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Is It Time For Jews To Leave Europe?

RockTheCasbah
07-09-2006, 03:14
Warning: This may cause the politically correct to shit their pants.

If I were a Jew living in Western Europe or Scandanavia today, with the possible exceptions of Switzerland, Denmark, Germany(!) and the Netherlands, I would seriously think about relocating to Israel, Australia, New Zealand, Canada or America.

It's that bad, and the danger signals are that clear.

I dislike having to write this, because it means conceding the racist notion that Jews somehow should be proscribed from living in certain places merely because of their ancestry, but I'm primarily interested in saving lives here. And with the possible exceptions of the countries I mentioned above, none of the countries of Western Europe and Scandinavia are likely to do much to protect the Jewish populations of their countries from what I'm pretty sure is just over the horizon.

They will be too busy dealing with internal unrest and what may even amount to a virtual civil war in some places. And it isn't all that far off.

Sixty years after the Holocaust, with living survivors still among us, we are looking at the end of most Jewish life in much of Western Europe.

Anti-semitism and virulent Jew hatred, often camoflauged as `anti-Zionism' has become so common in countries like Britain, Spain, Norway, Sweden and France that it hardly even merits a mention anymore. Tolerance for hate speech in mosques and open Islamic expressions of Jew hatred are a given. Attacks on Jews and desecration of Jewish religious sites is endemic, and usually whitewashed as ordinary street crime or mere vandalism in spite of the fact that the perpetrators are almost always Muslims targeting Jews - in fact, the EU's official report on anti-Semitism in Europe issued 2 years ago was whitewashed and `rewritten' in exactly that way. Leftist governments in countries like Spain and Italy and Sweden openly symphathize with Hezbollah and Hamas, and indeed the EU does not even consider Hezbollah, a group sponsored by Iran and with the murder of every Jew in Israel on its agenda to be worthy of condemnation or proscription in any way.

The EU funded Arafat's War against the Jews for years and continues to fund Palestian terrorism against the Jews today. And much of the press in Western Europe and Scandanavia is so vociferously `anti-Zionist', particularly in Britain, that it has made Jew hating more fashionable and mainstream than at anytime since the 1930's.

At the bottom of this equation, of course, is Europe's ascendent Muslim population, who are responsible for most of the blatant attacks on Jews and Jewish institutions. They are the new `swing votes' for many of Europe's politicians.

The European Left, anxious to appease them and to appear politically correct have mostly had few problems in toeing the jihadist line when it comes to Jews and Israel. This attitude, they think, will buy them peace from Islamic terrorism. After all, won't the Muslims think along the lines of `the enemy of my enemy is my friend' and start behaving less violently in general if they're provided with some ready-made, easily dispensed with victims?

Of course, the attitude that jihad would stop with Israel and the Jews is a fallacy, but many Europeans simply haven't realized that yet, particularly in the political, journalistic and academic elites.

There's a tangible benefit for many EU politicians in colluding with this trend..the increased Islamic vote for whoever denounces Israel and the Jews the most and ululates the most about `profiling' and `Islamophobia'.

In Britain, for instance, ex-Foreign Secretary Jack Straw was known for his pro forma denunciations of Israel. What wasn't as well known outside of Britain was his dependence on Muslims votes in his Blackburn constituencey to return to office.

Britian's Labour Prime Minister Tony Blair made it official policy to increase Muslim immigration to Britain throughout his term, with the the idea that the new immigrants would become Labour voters. During the last election, Britain's Labour Party actually made Tory Leader Michael Howard's Jewish ancestry a covert issue in the last election, with posters aimed specifically at Muslim voters.

It worked rather well...and these messages are not lost either on Muslims or on European politicians.

Aside from all that, Jew hating disguised as `anti-Zionism' serves another cathartic purpose for non-Muslim Europeans as well.

Europe's dirty little secret is that many of the nations in Europe, including Britain, were directly complicit in the death toll of the Holocaust or profitted by it. If they weren't turning over Jews to the Nazis directly, they were turning their backs on them and pretending nothing was happening, denying them refuge or reaping a profit dealing with the Nazis. And with the exception of nations like Denmark who have a well deserved, sterling reputation for doing its best to protect its Jews from the Holocaust, only Germany, oddly enough, has attempted to deal with that guilt head on by acknowledging it.

Having been down that road before, the Germans mostly understand the logical end to it.

For much of the rest, recreating Israel as the new Nazis of our modern age is a handy way of assuaging that guilt, of showing that the way much of Europe behaved during the Holocaust wasn't all that bad...I mean, look at what those vicious Israelis are doing in the `holocaust' they're perpetrating against the Palestinians!

Unfortunately, this isn't the only part of the trap closing in on the Jews of Europe. Aside from the hatred by most of Europe's Muslims and Leftist elite, there is a third class that is rapidly growing in Western Europe and Scandinavia as the problems with Europe's Muslims continue to spiral outof control.

There is an increasing movement among working class and middle class Europeans that is reacting strongly to jihadist behavior among many Muslims in Europe. There are whole sections of cities like Paris, Brussells and Malmo that are where non-Muslims are actually in physical danger, and where even the police rarely go unless they are in heavily armed bands. As crime, violence and terrorism increases against non-Muslim Europeans and the Leftist political elite remains out of touch, the frustrations in this group are boiling over and taking the form of nativist, right wing movements like Britain's National Party, which has seen its membership grow by leaps and bounds since the 7/7 bombings, the MoToons demonstrations and the apparent support voiced for sharia and jihad by many of Britain's supposedly ` assimilated' Muslims.

In the last French election, Jean-Marie Le Pen's National Front party got a whopping 20% of the vote, while Muslims in France constitute at least another 20% of the electorate . And that was before Le jihad Francais last fall. Depending on how things go, Le Pen and the National Front may even do better this year. Add to that the leftist `anti-Zionist' vote and you can see why the Jews in France are quickly running out of friends, and are emigrating to places like Israel in record numbers. As things heat up, this pattern will be repeated elsewhere.

Some of these parties are less anti-Semitic and nativist than others, but by and large such groups have, at best, little use for Jews, especially if those Jews are perceived as left wing or `politically correct' and allied with the elites. And as these movements increase in influence, the Jews in certain European countries will face yet another group that resents them hanging around.

By nature, I'm an optimist, but I'm also not stupid and the signs are quite plain to me as to what is coming. What's more, I can't escape the conclusion that a great many Europeans will end up being just fine with this version of the Final Solution..no death camps to try to stay downwind of this time, no `ingathering' or messy arrests to ignore...just a line of people requesting visas because they are unable to stay and live in peace anymore.

Europe has traded 6 million Jews for 20 million Muslims and now appears to be poised to make some real progress towards finishing the exchange. They may yet live to regret it.

If I were a Jew living in Scandanavia or most of Western Europe, I'd be packing.
Soheran
07-09-2006, 03:17
Yeah, I can see Le Pen's National Front and the French Muslim community allying together. Just waiting to happen.
RockTheCasbah
07-09-2006, 03:20
Yeah, I can see Le Pen's National Front and the French Muslim community allying together. Just waiting to happen.

They aren't allying, they're against each other, but neither group is a big fan of the Jews. The Jews are caught in the middle.
Free shepmagans
07-09-2006, 03:21
I'm not that well informed on European politics, but this seems somewhat iffy. Then again it would be the perfect set up for the anti-christ to come to power. Scary stuff.
Laerod
07-09-2006, 03:25
I have the sneaking suspicion you didn't write this on your own...
Kreitzmoorland
07-09-2006, 03:31
I don't know enough to comment in detail but here's what I do know:

Thousands of young french jews have arrived in the last couple years, and are continuing to arrive in Israel. I harldly talked to one young person from france on the exchange I was in that didn't intend to move to Israel within a couple years (pending studies, and so forth). Granted, this is anecdotal, and the group I was aquinted with were self-selected. However, when asked why, they all said some variant of "It is hard to be a Jew in France right now - you can't tell people you're Jewish, you can't wear a magen David on the street without being scared". You will not find such a large proportion of young educated Jews from Canada or the U.S. willing to pick up and move in hordes because they think life in Israel is better.
Pyotr
07-09-2006, 03:38
Funny, I've asked the exact same question about muslims....if you had asked me "what religion will most likely be the victim of genocide in the near future?" i would have said islam....
RetroLuddite Saboteurs
07-09-2006, 03:38
i have a strange position on the jews in european civilization, its sort of the opposite of the classic antisemite stance. i believe that the jews are the catalyst of western civilization. it is their cosmopolitan and internationalist prospective that allows european nations and institutions to expand beyond the limitations of the patriotic nationalism and parochialism that europeans are prone to sinking into. it is their role as the semi outside that allows our society to look beyond itself. i think it would be a great loss to our civilization if the jews people were to become just another land bound nationality, though it is possible that the rest of society has become internationalized enough it could survive a jewish entrenchment within the isreali state, i'm not sure i would like to take that risk. at least the united states is in no danger of lossing it jewish population... probably one of the reasons for its rise to superpower status after WW2.
United Chicken Kleptos
07-09-2006, 03:50
We should send the Jews into space. (http://jewsnspace.ytmnd.com/)
Andaluciae
07-09-2006, 03:59
Nie wieder.
LoisMadDogLane
07-09-2006, 04:20
Why not remove everyone from Israel and relocate them OUT. Isn't that what the whole mess is about in the first place? The Muslim assumption that Israel wants to reclaim the land they are on? Increase their population and size and take away their holy cities? If Israel as a governing body ceases to exist and the land is back under Muslim control and acknowledged by the world as belonging to them why would Muslims pursue them else where?
Why not let them make their own New Israel nation in Europe or Asia?
Anglachel and Anguirel
07-09-2006, 04:25
If Jews start emigrating en masse, then the few who are left will be such a small minority that they will be even more vicitmized. Basically, running away solves nothing.
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 04:33
We should send the Jews into space. (http://jewsnspace.ytmnd.com/)

Mel Brooks did it better.
New Stalinberg
07-09-2006, 04:39
I have the sneaking suspicion you didn't write this on your own...

I was thinking the same thing.

Is this thread for real or are my eyes deceivng me?
Eon8
07-09-2006, 04:42
This would be good copypasta.
Neo Undelia
07-09-2006, 04:43
You fail at plagiarism.
Laerod
07-09-2006, 04:48
You fail at plagiarism.That's ironic, because if I remember correctly, he just had a ban for something similar.
Pyotr
07-09-2006, 04:52
That's ironic, because if I remember correctly, he just had a ban for something similar.

should this be reported to the mods? we can't prove he plagiarised(sp?)
the OP....
New Stalinberg
07-09-2006, 04:54
should this be reported to the mods? we can't prove he plagiarised(sp?)
the OP....

What is OP?
Eon8
07-09-2006, 04:56
Omg Jews Did Wtc
Dobbsworld
07-09-2006, 04:57
It's not nearly as real as the OP would like us to think it is.
Pyotr
07-09-2006, 04:58
What is OP?

original post or original poster, whichever fits the context, in this case its the former.
Laerod
07-09-2006, 05:00
should this be reported to the mods? we can't prove he plagiarised(sp?)
the OP....No, we can't. He hasn't responded though and the writing seems more like an article than the works of this 17 year old. And he has a slight history of pasting something without a link.

That's why I think he plagiarized. Lot's of circumstantial evidence but no proof.
New Stalinberg
07-09-2006, 05:03
Do you really want to report him for this? That's seems a bit harsh.
Laerod
07-09-2006, 05:08
Do you really want to report him for this? That's seems a bit harsh.It's copy/paste spam, if not trolling, and he has a history. But no, we'd need proof that this definitely isn't his own words, and I'm not going to spend the night looking for it.

G'night all.
United Chicken Kleptos
07-09-2006, 05:09
Mel Brooks did it better.

I know. I was trying to find an image of it from History of the World Part 1, but I couldn't. :(
The Scandinvans
07-09-2006, 05:11
I'm not that well informed on European politics, but this seems somewhat iffy. Then again it would be the perfect set up for the anti-christ to come to power. Scary stuff.Yes, yes, my time is at last coming!!?!?! (Crazy Evil Laugh)
Boonytopia
07-09-2006, 05:12
No point moving to Australia, we have a large muslim population & we hate jews too. :rolleyes:

Space is definitely the best option.

Edit: Sarcasm, in case it wasn't clear.
Neo Undelia
07-09-2006, 05:12
That's ironic, because if I remember correctly, he just had a ban for something similar.

Nor really ironic. Just stupid.
Pyotr
07-09-2006, 05:14
No point moving to Australia, we have a large muslim population & we hate jews too. :rolleyes:

Space is definitely the best option.

Edit: Sarcasm, in case it wasn't clear.

or we could just make a man-made island for the jews, the UAE did it in Dubai. think about it, a massive star of david in the middle of the mediteranean, get creative.
Desperate Measures
07-09-2006, 05:15
Didn't somebody say that to the Neocons, it's always 1939?
Ravea
07-09-2006, 05:26
or we could just make a man-made island for the jews, the UAE did it in Dubai. think about it, a massive star of david in the middle of the mediteranean, get creative.

I say put all the Jews in a giant Menorah robot and call it "MechaMenorah."

Then we could have it fight Godzilla and Mothra for contol of Tokyo.
Neu Leonstein
07-09-2006, 10:50
I think the OP was plagiarised, and I don't think there is much basis to it either. What was that about that kidnapping and murder of a Jew in France a few months ago? How many hundreds of thousands came out to protest against antisemitism, although the motive was money and not race or religion?

But if you do get off on conspiracy theories:
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,434508,00.html
The German Jewish Council has played an important role in German civil society since its foundation in 1950. In an interview, new Council President Charlotte Knobloch, who took office in June, warns against growing resentments against Jews and appeasement of Iran.
The thing people really have to be careful of is that Jews as a people and Israel as a country have to be kept seperately in people's heads. That's not always a given.
Carisbrooke
07-09-2006, 11:01
Dr Jonathan Sacks, Chief Rabbi of the United Hebrew Congregations of the Commonwealth, recently said that Britain was the most tolerant country in the world.
Bratwurstburg
07-09-2006, 11:09
The thing people really have to be careful of is that Jews as a people and Israel as a country have to be kept seperately in people's heads. That's not always a given.
Tell that to the various israeli politicians and jewish intellectuals and officials all around the world who try to paint critics of the israeli goverment's politics as antisemites.
Neu Leonstein
07-09-2006, 11:17
Tell that to the various israeli politicians and jewish intellectuals and officials all around the world who try to paint critics of the israeli goverment's politics as antisemites.
True. They're not helping their case.

I'd just hate for the Jews in Germany to have to feel uncomfortable about their religion. Before the Nazis, Jews formed a huge part of German public life, and I always hope that can happen again.

Where in Hamburg are you at, by the way?
Meath Street
07-09-2006, 11:26
They aren't allying, they're against each other, but neither group is a big fan of the Jews. The Jews are caught in the middle.
Your article is mostly untrue, especially about the EU funding terrorism, and tolerance for Islamic hate.

Europeans don't hate Jews and don't blame them for Israel's actions.
Bratwurstburg
07-09-2006, 11:28
Before the Nazis, Jews formed a huge part of German public life, and I always hope that can happen again.

Why not? As far as I know, there are aproximately 100-200.000 jews living in Germany today. That's more than one would presume.
Although I think that most of them are Russlanddeutsche, who have little interest in their jewish roots.

Where in Hamburg are you at, by the way?
I'm living in Fuhlsbüttel currently, but I'm going to move to Berlin in a couple of weeks.

You have relatives in Hamburg?^^
Neu Leonstein
07-09-2006, 11:35
I'm living in Fuhlsbüttel currently, but I'm going to move to Berlin in a couple of weeks.
Pfft. Of all places. :p

You have relatives in Hamburg?^^
Yeah, grandparents, aunts, uncles, the lot, most in Jenfeld, a few in Farmsen. I used to live first in Marienthal and then Barsbüttel (although...oh, the pain, that's not officially part of the city :eek:) until 2001, when we moved here.
Demented Hamsters
07-09-2006, 12:30
I have the sneaking suspicion you didn't write this on your own...
What gave it away:
Too many big words, or
not enough incomprehensible grammar errors?
New Burmesia
07-09-2006, 12:37
So, let me get this straight. Because I'm a European I'm automatically an anti-Semetic communist Muslim capable of genocide at any moment.

Crap like that is what makes NSG worth it. Classic.
Nodinia
07-09-2006, 12:50
should this be reported to the mods? we can't prove he plagiarised(sp?)
the OP....

I do believe that yes, we fucking well can. Behold....
http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2006/09/it-is-time-for-jews-to-think-about.html
New Burmesia
07-09-2006, 12:52
I do believe that yes, we fucking well can. Behold....
http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2006/09/it-is-time-for-jews-to-think-about.html

http://mishilo.image.pbase.com/u13/cmnoa/upload/42525711.pwned.jpg
Yootopia
07-09-2006, 12:53
So, let me get this straight. Because I'm a European I'm automatically an anti-Semetic communist Muslim capable of genocide at any moment.

Crap like that is what makes NSG worth it. Classic.
And immediatly, as well as being a crazy commie, a member of the Leftist Elite (which could never exist...).

This stuff is gold.
Demented Hamsters
07-09-2006, 12:53
Anyone else find the irony in that we now have a group of people who, previously, would have been indifferent at best to the persecution and intolerance of Jews.
Their reaction to hearing of any incident would have probably been along the lines of "how terrible, but meh..." or indeed some snide, smirking, unfunny-to-anyone-but-them, comment about how "The jews must have done something to piss Hitler off".


Fastforward a few years to post-9/11 and the constant stream of muslim-bashing by Fox and the Bush admin and we now have them throwing their hands in the air, donning their hairshirts, gnashing their teeth and growling at all and sundry, "That something MUST be done to stop this hatred against our jewish brethern".
Anyone who disagrees is obvious an anti-Semetic themselves.

That "something" is left unsaid at the moment, but it's pretty damn obvious what they are suggesting: Using the one thing, the only thing, they can understand: extreme force against all who oppose them.


On second thoughts, it isn't irony. It's hypocrisy.
Demented Hamsters
07-09-2006, 12:56
I do believe that yes, we fucking well can. Behold....
http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2006/09/it-is-time-for-jews-to-think-about.html
How unsurprising.
Also how (predictably) stupid of RocktheCasbah. All he had to do is print 1/2, provide a link and say at the bottom he agrees with it and ask us our thoughts.

What a dumbass.

(both RocktheCasbah and the actual author of this tripe)
Neu Leonstein
07-09-2006, 13:26
This blog makes me angry. I added a comment to the entry in question.
Cullons
07-09-2006, 13:48
So if your anti-israel your anti-jew.

Should'nt that be
If your anti-israel your anti jew/druze/christian/muslim
?

Not all israelies are muslims you know...
Cullons
07-09-2006, 13:49
This blog makes me angry. I added a comment to the entry in question.

was tempted to aswell but i don't think i could have been as polite or eloquent as what you wrote
Laerod
07-09-2006, 13:54
Pfft. Of all places. :p Hey...:mad: (:p)

What gave it away:
Too many big words, or
not enough incomprehensible grammar errors?A combination of the many factors. ;)
Keruvalia
07-09-2006, 14:01
Warning: This may cause the politically correct to shit their pants.

*checks pants* Nope! Sorry ... you aren't creative enough to be shocking or controversial. I'm unimpressed.

If I were a Jew living in Scandanavia or most of Western Europe, I'd be packing.

Coward.
Laerod
07-09-2006, 14:04
Coward.Well, the original author of that is probably not a Jew living in either of those places.
Keruvalia
07-09-2006, 14:08
Well, the original author of that is probably not a Jew living in either of those places.

Probably not. It's been my experience that it's actually quite difficult to drive Jews out. Stubborn and strong people, we are.
Ice Hockey Players
07-09-2006, 14:13
If only the Jews in Israel weren't so ideologically tied to that stretch of land...it would be so simple just to give them Kansas. Seriously. As much money as the U.S. drops on Israel a year, bringing them over to Kansas would be no problem whatsoever. Plus, we can get rid of that fuckpickle Fred Phelps once and for all.

Not that it's a serious suggestion, since it would be too hard to pull off and the poor sons of bitches who don't leave are fucked, and then the Muslims get Jerusalem all to themselves, and then they can still pick on the Kurds...wait, we can just move the Kurds to Montana...then we can let the Middle East work itself out after we get rid of our dependence on oil.

So there you have it.

Step 1: Move the Jews to Kansas.

Step 2: Move the Kurds to Montana.

Step 3: Stop using foreign oil and start using...I don't know...nuclear power for now. Electric cars can be more powerful.

Step 4: Watch the Middle East figure out they have no one left to pick on. That is, after the U.S. moves out of the Middle East.

Step 5: Have a beer.
Keruvalia
07-09-2006, 14:15
As much money as the U.S. drops on Israel a year, bringing them over to Kansas would be no problem whatsoever.

Too much corn there. Way too much corn.

How about Illinois? Or Ohio?
Demented Hamsters
07-09-2006, 14:18
If only the Jews in Israel weren't so ideologically tied to that stretch of land...
That's what I can't understand about the Jews.
If you're going to claim a part of the World as the promised land and move them en masse, why choose a shit-hole like the ME?
I would have chosen somewhere like Tahiti or Fiji myself.
Ice Hockey Players
07-09-2006, 14:22
Too much corn there. Way too much corn.

How about Illinois? Or Ohio?

Corn's kosher, though, right? And frankly, if they want Ohio, they can have it; they can't do any worse with it than the idiots in charge here. The only good thing our governor ever did for ths state was wear a cowboy hat at the State Fair.
Keruvalia
07-09-2006, 14:26
Corn's kosher, though, right? And frankly, if they want Ohio, they can have it; they can't do any worse with it than the idiots in charge here. The only good thing our governor ever did for ths state was wear a cowboy hat at the State Fair.

Oh, sure, corn is kosher - even for Passover - but it's a lousy color scheme. Green and yellow? Blargh.

Well, hey, at least ya'll aren't stuck with Rick Perry.
Pyotr
07-09-2006, 14:29
Probably not. It's been my experience that it's actually quite difficult to drive Jews out. Stubborn and strong people, we are.

are you a muslim or a jew? both?
Keruvalia
07-09-2006, 14:33
are you a muslim or a jew? both?

I'm a Jew, by birth.
Ice Hockey Players
07-09-2006, 14:40
Oh, sure, corn is kosher - even for Passover - but it's a lousy color scheme. Green and yellow? Blargh.

Well, hey, at least ya'll aren't stuck with Rick Perry.

You can always export the corn to Montana, where the Kurds are, and import flour for...blast, what the devil do Jews eat on Passover...
Pyotr
07-09-2006, 14:41
You can always export the corn to Montana, where the Kurds are, and import flour for...blast, what the devil do Jews eat on Passover...

MATZAH!
Ice Hockey Players
07-09-2006, 14:43
MATZAH!

That's made of flour, right? They have wheat in Kansas, I'm sure. Too much of it, sometimes.
Keruvalia
07-09-2006, 14:44
You can always export the corn to Montana, where the Kurds are, and import flour for...blast, what the devil do Jews eat on Passover...

Potato flour, mostly. Can't use the grain stuff. Although, some hard-core Orthodox say corn is, technically, a grain as well as rice, so both are a no-no on Pesach.

We always had rice and corn during Pesach when I was growing up.

Different traditions. *shrug*

We'll keep the corn, just change the color.
Ice Hockey Players
07-09-2006, 14:48
They have white corn, right? Oh, and if you want Idaho instead, I'm sure something could be arranged...but I like my potatoes too, so send some my way.
Keruvalia
07-09-2006, 14:50
They have white corn, right? Oh, and if you want Idaho instead, I'm sure something could be arranged...but I like my potatoes too, so send some my way.

Ah ... but I'm Irish ... you'll have to fight me fer me taters. *shakes fist*
Ice Hockey Players
07-09-2006, 14:52
Ah ... but I'm Irish ... you'll have to fight me fer me taters. *shakes fist*

**tosses a Guinness off to the side**

**waits and taps my foot while you run after it**

**gives up and decides to come back after you're distracted**
Keruvalia
07-09-2006, 14:53
**tosses a Guinness off to the side**

**waits and taps my foot while you run after it**

**gives up and decides to come back after you're distracted**

doh!
Ultraextreme Sanity
07-09-2006, 15:02
Everyone should leave Europe and go to Iran and live .
Isiseye
07-09-2006, 15:10
Only if they want to leave Europe. I think its unrealistic to even think that they might relocate because of anti semitism , violence etc. If that were the case then no one would be living in the Middle East. Personally I think it would be more dangerous for people of the Jewish faith to move to Israel. Sure you mighn't get as much antisemitism but there would be an ever so slight increase in the whole violence and danger aspect.
Gravlen
07-09-2006, 18:45
I see the OP have never been to scandinavia.

Oh wait!

Cut'n'paste spam... Wonderful! :rolleyes:
Carops
07-09-2006, 19:21
I feel so sorry for the Jews here. In the city where I live, roughly 10% of the population of the city itself (not the metropolitan area) is Jewish. The Jewish influence here is pretty noticable, not just by the way people dress and the number of synagogues and so forth, but by the contributions of local Jews to society and the numbers of important Jewish intellectuals and committee leaders. However, last year a Jewish Cemetary was desecrated here last year and attacks on Jews have continued since. I hate to say it, but it is mostly the local Muslim population doing it, along with the fascists. It needs to stop now before we destroy something of great value to our culture and nation..

In short, I hate to see things the way they are...
Imperiux
07-09-2006, 19:22
Jews have all the reason to leave, but to do so would admit defeat.
New Burmesia
07-09-2006, 19:34
Jews have all the reason to leave, but to do so would admit defeat.

Why? Don't tell me you believe that bullshit, and saying that insults bullshit everywhere.
East Canuck
07-09-2006, 19:35
The author of the copy/pasted OP hasn't made his research before spewing that shit or else he'd know that Anti-semitism acts are rising in Canada and the US ever since the Irak war. So that leaves us out too, I'm afraid.
The Atlantian islands
07-09-2006, 19:55
I feel so sorry for the Jews here. In the city where I live, roughly 10% of the population of the city itself (not the metropolitan area) is Jewish. The Jewish influence here is pretty noticable, not just by the way people dress and the number of synagogues and so forth, but by the contributions of local Jews to society and the numbers of important Jewish intellectuals and committee leaders. However, last year a Jewish Cemetary was desecrated here last year and attacks on Jews have continued since. I hate to say it, but it is mostly the local Muslim population doing it, along with the fascists. It needs to stop now before we destroy something of great value to our culture and nation..

In short, I hate to see things the way they are...
Sometimes the truth may look bad...but in the end its always better to see it than be blissfully ignorant. Anyway, I agree with your post.
are you a muslim or a jew? both?

He WAS a Jew but then became a Muslim by conversion.
New Lofeta
07-09-2006, 20:00
He WAS a Jew but then became a Muslim by conversion.

Mazel tov!
Upper Botswavia
07-09-2006, 20:03
How unsurprising.
Also how (predictably) stupid of RocktheCasbah. All he had to do is print 1/2, provide a link and say at the bottom he agrees with it and ask us our thoughts.

What a dumbass.

(both RocktheCasbah and the actual author of this tripe)


Here is the comment I posted to the blog of the REAL op...


What a sad comment on you, and the world you think you live in.

Hey, yes... let's make it the VICTIMS' responsibility to run away, rather than deal with the actual problem (if there even is one, and your rhetoric is somewhat suspect).

No, the Jews should not be expected to move. Remember that the last time this was expected of them they were moved into ghettos and later concentration camps; how is encouraging them to 'go live somewhere else... anywhere but in MY backyard' any different than ghettos? What should be expected is that they, like everyone else, be treated better, and if, indeed, there ARE threats to their existance, that the governments involved do their jobs and protect the members of their societies.

The worst kind of racism is when it is disguised under the veil of "I only say this for their own good", here followed by "but they really should all go away".
East Canuck
07-09-2006, 20:03
He WAS a Jew but then became a Muslim by conversion.
He IS a jew (nationality) by his mother and is Irish by his father and HAS been a muslim (religion) but is not so sure anymore. Unless I'm mistaken, in which case he'll kindly tell us.
1038278
07-09-2006, 20:12
We don't want the jews in America either. They dominate the media, televisions, and just about every other big business in America. The jews are a race of usururs. They don't produce anything, they take what white men have produced and sell it and profit off of it! I think they should all go to their beloved Isreal!

ST.Henry
Upper Botswavia
07-09-2006, 20:19
We don't want the jews in America either. They dominate the media, televisions, and just about every other big business in America. The jews are a race of usururs. They don't produce anything, they take what white men have produced and sell it and profit off of it! I think they should all go to their beloved Isreal!

ST.Henry


Wow! Troll much?
PsychoticDan
07-09-2006, 20:23
We don't want the jews in America either. They dominate the media, televisions, and just about every other big business in America. The jews are a race of usururs. They don't produce anything, they take what white men have produced and sell it and profit off of it! I think they should all go to their beloved Isreal!

ST.Henry

If a path to the better there be, it begins with a full look at the worst. :)

-Thomas Hardy
HotRodia
07-09-2006, 20:43
Locked pending Moderator review. We have two complaints regarding this thread in Moderation at the moment.

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HotRodia
08-09-2006, 03:27
After reviewing the evidence collected in the thread in Moderation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498861), I've decided that 1038278 gets an Official Warning for trolling. While extreme viewpoints are allowed here, you need to take care when expressing them that you aren't violating the rules. If you aren't sure about what the rules are, please read the One-Stop Rules Shop in the Moderation forum.

Given RockTheCasbah's past history, I'm giving him the next five days to take a break from the forum. I would advise RTC to link to his sources and provide real commentary on them in the future. Please remember that using another nation to post even when you've been banned will earn you a harsher punishment.

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