic hole of debt.

Welfare: Things like FDIC, short term financial aid for those in unavoidable fiscal stress, federal support for low income college students. Very minimal.

Military: Competent, professional force, equipped with the best equipment that it would be feasable to purchase. Pursuit of a national Nuclear Weapons Program would be involved.

Unions: Would be treated as a corporation under the law.

Healthcare: Total privatization, except for Veterans Affairs.

Marijuana: Legal

Education: K-12 Guaranteed Public Education

Religious displays: May not inflict harm on involuntary subjects.

Religion in politics: Strict separation of church and state.

UN: General Assembly Member, UN Ambassador must be drunk 23% of the time.

Pretty much like my own nation.Hey,it's my country...not like I'm going to run it into the ground.

Government type: A centralized benevolent socialist republic,with elections for civil and provinicial positions.National elections are held elections held every four years or when a popular vote of impeachment or lack of confidence is called for by parliament.

Marriage: Marriage is a civil union between any two consenting adults.Polygamy is allowed,but current spouses must agree to new marriage.

Abortion: Allowed for all extraordinary cases.Normal abortions must be paid for in tax,getting more expensive with time, espically for late in pregnancy.

Taxes: A system of taxes scaled to income and wealth.Rather high,but that's what you get with socialism.Spent on universal health care,a good public education system,a bit in social welfare and the rest in the military and police.

Military: A fairly-sized well-trained force used primarily as peacekeepers and patrolling-defending the borders.

Unions: Allowed and government has no hand in them.

Public religious displays: Allowed,so long as it harms(physically) no-one except yourself.

Religious influence in politics: Completely banned.It is a secular country.

UN membership: Yes.If only for a facade's sake.

Drugs: All drugs legal.However,drug addicts are not allowed to join military or run for any position in government.Addiction is also not counted as a disease,and is not support by the government universal medical care.However,therapy to get rid of addiction is supported in the goverment medical care fund.

Education: Free public education until age of 18,but high school not compulsory.Government sponsors promising students for higher education.

Government type: Socialist republic

Gay Marriage: fine by me

Abortion: legal before the 19th week of pregnancy

Taxes: high to fund socialised programs: nationalised industries (especially infrastructure like water, gas, electricity, broadband), education govt priority, welfare, NHS, etc.
no inheritance (100% tax on inheritance) and no weasaling around it by the rich - if you took the money of my citizens, you give your share back when you die whatever country you may live in.

Military: small but highly trained. defensive strategies and purposes only.

Unions: for but against militantism

Public religious displays: fine

Religious influence in politics: none. religion may not influence politics.

UN membership: support and work to strengthen

EU membership: support further integration

Marijuana: legal from licenced premesis (a la booze) and taxed. possession ok but sale (by non-licenced peeps) very much illegal. regulation of quality and safety.

Education: government priority. no private schools - all such schools are to be nationalised. insistance on uniformity of quality of education accross country to give equality of opportunity for all. more parental involvement in schooling and schooling of parents in parenting (importance of encoraging schoolwork etc)

Government type: Libertarian but may change over to Monarchy

Homosexual rights: Gay marriage is allowed

Abortion: It Violates the country's consitution, so thereforth unconsitutional

Taxes: Government doesn't subsizied anything and keep out of the Private Sector (low taxes)

Military: Strong

Unions: Up to the company

Marijuana: Legal, but it cannot infear with your work or cause you to harm others.

Religious displays: Government cannot display any religious symbol on government property

Religion in politics: Same as Religious Displays

UN: Not a part of

We mostly spend our money on Militatry, and Police. Although we may branch out into education.

Government type: Libertarian (albeit slightly corrupt)

Homosexual rights: Sure, whatever.

Abortion: Gross, but not illegal

Taxes: Nil or near nil

Military: HELL YEAH! I mean we've got a fuckin' Death Star (http://z11.invisionfree.com/Antarctic_Oasis/index.php?showtopic=142), man!

Unions: Screw unions.

Marijuana: Sure, whatever.

Religious displays: Only those that represent the Great Cluich (that'd be me)

Religion in politics: The only recognised religion is Cluichism (i.e., worship of me)

UN: My main nation got booted from the UN for being too silly, but I created a nation called Cluichstani UN Mission to represent my main nation. I'm very active.

Government style: slightly authoritarian, free market, democracy.

Taxes: moderate, gauged to person's income, used primarily on education and healthcare

Homosexual rights: no marriage, civil unions acceptable, able to adopt children as any hetero couple could.

Religious display: anytime anywhere as long as it doesn't violate another person's rights or public decency laws

Religion in government: minimal, for the most part secular, however heads of state are allowed to express religious beliefs/ pray in public.

Nudity laws: rather strict, no one may show skin in between the middle thighs and waist, women required to wear shirts or some other chest-covering, men encouraged to do the same.

military: preferably none to minimal, hopefully uses U.N. neutrality laws to insure against international aggression. nat. defense force used for situations where martial law is needed.

Abortion: not after 2nd trimester, unless mother's life is threatened, or in cases of rape/ incest, contraception/abstinance encouraged.

Healthcare: if incapable of paying, a person will receive financial aid. Otherwise, cough up

judicial/penal system: gauged towards rehablitation, along with adequate punishment.

Marjuana and other drugs: banned possession, use, or sale of cannabis illegal

Unions: fine, as long as within legal boundries(no beating up/intimidating non-union laborers)

privacy laws: a person's home is their sanctuary there will be no surveillance within a person's living space. However, Public areas such as steets or parks are subject to surveillance by police or gov't agencies.

Criticism/suggestions welcome...

The only major humanitarian crisis that would occur in my own nation would be when I administered a test in secret that would determine who was stupid and who wasn't, and I promptly killed the stupid people.

Government type: Libertarian (albeit slightly corrupt)

Homosexual rights: Sure, whatever.

Abortion: Gross, but not illegal

Taxes: Nil or near nil

Military: HELL YEAH! I mean we've got a fuckin' Death Star (http://z11.invisionfree.com/Antarctic_Oasis/index.php?showtopic=142), man!

Unions: Screw unions.

Marijuana: Sure, whatever.

Religious displays: Only those that represent the Great Cluich (that'd be me)

Religion in politics: The only recognised religion is Cluichism (i.e., worship of me)

UN: My main nation got booted from the UN for being too silly, but I created a nation called Cluichstani UN Mission to represent my main nation. I'm very active.
This is for an actual real world nation, rather than your NS one. Pretty much no NS nation would work in real life.

This is for an actual real world nation, rather than your NS one. Pretty much no NS nation would work in real life.

But that's how I run my NS nation and how I would run a real nation.

But that's how I run my NS nation and how I would run a real nation.

for some reason i doubt they would elect someone who's campaign platform was "i am god, worship me"

for some reason i doubt they would elect someone who's campaign platform was "i am god, worship me"

Who said anything about elections? :p

Who said anything about elections? :p

ah, thats where good ol' america comes in, world police force ._.

ah, thats where good ol' america comes in, world police force ._.

:rolleyes:

Dude your nation would suck. Mine would be pretty much like my NS nation. Great civil liberties. You want to gay marry? Fine, none of anyone else's business. You want to do drugs? OK, just don't let it interfere with your job or your ability to obey the laws or there will be consequences. Fairly low taxes, strong defense, strong funding for education.

Pretty close here.

Basic principals:
Your right to swing your fist stops where my nose starts.



Government style: mixed representitive democratic federal republic, with representation based on a mixed voting system - nationally elected
strictly exclusive locally geographic single-member plurality districts with overlapping nationally elected proportional single transferable vote districts, and regional/state representatives. Also a mix of terms of service - short (2-3 years), medium (4-6 years), and long (8+ years)

The judiciary would be mixed elected, selected, and appointed.

Taxes: user fees, sales taxes, and other non-income based taxes. Absolutely no loopholes or exclusions.

military: highly variable, dependig on the geo-politics of where you put this state and other similar factors, but for the most part this will be one of the main concerns

judicial/penal system: the primary crimes are: illicit initiation of force, fraud, and breaking contracts. The people have great freedoms, but if you break the law you'll wish to hell you hadn't. The penal system is aimed primaril;y at warehousing those who demonstrably cannot be trusted to exist in civil society, with education and rehab available. Prisoners wuill be expected to be productive.

Drugs: anything's allowed. Educate on safe uasage and the dangers of abuse. Crimes commited under the iunfluance are treated as aggrivated.

Weaponry: Any man-portable non-WMD is allowed. Certain weapons may be restricted to liscensees. Licencees who pass identical qualifing exams as military personnel are considered shall issue. Illicit usage is considered a capital crime.

Education: privatised but subsidized via vouchers.

Religion: no state support whatsoever. No useage of state facilities. Otherwise fine.

Marriage: minimal state recoignition - a particular form of contract, granting no special privilages from the government. Any adult able to give consentr may enter a marriage contract.

Unions: a form of enterprise, subject to the lame exact laws as businesses.

Business: corporations not allowed. Business owners bear personal responsibility for debts and other actions of the company. "corporate" homocide laws to be enacted.

Healthcare: medical professionals have a responsibility to save the lives of those who are in immediate danger, and no more. Prevention of public health risks.

UN: neutral non-member

Foreign policy: no foreign aid, no entangling alliances, strict neutrality, no tariffs or other other economic restrictions, no intervention except in response to clear and present threats

Government type: Representative democracy

Homosexual rights: Equal rights for homosexual and heterosexual couples

Abortion: Whenever the mother wishes

Taxes: High enough to allow for free healthcare and education

Military: Purely for defensive purposes and natural disasters

Unions: Legal

Marijuana: Subject to same restrictions as alcohol

Religious displays: Legal only at home or in a temple

Religion in politics: All officials and members of the government are forbidden from practising any form of religion.

UN: Support in every way possible

Government type: Direct democracy (Or at least as much as possible), with citizens actually envolved in the drafting and ratification of laws, possibly through a forum style system, and referenda, and an executive council elected for a 1 year term for budgetary affairs and executive duties by a combined STV?Condorcet method.

Homosexual rights: Identical to hetrosexual rights. I believe (broadly) liberty is the ability to do anything you want as long it does not effect the liberty of another, so therefore identical to hetrosexual rights.

Abortion: When a foetus can be described as alive (Mrs Nerg, for those who did British Junior Education) no. Before, yes.

Taxes: Possibly a negative income tax, or some other redistribution system.

Military: Similar to the Japanese SDF. There people like the OP, remember.

Unions: Given full bargaining rights, but must ensure internal democratic practices to be legally recognised.

Marijuana: Legal in enough for personal use (and a mate) and/or a Dutch 'coffeeshop' setting.

Religious displays: As long as your clothed and not sacrificing anyone, it's okay. Obviously some restraint might be needed, like in Northern Ireland, but that should be more common sense than government action.

Religion in politics: None. None. None.

UN: Remove vetoes, more permanent members to the Council. Make general assembly a little more proportional to population.

Government type: Secular. Government would be effectively comprised of coalitions. Elections to the legislature would be based on a survey of publicly held beliefs rather than on party tickets. President would be independently elected and mostly a figurehead. The judiciary will be self-appointed.

Homosexual rights: Totally equal. Government has to recognise the individuals right to consensually marry as they see fit, including gay marriage and polygamy.

Abortion: Whenever the mother wishes

Taxes: Redistributive. Government and business are inextricably linked, each being able to borrow resources from the other, as if they were limbs of the same organism.

Military: Privatised. Dedicated to cutting-edge technology.

Unions: In charge of much of the day-to-day running of the nation's workplaces. Banned from striking against outsourcing.

Marijuana: A graded system of fines. If someone is selling up to £50, if caught, they must pay a fine of 5% of their proovable profit. If over £5,000, the fine is 100% of the accumulated profit. This is in order to discourage big business from dominating the market, while leaving the independent market over, as marijuana-dealership is ideal in teaching entrepeneurism to disenfranchised kids.

Religious displays: Legal.

Religion in politics: Legal, but discouraged.

UN: Support with generous troop donations to peacekeeping operations.

Government style: Social democracy

Taxes: As high as necessary.

Military: Small, defense only, but would keep largely neutral/friendly towards other nations.

judicial/penal system: No death penalty, more towards rehabilitation than pure punishment.

Drugs: Marijuana legal, under the same rules as alcohol and cigarettes.

Weaponry: Non-hunter civilians are not allowed to own weapons.

Education: Compulsory, free, public for all.

Religion: Whatever floats your boat, but no religious schools, or religious expressions combined with state jobs.

Marriage: Only civil unions are recognized by the state.

Unions: Yes.

Business: Subject to regulation in wages, waste etc. State monopolys will exist (drugs/medicine & gambling)

Healthcare: Public and largely free.

UN: Member.

Foreign policy: Large amounts of foreign aid to third world countries and countries devestated by natural disasters etc.

Oh, btw, if you want more informations about my "dream country" ;) http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Kilobugya

Government type: Secular republic (it would be a pure democracy, but I don't think that's truly feasible) - somewhere in between pure capitalist and socialist government. Politicians paid a wage that allows them to live comfortably, but not enough to get rich (most likely some percentage above the minimum wage).

Homosexual rights: Human rights. Homosexuals, bisexuals, transgendered persons, etc. would be treated exactly the same under the law as heterosexuals. This includes marriage rights, access to any government services, etc.

Abortion: First of all, comprehensive sex education would be compulsory in public and private schools. Parents choosing to homeschool would also have to demonstrate that they are providing such an education, or lose the right to homeschool. Easy access to birth control methods of all types would be provided. Abortions would be allowed in much the same circumstances as they are now. Elective up until about 12 weeks. Under the counsel of a doctor up until about 20. For medical necessity after that.

Taxes: As low as possible to run the government. The government, however, would have to run on a balanced budget. Debt would be an option only in emergencies, and would be covered in the next year's budget.

Military: Well funded, but less tied to industry than in the US.

Unions: Allowed and even encouraged in some industries, subject to arbitration if necessary.

Drugs: Legal, with possible restrictions. Drugs that tend to induce violence or dangerous acts allowed only under supervision of some sort. Drugs like marijuana legal just as alcohol and tobacco are.

Religious displays: Perfectly ok, as long as they break no laws (and laws cannot be made specifically to block religion) and are privately funded.

Religion in politics: No religion should be legislated. The personal religions of politicians should be largely irrelevant.

UN: Fully in or fully out. None of this, "Everyone else has to abide by it but we don't" BS.

Healthcare: Basic healthcare subsidised for those citizens who need it. Elective healthcare up to the individual to pay for.

Education: Free up until secondary school and compulsory until finished or legally an adult. Money available for qualified students wishing to go to higher education.

Guns: Handguns, rifles, shotguns available to citizens who take certified gun safety courses.

my nation would do for the people what they can not do for themselves, basically we do roads, public health, defense, and criminal courts........ that's about it.

Otherwise we don't care, just you know don't kill eachother, or we will see you in court.

;)

I didn't do the rest of "the list" because we don't care.

questions are welcomed.

Government type: Democractic, marginally left-leaning

Homosexual rights: Full rights, marriage, adoption etc...

Abortion: No

Taxes: Probably slightly more than current. Heres why. Would abolish state handouts, instead training to give new skills so can get jobs, if not possible to get jobs, must work for minimum wage as government-employed labour force to carry out valuable long-term projects. I guess that will cost more than welfare, so taxes up.

Military: Enough to act as a deterrent to other nations attacking, only used offensively in extreme circumstances

Unions: In current form, banned. Replaced by a body for each industry in which workers and higher up business folk are represented in equal number. An independent chairman would have the casting vote if not a clear majority in favour of a certain way of settling a dispute

Drugs: State regulated (damn strictly) selling of currently illegal drugs at minimum profitable price to reduce problem of addicts turning to crime to fund their habit. Illegal trade to be punished with eye-watering jail terms

Religious displays: Hey, whatever

Religion in politics: How about no?

UN: Support reform to make more genuinely democratic and better equipped to act in crises

Healthcare: Lifesaving or birth defect-correcting treatment free to all, cosmetic surgery not

Guns: Allowed to use to protect home in event of burglary. Carrying on the street to be dealt with very harshly

Education: Free for all, abolition of fee-paying institutions

Foreign Policy: Grievances persued via the UN

Law/Punishments etc: Offenders to fill their time within prisons doing work that will generate money to compensate those they offended against. Government takes a small cut of the money to finance the scheme

Government type: Socialist Libertarian

Homosexual rights: None of the gov't business.

Abortion: None of the gov't business.

Taxes: Relatively low.

Military: Small and strong.

Unions: None of the gov't business.

Marijuana: None of the gov't business.

Religious displays: As long as no unwilling person gets sacrified, none of the gov't business.

Religion in politics: What!?

UN: Necessary evil.

This may seem overly redundant, because that's why we're all here: we made our own nations.

But, it's difficult to see how your nation would handle certain issues, because not all the issues come up. So, I thought it might be a good to give some of the most controversial issues (and some not so controversial) and to say what our nation's stances on them would be.

The examples in the categories are my answers. :)

Government type: Christian republican theocracy (not the Republican Party)

Homosexual rights: No marriage, no civil unions

Abortion: Only if the fertilized egg has implanted in the fallopian tube, and the doctors had better be trying to save that baby!

Taxes: low, low, low

Military: Sadly, we need one, and it needs to be strong

Unions: Ban 'em!

Marijuana: If legal, it would be only for medical purposes (doctor's prescription)

Religious displays: As long as your clothed and not sacrificing anyone, it's okay

Religion in politics: All national officials must be elders, ministers, or something similar in a Christian church

UN: actively work against

That's all I've thought of so far. Feel free to make suggestions and I'll add them.
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